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UFO's and Aliens => UFO's and Aliens => Topic started by: astr0144 on March 22, 2015, 09:33:54 PM

Title: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 22, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
'Vladimir Putin is advised by ALIENS' Councillor blames space reptiles for Ukraine crisis

RUSSIA'S president Vladimir Putin is being advised over the Ukraine crisis by a group of ALIEN reptiles from outer space, claims a Labour politician.

(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Simon-Parkes-Vladimir-Putin-alien-Ukraine-559949.jpg)

Alien-obsessed Simon Parkes, a councillor in Whitby, North Yorkshire, blamed hostilities in troubled eastern Ukraine on a group of alien reptiles he calls the 'Nordics.'The 53-year-old, who claims to have been visited by extra-terrestrials ever since being inside his mother's womb, said the correspondence between Putin and the Nordics "is on par with America" during a Q&A session in Wallsend, North Tyneside.He said: " Putin had been part of a group advised by reptiles. Nordics made the counter offer to Putin."The technology the Nordics are giving to Putin is on par with America."
Speaking to an audience of around 30 listeners at The Vault, the father-of-three continued: "The Nordics have told Putin he no longer has to toe the American line, hence his resistance."

The councillor and driving instructor, who represents Stakesby on Whitby Town Council, also told the audience that his legal father is a reptile.

Previously, Councillor Parkes has claimed that he fathered an extra terrestrial lovechild called Zarka and says having sex with the alien has caused tension in his marriage with his wife.

Speaking on Channel 4 documentary Confessions Of An Alien Abductee in June 2013 he said his "real mother" is a 9ft green alien with eight, stick-like fingers who appeared to him in his cot when he was six-months-old.

(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/Simon-Parkes-Vladimir-Putin-aliens-257168.jpg)

Simon Parkes blames aliens for Ukraine crisis

Councillor Parkes bizarre comments come more than a week after the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany thrashed out a peace agreement in Belarus capital Minsk.The deal hopes to resurrect a stillborn ceasefire after the first Minsk agreement collapsed shortly after being signed five months ago.However, on Friday the Ukraine military claimed more than 20 Russian tanks, 10 missile systems and busses filled with fighters had crossed the border, and appeared to be heading in the direction of Novoazovsk, a rebel-held town in the south-east.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/559949/Vladimir-Putin-Simon-Parkes-alien-Ukraine-Russia-Labour-councillor
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 22, 2015, 10:00:02 PM
Between this and the Iranian 'snowden' 'nordic' 'leaks'...
I'm starting to think somebody really wants this propaganda disseminated.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 22, 2015, 10:44:52 PM
Quote from: Sinny on March 22, 2015, 10:00:02 PM
Between this and the Iranian 'snowden' 'nordic' 'leaks'...
I'm starting to think somebody really wants this propaganda disseminated.
What Snowden documents?  That would be news to me.  Sounds more like Sorcha Faal type nonsense.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 22, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Quote... and says having sex with the alien has caused tension in his marriage with his wife.

Ya think?

(http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-045.gif)

On the other flipper/tentacle/hand, what an interesting ménage à trois...
... from a filmmakers viewpoint, of course.    ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 23, 2015, 02:06:21 AM
Quote from: Pimander on March 22, 2015, 10:44:52 PM
What Snowden documents?  That would be news to me.  Sounds more like Sorcha Faal type nonsense.

Greetings:

Good call.

GOLD for that astute observation.

However, is there any truth (whatsoever infinitesimal) buried in this 'report'?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/preparing_for_aliens~0.jpg)

Snowden Documents Proving "US-Alien-Hitler" Link Stuns Russia (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1730.htm)

January 11, 2014
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing "incontrovertible proof" that an "alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda" is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945.

Edward Snowden is a computer specialist, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee, and former NSA/CSS contractor who disclosed these classified documents to several media outlets in late 2012 and was granted temporary asylum in Russia in 2013 after his designation by the Obama regime as the "most wanted man on earth (http://rt.com/news/snowden-most-wanted-asylum-request-876/)."


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This FSB report further states that Snowden, in December, 2012, contacted the highly respected American columnist, blogger, and author Glenn Greenwald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald) by an email headed with the subject line stating, "I and others have things you would be interested in.?.?.?." (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/snowden-and-greenwald-the-men-who-leaked-the-secrets-20131204)

In Snowden's own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there "were actually two governments in the US: the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark." (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/snowden-and-greenwald-the-men-who-leaked-the-secrets-20131204)


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As to who is running this "secret regime" Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer) who was given access to all of Snowden's documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, "accurate."

Even though Defense Minister Hellyer's exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden's documents remain classified, shortly after his "extensive electronic interview" by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today's program SophieCo  (http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/) this past fortnight [see video HERE  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK6I8DpR9EA) where he shockingly admitted that aliens have "been visiting our planet for thousands of years" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535698/Aliens-walk-theyre-refusing-share-technology-change-warring-polluting-ways-claims-former-Canadian-defense-minister.html) and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including "Tall Whites" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535698/Aliens-walk-theyre-refusing-share-technology-change-warring-polluting-ways-claims-former-Canadian-defense-minister.html) who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.


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Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden's documents "confirming" that the "Tall Whites" (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930's.

In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this "alien assistance," at the end of the 1930's, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines  (http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/25-05-2007/92157-nazi_germany-0/) at its dockyards and even put them into operation.

Snowden's documents further confirm, this report says, the "Tall Whites" (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100947/Eisenhower-secret-meetings-aliens-pentagon-consultant-claims.html) where the "secret regime" currently ruling over America was established.


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Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the "Tall White" agenda being implemented by the "secret regime" ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden's documents calls the "final phase" of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.

Unbeknownst to the FSB, this report confirms, are those still in the US government backing Snowden, but whose presence Russian intelligence experts note is "unmistakable" and shows a cataclysmic power struggle is currently underway against this "secret regime" now headed by Obama by "forces unknown."

Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this report concludes, is if those opposing the "Tall White" "secret regime" ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.

January 11, 2014 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index7381.htm) strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.  Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their 'agents' against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report
"Who Is Sorcha Faal?" (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index7381.htm)


Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 04:02:55 AM
There is certainly several interesting facts that you posted there Thor that relate to possibilities behind the ET agenda connections..

What would puzzle me though is if ETs /their aid in technology were involved in aiding Germany...

I think that I would have thought that they would have certainly won the War...

but Id also question why side with Germany...

If it was the Tall Whites, it may be due to the aryan white race.. but there were white Races elsewhere opposing Germany..

But if those facts are true about a rapid increase in Germany's Submarines, that is certainly thought provoking...

If they were also inventing Saucers..I wonder why they did not also create many more of them also..

or even Nukes...if the TWs had such knowledge to create such or similar superior weapons...

or later even prevented the USA from creating Nukes..if they possessed such power.

If they had wanted you would have even thought that they would have created such a take over alone if they had wanted to ...even with limited beings by themselves..

or did they have an agenda at the time to maybe oppose the USA and other western Countries..

Maybe they wanted a deal with certain leaders at the time and if they did not get what they wanted, maybe they decided to aid Germany...

I wonder....!
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 04:42:43 AM
Yes it is quite incredible to have a Councillor in the UK come out with saying such things and still remain in his position...

His story is really quite severely hard to believe...

but who knows !  :D

All I say is that if there is any ETs here what so ever, that why not believe him...anymore than any other story out there..

He claims his parents worked for one of the UK intellegence services. M16 or MI5 if I recall.

Ive met  and spoke with him or been in his presence at about 3 UK events in the last 3 yrs..

He does seem a very intelligent person..was my impression...


The question for some will be is he a UK plant to create what seems like a ET presence with some agenda for the IQ services or some Global agenda...
Being from a Mi6 connected background..its a possibility..

Im hoping to look into another very interesting story related to a huge agenda claimed to have been going on both in the USA and UK...that is like a real "X" Files major agenda...that may explain a lot more how it all pieces together...

but is extremely hard to believe..and very very disturbing.. :o


but would make another classic X Files Movie even if made up..I still find it fascinating how such a theory or  story would have been created..
and how it connects to so many things that we have
come across..

Hope to post more when I get further info..


Quote from: thorfourwinds on March 22, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Ya think?

(http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-045.gif)

On the other flipper/tentacle/hand, what an interesting ménage à trois...
... from a filmmakers viewpoint, of course.    ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: Pimander on March 22, 2015, 10:44:52 PM
What Snowden documents?  That would be news to me.  Sounds more like Sorcha Faal type nonsense.

That was my point...
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 08:42:36 AM
Astro, it's my opinion that you are wasting your brain on entertaining these sorts of stories...

Alien Nordics do not exist outside the realms of the fascists imagination.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
Oh well Sin,

Maybe no one should post any ET posts then maybe ! if we all take your view point...

What is the point on this ET thread...

To post material on ET and UFO topics the way I see it...

So other members should not post as some members disagree  they may exist..

Until either side can 100% prove one way or the other I would hope members could continue to post on the related topics.

Quote from: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 08:42:36 AM
Astro, it's my opinion that you are wasting your brain on entertaining these sorts of stories...

Alien Nordics do not exist outside the realms of the fascists imagination.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 02:41:52 PM
Oh well Sin,

Maybe no one should post any ET posts then maybe ! if we all take your view point...

What is the point on this ET thread...

To post material on ET and UFO topics the way I see it...

So other members should not post as some members disagree  they may exist..

Until either side can 100% prove one way or the other I would hope members could continue to post on the related topics.

I wasn't telling you not to post Astro, I was providing my opinion, which just so happens to be agreed upon by Pimander......

errrr goooo Sorcha.... Faaaallll ... Type... rubbish....

Although I don't know why I bother.. Everybody is on their period apparently.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 23, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Although I don't know why I bother.. Everybody is on their period apparently.
I knew there was something the matter with the bleedin' nutters on here.  :o

I meant the whole thing is made up.  The Snowden about tall whites documents don't exist.  The whole thing appears to be based on what certain people have said.  I think Hellyer has been used in a little game. :)

If any documents exist they are probably reports about the original Tall Whites story.  The RT propaganda is hilarious!
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Pimander on March 23, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
I knew there was something the matter with the bleedin' nutters on here.  :o



Pun intended?  :D
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 23, 2015, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on March 22, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Ya think?

(http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-045.gif)

On the other flipper/tentacle/hand, what an interesting ménage à trois...
... from a filmmakers viewpoint, of course.    ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

LOL Best excuse he could come up with staggering into the house at 4 in the morning.  ;D
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 24, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
I reckon the Russians are having a joke at the US habit of blaming aliens...  ::)
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 24, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Some may say we all have to be so to discuss such topics. or that there may be many of us on here  :)
if you are referring direct to the post that I made.

Rather a invalid comment on a UFO/ ET thread I would think..Reminds me of some of the Trolling on ATS.

You still cannot offer any evidence one way or the other or have not done so far IMO...

Just suggesting made up stories or Mind Control may be truth, but not proof...

You have made some of your own thoughts known about certain things that you believe, but I do not need you or would prefer you not to make the same comments on each post that I or others may make if they post UFO or ET related topics in the UFO Thread..

Some are non believers , some are believers, other still researching to look into the various material that is posted or that they find.

My thoughts would be IF there were ANY type of Intelligent  species of E.T other than the likes of minor organisms ..then maybe such things could be possible..But it does not mean that I believe everything...I just post related material...

Please allow those with such beliefs to post freely with such demeaning  comments.. ::)

"Z" made a recent Post about Such things when we had other similar issues if I recall..

Unless of course the majority on here do not believe in ETs, then maybe I am missing the message  ??? :-\  It maybe that the much longer term members have now come to your conclusion..I am still not really sure...maybe judging by some of the responses...that may be so..


But Some of us may be well severely Mad..or just not yet reached such a conclusion or may not think its really possible to reach such a conclusion..

The deceivers who may work at producing such material as what Snowden claims may work it in other ways that we do not realize.. 

Or if I understand Matrix correctly and he is right,
None of us maybe as we think we are, including ETs if they appear to exist and we all may just be avatar Holographic projections.. That may make it hard to really understand anything..

So I am still very unclear in somethings that I may believe or not at the moment and can be subject to change..

QuoteI knew there was something the matter with the bleedin' nutters on here.  :o
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 24, 2015, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on March 24, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Rather a invalid comment on a UFO/ ET thread I would think..Reminds me of some of the Trolling on ATS.

You still cannot offer any evidence one way or the other or have not done so far IMO...
Neither can you in my opinion.  Apart from reporting what people have said, what evidence is provided anywhere here?

My evidence that this is BS is that the alleged Snowden documents simply do not exist.  That is real evidence.

It is not trolling at all Astro so chill out.

Follow up on the leads in the opening post and you'll find nothing but hearsay.  Absolutely nothing.


I am not criticising you for posting reports like the one in the opening post by the way.  But having the opposite opinion to you and sticking to guns is not trolling!

Remember, adults can disagree without falling out.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: astr0144 on March 24, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
Its not weather your or my opinions differ..or if any of the Snowden like stuff exists or not..

Is was the comment that you made that I did not think was appropriate for this forum..Knowing already one has differing opinions..

ATS maybe.

All I am suggesting is I don't thing such words are very nice if one has to think those are the sort of comments one may make if a member makes a similar related post you may make similar comments on ...

I am not really deeply offended..
So I hope peace can prevail..

and I accept your views...

I do not know if some of the comments made in other posts were true or not..but even if the post was BS...some later possibly interesting facts may have been said....

Then next thing I Know, I see your comment..which I did not think was appropriate..

I would have thought that there were many other things at least just as BS potential wrote on PRC but I have not seen or noticed so far such similar comments t o other members who may have posted them.


QuoteMy evidence that this is BS is that the alleged Snowden documents simply do not exist.  That is real evidence.

It is not trolling at all Astro so chill out.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 24, 2015, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on March 24, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
I do not know if some of the comments made in other posts were true or not..but even if the post was BS...some later possibly interesting facts may have been said....

Then next thing I Know, I see your comment..which I did not think was appropriate..
If you are referring to the "bleedin' nutters" comment then it was a joke you may or may not have understood.  Feel free to be offended by it but that is the great thing about freedom of expression.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on March 23, 2015, 02:06:21 AM
However, is there any truth (whatsoever infinitesimal) buried in this 'report'?
January 11, 2014
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

LOL Seriously Sorcha Faal?  LOL I must be back at ATS :P

Sorcha Faal is neither a she nor Sorcha


Sorcha Faal... Internet Hoax Queen Courtesy of David Booth...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread304918/pg1
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:49:30 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on March 23, 2015, 04:02:55 AM
There is certainly several interesting facts that you posted there Thor that relate to possibilities behind the ET agenda connections.

Well it was written by Sorcha Faal so... :P

QuoteWhat would puzzle me though is if ETs /their aid in technology were involved in aiding Germany...
I think that I would have thought that they would have certainly won the War...
but Id also question why side with Germany...

There are supposedly 56-7 ET races visiting Earth.  The supposed contact with Aliens by Germans was a CHANNELLING contact. The info was passed via a medium so no actual Aliens landed to help Germany  A lot of the NAZI UFO stuff was 'embellished' over the years

QuoteIf it was the Tall Whites, it may be due to the aryan white race.. but there were white Races elsewhere opposing Germany..

The Tall Whites are not Aryan.  Aryan 'whites' are more pink really  (like us :P)

QuoteBut if those facts are true about a rapid increase in Germany's Submarines, that is certainly thought provoking...

Channeled information, whether from an Alien race or simply the Akashic Record can be useful or deceptive. I suppose it depends on WHO is receiving it.  For prime example take the liquid fuel rocket.

Three scientists INDEPENDENTLY came up with the EXACT same rocket  Herman Oberth (Germany who taught von Braun)  Robert Goddard (USA) and Tsiolkovsky (Russian)  Oddly enough the Russian got it first but since communication in those days was not like today, he didn't get credit for that until much later

So the question...  WHERE did this sudden flash of insight come from?  Those three countries are today the three main space faring Nations (NASA,ESA, RosCosmos)  All based on this ONE invention

QuoteIf they were also inventing Saucers..I wonder why they did not also create many more of them also..

Simple... MONEY and resources  Germany is a small nation and they were spread thin on many fronts of both research and combat

Quoteor even Nukes...if the TWs had such knowledge to create such or similar superior weapons...

Well the TW's live on Area 51 lands today :P But Germany was very close to creating the Abomb Even had a long ranch rocket ready to launch it to USA  (See Operation Crossbow)

Quoteor later even prevented the USA from creating Nukes..if they possessed such power.

Well I guess they either couldn't do that via channeling or they really are not all powerful :P People always assume that ET HAS to be way in advance of us. WHY?  Tesla had a saucer design in the 1800's  We chose WAR over Space Exploration.  If ET simply went the other direction they could be here not  at all advance from us

Besides in the 50's the Venusian Visitors did supposedly stop by and warn us to stop with the Nukes "or else"  1951 The Day the Earth Stood Still" ; Valient Thor, 1952 Washington Flap, Eisenhower meeeting with ET...

QuoteIf they had wanted you would have even thought that they would have created such a take over alone if they had wanted to ...even with limited beings by themselves..

IF  they had wanted to :P

Quoteor did they have an agenda at the time to maybe oppose the USA and other western Countries..

or... did they say "Fvck this place... these Monkeys are not worth the effort :P

Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 08:42:36 AM
Astro, it's my opinion that you are wasting your brain on entertaining these sorts of stories...


Well it is MY opinion that YOU are wasting your time trying to stop people from speculating about such things on a website that was created to speculate bout such things :P


QuoteAlien Nordics do not exist outside the realms of the fascists imagination.

And naturally you have proof of this statement with documentation to back up your statement and are about to share it with us?


Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: Sinny on March 23, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Although I don't know why I bother.. Everybody is on their period apparently.

This is a very good question :P

You are free to have an opinion...  you are free to express that opinion... you are free to create your own forum and website to express your opinion..

But I never understood the seemingly pathological need of skeptics to constantly tell others they are wrong, when they themselves have no clue as to what is the real truth

If we wanted a constant barrage of naysayers  we would have remained at ATS :P

Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: Pimander on March 24, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
I reckon the Russians are having a joke at the US habit of blaming aliens...  ::)

"I believe that the hypothesis of alien submarine bases should not be discarded," says Vladimir Azhazha. "Skepticism is the easy way: to believe in nothing, do nothing. Oceanographic Shipments rarely explore the great depths. It is therefore of utmost importance to analyze what the military saw down there."

About a week after the UFO files from the Russian Navy, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was involved in an exploratory mission to the bottom of Lake Baikal, in Siberia. Putin, on board a mini submarine, decreased exploration in the lake at a depth of 1,400.  We recall that Lake Baikal is one of the most profound and large pools on the planet.

In a report of 1982 shows a strange incident involving just the Lake Baikal.   
A group of divers was engaged in a military training mission at the bottom of the Siberian lake.   
During the mission the divers spotted a group of humanoid creatures dressed in a silver suit. 
The military tried to capture the aliens but three of the seven men were killed while four others were seriously injured.

Excerpts from...

Lake Baikal: Russia Reveals 'UFO Encounters'

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Russian/ufo3.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Russian_UFOs_002.html

Russian Navy UFO records say aliens love oceans

The Russian navy has declassified its records of encounters with unidentified objects technologically surpassing anything humanity ever built, reports Svobodnaya Pressa news website.
The records dating back to soviet times were compiled by a special navy group collecting reports of unexplained incidents delivered by submarines and military ships. The group was headed by deputy Navy commander Admiral Nikolay Smirnov, and the documents reveal numerous cases of possible UFO encounters, the website says.

Vladimir Azhazha, former navy officer and a famous Russian UFO researcher, says the materials are of great value.

"Fifty percent of UFO encounters are connected with oceans. Fifteen more – with lakes. So UFOs tend to stick to the water," he said.
On one occasion a nuclear submarine, which was on a combat mission in the Pacific Ocean, detected six unknown objects. After the crew failed to leave behind their pursuers by maneuvering, the captain ordered to surface. The objects followed suit, took to the air, and flew away.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Russian_Navy_UFO_records_say_aliens_love_oceans.html

KGB's Secret UFO Files Finally Made Public

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KGB's Secret UFO Files Finally Made Public
22.12.2005

KGB agents were making records of UFO observations in special Blue Folder

Files comprising the famous Blue Folder have been declassified a while ago. The prominent Soviet cosmonaut Pavel Popovich got the folder from the KGB in 1991. These days Mr. Popovich holds the position of honorary president of the Academy of Informational and Applied Ufology. The folder contains numerous descriptions of UFO flights and reports on some (mostly failed) attempts taken by the military in order to catch the aliens.

Aliens acknowledged back in 1968 UFO

In 1968, 13 leading aircraft designers and engineers of a brand-new aircraft section of the Soviet Committee on Space Technology and Exploration forwarded a letter to the Soviet Prime Minister Alexei Kosygin. Actually, it was a request to set up a special organization for the study of UFOs. A reply to the letter was signed by Academician Shchukin. It is an amazing document per se:

"A number of competent organizations of the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences in cooperation with the Chief Directorate of Meteorological Service, Defense Ministry and a few other agencies considered the issue of nature of the so-called flying objects. The organizations involved in the study of the atmosphere and space have been instructed to register and do research on any cases of UFOs for identification purposes. The USSR Academy of Sciences is charged with general monitoring of the phenomena, and therefore a special organization for the study of UFOs is not required."

"It was a real breakthrough," says Vladimir Azhazha, president of the above academy and keeper of the Blue Folder. "The authorities not only acknowledged the existence of UFOs for the first time, they also showed their great interest in the issue," adds he.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files/article002.html

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Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Pimander on March 25, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
Quote from: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
If we wanted a constant barrage of naysayers  we would have remained at ATS :P
I thought you wanted research here?  Iif we concentrate on the reports worth looking at and bin the nonsense ruthlessly then we can actually call it research as opposed to speculation.  :P

It really doesn't hurt to be ruthless with BS reports.  Members should not see it as personal.  I have wasted months looking at stuff people report uncritically only to find someone had already found out it was BS.  I would have benefited enormously from someone like me who had already wasted time looking at the reports.  My policy is to say what I know or suspect but don't criticise the messenger.

QuoteThe USSR Academy of Sciences is charged with general monitoring of the phenomena, and therefore a special organization for the study of UFOs is not required
This probably means that there was a special group secretly studying UAP/UFOs in the USSR and the contents of that book barely scratch the surface. :)

I'd agree that a lot of the more interesting reports are linked to water which is obviously, along with deep within the Earth, the most unexplored place on Earth.  We are only really familiar with the surface and atmosphere.

I still think RT News (formerly Russia Today) were having fun at the expense of the NATO policy of using UFOs as a smokescreen for everything secret. :P
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 25, 2015, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: zorgon on March 24, 2015, 07:54:53 PM

Well it is MY opinion that YOU are wasting your time trying to stop people from speculating about such things on a website that was created to speculate bout such things :P

All I can say to Astro is that the post he has made to Pimander made me giggle last night, because is was nigh two years ago I made almost the exact same post to Pi  :D

I ignored Pi's input for quite a while, but in time, I came to disprove my own previous beliefs which were extremely similar to that of Astro's, through the long hard slog of research, common sense and by reviewing the health of my own belief systems (that's the clincher).

Merely providing the input that I would have appreciated a couple of years ago... Now he's been given the two opposites:

1) Sorcha Faal Aliens are real
2) Sinny says it's all made up.

Now he can go and find his synthesis.

P.s, I interpreted the forums title as it's literal objective. I have recently been corrected in this regard, so please cut me some slack, I'll be cutting the slack I distribute in return. 

QuoteAnd naturally you have proof of this statement with documentation to back up your statement and are about to share it with us?

There is more proof of my hypothesis than there is of actual aliens.
You already know this, so I'll bypass the hoops.
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: micjer on March 25, 2015, 12:15:14 PM
Sorcha Faal is David Booth, CIA dis-Information agent


http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/sorcha-faal-is-david-booth-cia-dis-information-agent/question-1480439/?link=ibaf&q=&esrc=s
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: zorgon on March 25, 2015, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: Pimander on March 25, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
I thought you wanted research here?

I gave up on that after the last bruhaha and banning of the IG terrorists :P 

QuoteIif we concentrate on the reports worth looking at and bin the nonsense ruthlessly then we can actually call it research as opposed to speculation.

Speculation is fine and I will concentrate on the reports worth looking at on the website  Like I did at the beginning that got Pegasus the attention in the first place.

But spouting Sorcha Faal crap... is that really where we want to go?

John had a friend living in Australia... this fellow was a semi retired CIA agent and was involved in writing Fortress Australia...  He used to send me lots of emails with interesting topics but every other email was a Sorcha Faal report... So yes I had to double check his other stuff carefully. One day I wrote him back and asked why he promoted Sorcha's obvious lies...

I never heard from him again

QuoteIt really doesn't hurt to be ruthless with BS reports.  Members should not see it as personal.  I have wasted months looking at stuff people report uncritically only to find someone had already found out it was BS.  I would have benefited enormously from someone like me who had already wasted time looking at the reports.  My policy is to say what I know or suspect but don't criticise the messenger.

That applies to your average case  but Sorcha Faal has been know to be a paid shill for well for long before I ever got into this.

But feel free to be ruthless with the BS  as long as it is clearly marked BS for the nubes :P

QuoteThis probably means that there was a special group secretly studying UAP/UFOs in the USSR and the contents of that book barely scratch the surface. :)

Yeah they were called the KGB :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcKxfkxdeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcKxfkxdeM

QuoteI'd agree that a lot of the more interesting reports are linked to water which is obviously, along with deep within the Earth, the most unexplored place on Earth.  We are only really familiar with the surface and atmosphere.

Ask the NAVY  :P They are dropping hints all over the place even on the TV show NCIS where they made a HUGE POINT of mentioning AUTEC though it wasn't linked to the story

My problem is people are more interested in Sorcha Faal crap than actually tracing down the real stuff even when we already did the lead in SEVERAL times and at ATS

QuoteI still think RT News (formerly Russia Today) were having fun at the expense of the NATO policy of using UFOs as a smokescreen for everything secret. :P

The Russians have an odd sense of humor :P A German can get it.  RT is one of the best news networks out there right now that is independent  I used to like the BBC for my news  now I prefer RT  even if they toss in a joke or three
Title: Re: ‘Vladimir Putin advised by ALIENS’ Councillor blames ETs for Ukraine crisis.
Post by: Sinny on March 25, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
Agreed on the RT comments made by Z.
The Russians are running rings around Western PR!