Always liked Dan Aykroyd :P
QuoteLast Friday, Dan Aykroyd appeared on the third episode of The Huffington Post's new The HuffPost Show, and among other topics, shared his views on the U.S. Air Force's UFO cover-up and some details about his own UFO sightings.
QuoteThe conversation turned to UFOs when Hill asked, "I said if I am ever going to meet Dan Aykroyd I am going to ask him about this. You believe in UFOs. Is that right?"
There was a slight hesitation by Aykroyd, and a few giggles from off camera, but Aykroyd headed straight into his answer.
Aykroyd told Hill, "I do. I have seen four, and I can't say that they are alien craft and neither can the Air Force. The Air Force has been very interested in this. They don't deny the existence of these hyperdynamic, super aerodynamic craft. They don't deny."
Although Aykroyd says the Air Force does not deny the existence of alien spacecraft, he explains why he thinks there is a cover-up of that information.
Aykroyd continued, "Their anguish comes in that they can't tell you. They want to tell you anything but that they are extraterrestrial. Any excuse at all, even if they are unknown or unsolved. The Air Force cannot just come out and admit that there are extraterrestrial beings far in advanced of our culture that have built these machines."
Aykroyd also says he thinks that although there is a cover-up, the Air Force really doesn't know much more than the rest of us. He says, "They are very interested in what is going on, but like us, they don't know."
Hill then asked Aykroyd if he was willing to share more information about the UFOs he had seen.
"Two specifically were definitely aerial constructs of some kind," Aykroyd explained. "One of them with a light, and one of them dull gray, and they were structures – one of them going very slow, one of them hovering over me."
As for the other two, Aykroyd continued, "Then there were the two that my wife and friends and I saw – a high altitude sighting many years ago in Martha's vineyard. Two flying side by side. They were at about 100,000 feet up, and they were going fast."
Aykroyd then went on to share the account of one of his drivers. He says the driver used to be a cook at the Air Force's Strategic Air Command. The driver says one day a bunch of guys were gathered around a radar screen watching an object that was traveling at 70,000 miles per hour and performing "whip turns."
"I believe that there are probably many species coming and going and that the Air Force is very interested, but they can't come out and say," says Aykroyd. "Because then you're going to go, 'well wait a minute, the parish priest, the cop on the street, the President — you don't got the power. They've got the power!'"
If that were to happen, Aykroyd says there may be a "complete breakdown of society."
Aykroyd also recommended a book about UFOs and the CIA and FBI by Dr. Bruce Maccabee. The book is titled, The FBI-CIA-UFO Connection: The Hidden UFO Activities of USA Intelligence Agencies, and it reviews documents that Maccabee received via the Freedom of Information Act. Maccabee, a physicist, spent thirty-six years at the Naval Surface Warfare Center.
More Here--> http://www.openminds.tv/dan-aykroyd-explains-ufo-cover-up-on-the-huffpost-show/33221 (http://www.openminds.tv/dan-aykroyd-explains-ufo-cover-up-on-the-huffpost-show/33221)
Dan Aykroyd - Full Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5rQJpYHIAA
Also, if you interested in what he have to say, here is the 2012 full documentary "Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVCd50LXPGY
Quote"Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs - 2012 (Full Documentary)" explores past and present sightings from around the world with shocking real footage, much of it never before seen, that will leave even the most skeptical viewers scratching their heads. Along with the fascinating collection of stunning eyewitness videos, Aykroyd reveals his own vast knowledge of the strange and paranormal as he explores in detail his views on conspiracy theories, military secrets, and how UFO technology is currently part of our everyday lives.
Interisting to me, maybe for you too.
:)
Ps. Anyway, I'm still waiting for the photographs and tapes from O'Hare UFO airport incident he supposedly claimed to have. Just rumors it seems. :-\
Last question, at 3:05.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXpLX4c82c
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/chicago-ohare-ufo-leslie-_n_692515.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/chicago-ohare-ufo-leslie-_n_692515.html)
Isn't this the man who bought quite a lot of stuff re UFO's but refuses to show it to anyone?
Quote from: Just Looking on April 25, 2015, 05:31:54 AM
Isn't this the man who bought quite a lot of stuff re UFO's but refuses to show it to anyone?
In the last video in my opening post, at 3:05 the guy asks him about it. He tells people told him the footage existed etc. I dont think he ever got one copy in hands tho. If so, i suppose he would show it.
But who knows? :-\
I never believe in actors. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on April 25, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
I never believe in actors. :)
...and dont like Bob Marley. Got ya ;)
Quote from: ArMaP on April 25, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
I never believe in actors. :)
Well an actor is just a person with a job acting, they can't all be the same. I just wish people didn't assume they know them by what characters they act. We can't like or dislike these people they are strangers, we can like or dislike their work.
I suppose if he had said he had some photos or information that never appeared he may have been warned not to show them if there really is a reason to keep this all secret.
Quote from: Dyna on April 25, 2015, 06:39:56 PM
Well an actor is just a person with a job acting, they can't all be the same.
Nobody said they are.
QuoteI just wish people didn't assume they know them by what characters they act.
Well, don't assume my opinion is based on the characters any actor has played. :)
My lack of trust is actors is related to the fact that their work is making people believe in what they say, we can never know when one is acting as him/herself or some character.
QuoteWe can't like or dislike these people they are strangers, we can like or dislike their work.
I never said a think about liking Dan Aykroid, and what I don't like in Bob Marley is his work, I never met the man. :)
QuoteI suppose if he had said he had some photos or information that never appeared he may have been warned not to show them if there really is a reason to keep this all secret.
Or he may have been paid to say that, that's what he does for a living. :)
Quote"We can't like or dislike these people they are strangers, we can like or dislike their work."
I never said a think about liking Dan Aykroid, and what I don't like in Bob Marley is his work, I never met the man. :)
I know ArMap I just see people say these things all of the time (I love so and so he/she is a wonderful person) I didn't mean all of that for you. sorry.
Quote from: Just Looking on April 25, 2015, 05:31:54 AM
Isn't this the man who bought quite a lot of stuff re UFO's but refuses to show it to anyone?
This is one key point that has always bothered me about UFO "whistleblowers" They claim to have hard evidence but refure to show it or more importantly let anyone else study and confirm it
Dr Lier says he removed Alien implants. He passed away and no one has independently verified these to be alien and where are they now? He also claimed he had a piece of Roswell... but never let anyone touch it
Cherry Hinkle Source of the Dulce Material (according to John she was his source) says she has a box that can prove it all... but refuses to release it
Bob Lazar says he buried a piece of 115 but refuses to dig it up :P John Lear says he knows where it is but won't tell me :P
Phil Schneider shows a piece of Element 142 "Corbomite: in a video. Holds it up as if it was nothing (it would be extremely heavy and likely highly radioactive :P ) yet NO ONE ever questioned it or asked to look at it
Stanton Friedman has NEVER seen a UFO, Never made it as a Nuclear scientist) no PHD and onlt a couple years at failed jobs before turning UFO 'expert' on the lecture circuit but he says Bob Lazar is a Fraud
100's of supposed UFO crash retrieval and many annual symposiums on these yet never ONE piece of shrapnel to be tested...
Alien stargate Mayan/Aztech stones found in Mexico/Ecuador/Gautamala with no dig site or providence on the stones yet they are touted as fact
On and on it goes UFOlogist are WORSE at keeping secrets than the supposed Government coverup
As I've said before, in my mind at this point ufology is basically over, as far as it still being a topic with any real credibility is concerned. Given that some here will also know that I consider myself an abductee, that may seem extremely strange.
The reason, however, is fairly simply that I think the scene has become completely dominated and saturated by commercialistic con artists, to the point where determining the real validity of anything has become largely impossible. Ufology these days is a carnival; a cottage industry. It was not always that way.
Project Camelot was what began the disillusionment process for me, but putting up with Steven Greer's continual nonsense and ultimately not being shown anything substantial as a consequence, was what finished it. The fade to black at the end of Sirius marked the point where I shook the proverbial dust from my feet. I can only suspend disbelief for so long, and when a continual stream of profit-motivated bovine fecal matter is my exclusive reward for doing so, eventually I modify my opinion accordingly. I won't claim that my mind is completely closed at this point, but it isn't much more than ajar.
Mr. Aykroyd is an actor who I have always held in high esteem, particularly given that he has portrayed a number of characters who I am fond of. If he were to hypothetically read these words, I would tell him that my intent here is not at all to discount his individual experiences, which could well be entirely real. My reservation is, as mentioned, that there is a sufficient amount of fraud and disinformation now present, that genuine enquiry into the matter has become exceedingly difficult.
Quote from: petrus4 on April 26, 2015, 05:43:44 AM
As I've said before, in my mind at this point ufology is basically over, as far as it still being a topic with any real credibility is concerned. Given that some here will also know that I consider myself an abductee, that may seem extremely strange.
I agree but the abductee phenomena might not be Aliens in Flying Saucers. It may be something more supernatural. Jury is still out on that one for me :P But that said I have noticed that the vast majority of these abductiob stories are like UFOs they are fake and created by people who just want attention, When you dare question them they get violent
I had the same situation with two Astral Travel groups. Now for background these two groups were Lobsang Rampa followers so I figured these of all groups would be serious
So I went and asked if anyone could pop up to Venus for a look around. I was serious I expected some takers. What I got was attacked and kicked off the groups. The first group said how DARE I question their ability and just booted me WTF? the second group the admin wrote me and said much the same thing but I explained that I was serious and had thought a Rampa board was my best bet to find someone. After that he told me that the people can't do it on demand "it just happens at random" and suggested I do it myself. I told him I came here looking for CONFIRMATION of what I saw but they still suggested I go away
This has been my problem in recent years and has made me realize that no matter how much I do on the web, I will always find the majority are all wanna be's and SCAM ARTISTS :p
QuoteThe reason, however, is fairly simply that I think the scene has become completely dominated and saturated by commercialistic con artists, to the point where determining the real validity of anything has become largely impossible. Ufology these days is a carnival; a cottage industry. It was not always that way.
Yes and mostly a waste of time. The few reports that have any value are so buried you spend endless hours looking at crap. I tend to just watch stuff go by on FB to snag the odd good one but what really gets my goat is that the charlatans are getting main stream media exposure and more money,
I just don't have con artist in me so I starve :P It is even hard to get a coffee tip or beer tip on the website :P (yeah its on the front page :D
QuoteProject Camelot was what began the disillusionment process for me, but putting up with Steven Greer's continual nonsense and ultimately not being shown anything substantial as a consequence, was what finished it.
Camelot was the one I got all the John Lear info from so in the beginning they were good. Then they created Project Avalon forum and everything changed Long story Henry Deacon aka Arthur aka etc etc... was supposedly a funder of them but he was a true nut case. Result was John Lear was banned from Avalon and shortly after my stuff was erased and I was banned as well.
Greer same thing At first I was "Oh wow finally a real investigation... top people coming forward Congress will hear this" Then I discovered that Sgt Karl Wolf was a LIAR and they never retracted the obvious time discrepancy. Carol Rosin supposedly was with von Braun yet there is ZERO verification of this and she looks like Nancy Hutchinson/Linda Brown/Dr Rauscher type LOL She is on FB and I friended her and showed people the state of the art DEW weapons status. Well this pissed her off because she is selling that we have NO space weapons because of her work Oh really? Well she deleted my comments and unfriended me.
Cherry Hinkle... SOURCE of the DULCE material. Never heard of her until she went public last year or so on FB. I asked John who the F... she was and he said she is HIS source of everything Dulce related. She started posting all sorts of crap most of it obvious and exposed hoaxes and I started to question her, She claims she has a box that would prove Dulce but won't release it. She finally unfriended me too rather than answer questions
So what to do? Seems the more I dig the more the old sources are also coming up as scammers. The only thing I do get verification on is military stuff... all the UFO stuff is so buried in muck you get dirty just looking at it
Sad thing is the same applies to Ancient Alien searches and Free Energy interests. All these years and nothing solid, just BS Scam artists and endless worthless opinions on the web and no one can get together and agree on anything''What we have here is a TRUE "Tower of Babble"
QuoteMy reservation is, as mentioned, that there is a sufficient amount of fraud and disinformation now present, that genuine enquiry into the matter has become exceedingly difficult.
Well I suppose we can think that this is deliberate Best way to cover up any real stuff is bury it in cow puckies :D
Quote from: zorgon on April 26, 2015, 07:25:12 PM
But that said I have noticed that the vast majority of these abductiob stories are like UFOs they are fake and created by people who just want attention, When you dare question them they get violent
You just need one to be true ;)
QuoteGreer same thing At first I was "Oh wow finally a real investigation... top people coming forward Congress will hear this" Then I discovered that Sgt Karl Wolf was a LIAR and they never retracted the obvious time discrepancy. Carol Rosin supposedly was with von Braun yet there is ZERO verification of this and she looks like Nancy Hutchinson/Linda Brown/Dr Rauscher type LOL She is on FB and I friended her and showed people the state of the art DEW weapons status. Well this pissed her off because she is selling that we have NO space weapons because of her work Oh really? Well she deleted my comments and unfriended me.
Carol Rosin really is a disappointment for me. I thought she really was with von Braun in his last years. ::)
Quote from: petrus4 on April 26, 2015, 05:43:44 AM
As I've said before, in my mind at this point ufology is basically over, as far as it still being a topic with any real credibility is concerned. Given that some here will also know that I consider myself an abductee, that may seem extremely strange.
I don't agree.
The attention seekers, military cover stories and New Ager BS are not credible. There has still been some good UFO research that is largely ignored on the internet, especially on forums. ArMaP and Karl12 are aware of some of this work. I have studied a lot of the material a few years ago.
The real research just isn't sensational enough for people who want easy answers or answers that fit in with their world view. The media are in the main not interested and New Agers just want Galactic Federation nonsense. If you want easy answers then don't bother with UFOlogy as there are none.
Quote from: Pimander on April 28, 2015, 02:03:44 PMIf you want easy answers then don't bother with UFOlogy as there are none.
I WANT an easy answer :P After 60 years since Roswell, umpteen abductions, hundreds of crashed saucers I think I am entitled to an easy answer...
Show me just ONE dented old obsolete Flying Saucer. Surely the old prototype reverse engineered ones are in a boneyard somewhere by now
So yeah I want an easy answer :P
Quote from: zorgon on April 29, 2015, 01:32:27 AM
I WANT an easy answer :P After 60 years since Roswell, umpteen abductions, hundreds of crashed saucers I think I am entitled to an easy answer...
Tough luck! :P
To me it is obvious that there is a simple reason why there is no easy answer. Even in that short quote above you have a clue. I'll try to clarify.
Lets say Roswell has one answer (but may not even be a single incident just to complicate the matter). Abductions have at least two (possible three or four). Crashed "saucers" have at least two. And some of those answers overlap. Furthermore, if we look at the discussions on ATS or this site, actual Unidentified Flying Objects (i.e. unidentified not "saucers") have a multitude of explanations. Finally, the most common types of UFO are not even ever seen in space so space anomalies are a separate matter entirely.... ::)
So one easy answer? You have to be kidding. A hopeless task made harder by wrongly putting completely separate phenomena into one category by UFOlogists. If there really is a secret technology or genuine cover up of inter-dimensional aliens then which of those phenomena are likely relevant? Very few!
Quote from: RUSSO on April 27, 2015, 09:06:23 PM
You just need one to be true ;)
Carol Rosin really is a disappointment for me. I thought she really was with von Braun in his last years. ::)
I just finished Beters audio letters 19-21 ... Beter was on a Space Rocket Board headed by Von Braun (I can retrace to get the actual name of it); he also touched upon the final months of Von Brauns life..
Beter tells a very different story to the Roslin types... I know who my money's on.
I don't know why there is a lack of interest in Beters work...
The guys a TRUE whistle blower. .
For example, I had the Nazi's down for sabotaging the American Space Race.. However according to Beter, it was actually president Eisenhower and his advisors that hindered the American space race.. Their reasoning being that they didn't want Von Braun and his Army team (Army was initially contracted to enter the space race), partaking in the space race due to it's German (Braun) origins.
Instead, Eisenhower wanted the Navy to take the contract and start from scratch, leaving America far behind the Soviet Union.
(Take this into account with the Soviet Subversion od the US projects).
I may be the most optimistic guy here. Decades of diligent cataloguing by legions of dedicated amateurs has produced a data base offering insights into new patterns and into basic human perceptual processes. What is emerging may not be what you started out hoping for -- although that hope remains legitimate and likely to someday be fulfilled at some point in human history -- BUT your fundamental faith that the data had something real to tell us [something I always believed as well] has been vindicated. It never WAS 'all nonsense', and still isn't.
Here's just one example of using UFO data bases to monitor secret military activity [and NO, don't even bring up that nonsensical CIA guy's claim about U-2 flights]:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/140520-topol-ky.pdf
Here's a draft of a report of mine that suggests that serendipitous and unintentional 'control experiments' have provided compelling new realizations of how people interpret certain once-in-a-lifetime sky spectacles:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/1963_kiev-fireball-swarm-rev-B.pdf
People's visual cortexes are NOT malfunctioning, they are NOT hallucinating or in delirium The recognition/identification brainware, wired by evolution and trained over a lifetime, is functioning the way it's supposed to, we just didn't fully understand what its evolutionary-beneficial function really was.
Cheer up, guys. Nobody's saying "I told you so." The Maussons and Greers are flashes in the pan. Keep the faith, just remain able to entertain new explanations while not giving up on profound hopes.
PS I'm fascinated by Aykroyd's story of his dream summons to come outside and witness a mass sighting of a spiral in the sky. I have a theory of what it was, and why Aykroyd's story really is only imaginary.
PS I'm fascinated by Aykroyd's story of his dream summons to come outside and witness a mass sighting of a spiral in the sky. I have a theory of what it was, and why Aykroyd's story really is only imaginary.
could this be your theory.?...lol.. to much sampling of his own product
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T926QnFiTAc/TJzypP7BcII/AAAAAAAABeo/bDHGCouB4fQ/s1600/3_14_09_dan_aykroyd_kabik-34-588.jpg)
Quote from: space otter on May 12, 2015, 07:08:45 PM
could this be your theory.?...lol.. to much sampling of his own product
Top two items here explain my view:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/ufo_worldwide.html
Quote from: JimO on May 13, 2015, 03:02:39 AM
Top two items here explain my view:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/ufo_worldwide.html
Hey Jim,
I don't see anything in those links regarding an explanation or theory for the part about the telepathic message.
Did I miss it ?
Can you be more specific and post the relevant info in this thread ?
Thanks :)
Quote from: easynow on May 13, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
Hey Jim,
I don't see anything in those links regarding an explanation or theory for the part about the telepathic message.
Did I miss it ?
Can you be more specific and post the relevant info in this thread ?
Thanks :)
My hypothesis is that the event described in http://www.csicop.org/si/show/great_east_coast_ufo_of_august_1986/ was what sparked Aykroyd's recollection of a dream and he concluded there was a link between them. His description contained several features that could have been garbled versions of remembered press report details. The story sprang up from real events and a powerful imagination, in my theory.
If it were real, wouldn't other people have experienced and reported it as well?
Quote from: JimO on May 12, 2015, 06:42:54 PMThe Maussons and Greers are flashes in the pan. Keep the faith, just remain able to entertain new explanations while not giving up on profound hopes.
Well the Muassans and Greers, the Haramein's and Dona's.... are all getting literally RICH on their presenrtaions... no matter how much we try to show some sanity...
On the other side of the room the Phil Plaits and the Jim Obergs are making a living saying its all (mostly :P ) bunk. Without the former... the later would be out of business :P
And somewhere in between are those few that really want answers.
But today the noise vs signal ratio is so bad that it is not worth the time to even bother looking.
Not that long ago I went with John Lear to the Las Vegas Atomic Museum presentation of Area 51. The speakers were Col Charlse Halt, Nick Pope Col John Alexander, the last head of Blue Book and one other fellow ( I will look up the names later) George Knapp was also their asking questions
Now Halt gave us details of the Brentwater UFO case that I have not heard on the net before. It was very intersting and I will be ordering the DVD's soon.
The surprize was Nick Pope who came across as a debunker more than a UFO researcher.
John Alexander was getting angry at Charles for saying to much... but it was more like a correographed show than a real spat... As John left the podium he did through out one comment (Most people missed it even George. As he was getting off the stage he said "BTW, we track them on satellite"
I wanted to follow up on that after the speaking was done but John was ill and we had to leave
I thought that comment about the satellites tracking UFO's was the most importnat tidbit in that conference but I haven't had the time to follow up fro personal reasons
The other fellow was a military pilot and he said he has some good stories but that he wouldn't tell because no one seriously asked him... (and no one did even after that) I will look up his name shortly and edit this.
Point is the Charlatans and Debunkers have taken over. The few good stories worth looking into are so buried in BS it is not worth the time.
The old stuff has become boring to most and there really hasn't been any good new cases.
I might as well go hunt Dragons, Faeries and Elves :D At least they are real :P and a hell of a lot more fun
BTW Nice to see you back Jim.... At least I know your a closet UFO hunter :P
Quote from: zorgon on May 14, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Well the Muassans and Greers, the Haramein's and Dona's.... are all getting literally RICH on their presenrtaions... no matter how much we try to show some sanity...
On the other side of the room the Phil Plaits and the Jim Obergs are making a living saying its all (mostly :P ) bunk. Without the former... the later would be out of business :P
My business is accurate spaceflight. Last money I recall making for being skeptical was in 1979 when I beat out Stan F. for the Cutty Sark essay contest. Oh, yeah, that 'UFO special' for TV with that MASH actor in the mid-1980s.
We both agree it's MOSTLY but by no means ALL bunk. why the snarkiness?
Quote from: JimO on May 16, 2015, 05:49:34 AM
We both agree it's MOSTLY but by no means ALL bunk. why the snarkiness?
After all these years you would think you know my style :P
But maybe we should focus on those few :D I know we hashed out STS 75 to death but did you ever tell us what you think of the STS-80 where they form the circle? You may have don't recall seeing it though.
I do admit surprise that your paycheck doesn't reflect your skeptic activity though. Makes it hard to call you a paid shill :D
Quote from: zorgon on May 16, 2015, 09:36:32 AM
But maybe we should focus on those few :D I know we hashed out STS 75 to death but did you ever tell us what you think of the STS-80 where they form the circle? You may have don't recall seeing it though.
Let me guess, ice crystals with bad gases? :D ::)
QuoteI do admit surprise that your paycheck doesn't reflect your skeptic activity though. Makes it hard to call you a paid shill :D
;D
Quote from: zorgon on April 26, 2015, 07:25:12 PM
I agree but the abductee phenomena might not be Aliens in Flying Saucers. It may be something more supernatural. Jury is still out on that one for me :P
Evocation can be an interesting alternative to Netflix, for an evening's entertainment. :o
QuoteCamelot was the one I got all the John Lear info from so in the beginning they were good. Then they created Project Avalon forum and everything changed
Avalon is entertaining as long as you keep in mind that they are mostly full of shit. Camelot would be more enjoyable if Kerry wasn't such a raving narcissist in love with the sound of her own voice. I wouldn't know how many times I've been watching her videos while thinking, "For the love of Kali, will you
shut the fragging hell up, woman?!" I want to listen to the
cranks and weirdos
people that she is interviewing, not her.
QuoteGreer same thing
I give Greer credit for one thing. For him, it was probably more transparently about the Benjamins than anyone else I've seen, where this topic is concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P2qL3qkzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P2qL3qkzk
QuoteCarol Rosin supposedly was with von Braun yet there is ZERO verification of this
Yes, but she apparently
did get the timetable right.
Evocation seems to be the strongest lead/hold we have on these entities, I've come to learn. I expect any serious UFOlogist, to be exploring these avenue's...
Pets R us.. I have a new found interest in your evocation experiences, could I tempt you into creating a thread for us?
Z, I believe in the Fae, but I really, really want to believe in dragons..
Could I find one today?
Quote from: Sinny on May 19, 2015, 02:19:12 AM
Z, I believe in the Fae, but I really, really want to believe in dragons..
Could I find one today?
Reply here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8260.msg113700#msg113700
Quote from: petrus4 on May 17, 2015, 10:43:30 AM
Yes, but she apparently did get the timetable right.
That is what makes her statements weirdly intriguing. Apparently she did.
Quote from: zorgon on May 14, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
John Alexander was getting angry at Charles for saying to much...
If the anger was regarding Rendlesham, the question surely has to be: Was Alexander angry because the cover up was of a military accident or was there really something "alien" at Rendlesham. Don't forget, RAF Woodbridge was the largest nuclear weapons storage facility in Europe (outside Russia) even if that is meant to be a secret.
So were aliens interested in nukes or were the military using the aliens cover after an accident where secrecy is paramount? Or were they testing the security at an important nuclear site? If they were testing security then I say the security was poor as we know the event happened. ;)
Quotebut it was more like a correographed show than a real spat... As John left the podium he did through [sic] out one comment (Most people missed it even George. As he was getting off the stage he said "BTW, we track them on satellite"
The games people play. ::)
ETA: Some of the most convincing anecdotal evidence of possible ET activity that I have seen came from a former NORAD employee. As you know they monitor all orbiting objects on behalf of both the military and NASA. According to this guy (I would have to access my old hard drive to find the details) there have been "objects" (for which there is a secret code word) exhibiting "possibly" beyond human capabilities) tracked entering Earth's atmosphere from space that behave like they may be potentially intelligently controlled. Apparently "we" don't have a clue who or what they might be therefore it is a military secret (never let the enemy know the limitations of your capability). I found the evidence convincing because the guy seemed to have real knowledge of working inside the mountain where NORAD operate from but it could be lies. It seems likely to be true but don't ask me why, as I can't say!
Don't forget the "Wow Signal" from SETIs Big Ear. Never adequately explained but unfortunately not repeated either to my knowledge. Could that have been a signal from one of these objects? Or a secret military satellite more likely? Foolish idea Jim? Or am I thinking along the right lines in your view?
Jim, if you are reading this, do the Russian's put their Moon, Venus and Mars pictures on a publicly accessible database as I have struggled to find much?
If a real alien body were displayed for a few powerful and their friends, it would be in the best interest to make the scene look like a museum and to add a written description that misled.
Add a bunch of look alikes under child mummy on the web and the whole thing would be debunked instantly.
If there are alien bodies and if they ever let anyone see them and I would assume there would be some, wouldn't such precautions be taken?
Quote from: Dyna on May 21, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
If a real alien body were displayed for a few powerful and their friends, it would be in the best interest to make the scene look like a museum and to add a written description that misled
That may be true... however this particular museum mummy was well known and on display to the public. Simple DNA testing can verify it.
QuoteIf there are alien bodies and if they ever let anyone see them and I would assume there would be some, wouldn't such precautions be taken?
They claim on the internet that Stan Meyers was killed over his water care... you think that a leaked alien picture has a chance?
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Interisting case review of O'Hare Airport UFO, 2006
QuoteEvery so often, a UFO sighting occurs that is more interesting for what it tells us about our own government than for what it tells us about the UFO itself. The UFO event over Chicago's O'Hare Airport in 2006 in one such example. The short encounter was rather unremarkable, as UFO sightings go, but the reaction of the airline and the FAA was anything but ordinary, suggesting some type of cover-up between the implicated authorities. What's more, the sighting reminds us that even nearly 40 years after the US government disavowed all responsibility for investigating UFOs, there are still many parties secretly involved in keeping UFO activity out of the public eye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZOZwZC6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZOZwZC6M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZOZwZC6M)