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Many discussions on Pegasus have focused on the time gap between Trinity and the arrival of the saucers in 1947.

Much speculation has been proposed that it couldn't possibly take that long to find us after an Atomic explosion.

Now it turns out that no such gap exists -


1945/8/15  12:0  20  119:30:0W  46:35:0N  3323  NAM USA WSH  7 8 
HANFORD,WA:6 NAVY F6F PILOTS:HUGE PINK OVOID HVRS/65k'alt/20min:nuclear plant 
Ref# 150 WEINSTEIN,D; UFO/AIRCRAFT ENCOUNTERS Page No. 7 MIL. BASE
(Hatch database)


Mid- July 1945 - UFO SIGHTING OVER HANFORD NUCLEAR REACTOR

NICAP Case report

Radar detected a fast-moving object that was in a holding pattern directly above the Hanford plant.

It was extremely high and the pilots couldn't see it at first. As they rapidly increased altitude the pilots all spotted it at about the same time and headed directly for its position. None of them could recognize it, but they could see it well from their vantage point.

It had a saucer-like appearance, was bright, extremely fast, and very high.

The F6F had an operating ceiling of 37,000 feet, but on this day they exceeded that considerably and still couldn't get close enough. It didn't make any overt moves, gave no signals, just hovered there as if observing, staying well enough out of reach.

When some of the engines began to fail, and fuel consumption got critical, the planes returned to base one by one, and the strange craft disappeared as quickly as it came. The six F6F "Hellcats" made visual contact with the object described as the size of three aircraft carriers side by side, oval shaped, very streamlined like a stretched-out egg and pinkish in color.

The witness who filed this report said that some kind of vapor was being emitted around the outside edges from portholes or vents. The object was observed at noon in a clear sky at an estimated altitude of 65,000 feet. After hovering in a fixed position above the Hanford Nuclear Reactor for an additional twenty minutes, the object disappeared going straight-up as the six Hellcats limped back to the Pasco Naval Air Station (Washington).

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So add one more to the list of pre- Arnold sightings, this time within a few days of the Trinity explosion. It's also another one showing up at TS Manhattan project locations.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Manhattan_Project_US_Canada_Map_2.svg/700px-Manhattan_Project_US_Canada_Map_2.svg.png)

(http://www.nicap.org/images/NAM47.jpg)
(ed note: Larry Hatch database partial map of 1947 UFO sightings)

http://www.nicap.org/waves/1947map.htm (http://www.nicap.org/waves/1947map.htm)

Out of Curiosity A51, is it also your opinion that the Alien UFO Saucers arrived  or visited Earth after the Nuclear explosions during that 1940's period from other parts of the Universe ?

Or do you think maybe some were already here or maybe relatively close by to us, maybe nearby, or within our Solar System ?

QuoteMuch speculation has been proposed that it couldn't possibly take that long to find us after an Atomic explosion.

Now it turns out that no such gap exists -

QuoteMany discussions on Pegasus have focused on the time gap between Trinity and the arrival of the saucers in 1947.

Quote from: astr0144 on August 09, 2015, 04:47:55 AM
Out of Curiosity A51, is it also your opinion that the Alien UFO Saucers arrived  or visited Earth after the Nuclear explosions during that 1940's period from other parts of the Universe ?

Or do you think maybe some were already here or maybe relatively close by to us, maybe nearby, or within our Solar System ?

Well that's the million dollar question now isn't it.

Did they come to visit after the explosion or have they been here all along?

Or is it a combination of the two?

There is another UFO sighting during WWII of a large saucer seen by RAF crew members similar to the size of the one mentioned in the OP.

But primarily during WWII the UFO sightings (foo fighters) were described as green fireballs.

During 1947 they were most commonly reported during the day as silver saucers but at night were reported as fireballs of various colors. We now know that is because at night saucers cause the air to glow just like a neon sign does because of the voltage.

However in 1948 and 49 the sightings again reverted to primarily green fireballs and caused quite a stir among the military because of all the TS bases they were snooping on and a TS conference with top scientists and military attending was convened to sort out this alarming trend.

Remote controlled bombs were the most worrisome of the various possibilities discussed. This was also a concern during WWII.

Read the declassified minutes of the meeting here -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=757.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=757.0)

(note the alarming locations mentioned of the sightings)



But back to your original question - sighting reports before WWII appear to be more occasional and once in a blue moon.

But after WWII is when unprecedented flaps began to appear during various years. Early years appear to be focused on monitoring nuclear production facilities,experimental missile facilities and in later years even on nuclear missile bases, going the extra step to interfere with the facilities by shutting down the missile launch mechanisms and electronics.

So... in past history perhaps the sightings were routine checkup visits, but WWII may have alerted them it was time to step in and pay closer attention to the level of destructive technology being achieved.

The reason I mention WWII as the beginning of the modern UFO era is because there were sightings even before Trinity, from the beginning of WWII.

As the scale of hostilities increased, so too did the amount and scope of sightings.

From NICAP's database -


1939

July, 1939; Pennsylvania, United States
Resembled a modern day jet airliner without wings; weird glow (Page 14 Ref. 1)

Oct. 1939; Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Egg-shaped object with spots like portholes observed through an astronomical reflector telescope. (Ref. 3; Report in NICAP files.)

Nov. 13, 1939; Brockworth, England
Motorist heard high-pitched humming sound, saw a gray bell-shaped object hovering over a field, dark window-like patches visible on its side. Wave of green light emanated from underside. After about 2 minutes the green light retracted as if solid, the object tilted at a steep angle and silently flew away. (Ref. 3; Jenny Randles & Peter Warrington, Science & The UFOs, 1985, p. 3.)

1940

Spring 1940; Hinsdale, IL
William T. Powers (later associated with the Center for UFO Studies) saw five disc-shaped objects traveling at about 100-200 m.p.h. They disappeared into a cloud and did not re-emerge. (Ref. 3; Jerry Clark Encyclopedia, 1992, Vol. II, p. 380.)

May 30, 1940; Toledo, OH
At sunrise a dark ellipse was seen moving northeast, then making a 90-degree turn. Color visible on the dark object changed from red to orange to yellow. (Ref. 3; Report in NICAP files.)

June 1940; Hoy Island, The Orkneys, Scotland
On a bright sunny day an anti-aircraft unit member focused a height and range-finder on a flattened sphere moving rapidly on a horizontal course and tracked it for 10 seconds. It's height was computed to be 38,000 feet. (Ref. 3; Randles & Warrington, 1985, p. 9.)

1941

1941, Spring; Cape Girardeau, MO
Charlotte Mann, a Texas woman whose grandfather was a pastor of the Red Star Baptist Church, told Leonard Stringfield, that her grandfather was called out to give last rights to some crash victims, who were described as from a crashed object. There were three bodies all described as "not human". (Stringfield, July 1991 Status Report)

April 5, 1941; Charleston, MO
"Submarine" bobs up in Mississippi and takes aboard a negro farmer before disappearing. (News clipping)

Sept. 1941;  Bt. African mainland of Mozambi
Que and Island of Madagascar strange globe glowing with greenish light about half the size of full moon. (Page 17 Ref. 1)

Early Dec. 1941; Georgia, United States
Light moving in counterclockwise circles (Page 17-18 Ref. 1)

Dec. 22, 1941; NY, United States
Round sharply outlined object with bright aluminum or chrome finish (Patrick, delete single quotes) (Page 18 Ref. 1)

1942

1942; Tientsien Province, Northern China
Photos of UFO observed down city street. Appears to have been faked since people are pointing at object and their distance and alignment are flawed.

Feb. 25, 1942; Los Angeles, CA
Known as the "Battle of Los Angeles". This incident involved thousands of witnesses and comes with photographic evidence. What is really unusual about the case is the fact that it occurred five years before the first UFO wave of 1947. (Page 19-22 Ref. 1)

Feb. 25, 1942; Los Angeles, CA
2:30 AM. Radar/visual. Formation of 6-9 luminous white dots in triangular formation in NW, moving very slowly. Steady radar blip coming in from sea, over aircraft factories. Five people killed by AA fire. "Battle of Los Angeles) Multiple UFOs, anti-aircraft fire.  (Source: UFOCAT)

Feb. 25, 1942; Los Angeles, CA
3:00 AM+.  Radar/visuals. (Source: UFOCAT)

Feb. 25, 1942; Los Angeles, CA
Even. Radar/visual. White disc hovered high in sky. Steady radar blip coming in from sea, over aircraft factories. (Source: UFOCAT)

Feb. 27, 1942, Timor Sea
Large disc; departed location at 3,500 miles per hour (Page 23 Ref. 1)

March 14, 1942; Banak, Europe, Norway
5:35 PM. Radar/visuals, Ground radar and German pilot. 100 meter long cigar, 15 meter diameter, hovered, shot straight up at impossible speed. (Source: UFOCAT)

March 25, 1942; Zuider Zee, Holland
An RAF bomber returning from a raid on Essen, Germany, was followed by a luminous orange disc or sphere. As it came closer the tail gunner opened fire on it, to no apparent effect. Finally it sped away at an estimated 1,000 m.p.h. (Ref. 3; Flying Saucer Review, March-April 1962.)

Spring 1942; Kentucky, United States
Powerful searchlight shining down, emanating from unidentifiable object; sometimes remained motionless (Page 23 Ref. 1)

Spring 1942; Illinois, United States
Light gray, sharply defined rectangle; gray in color (Page 23 Ref. 1)

June 25, 1942; Holland
Shining copper object, like setting sun, the size of a full moon (Page 23-25 Ref. 1)

Summer 1942: Guam, Western Pacific
A US Navy radar officer who requested anonymity recalled several incidents of unexplained radar returns on his vessel's air search radar in the area between Guam and Saipan during the summer of 1945. Typically they appeared as "large groups" of echoes detected at about 100 miles range on courses inbound towards the ship. Plotted speeds were over 1000 mph. The targets "passed overhead at approximately two thousand feet and showed up on the radar screen as definitely solid objects." Visual lookouts on alert deckside saw nothing, and the radar officer himself on one occasion went on deck to search the sky, but he too saw nothing. He was adamant that the targets were not due to "ionized clouds, inversions, sea gulls, mechanical defects, or any of the other common explanations." The equipment was carefully checked and found to be functioning properly. (Martin Shough)

Summer 1942; Tasman Peninsula, Bass Strait between Island of Tasmania and Australia
A singular airfoil of glistening bronze color; domed upper surface; possible crew member, Cheshire cat emblem on dome. (Page 29 Ref 1)

June (late), 1942; Cussey-sur-l'Ognon, Doubs, France
Several witnesses heard a motor-like sound and saw a blue-gray oval object with a dome on top hovering just above the ground in a wooded area. It had portholes and a tripod landing gear, with light emanating from the portholes. As witnesses approached to within 20 meters, the object took off vertically and disappeared. A 1.5-meter diameter circle was found in the grass. (Ref. 3; 'La chronique des OVNI', Jean-Pierre Delarge, Paris 1977, p. 261.)

Aug. 5, 1942; Solomon Islands
Saucer shaped cigar with round dome on  top; approximately ninety feet in diameter (Page 27 Ref. 1)

Aug. 11/12, 1942;  Nr. Aachen, Germany
A phenomenon described as a bright white light (Page 29-30 Ref. 1)

Aug. 12, 1942; Solomon Islands, Tulagi
Daytime. During lull in fighting air raid siren was sounding. Formation of silvery objects directly overhead with slight wobbling, numbering close to 150; mighty roaring sound. Reported by Sgt Stepen J Brickner. USMC, 1st Marine Division (Page 28 Ref. 1)

Aug. 13, 1942; Washington, DC
11:00 PM. Radar/visual. 68 UFOs over capitol, photos, big CAA investigtion. (Source: UFOCAT)

Aug. 17/18, 1942; Osnabruk, Germany
A rocket with a long white tail of light (Page 30 Ref.1)

Mid Aug.1942; Tula Region, near Moscow, Russia
Huge cigar-shaped object something like a Zeppelin, but much bulkier and rounder at the front; aluminum hued color. (Page 30-31, Ref 1)

Aug. 29, 1942; Columbus, MS.
Control tower operator at Army Air Base saw two round reddish objects hover over field. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Fall 1942; Long Branch, NJ
A research engineer saw a dark elliptical object sharply outlined against the star field in the night sky. A flickering light was visible at the trailing end as it sped from horizon to horizon in 10-15 seconds.  "I saw a nose view, side view, and tail view", the witness said. (Ref. 3; Report in NICAP files.)

October 1942; Radway Green, Cheshire, England
In the evening two witnesses saw an elongated object with a dome on top and lights at either end descend toward the ground. At the apparent landing site a circular burned area and footprints were found. (Ref. 3; Michel Bougard, 'La chronique des OVNI', Jean-Pierre Delarge, Paris, 1977, p. 263.)

Oct. 9-10, 1942; Guadalcanal
10:00 AM. R/V. During the Guadalcanal invasion U.S. Navy fleet radar detected an incoming unidentified object which also was observed through binoculars. When it approached within 3,000 yards gunners opened fire on it, whereupon the object made a sharp turn, accelerated and circled the entire fleet twice at very high speed at about 3,000 to 4,000 feet altitude. It was visually observed to be a silvery disc with dome on top, and portholes around the dome. (UFOCAT; Ref. 3; MUFON UFO Journal, No. 185, July 1983; tape-recorded witness interview.) (Update: Kevin Randle has the deck logs from the dates in question and there is no mention of the incident. This was originally published in the MUFON. UFO Journal, but has been unable to verify the information).

Nov. 28/29, 1942; Turin, Italy
Object two to three hundred feet in length 500 mph & four red lights spaced at equal distances along its body. (Page 34-35 Ref. 1)

Nov. 1942; Bay of Biscay, England
Thing massive in size; no wings; electronic interference. (Page 35-36 Ref. 1)

Dec. 1942; French coast, over mouth of Somme River
Two amber and orange lights, flying in unison; not aircraft. (Page 36 Ref.1)

1943

1943; Persian Gulf
Seaman Matthew Mangle, from the bow of his ship, sighted a huge disc beneath the surface of the water. The object glowed with a soft greenish light, paced the ship at about 12 knots before speeding up and moving out of sight. (Report 1011)

1943 Early; Bearing Sea, N. of Alaskan Peninsula
2300 hours. While patrolling the Bearing Sea, N. of Alaskan Peninsula and bearing north at about 20 knots, a gunner on starboard 20 mm gun was on watch on the USS Williamson. It was a very dark night and he reported a row of at least eight red lights in a row, traveling parallel and slightly ahead of his ship. The row was canted at about a 15 degree angle to the surface of the sea. The lights paced the ship for about an hour until the watch was relieved. Witness wasn't able to find out what happened after his incident.

Approx. 1943; Washington, D.C.
Sighting of UFO formation by Metropolitan policeman. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, VII]

1943; Russell Islands
Lloyd Kenyon, shipfitter, aboard ship with several others who observed a number of high speed objects. (Portand, Oregon Journal, 6/27/1947)

Mar. 13, 1943; Naples, Italy
Roman candlelight's; bright very large red light that looked like a huge irregular mass of neon. (Page 39, Ref. 1)

April 5, 1943; Long Beach, CA
Flight instructor and student pilot saw a glowing orange disc dive at their aircraft and hover alongside, then accelerate and climb away out of sight. (Ref. 3; Witness report to Jan Aldrich, Project 1947.)

May 1943; Norwich, England
Sighting of dome-shaped object and humanoid beings. (Ref. 3; Anders Liljegren, AFU Bibliography.)

May 12/13, 1943; Duisburg, Germany
Object like meteor; reddish orange in color; emitted a burst giving off a green star. (Ref. 1 Page 39)

May 23/24, 1943; Dortmund, Germany
Large number of so-called rockets (Page 39-40  Ref.1)

May 27/28, 1943; Essen, Germany
Cylindrical object, silvery-gold in color, with several portholes evenly spaced along its side; motionless until speeding away at several thousand miles per hour. (Page 40-41 Ref.1)

May 1943; English Channel
Large, stationary orange balloon on or near the sea. (Page 41 Ref.1)

Summer of 1943; North Atlantic
PB2Y5 paced by red-orange object. Pilot made several turns but object matched maneuvers, finally object took off ahead and disappeared in 30 sec. (Richard Hall, UFOE I, page 23; Interview with witness by Richard Haines)

Sept. 1943; Oncativo, Argentina
4:00 a.m. Navarro Ocampo, driving between Rosario and Cordoba, saw a large, saucer-shaped object on the ground 500 m to the left of the road. It glowed with a bluish-green light, made a whistling sound, rose to 100 m altitude, then left at fantastic speed. A strange metal block is said to have been found at the spot. (Magonia #50, GEPA Dec., 68)

Sept. 6, 1943; Stuttgart, Germany
Objects resembling silver discs. (Page 43  Ref.1)

Oct. 14, 1943; Schweinfurt, Germany
During a bombing run a B-17 crews of the 384th Group noticed, as fighter attacks suddenly fell off, they encountered a cluster of small discs, described as 3" wide by 1" thick. (Martin Caiden/Andy Roberts)   Document found

Nov. 1943; Escondido, CA
On a dark moonless night a family heard a soft humming sound and saw a disc with dome and square windows hovering about 15 feet above the roof of their house. Human-like silhouettes were visible through the windows. When the woman shone a flashlight, the object blinked out and disappeared. (Ref. 3; Greenwood, UFO Historical Revue, June 1998.)

Nov. 1, 1943; Enroute Milne Bay, New Guinea from San Francisco (base San Cristobal Island)
6:25-6:30 (1825-1830). Lt. A. Swalling, USNR, OOD, USS Gilliam APA 57. Radar indication bearing 185 deg. T. Distance 8000 yards. Commenced zigzagging, excercised general. Rada indication faded. (USS Gilliam Ship's Log).

Dec. 1943; Oslo, Norway
At 10:30 p.m. four women in a car saw an orange bell-shaped object ascending. Three automobiles in the vicinity experienced EM effects and the engines stalled. A 1.5-meter diameter area of melted snow was found on the ground. (Ref. 3; Australian Flying Saucer Review, No. 7, 1967; cited by Project 1947.)

Dec. 11, 1943; Edmen, Germany
Unidentified object; size of thunderbolt aircraft; streak-like vapor trail. (Page 51 Ref.1)

Dec. 14, 1943; Naples, Italy
Small round bright light. (Page 52  Ref.1)

1943 (exact date unknown); California, United States
Object, international orange in color, elliptical shape; wobbled in unstable manner; no wings, jet exhaust, smoke, or vapor trails. (Page 51 Ref.1)

Jan. 2/3, 1944; Halberstadt, Germany
Two rockets; altered course; fiery head and blazing stern. (Page 54  Ref.1)

Jan. 5, 1943; Kiel, Germany
Black plate-sized discs. (Page 55 Ref.1)

1944

Jan. 28, 1944; Somewhere over France
Airborne red light. (Page 56 Ref.1)

Jan. 29, 1944; Location unknown
Red ball; yellow/red flames followed aircraft through evasive action. (Page 56 Ref.1)

Feb. 1944; Bass Strait, Australia
At 2:30 a.m. A bomber crew at 4,500 feet altitude saw a dark shape pull alongside the plane and pace it at a distance of about 100 feet for about 18-20 minutes. A flickering light was visible at its trailing end, which illuminated the rear portion of the object. While the object was alongside all radio and direction-finding instruments on the plane malfunctioned. Finally the object accelerated and sped away. (Ref. 3; Bill Chalker, The Oz Files, 1996, pp. 35-36.)

Feb. 4, 1944; Frankfurt, Germany
Two sightings: stationary object of tear-drop shape, resembling a balloon; shiny silver ball looking like a very bright weather balloon with a metal sheen. (Page 59 Ref.1)

Feb. 4, 1944; Dutch coast
One long black stationary object, similar to a small flak burst floating. (Page 59 Ref.1)

Feb. 8, 1944; Frankfurt, Germany
Silver-colored ball-like object changing stationary. (Page 59  Ref.1)

Feb. 19/20, 1944; Leipzig-Berlin area, Germany
Two objects: glowing balls; snake-like motion. (Page 59-60 Ref.1)

Feb. 19/20, 1944; Coblence and Aachen, Germany
Silvery cigar-shaped object like an airship; appeared to be a line of windows along the bottom of the object. (Page 60 Ref.1)

Feb. 24/25, 1944; St. Quentin, France
Three silver objects & resembling zeppelins & moving independently of the wind & not interconnected. (Page 60 Ref.1)

March, 1944; Carlsbad, NM
Air Force pilot saw fast-moving UFO speed out of sight over horizon. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

April 11, 1944; Location unknown, probably Germany
Projectiles resembling glider bombs; a large orange glow & smoke trail. (Page  66 Ref.1)

April 25, 1944; France
Black tear-dropped craft; probable Me-163. (Page 63 Ref.1)

April 26, 1944; Essen, Germany
Things; four orange glows; short stubby wings; football-sized­; looking like large oranges. (Page  64-65 Ref.1)

June 1944; Normandy, France
Luminescent discus-shaped object. (Page 67-68 Ref.1)

June 1944; Palmyra Atoll
About midnight. Anchored at Palmyra Atoll, Edward W. Ludwick, Executive Officer on a Coast Guard crewed cargo vessel was witness to an unusual object.   After searching for a lost Navy aircraft, a moving star-like light which began to swell like a balloon as it came closer. Viewed with binoculars: it was a round sphere hovering 5X brighter than stars, it moved slowly for half an hour covering 90 degs, then headed northward. (Clark & Farish, Foo-Fighters of WWII).               

June 1944; Adriatic Sea
At 11:00 a.m. a flight of three P-38 fighters at 33,000 feet saw above them, at an estimated altitude of 50,000 feet, a silver disc. The object descended to about 40,000 feet and paced the fighters for 3 minutes, then accelerated and sped away. (Ref. 3; Jan Aldrich, Project ACUFOE, from CUFOS report form.)

June 6, 1944; just off Omaha Beach, France
Edward Breckel,  gunner on the USS George E. Badger, reported that a dark ellipsoidal object was seen five miles away about 15 ft above water moving in a circular course for 3 minutes. (Chester, page 67, CIRFO Orbit, Jan 1955)

June 6, 1944; Normandy Coast, France
Dark ellipsoidal object & blunted on each end like sausage. (Page 67 Ref.1)

June/July 1944; Normandy, France
Spheres approximately the size of a football. (Page 70 Ref.1)

July, 1944; Turk Island
An unidentified was tracked by radar only by 11 witnesses. (Martin) Sources are Condon Files, NICAP files Not much of a citation, but this is all we have.  Radar only doesn't mean much as the Navy and AAF were running into false returns around the Pacific. However, these are interesting as there were indications that the Navy did a special study during the war and indications are that other study(ies) during the Korean War were conducted. (Jan Aldrich,UFO DNA - PB4Y1)

July 1944; Brest, France
Two men of the 175th Infantry Regiment, 29th Infantry Division, saw a large rectangular object with no apparent source of propulsion move steadily over the front lines and out to sea. The UFO at one point passed in front of the moon, briefly obscuring it from view. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, IV]

July 1944; Normandy, France
Targets flying at extremely high altitudes. (Page 81 Ref.1)

Sept. 1944; Antwerp, Belgium
Around 9 p.m. in the evening a Canadian soldier, stationed near the front lines close to Antwerp, observed  "a glowing globe" traveling from the direction of the front line towards Antwerp. It seemed to be about a meter in diameter and looked as though it was of cloudy glass with a light inside. It gave off a soft white glow. Its altitude seemed to be about 13 metres, speed about 50 Km/h, and there was no sound of any sort. It was obviously powered and controlled. It was followed by another which in turn was followed by others, five in all." (Don Berliner files)

Aug. 1, 1944; Ploesti, Rumania
Yellow object traveling several times the speed of an aircraft. (Page 71 Ref.1)

Aug. 10/11, 1944; Palembang, Sumatra
Reddish orange balls, about the size of a baseball; spherical object, probably 5 or 6 feet in diameter, of a very bright and intense red or orange in color. (Page 71-74 Ref.1)

Aug. 12, 1944; Pelice, Southern France
Enormous disc; circular lights (changing from bright yellow top white) like portholes in a ship; motionless. (Page 75 Ref.1)

Aug. 13, 1944; Kaoe Bay, Indonesia
Very brilliant light appearing to hover in air for at least five minutes. (Page 76 Ref.1)

Aug. 1944; Bt. St. Lo and Vire, France
Cherry-red light; size of large star; sat motionless in sky before disappearing into clouds. (Page 79-80 Ref.1)

End Aug., 1944; Mattoon, IL
A mysterious man appeared at windows, as if in search of someone. He stunned witnesses by pointing at them a device that "made consciousness dissolve" and left a strange cloying smell behind (Magonia #51, FSR 61, 3) (Needs to be checked.  This did not check out, no newspaper reports could be found. Apparently the entire story was made up many years later.

Summer 1944; Normandy, France
Los Angeles columnist George Todt, in a party of four Army officers including a Lt. Col., watched a pulsating red fireball sail up to the front lines, hover for 15 minutes, then move away. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, IV]

Summer 1944; Italy
Egg-shaped, metallically glistening motionless object. (Page 78 Ref.1)

Sept. 1944; Oak Ridge, TN
Metal tube hovers over AEC plant.

Sept. 1944; Unknown Japanese island
White object & egg-shaped & very brilliant. (Page 76 Ref.1)

Late Sept. 1944; Dover, England
Solid black cylindrical-shaped; red glow emitting from rear. (Page 81-82 Ref.1)

Sept. 1944; England
Bright spherical object & like a rolling ball. (Page 83 Ref.1)

Sept. 1944; Antwerp, Belgium
Glowing globe, cloudy gas with a light inside & three to four feet in diameter. (Page 82-83 Ref.1)

Fall 1944; (p.84) Holland
Light moving high in night sky. (Page 84 Ref.1)

Oct. 1944; Southeast Holland
Field Artillery officer and men saw a brilliant object moving from NW to SW, crossing an arc of about 90 degrees in about 45 minutes. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, IV]

Oct. 10, 1944; Alghut, Sweden
At 8:00 p.m. a man on a bicycle was suddenly illuminated by a light beam from the woods, then he saw a large shining sphere rise rapidly from the ground and hover at treetop height. It appeared moon-like; golden in color, and made no sound. After about 5 minutes the object abruptly disappeared.  (Ref. 3; Anders Liljegren AFU archives.)

Aug. 10, 1944; Sumatra
Sighting of maneuvering UFO which paced B-29 (Reida case) during mission. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Oct. 16, 1944; Formosa, Taiwan
Small black dot; hanging stationary. (Page  Ref.1)

Oct. 20, 1944; Po Valley, Italy
Red light appearance of an aircraft light. (Page 84 Ref.1)

Oct. 20, 1944; N. Florence, Italy
Two orange balls diving into the hills. (Page 84 Ref.1)

Oct. 25, 1944; Omura, Japan
Multiple sightings of possible balloons. (Page 78 Ref.1)

Oct. 29, 1944; Munich, Germany
Light blue colored ball of fire approximately three feet in diameter. (Page 85-86 Ref.1)

Oct. 30/31, 1944; Cologne, Germany
A ball of fire; circular, pale orange, clean edged light. (Page 86 Ref.1)

Nov. 1944; near Lingayen Gulf, Philippines
Night?. USS Gilliam ship's log reports that LTJG  Kendall Bruce, Fire Control Officer on the ship, while on watch observed a bright green globe-shaped object raising out of the headlands reach altitude and speed off. Too slow for missile. (Chester, pages 95-96, Letter to NICAP).

Nov. 1944; France
415th Night Fighter Squadron pilot saw formation of round objects. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Nov. 5, 1944; Singapore, Malaya
A long purple-blue parabolic trail. (Page 77-78 Ref.1)

Nov. 5/6, 1944; Aachen/Bonn, Aachen/Cologne, Germany
Possible jet; single light; 5 free lance visuals on jets, no A.I. or G.C.I. contacts; several flares similar to jets. (Page 86-87 Ref.1)

Nov. 16, 1944; Enroute Leyte, Philippine Island
2355 or 11:55 pm local. USS Gilliam, enroute Leyte, Philippine Island, from Oro Bay, New Guinea.  Ship's log reports that Lt. J.L. Besmond, OOD, on USS Gilliam, APA 57, in company Task Unit 79.15.1. Combat reports unidentified object, distance 21 miles. [no further information]. (USS Gilliam Ship's Log) [See Nov. 1944 entry above]

Nov. 22, 1944; Germany
Spherical object, fluctuating in brightness, pyrotechnic pink in color, changing speeds violently, swift and jerking movements. (Page 89 Ref.1)

Nov. 24, 1944; Northern Italy
Round amber light, luminous orange-yellow, blinding light; felt unbearable heat. (Page  89-93 Ref.1)

Nov. 26, 1944; Mannheim, Germany
Red light that disappeared in long red streak. (Page 93-94 Ref.1)

Late November (possibly 28-30), 1944; Strasbourg, Germany
Eight to ten lights in a row, glowing orange, and moving at terrific speed. (Page 95 Ref.1)

Dec. 2, 1944; Villafranca, Ghedi Airdrome area, Italy
A steady, seemingly hanging light. (Page 96 Ref.1)

Dec. 5, 1944; Rhine River area, Germany
Alleged aircraft that climbed out of range in nothing flat. (Page 96 Ref.1)

Dec. 14/15, 1944; Erstein, Germany
Brilliant red light & appeared to be 4 or 5 times larger than a star going 200 mph. (Page 96,130 Ref.1)

Dec. 1944 (within first two weeks of Ardennes offensive); Germany
Amorphous reddish-glow that at times appeared cigar-shaped. (Page 97-98 Ref.1)

Dec. 17, 1944; Breisach, Germany
5 or 6 flashing red and green lights in T-shape. (Page 100,130  Ref.1)

Dec. 22/23, 1944; Hagenau, Germany
Two lights that appeared to be a large orange glow coming from ground - followed plane - appeared to be under perfect control (Page 102,130  Ref.1)

Dec. 23/24, 1944; Germany
Red streak in sky. (Page 103,130 Ref.1)

Dec. 23/24, 1944; Germany (no positive location)
Glowing red object shooting straight up; appeared to be aircraft doing a wingover and going into a dive and disappearing. (Page 103,130 Ref.1)

Sometime bt. Dec. 16 and 24, 1944; Germany
Amorphous reddish-glow that at times appeared cigar-shaped. (Page 103-104 Ref.1)

Dec. 26/27, 1944; Germany
Multiple sightings: red balls of fire; two yellow streaks of flame & disappeared from view; the crew thought they felt prop wash; a group of lights that made distinct lines, somewhat like arrows; row of vertical white lights. (Page 103,131 Ref.1)

Dec. 26/27, 1944; Worms, Germany
Circular, fiery ball; triangle of ovals three circular, reddish-blue in color, vivid lights, looking like flames, in a tight inverted triangle formation. (Page 104-106 Ref.1)

Dec. 27, 1944; Luneville, France
Two sets of three red and white lights. (Page 107-108,131 Ref.1)

Dec. 27, 1944; France
Orange lights, singly and in pairs, suspended in air, moving slowly before disappearing. (Page 108  Ref.1)

Dec. 28, 1944; Neuwied / Koblenz Germany
A green ball about six inches in diameter; motionless and did not appear to have anything supporting it. (Page 108 Ref.1)

Dec. 28, 1944; Ardennes, Belgium
Large white light; no radar contact; went straight up at a tremendous speed; disappeared. (Page 108-110 Ref.1)

Dec. 1944; Austria
B-17 pilot (William D. Leet) and crew, on a lone wolf mission, were followed by an amber-colored disc. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Dec. 1944; Bt. Strasbourg and Manheim, Germany
Bright fuzzy round ball, twice the size of full moon; yellow, white, red tint that was not solid color; no radar return. (Page 118-119 Ref.1)

Dec. 1944; Bt. Frankfurt and Karlsrhue, Germany
Three to four very bright balls, completely illuminated red, yellow, white and blue in color; size of tennis ball at arms length. (Page 119 Ref.1)

Dec. 1944; Somewhere bt. eastern France and Western Germany
String of lights, twelve to fifteen in number, orange to yellow in color, approximately four feet in diameter, stretching twice the length of crews aircraft; no radar contact. (Page 120 Ref.1)

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1945

1945; near Okinawa, Guam
Ground radar. No details.

1945; Tokyo Bay, Japan
Night (?). Photo obtained from Naval Intelligence. Aerial photo shows an object or light below aircraft (infrared?). Joe Chamberlin asked for intel reports on foo-fighters after his return from his visit from Europe and 415th Night Fighter Squadron. (No further information).(Lt. Col. Joe Chamberlain's Air Force papers within General of the Air Forcess H. H. "Hap" Arnold collection at Library of Congress).

1945; Hanford Plant, WA
This is a broad-daylight radar/visual, involving not the typical UFO, since the object had a "saucer-like appearance"

1945; Habbebishopsheim, Germany
An American soldier saw a disk-shaped object come down rapidly, oscillate, and land. The site could not be found in the dark. The event took place 35 km northwest of the town. (Magonia #52, Atic)

Jan. 1945; Germany
Another 415th Night Fighter Squadron pilot was followed by three red and white lighted objects over Germany. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Jan. 1, 1945; Ardennes, Belgium
Pair of fog lights; bright yellowish orange; flying in tandem; three feet in diameter. (Page 114-117 Ref.1)

Jan.1/2, 1945; North of Strasbourg, France
Foo fighters. (Page 131 Ref.1)

Jan. 2, 1945; The New York Times
Carried an AP dispatch from France about several recent "foo-fighter" sightings. Lt. Donald Meiers said he had twice been followed by UFOs. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III]

Jan. 10, 1945; Iwo Jima, Japan
An amber light pass parallel and at same altitude. (Page 125 Ref.1)

Jan. 14/15, 1945; Ingweiller, Germany
A large orange glow in sky approx. 5 ft. in diameter. (Page 131 Ref.1)

Jan. 18, 1945; Oyster River, near Vancouver Island, Canada
Large silvery cylinder or balloon that appeared to discharge another balloon or object, each traveling in separate directions. (Page 132 Ref.1)

Jan. 26-31, 1945; Between Soloman Islands. Louis Graci and 4 otherv sailors USS McCracken, APA 198, Troop Transport. Submerged round object about the size of gun turret, 20', with a dull finish sharply outlined and no sound. Ship passedover it laying still in the water. Not reported as sailor thought at the time it was a sea turtle. (International UFO Bureau report form date 25 Sept. 19760.

Jan. 29, 1945; Bt. Wissembourg and Landau, Germany
Two amber colored lights about one foot in diameter. (Page 129,131 Ref.1)

Jan.-Feb, 1945; Pasco NAS, Washington
Commander R. W. Hendershot, USNR, reported that radar targets were detected and interception was attempted at least twice by F6F Hellcats with negative results. Flying an SJS, Hendershot attempted an interception of high altitude, of slow-moving blips. Negative results. (Chester, page 142. Letter from Hendershot to APRA in NICAP files. 4th Air Force Intel Summaries indicate overflight of Hanford Lab, and possible countermeasures using Navy assets at Pasco NAS [NARA]).

Feb. 2, 1945; Colmar, France
Unusual green light & moving rapidly. (Page 133 Ref.1)

Feb. 7, 1945; Alethea, Pacific
Afternoon. Lt. Commander Norman P. Stark in a F6F on Combat Air Patrol with the USS Wasp. Alert for bogie at 30,000', 10 miles west on radar. Interception ayttempted but by that time bogie had passed over the fleet heading back to W, outrunning pursuit. (Web site: A WWII F6F Navy Fighter Pilot's Experiences In The Pacific. By LCDR Norman P. Stark USNR(R), Jan. 1, 2000. Witness: Japanese jet recon aircraft.)

Feb. 8, 1945; Nr. Strasbourg, France
Yellow light. (Page 133 Ref.1)

Feb. 9/10, 1945; Riegel, Germany
Very bright light moving slowly. (Page 133 Ref.1)

Feb. 13/14, 1945; Bt. Rastatt and Bishwiller, Germany
Two sets of lights; separated after being attacked and then returned to original position. (Page 136 Ref.1)

Feb. 14/15, 1945; Freiburg, Germany
String of lights & (1 red one in center, 4 white ones on each side) blinking off and on. (Page 136 Ref.1)

Feb. 15/16, 1945; Pisa, Italy
Multiple sightings: flare; flare that seemed to spiral. (Page 136 Ref.1)

Feb. 15/16, 1945; Viareggio, Italy
Alleged jet; multiple spurts of flame; no radar return. (Page 136 Ref.1)

Feb. 16, 1945; La Spezia, Italy
Possible jet: dropped what looked like white flares; no radar contact. (Page 136-137 Ref.1)

Feb. 17, 1945; Central Po Valley, Italy
Observed two very bright lights appear directly in front of aircraft; fired upon without result. (Page 137 Ref.1)

Feb. 17, 1945; Massa and Central Po Valley, Italy
Red ball of fire that did not appear to be Jet A/C. (Page 137 Ref.1)

Feb. 17/18, 1945; La Spezia, Italy
Multiple sightings: (1) blinking light; (2) reddish white light going off and on in spurts, faded out during chase; (3) light, a glow alternating between weak and bright was chased several times, never caught. (Page 138-139 Ref.1)

Feb. 21, 1945; Po Valley, Italy
Alleged flares: cluster of 11 or more colored flares that remained motionless; cluster of 15 orange balls of fire. (Page 139-140 Ref.1)

Feb. 21, 1945; Piacenza, Italy
Two large red balls of fire; hovering. (Page 140 Ref.1)

Feb. 22, 1945; Nr. Leghorn, Italy
Three lights red-orange in color that did not appear to be flares. (Page 141 Ref.1)

Feb. 27, 1945; Bologna, Italy
Chased three lights in shape of triangle observed; no radar contact. (Page 141-142 Ref.1)

Feb. 1945; Chemnitz, Germany
Flying wing, giving off a yellowish-red intermittent glow. (Page 149 Ref.1)

Mar. 1945. Belfast, Maine
A man out hunting observed an elongated object flying very slowly, tilted toward the earth. It crashed into some trees at the end of a clearing. The enormous craft seemed undamaged as it rested briefly on the ground, then lifted again with a humming sound, started to spin, released a shower of fine silvery threads, and rose straight up, disappearing in seconds. (Magonia #53, FS May., 59)

Mar.1945; New Mexico, United States
Object aluminum colored, 12 to 14 feet off ground, motionless, swept away like dragonfly. (Page 142-143 Ref.1)

Mar. 1945; Aleutian Islands (Incorrect month. See Summer of 1945)
Aboard the US attack transport "Delarof," 14 sailors saw a dark sphere rise out of the ocean, follow a curved trajectory, and fly away after circling their ship. (Magonia #54, Evidence 30) An official report on the incident was sent to Washington. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, IV]

Mar. 3, 1945; Misburg, Germany
Two balloon-like silver balls. (Page 143 Ref.1)

Mar. 5, 1945; Either Holland or Northern Germany
Two sightings: (1) large orange ball hanging in air; (2) similar ball that was moving horizontally at same altitude. (Page 145 Ref.1)

Mar. 9, 1945; North Fresian Islands
Three lights; had the appearance of white flares dropped in air; called foo fighters. (Page 145-146 Ref.1)

Mar. 13, 1945; Bologna, Italy
Two sightings: (1) 100 hundred balls of orange fire; (2) two balls of  foo fire. (Page 147 Ref.1)

March (mid) 1945; South Pacific
1:00 p.m. Sailors and Marines on the Battleship U.S.S. New York near the Admiralty Islands saw through binoculars and radar detected an object hovering overhead at about 20,000 feet. It was silvery and very shiny. After about 30 minutes the captain ordered gunners to open fire, but shells could not reach the object. After a few more seconds the object climbed out of sight at a fantastic rate of speed and disappeared off of radar. (Ref. 3; MUFON UFO Journal, No. 203, March 1985.)

Mar. 18, 1945; Florence, Italy
Chased light, no radar contact, then light disappeared. (Page 148 Ref.1)

Mar. 19/20, 1945; Speyer, Germany
Saw 2 Foo fighters; one orange and one green ball. (Page 148 Ref.1)

Mar. 23, 1945; Bergamo/Ghedi, Italy
2 balls of foo fire. (Page 150 Ref.1)

Mar. 23, 1945; Germersheim, Germany
Stationary airborne object. (Page 150 Ref.1)

Mid-Mar. 1945; New Guinea
Object, silver in color, very shiny & much larger than the brightest star; unaffected by gunfire; departed upward at a fantastic rate of speed . (Page  151-152 Ref.1)

Mar. 24, 1945; Nagoya, Japan
Multiple sightings: yellow ball of fire about 6 inches in diameter; orange and red flashes; six white balls of fire; grayish ball of fire about size of soccer ball; red ball of fire. (Page 152-153 Ref.1)

Mar. 25, 1945; Bt. Mannheim and Darmstadt, Germany
Six or seven circular, yellowish-orange objects, solid color, and brightness; apparently individually controlled. (Page 153-154  Ref.1)

1945, Spring; Norman, Oklahoma
Day. Listed as winter (1944-45 but suggested closer to spring 1945) Naval Air Technical Training Center, South Base. Vern Seifert (then student) later a pilot. Standing in the chow line with others when one pointed out the spinning  shimmering aluminum or stainless  steel bright sphere which seemed to  have line lines running up and down giving it a texture.  It hovered, then seemed to instanteously skip over degs, then resume hovering.  It was below 1000 ft, about 35-40 ft in diameter.  Men moved into chow hall so did not see it disappear.(NIACP (NICAP?) Report Form 13 Feb 1967)

Apr. 3, 1945; Kawasaki, Japan
The records of the 20th Air Force reveal that as early as this date, flying from the Marianas on a night incendiary mission, some crews reported "Balls of fire followed our aircraft." Less than two weeks later after an early morning attack on Tokyo there is a note in the intelligence resume, "Several balls of fire observed." (Reference: Sky Giants Over Japan: A Diary of a B-29 Combat Crew In WWII, by Chester Marshall, pages 184-185--Article - A Flashback Great Balls of Fire.) This fireball article was related by Richard M. Keenan, member of the 444th Bomb Group, 58th Wing, at West Field on Tinian.

Apr. 3/4, 1945; Honshu, Japan
Multiple balls of fire sightings: size of basketball; streamer of light behind the ball of fire; ball of fire emitting a steady phosphorescent glow; wing in connection with ball of fire & amber colored searchlight; stream of fire emanating from object, twelve inches in diameter, followed through evasive action. (Page 157-158 Ref.1)

Apr. 7, 1945: North Sea
A wingless object, able to stop in mid-flight and travel thousands of miles per hour. (Page 158-159 Ref.1)

Apr. 7, 1945; Nagoya, Japan
Ball of fire changing colors; orange to red. (Page 161 Ref.1)

April 23, 1945; Atomic Fission Bombs Memorandum
A memorandum for the Secretary of War from General L. R. Groves, "Atomic Fission Bombs" says: "1. Within four months we shall in all probability have completed the  most terrible weapon ever known in human history, one bomb of which could destroy a whole city....5. The world in its present state of moral advancement compared with its technical development would be eventually at the mercy of such a weapon. In other words, modern civilization might be completely destroyed."


May 2, 1945; Fala Island, Truk Atoll
Two airborne objects & red circles of light & changing from a cherry-red to orange to a white lights and then cherry-red again; followed for over an hour; no radar return. (Page  163 Ref.1)

May 14, 1945; Nagoya, Japan
Red or flame-colored light, constant position, same size as B-29 landing light. (Page 166 Ref.1)

May 25, 1945; Tokyo, Japan
Fireball follows a B-29 of the 39th Bombardment Group for 50 miles. "A 'fireball' picked us up at the coast and followed us for 50 miles before falling off toward the sea." Crew 44, 62nd Squadron - 39th Bomb Group

May 25, 1945; Atlantic Ocean
In early morning on a sunny day with intermittent clouds, a B-17 bomber was en route from Morocco to Dakar, Senegal. A silvery disc or ellipse was observed opposite the sun position, estimated to be 5 to 10 miles distant. The object paced the aircraft, hovering at times.  (Ref. 3; Harley D. Rutledge, Project Identification, 1981, p. 251.)

May or June, 1945; Okinawa
Daylight. The crew of a Marine transport witnessed a cylindrical object with three smaller dics which appeared to enter the larger object, then took off with tremendous acceleration. (NICAP)

Summer 1945; Aleutian Islands
Aboard the US attack transport "Delarof," 14 sailors saw a dark sphere rise out of the ocean, follow a curved trajectory, and fly away after circling their ship. (Magonia #54, Evidence 30) An official report on the incident was sent to Washington. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, IV]

Summer of 1945; Okinawa, Pacific
11:00 am. Naval officer witnessed strange event on radar.  E. L. Wells, then Lt. J.G. aboard the escort aircraft carrier Salamaua (CVE-96), was interceptor officer. While south of Okinawa he and his group were disturbed by the appearance of a "blip" on the screen that appeared to be traveling toward them at a terrific rate of speed. They were unable to distinguish any shape, but the object was estimated to be traveling at about 1,000 miles an hour, moving on a course of zero one zero, coming in from the direction of Formosa and traveling toward Japan. At that time they feared it was a Baka bomb, but it was apparently moving too fast. They braced themselves and waited for it to hit. Then, after tracking it to just a few miles from the ship, as the radar made another sweep, they lost it. (Rullan)

Summer of 1945; Taganrog Bay, Sea of Azov, Rostov region, Russia
Daytime. 9-year old boy was alone fishing for his family's meal and was about to return home when he watched a "giant plate" descend from the sky. The saucer smashed into the water causing a strong impact and creating a fountain of water spray all around the witness, which totally soaked him. The plate was about 5 meters in diameter; its hull was metallic reflecting the rays of the sun. Incredibly the witness felt no fear. The disc had descended on a sandbar, slightly covered by water only several meters from which the boy had been fishing. Suddenly, bubbles appeared around the disc and a "man" came out from the disc. The man was dressed in a silvery overall. He "jumped" from the top of the disc and approached the witness. He stopped at about 6 meters from the boy. His head was completely hidden under a non-transparent, oval-shaped helmet, and he had something resembling a large "can" behind his shoulders made of a dark-toned material resembling tinted glass. There was some communication (see full report) and then the "man" bade goodbye and climbed into the disc and vanished inside. The object rose up, hovered briefly, submerged into the water like a submarine. At this point the witness took his bucket and went home.   (Rullan) 

June-July 1945; area of Japan
Re: The 9th Bomb Group located on Tinian Island. "During our night missions in June and July a UFO phenomenon was reported. Our air crews started sighting balls of fire, i.e., glowing objects about the size of a full moon which flew around in the vicinity of our flying patterns over Japan. One of our crews reported that one of the objects followed their airplane half way to Iwo Jima. I saw them on two missions. I don't remember any reports of any hostile action by these objects and the reports of sightings stopped after a couple of months. The object of these reports was dismissed by some experts as the planet Venus. And, after these reports started coming in, some crews did mistake the rising full moon as one of these balls of fire. Some reports speculated that these balls of fire were exhausts from a Japanese development called a Baka Bomb, but exhaust flames can only be seen from the rear; and these objects appeared to have the same size and intensity in whatever direction they were traveling. I have never heard of any official assessment as to what these objects were. I had an occasion to ask General LeMay about them several years after the war and he had no explanation. I am sure that what I saw was neither Venus nor the moon nor a Baka Bomb; hence, for me, they were UFOs." ( http://www.9thbombgrouphistory.org/Chapters/Chapter_03.pdf  Page 27-28)

June 18, 1945; Japan
A fluctuating light round in shape that changed from bright red, to dim orange. (Page 180 Ref.1)

June 19, 1945; Japan
B-29 followed by strong white light. (Page 180 Ref.1)

June 19, 1945; Fukuoka, Japan
One bright ball of fire; no fuselage or any wings. (Page 180 Ref.1)

June 25, 1945; NE of HonoluluHawaii 26_08' N, 148_05' W
Daytime.. Navy ship not identified. Reported that an object described as a balloon was sighted at ship...travelling E. at an altitude of 30,000' estimated speed 20 knots. The actual time of the sighting is unknown. [Western Defense Command, Annex #3 to G-2 Periodic Report #183, 1200 GCT] (Jan Aldrich)

July 2, 1945; Japan
Several balls of fire much larger than supercharger glow, but of somewhat the same color. (Page 182-183 Ref.1)

July 4, 1945; near Yokohama, Japan
A/C Charles G. Chauncey was flying the B-29 on a bombing mission on a planned target of Kawasaki. Due to some evasive action the radar operator became confused and the bombs were dropped on Yokohama. Pilot Chauncey describes what happen next. "After coming away from our bomb drop, we saw the UFO's. I especially recall seeing two groups of them in single file. One group of six were lower than we were and coming towards us from the front, their heading taking them off to or left. The other group was more distant and headed in the opposite direction, but were at about our level. The each looked and appeared like a great ball of fire, but there was no fire trail. Their color was very subdued, not blazing like a torch. They did (not) bother us and we did not bother them."

July 7, 1945; Sasebo, Japan
Foo fighter; a big ball of fuzzy orange-red light; B-29 fired on object, appearing
to hit with no affect. (Page 186 Ref.1)

July 12, 1945; Honshu, Japan
Light phenomenon spotted enemy aircraft apparently trailed by large orange light traveling with it at same speed. (Page 186-187 Ref.1)

Mid-July 1945; Pasco NAS /Hanford Nuclera Plant, Washington
Noon. Roland D. Powell and 5 other F6F pilots. Object was very bright and had saucer-like appearance; was the size of three aircraft carriers, side-by side, oval shaped, very streamlined like a stretched-out egg and, and pinkish in color; Hovered in fixed position and then went straight-up and disappeared. (Chester, Page 188 Ref.1 / MUFON UFO Journal)

Summer 1945; Aleutian Islands
Crew saw large round object emerging from sea; 150-20 feet in diameter; object circled ship; three white flashes observed in direction object departed. (Page 188-189 Ref.1)

Aug. 1945; Ulithi
Twilight (just after sunset). Andrew Cimbals reported a red streak like a hot bar of steel, not a flame in the sky in the east, travelled overhead toward Japan. Duration about 40 seconds. (Wilkins, Harold, Flying Saucers Uncensored, Farish & Clark).

Aug. 1945; Okinawa, Japan
Cigar-shaped, metallic, and without markings or visible openings, and 35 to 50 feet in length. (Page 189-190 Ref.1)

Aug. 6, 1945: Hiroshima
The United States called for a surrender of Japan in the Potsdam Declaration on 26 July 1945, threatening Japan with "prompt and utter destruction". The Japanese government ignored this ultimatum. American airmen dropped Little Boy on the city of Hiroshima on 6 August 1945, followed by Fat Boy over Nagasaki on 9 August.
August 1945; 600 miles ENE of Kyusha, Japan
(Possibly after Hiroshima bomb abt. 2:00 a.m) Dan MacDougald, Jr., Officer of the Deck; the Quartermaster (unnamed by MacDougald), and a sailer named Troina (rating not recalled0 who MacDougald remembered as very competenton in both radar and optical range finding, all from the USS Bradford. Star like object travelling horizontally with the horizon.  Checked with three radars with no indication. Optical range finder on infinity so more than 40,000 yards. Had crossed the bow and was apparently increasing its distance. Its color was white with a reddish tinge.  After reaching 10 degrees on the Port bow it seemed to turn to its right, increase its speed and altitude and disappeared on an upward line of flight changing color to white with a bluish tinge. Task commander voice came over the TBS asking for reports of the object. Others ships answer, but MacDougald remained silent when the Admiral wanted to know who observed the object. (Letter to Congressman E. Mendel Rivers, Chairman of the House Armed Service Committee, letter to NICAP)

Aug. 28, 1945; nr. Iwo Jima
Daytime. Sgt. Leonard Stringfield in a C-46 were flying at 10,000 feet, between the Japanese islands of le Shima and Iwo Jima, when their "C-46 suddenly developed trouble in the left engine." Suddenly, "the plane dipped," and the engine struggled to keep working. It "sputtered oil" and the C-46 began to lose altitude, dropping approximately 25-50 feet.  Looking out his "starboard-side" window, he was "shocked to see three teardrop-shaped objects." Looking carefully, he determined that the "three unidentifiable blobs" were "about the size of a dime held at arm's length." They were "brilliant white, like burning magnesium." Flying in a "tight formation," the objects "were traveling in a straight line through drifts of clouds, seemingly parallel to the C-46 and equal to its speed." (See detailed report) Note: "magnetic-navigation instrument needles" in the cockpit "went wild." (Keith Chester)

Sept. 2, 1945; Surrender of Japan

Date not known (but probably after Japanese surrender.; Okinawa to Samar, Philippine Islands
2400-0400 watch. LTGJ John Kopke, OD; Frederick M. Seehell, Quartermaster of the LSM 220 reported two green lights that appeared off port about 8-10 degs up bearing 333 degrees relative to course. Grew larger as it approached, passed 35-40 degrees to port, and disappeared at same elevation.  Circulat shape with haze behind 2X diameter of objects. (Letter 4 April 1952, to USAF in response to LIFE magazine article of April 1952)

Sept. 25-27 (exact date unknown), 1945; Buckner Bay, Okinawa
Night. George M Reynolds, Machinist Mate, First Class, USS Beaver AS-5/ARG-19 with Submarine Squadron 45. Bluish light moved to the south, turned right, went over to the west, stopped and stood still. When it moved again, back to the general area it started from. (Chester, 195-6)


http://www.nicap.org/waves/1939-1946.htm (http://www.nicap.org/waves/1939-1946.htm)

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1946

Jan. 31, 1946; nr Bridgeton, New Jersey
2:23 p.m. Radar and flying boats otherwise unspecified, reported an unidentified object in the air 40 miles SE of Philadelphia detected near Bridgeton.  Flying boats sent to check with no result. Blamed on unusual cloud formation. (Aldrich, Philadelphia [PA] Enquirer  1 February 1946)

April 25, 1946; Anima-Nipissing Lake, five miles west of Latchford, Ontario, Canada
Don Cameron, his wife, and their children were on the lake, cutting a channel for their boat, they saw between 12 to 14 small, disk-shaped objects come down at a 45-degree angle a mere 75 feet in front of them. Appearing to be about twice the size of a dish, the objects jumped on and off ground of height of two feet, spinning in the ice [Note: The previous sentence is incomplete in thought.-CF-]. The family all watched. As Don Cameron walked toward them, they rose at the same angle and shot off through trees on a nearby ridge without touching the branches. The objects left black marks on the snow and ice. Queried about this, filter officials stated the date and circumstances corresponded to those of similar reports from various parts of the country. Cameron said the objects descended in a chain ­ "making a rattling sound." They had reported it to no one at the time. Cameron stated: "I couldn't see any windows on the flying saucer. It was circular but changed to disk shape according to the angle it was seen from."... "We looked at it for two hours and are certain it was no figment of the imagination," he concluded. (Aldrich, Feindt, CUFOS)

April 25,1946; 5 mi. west of Latchford, Ontario, Canada
7:45 p.m. Tom Cameron, 24, and a neighbor, Bob Cole, 28, were just back from cutting ice on Anima-Nipissing Lake when they watched a mysterious object for two hours with binoculars and the naked eye as it played pranks in the night skies. The men were sitting in a shack by the lake when they saw a big, circular flare of light in the eastern sky. Above the treetops it shone green, red, and blue. Through the binoculars the object, which they saw was solid, appeared about three feet in diameter. It shot up and down noiselessly and across the skies at terrific speeds "far in excess of those of a jet plane." The saucer never went overhead, but went as high as 80 degrees above the horizon.  (Aldrich, Feindt, CUFOS)

May 1946; Angelholm, Sweden
At twilight while walking home, a prominent industrialist saw a light in the woods and went to investigate. He saw a disc with dome and oval windows on the ground. Around it were about 11 beings with transparent helmets and uniform-like clothing apparently working on the craft. Later he saw the craft take off emitting bright red light, then speed away. Burned grass and other trace marks were found at the site.  (Ref. 3; Flying Saucer Review, March-April 1972.)

May 1946; LaGrange, Florida
A Navy gunnery and radar officer observed a dark elliptical object which moved slowly overhead, disappearing in a cloud bank. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, I]

May, 1946; Lagrange, Florida
Forenoon. LTJG Andrew A Titcomb, gunnery and radar officer on terminal leave reported a dark elliptical object moving slowly east to west at about 1000 feet disappearing in clouds. (Aldrich, Hall 2, page 6)
Swedish Defense Minister said:

"The first reports of strange phenomena over the country began to come in to the press and military authorities at the end of May, 1946.  By the end of July hardly a a day went by in succession without a large number of  reports from various parts of the country. A similar increase occurred again at the beginning of August. In between the frequency of reports has been relatively low and during September fell to about a single case a day." (UFOs A History 1946, 73)
The "Baker Blast", July 25, 1946

July ??, 1946; Indian River Inlet, Delaware
Dusk. Two high school students (names not known) reported that a disc came up from the water, turned and descended back into ocean. (Carl Feindt, Reference: Irene McDonald, Delaware MUFON; UFOCAT PRN ­ 123407)

July 10, 1946; Sweden
11;10 p.m. UFO: crashed or landed in water. (Feindt Case #52. Reference: AFU Sweden, #G054 [Archives for UFO Research ­ Sweden & Scandinavia], News clip, UFOCAT PRN ­ 138534)

July 18, 1946; Southeastern Norway
Bt. 12 and 12:30 p.m. A "ghost rocket" crashed into Lake Mjøsa. Several witnesses observed a V1-like object coming in low from the west at about 50 meters height. The witnesses first heard a strong whistling sound, not exactly like that associated with known aircraft. The object flew so low as to cause the trees to sway. It impacted in Lake Mjøsa about two kilometers from the western shore and seven kilometers from Minnesund, where the depth is 300-400 meters. It was cigar-shaped, about 2.5 meters long, with about one meter-long wings placed one meter behind the nose. The front and back parts were shining like metal, but the middle section including the wings was dark. The wings seemed to flap a little, as if made of fabric. No fire, exhaust, or light was seen. When it hit the lake, the water splashed several meters into the air. There was no explosion.

July 19, 1946; Sweden
Only fifteen minutes before the Kölmjärv crash, 11-year old Kurt Larsson from Storbäcken, 20 km north [of] Överkalix, was frightened by an object that hit the small Lake Kattistjärn (23 km NE of Kölmjärv) where he was angling. A roaring sound was heard from above and seconds later a 10-15 meters tall column of water raised in front of him, but no sound of an explosion. It was a very strange sound, as if the wind was blowing very hard in the trees, Kurt Larsson remembers 38 years later. But it  was too loud, and the trees weren't moving. Suddenly something hit the water with a splashing sound 150 meters in front of him, but he never had a chance to see what it looked like. When the military arrived two days later they made it clear that this was not a thing that Kurt should discuss in public. No further investigation was ever made of the lake. Five meters of mud prevented the divers from searching. (Clas Svahn and Anders Liljegren, "The Kölmjärv Ghost Rocket Crash Revisited," AFU Newsletter 27, pp. 4-5. Telephone interview, Oct. 7, 1984.; UFOCAT URN ­ 151514 AFU Sweden [Archives for UFO Research ­ Sweden & Scandinavia], # 027)

July 19, 1946; Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden
11:45 a.m. Two witnesses were hay-making by the leaning shores of Lake Kölmjärv. All of a sudden a humming sound was heard from the sky.  They spotted a rocket-like device diving towards the lake. They watched the two meters long, ashen-gray projectile falling into the water about 1.5 km away, near the south-western shore of the lake. A tall column of water emerged and was soon followed by yet another cascade.  That it was a solid object of that he was sure. The object was two meters long and had a snub nose, while the stern was pointed. He thought there were a few small wing-like protrusions on the side, but he wasn't sure. .[See more detailed report] (Carl Feindt)

July-August, 1946; Sweden
"Ghost rocket" sightings. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, X]

Aug. 1, 1946; near Tampa, FL
Puckett case, military incident.

Aug. 1946; N. of Chicago, Illinois
Daytime ? Charles A. Johnson working in motor pool awaiting discharge at Great Lakes Naval Training Center. After driving an officer to Chicago.was returning on Route 41 along Lake Shore when he saw 3 silver discs moving E to W.  Objects were in triangular formation. (Aldrich, Letter to CUFOS)     

Aug. 1, 1946; Florida
Observation of cigar-shaped UFO by Air Corps transport pilot. [NICAP UFO Evidence, 1964, Hall, III] 

Aug. 13, 1946; Denmark
Afternoon. A group of Danish boy scouts observed a rocket-like object rnoving at great velocity at the height of 500 meters. The scouts declared that the object had srnall side wings and fins. A blue-white light streamed from the bottorn. It was believed to be radio controlled since it suddenly curved from its original course by 35 degrees and shortly after that resumed its original course. (UFOs A History 1946, 43)

Aug. 14, 1946; Bt. Malingsbo and Krylbo, Sweden
10:02 a.m. Two witnesses flying a SAAB B-18 bomber on a navigational training flight at 200 meter altitude observed a cigar-shaped object described as 1 meter wide by 15 meters long. (Credit: John Schuessler; AFU Newsletter, Issue 44, Sept. 2002)

Aug. (late) 1946; Oklahoma City, OK
Disc-shaped craft with windows, humanoid figures visible inside, hovered at low altitude. After about 1-1/2 minutes the object rotated, then sped away disappearing in seconds.  (Ref. 3; Case summary by Ted Bloecher, 14 pages. Interviews by Bloecher, Lucius Farish, and Mildred Higgins.)

Sept. 1, 1946; Along coast of Ancona, Italy
Time ??. Some fishermen reported to have seen a fireworks phantom, a big and mysterious projectile that fell into the sea, throwing up a considerable cloud of vapor. The hypothesis given by newspapers of the period is that it had been a V-type German rocket launched from a base in Yugoslavian territory. (Carl Feindt, CISU Case: 143, Original Source: "Svenska Dagbladett" Stoccolma del 04/09/1946; "Giornale d'Italia" del 03/09/1946)

September 4, 1946; FBI Document

Sept. 22, 1946; Florence, Italy
3:15 a.m. One rocket seen flying over Florence, was distinctly discerned changing direction in the air. Object was visible for 90 seconds. The thing made. an abrupt turn in the sky over Florence and then sped south toward Rome. This rnaneuver convinced observers the object was not a meteor. 316. As a result of the forementioned sightings, the Italian government ordered an investigation. 317  (UFOs A History 1946, 69)

Oct 1946; Paterson, New Jersey
A horseback rider observed a silent, slow moving bluish white light.  The horse she was riding, normally calm and docile, became extremely nervous and reared. The witness wondered if the horse heard something that the witness's ears could not hear. The object was estimated to be at an altitude of 300-500 feet over a mountain about 5 miles away [The two locations mentioned are closer to 3 or 4 miles apart—jw]. The horse and rider were on an elevated area overlooking the city of Paterson.  (Woodward)

Dec. 30, 1946; Morro Bay, California
5:35 p.m. Miss ??? [Ella]Young and a friend were on high ground that curves southwards from Morro Bay. The sun had just gone down when, suddenly, a dark object appeared in the sky. It came forward and grew more distinct. On the golden sky it looked very black. It came forward head-on and had a bat-like appearance, owing to the curvature of its wings. She wasn't sure if there were motions at the extreme tip of the wings; but the strange machine seemed to stand still for several minutes, and its form was very distinct. Suddenly, it either lowered itself towards the horizon, or the bank of cloud-mist made an upward movement (maybe both movements occurred) for the machine passed behind the cloud and did not reappear. Immediately afterwards, a great flush of color spread over the sea." (Carl Feindt, UFOCAT PRN - 11431, Flying Saucers on the Attack by Harold T. Wilkins, p. 44, © 1954; Fran Ridge, Mike Tarbell.)


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1947


Jan. 16, 1947; North Sea, 50 miles from Holland (BBU)
10:30 p.m. (GMT). RAF pilot of Mosquito pursued unidentified radar target showing efficient controlled evasive action at 22,000 ft speed equal or greater than Mosquito, headed W? towards Norfolk, Eng. (FOIA) This was five months before the Kenneth Arnold sighting and the beginning of the Wave of 1947, followed by the crash at Roswell in early July. The incident was also linked to another "X raid" tracked by radar earlier that same day. An FBI document from July of 1947 quoted the Air Ministry case summary stating that: "no explanation has been forthcoming, nor has it been repeated." This information was not entirely accurate, because a very similar incident had occurred just 24 hours after the North Sea incident. As a direct result, Fighter Command immediately extended its night radar watch. (FOIA)

Jan. 17, 1947; North Sea
In the afternoon, two Chain Home Low stations in Lincolnshire (Skendleby and Humberstone) tracked what they described as "an exceptionally good track" (U294) at 10,000 feet above the North Sea. With Eastern Sector on alert, Meteor jets from 245 Squadron were placed on standby to scramble if Charlie came within range, but the plot faded from their screens. At 1945 hours the radar station at Humberstone, near Grimsby again tracked an unidentified target over the sea for a period of 30 minutes at a speed of more than 200 mph.

April 1947; Richmond, Virginia ((BBU)
11 a.m. (EST). Meteorologist Minczewski saw a silvery disc through a theodolite while tracking a pibal weather balloon, traveling E to W at less than 15,000 ft, appeared larger than the balloon. (McDonald 1968; FOIA; FUFOR Index)
May 17 [19?], 1947; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (BBU)
8:30-9 p.m. Field Engineer Savage saw a frosty white round and flat object, with diameter/thickness ratio 10:1, the size of a B-29 [?] (140 ft) traveling N at 350° heading at 10,000­18,000 ft and 3 times speed of a jet [1,800 mph] with a slight swishing sound. 30-mins. (FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Last week of May, 1947; Near Beaufort, South Carolina
11:00 a.m. Dr. Battey, a physician in Augusta, Georgia, had been fishing ten miles off St. Helena Sound, near Beaufort, South Carolina. At about eleven o'clock that morning he noticed a formation of four disc-like objects flying overhead in a southeasterly direction at a terrific rate of speed. The discs appeared to be spinning on their axes and were at an estimated altitude of about 20,000 feet. They were silvery and appeared highly polished, and on their under-sides, Dr. Battey could see a circular rim, or projection, about one-quarter of the way from the edges. No sound was heard as they flew overhead. The formation sped out of view in less than twenty seconds. Dr. Battey's report of the sighting did not appear in print until July 6th, when the Augusta Chronicle gave it prominent front-page coverage. INS sent it out on the wires, where it was picked up by numerous newspapers around the country. (Bloecher)

Bloecher:
There was approximately one sighting every other day for the first half of the June. These were scattered over the midwest and western United States. Then the sighting rate doubled to about 2 per day until June 20. I found 3 sightings for June 20, two for June 21, three on June 22, six on June 23..... and then the explosion:  I found 20 reports on June 24! 

NARA-PBB1-12 - June Sightings

June 2, 1947; Rehoboth Beach (near Lewes), Delaware (BBU)
Pilot Forrest Wenyon in aircraft flying N at 1,400 ft saw a silvery jar-shaped object 15 inches [?] in size cross in front of the plane at 1,000-10,000 mph heading E on a straight course at same altitude, with a silver-white fire exhaust. [Daytime meteor?] Sev secs. (Project 1947; McDonald list; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

June 12, 1947; Weiser, Idaho (BBU)
6:15 p.m. Mrs. H. Erickson saw 2 high speed round objects glistening in the sun at high altitude headed SE in trail formation moving up and down twice and leaving a vapor trail that persisted for over an hour. Sev secs. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

June 14 [23?], 1947; Bakersfield, Calif. (BBU)
2:15 p.m. Veteran pilot Richard Rankin and a young boy saw 10 "almost round" or Flying Flapjack-shaped objects in formation at 9,000 ft and 300-400 mph headed N on a straight level course, then 7 returned on reverse S course at 2:15 p.m. (McDonald list; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

June 19, 1947; Webster, Mass.
One of the earliest cases of humanoid reports appeared about two weeks later in, I believe, a Worchester paper -- possibly the Telegram. By an older, unidentified woman who saw an occupant inside an object who looked like "a Navy officer." (Bloecher)

June 20, 1947; Hot Springs, NM
8:00 PM MST. Woman and her daughter observed three revolving groups of three discs in triangular formation, straight course, S-NE (Bloecher,17,II-9)

June 21, 1947; Spokane, Washington (BBU)
11:50 [11:55 PST?] a.m. Civilian woman [Mrs. Guy R. ?] Overman saw 8 [shiny silvery and slim-­bodied?] disk-shaped objects the size of a house fly at 600 mph [or slower than a 2-engine army plane?] traveling SSW at 7,000 ft one object below an aircraft, then fall with a dead-leaf motion and land before 10 witnesses on the shore of the St. Joe River, Idaho. Sev mins. (Vallée Magonia 57; cf. FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

June 21, 1947; Maury Island, Washington
Cat 6. Maury Island Incident (hoax).

Fran Ridge:
Bloecher found 20 reports on June 24!  These were mostly in the far northwestern states of Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Sightings were scattered throughout the day from morning to night. After the 24th, the sighting rate stayed at about 10 per day or higher, with sightings occurring not just in the west but throughout the country.

June 23, 1947; Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Railroad engineer saw 10 shiny disc-shaped objects, very high, fluttering along in a string toward NW. [UFOE, XII]

Ridge:
To many, the events of 1947 seemed to have begun on June 24th, the date of the sighting made by Kenneth Arnold, while flying a plane over the Cascade Mountains of Washington. It was the report made by this Boise, Idaho pilot and businessman, who sold fire-fighting equipment throughout the northwest, that opened the first chapter in the modern record of UFO activity. But as you can tell, this wasn't the beginning.

June 24, 1947; Mt. Rainier, Washington
At 3:00 P.M., pilot Kenneth Arnold, was flying his airplane near Mt. Rainier and noticed some flashes of light. He then saw the source of the flashes; a string of nine very bright metallic objects.

Kenneth Arnold:
"I spent the next twenty to thirty seconds urgently searching the sky all around - to the sides and above and below me - in an attempt to determine where the flash of light had come from.  The only actual plane I saw was a DC-4 far to my left and rear, apparently on its San Francisco to Seattle run.  My momentary explanation to myself was that some lieutenant in a P-51 had given me a buzz job across my nose and that it was sun reflecting off his wings as he passed that had caused the flash.  Before I had time to collect my thoughts or to find a close aircraft, the flash happened again.  This time I caught the direction from which it had come.  I observed, far to my left and to the north, a formation of very bright objects coming from the vicinity of Mt. Baker, flying very close to the mountain tops and traveling at tremendous speed.... I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking aircraft flying from north to south at approximately 9,500 ft elevation and going, seemingly, in a definite direction of about 170 degrees."

June 24, 1947; Mt. Adams, Wash. (BBU 12)
Afternoon. Just about the time that Kenneth Arnold lost sight of his objects, Fred Johnson, listed as a prospector, reported watching five or six disc-shaped craft as they flew over the Cascade Mountains. He said they were round with a slight tail and about 30 feet in diameter. They were not flying in any sort of formation and as they banked in a turn, the sunlight flashed off them. As they approached, Johnson noticed that his compass began to spin wildly. When the objects finally vanished in the distance, the compass returned to normal.

June 24, 1947; Pendleton, Oregon
A humanoid report on the same day Arnold had his sighting (Bloecher).

June 28, 1947; Rockfield, Wisconsin (BBU)
3:43 [3:45 CST?] p.m. Marion Beuschler and her brother a farmer saw 7-10 saucer-shaped objects fly overhead heading S at high speed. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

June 28, 1947; 30 miles NW of Lake Mead, Nevada (BBU)
3:15 [1:15 PST?] p.m. AAF pilot Lt. E. B. Armstrong from Brook AAF, San Antonio, Texas, flying F-51 fighter at 6,000 ft saw a tight formation of 5-6 white circular 3 ft objects off his right wing heading 120° [about ESE] at 6,000 ft at 285 mph. (Ruppelt p. 19; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967).

June 28 [26?], 1947; Maxwell AFB, Montgomery, Alabama (BBU)
9:20-9:45 p.m. 4 AAF officers including 2 pilots and 2 intelligence officers, Capt. W. H. Kayko, Capt. J. H. Cantrell, Capt. Redman, 1st Lt. T. Dwwey, saw a bright light just above the SW horizon travel towards them in a zigzag with bursts of high speed, when directly overhead it made a sharp 90° turn and lost to view in the S [SW?]. 25-mins. (Ruppelt p.19; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

June 29, 1947; Des Moines, Iowa (BBU)
3:45 [4:45 CST?] p.m. Bus driver Dale Bays saw a single file line of 4 [18 ?] "dirty white" round objects between circular and oval in shape, inverted saucer shape about 175-250 ft diameter 12 ft thick, at about 1,200 ft height traveling about 300 mph to the SSE, sound of electric motor or dynamo. Another group of 13 objects seen heading SSE to NNW [later?]. Few mins. (Battelle/BBSR14 ?; Mary Castner/CUFOS; FUFOR Index; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

About June 29, 1947; Jacksonville, Oregon
About 1:00 p.m.. A V-formation of UFOs seen by a group of people on a Sunday either at the end of June or early in July. The date, believed to be June 29, had not been definitely established. A group of people west of Medford, just above the California border. The formation was traveling northwest toward Medford, east of the observers. There were nine objects. According to one witness, when first seen the objects were "as white as snow geese";  as they came closer they became blue-white, "like a fluorescent-bulb light." They were sharply outlined and seemed to be solid; "also translucent, like a light, pebbled, frosted bulb." The size of the individual objects was estimated as more than twice the diameter of the full moon -- presumably when the objects were nearest to the witnesses, although this is not stated definitely. (Reference 1, Section II, Page 3)

June 29, 1947; About 20 [15?] miles ENE of Las Cruces, New Mexico (BBU)
About 1:15 [1:20?] p.m. Rocket scientist-engineer Dr. Carl J. Zohn, Admin Asst., Rocket Sonde Section, USN Naval Research Lab (NRL) temporarily assigned to White Sands Proving Ground (WSPG), NRL scientist Curtis C. Rockwood and his wife, and WSPG technician John R. Kauke, were driving in a car from Las Cruces to WSPG headed NE when they saw to their right front [E] a rotating silvery or shiny disc or sphere with no appendages, wings, tail, propellers, reflecting sunlight [pulsating?], crossing the sky at high speed heading N at about 8,000-10,000 ft which suddenly disappeared in mid-air in a clear cloudless sky. Kauke had stopped the car and briefly saw a short vapor trail at one point not reported by the others. Zohn on the passenger side rolled the window for an unobstructed view. Nearly 60-secs. (FOIA; cf. Ruppelt, p. 20; FUFOR Index; Randle-Schmitt; Bloecher 1967; etc.)

June 30, 1947; Near S rim of Grand Canyon, Ariz. (BBU)
9:10 a.m. (MST?). Navy Lt. William G. McGinty flying P-80 from Williams AAF at 30,000 ft heading S saw 2 gray, circular objects about 8 or 10 ft diameter, diving at "unconceivable" speed from about 25,000 ft, which appeared to land 25 miles S of the Grand Canyon. (Vallée Magonia 59; cf. Project 1947; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Bloecher 1967)

Bloecher:
Few of the thirty-nine reports for this period received headline attention when they were printed, and by June 30th, newspaper coverage was not quite as widespread as it had been several days earlier.  But UFO sightings would very shortly pick again as the July 4th holiday approached.

In early July the sighting rate climbed beyond 20 per day to 88 sightings on July 4, 76 on July 5, 156 on July 6, 159 on July 7, and a whopping 189 on July 8.  After that it dropped quickly back to 20 per day and then only a few per day.


NARA-PBB1-13 - July Sightings


Early July, 1947; Nashville, Tennessee
Area of a sighting of a landed disc and two occupants. (Bloecher)
Early July, 1947; Near Malta, Mediterranean Sea
2:30 p.m. (EDT). Fishermen on a boat 20 miles south of Malta were raising their nets with a catch of fish when they saw an object floating on the water's surface that looked like a black submarine. The fishermen were frightened because they thought it looked more like a monster than a submarine, so they quickly pulled in their nets and started the boat's engine. At that moment a bright light from the "submarine" lit up the whole area and "little men" began running over the deck of the object. The fishermen couldn't make out much detail from their boat but whenever the light illuminated the "little men", they could see some sort of apparatus around their waist. Original reference: "UFOs fuq iI-Gzejjer Maltin" by David Pace

July 1, 1947, Chitose, Hokkaido, Japan
Time not given. A target was picked up 16 miles north of the base on a course of 180 degrees. The GCA unit immediately called the tower and asked if any aircraft were operating north of the field. At this instant of this radio transmission, the target reversed course to 360 degrees and was tracked out to a range of 28 miles. The target then changed course to 240 degrees arid was tracked out 6 miles where it again reversed course to 060 degrees and returned to the original point 28 miles north of the base. The target then changed course to 360 degrees and faded out of range. The nearest known operational U.S.S.R. air base to the north of Chitose AAB is Otomari on southern Ostrov Sakhalin at a range of 234 nautical miles from Chitose AAB. This base is classified as having temporary runways of 4500 - 6000 foot length. Base contains a large aviation gasoline tank farm with a pipe line to Korsakov Harbor which is capable of handling tankers. Headquarters of the U.S.S.R. Air Force on Karafuto is located in the Toyohara area about 24 miles to the north of Otomari. ((Item "a" from SECRET letter, Fran Ridge, Jan Aldrich)
July 1, 1947; White Sands 
This alleged incident is listed for-the-record only and has been declared a hoax. This is the "McKenzie"/Kaufmann hoax)
July 2, 1947. Roswell, New Mexico (BBU)
<>9:50 p.m. (MST). Pharmacist Dan Wilmot, wife, and son Paul, at home in downtown Roswell. Fireball came from SE directly or almost directly overhead, heading towards and disappearing over Sixmile Mtn at about azimuth 306° (about NW). (Sparks; Roswell Daily Record, July 8.1947)

July 3, Roswell, New Mexico
Cat 6 (physical evidence). The Roswell Crash.

July 3, 1947; South Brooksville-Harborside, Maine (BBU 27)
2:30 p.m. (EDT). Astronomer John F. Cole alerted by a roaring noise overhead saw about 10 very light colored 50-100 ft wide objects to the N at about 50° elevation in a formation initially about 1.5° wide, with 2 dark forms to their left or 2 objects had darker projections somewhat like wings, moving like a swarm of bees to the NW at about 600-1,200 mph through about 30° arc [at about 4-20 miles distance?]. 10-15 secs. (Berliner; McDonald 1968; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 3, Northern Idaho
This interesting report describes the landing, seen by a family of ten in Northern Idaho, of eight huge objects.  This report should have been among those in the Air Force files because it had been reported to intelligence officers from the Spokane Army Air Base, and an intensive air search was carried out by two missions of the National Guards 116th Fighter Group. Local sheriffs deputies also made a  ground search, but since no apparent trace of the objects was found, a report was probably never forwarded to Wright Field in Dayton. (Bloecher)

Bloecher:
According to these (AMC) spokesmen, the investigation at Wright Field was continuing, in spite of what spokesmen in Washington were telling the press. Within twenty four hours after the release of these official statements, events would begin to take place that would leave everybody, civilians and military personnel alike, in a state closely approximating Ruppelt's description of a flap. Reports of sightings, coming almost simultaneously from hundreds of bewildered citizens, were made to newspapers and police stations all over the country, and adjacent areas as well, from Southern California to New Brunswick, and from Louisiana to North Dakota. People everywhere were experiencing the beginning of one of the most massive waves of UFO sightings on record.  Reports came from all kinds of observers:  from picnickers and holiday crowds, from policemen and public officials, and from pilots, farmers, professional men, housewives and bus drivers.

July 4, 1947; Redmond (near) , OR (BBU)
11 a.m. C. J. Bogne of Tigard, Ore., and other witnesses in a car near Redmond saw 4 discs flying past Mt. Jefferson on a straight course at high speed. (McDonald list; FOIA; Ruppelt p. 20; Bloecher 1967)

July 4, 1947; Portland and Milwaukee, Oregon, and Vancouver, Wash. (BBU)
1:05 p.m. Radio newsman Frank Cooley of station KOIN, INS wire service employees in the Portland Oregon Journal Building, Clark County Sheriff's Deputy Fred Krives, Deputy Clarence McKay, Sgt. John Sullivan, Portland Police Officer Kenneth A. McDowell, Harbor Patrol Capt. K. A. Prahn, Harbor Patrolmen A. T. Austad and K. C. Hoff, Portland Police Officers Earl J. Patterson [Paterson?], Walter A. Lissy and Robert Ellis, Oregon Highway Patrol Sgt. Claude Cross, and many others over a wide area saw 5 large discs moving at high speed to the E, 2 flying S and 3 to the E, with oscillating or wobbling motion, sudden 90° turns or zigzagging, radio reports alerted other officers who saw the objects, aluminum or chromium color, disc or hubcap or pie-pan or half-moon shape flashing in the sun, no vapor trail, no noise (except possible humming), some at 10,000-­40,000 ft others at about 1,000 ft. McDowell noticed pigeons reacted. Sullivan, McKay and Krives noted low humming sound and reported 20-30 objects. Cooley reported 12 discs at about 20,000 ft. [Further sightings at 2, 4:30, 5 p.m.] Patterson, Lissy and Ellis were pilots. 30-90 secs. (Hynek UFO Rpt pp. 100­2; McDonald 1968; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 4, 1947; Seattle, Washington
Photo by Frank Ryman. Coast Guard yeoman took first known photograph of UFO, a circular object which moved across the wind. Photo shows round dot of light. [UFOE, VII, XII]

July 4, 1947; Portland, Oregon (BBU)
2 p.m. E. A. Evans saw 3 metallic discs glinting sunlight, 1 moving W to E, followed by 2 others heading N. [Other sightings at 1:05, 4:30, 5 p.m.] (Hynek UFO Rpt pp. 100-2; McDonald 1968; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 4, 1947; Portland, Oregon (BBU)
4:30 p.m. Mrs. L. J. Hayward saw a silvery disc-shaped object looking like a new dime flipping in an erratic path moving slowly. [Other sightings at 1:05, 2, 5 p.m.] (Hynek UFO Rpt pp. 100-2; McDonald 1968; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 4, 1947; Portland and Milwaukee, Oregon, and Vancouver, Wash (BBU).
5 p.m. [Other sightings at 1:05, 2, 4:30 p.m.] (Hynek UFO Rpt pp. 100-2; McDonald 1968; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 4, 1947; Near Emmett, Idaho (BBU 34)
9:12 [8:17? 8:12?] p.m. (MST). United Air Lines Flight 105 Capt. Emil J. Smith, First Officer Ralph Stevens, Stewardess Marty Morrow who was called in by Smith as a confirming witness, flying NW on heading 300° from Boise to Seattle at about 7,000 ft, saw 5 disc-shaped objects with flat bottoms and rough tops (possibly 100+ ft size) move at varying speeds, in loose formation [or evenly spaced?] roughly 1,000 ft higher in altitude about 10° left of their heading [or at 290°], with one high and to the right of the others in the distance, all disappearing to the W [NW?] in a gradual climb at about 9:20 p.m. as 5 [4?] additional similar objects came into view slightly higher heading W [or took off to the NW; 3 objects in a line with 1 off to the side]. Smith tried to close on the objects at 185 mph as he climbed from 7,000 to 8,000 ft but could not. 12-15-mins. (Berliner; cf. McDonald 1968; Bloecher 1967; FBI..)

July 5,1947; Albuquerque, NM
9:00 AM. Five discs flew toward the east over the city; one circled back over the city. In the afternoon five witnesses saw a sphere maneuver in-and-out of clouds. (Source: Jan Aldrich, Project 1947: A Preliminary Report on the 1947 UFO Sighting Wave; Albuquerque Journal, July 6, 1947).

July 6, 1947; S. Central Wyoming
Aviation engineer saw oval UFO. [UFOE, VI]

July 6, 1947; Fairfield-Suisan AFB, California (BBU 36)
Daytime. AAF Capt. and Mrs. James H. Burniston saw a highly reflective round flat object having no wings or tail, the size of a C-54 transport (118 ft) roll from side-to-side 3 times then fly away very fast from NW to the SE [SW?] at 10,000 ft. (Berliner; Bloecher 1967)

July 6, 1947; Clay Center, Kansas (BBU)
1:45 p.m. AAF pilot Major A. B. Browning and crew flying B-25 E to Kansas City saw a silvery circular object 30-50 ft diameter pacing the aircraft at a little lower altitude then shot off at high speed heading E at 11,000 ft at 210 mph.  (Project 1947; FOIA; Bloecher 1967)

July 7, 1947; 7 miles N of Shreveport, Louisiana (BBU)
Morning. Military aircraft pilot Harston saw a bright silver object about the angular size of the moon.
(Project 1947; McDonald list)

July 7, 1947; Hickam Field, Hawaii (BBU)
9 a.m. Civil Service employee Saito saw a large silver balloon-like object with silvery disc [attached?] immediately beneath it without attaching cables slowly ascending to the NW at 6,000 ft. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

July 7, 1947; Muroc Army Air Field, Calif. (BBU)
10:10 a.m. AAF experimental test pilot Major Jowell C. Wise while powering up an XP-84 jet on the runway looked up where others were looking and saw to the N a yellowish-white sphere about 5­ 10 ft diameter oscillating in a "forward whirling" motion without losing altitude at about 10,000­12,000 ft altitude moving W to E at about 200-225 mph. [Sightings at Muroc next day.] (FOIA)

July 7, 1947; Willow Springs, Illinois
A very notable incident occurred around noon, when Robert Meegan and his 14 year old son John heard a buzzing noise overhead. They were working in the fields on their farm near the Des Plains River not far from the Argonne National Laboratories. Looking up they saw "13 round objects all going east, single file in a straight line." They described the objects as round with flat bottoms estimated about as big as a house and bluish-grey in color. They stated that the craft flew on a straight and level course toward the east. (Ref 2 page 73)

July 7, 1947; Lakeland, Florida (BBU)
Bet. [?] 1-2 p.m. (EST). Sign painter saw 5 round shiny objects in the NE climbing at 7,500 ft; shrill noise heard. (Battelle/BBSR14 ?; Mary Castner/CUFOS)

July 7, 1947; Arlington, Virginia (BBU)
Bet. 10:30 and 11 p.m. (EDT). AAF Lt. Col. Cobb saw a "blob," the size of a small airplane, reflecting white light flying at less than 500 ft above ground to the SE at about 1,350 mph. (FOIA; FUFOR Index)

July 7, 1947; Phoenix, Arizona
Sighting and photograph of a gray, elliptical object about 20-30 feet in diameter with a visible canopy; object moving at an estimated 400-600 m.p.h., spiraled down from about 2,000 feet, then went upward at a 45 degree angle, making no sound while within view. Analysis based on camera data indicated a diagonal size of about 40-50 feet. (Project SIGN "Initial Report," chart, Incident No. 40)

July 7, 1947; Tacoma, Washington
Bloecher's case 547, from his book, is a humanoid report.

July 7. 1947. Lakeland. Florida (BBU)
Bet. [?] 1-2 p.m. (EST). Sign painter Griffin saw 5 round shiny objects in the NE climbing at 7.500 ft; shrill noise heard. (Sparks; Battelle/BBSR14 ?: Mary Castner/CUFOS; Saunders/FUFOR Index)

July 8, 1947698, outside of Houston, Texas
Case 698, from Bloechers' book, is another humanoid report.

July 8, 1947; Los Angeles (near), California
Cat 11, F-51 pilot (M)

Fran Ridge:
According to Captain Edward Ruppelt, the top secret "Estimate of the Situation", which was... that the UFOs were interplanetary, listed the following case as one which suggested that conclusion.

July 8, 1947; Muroc Army Air Field, Calif. (BBU)
9:45 a.m. (PDT). AAF 1st Lt. Joseph C. McHenry, T/Sgt Joseph Ruvolo, S/Sgt Gerald E. Nauman, and Miss Jannette Marie Scotte at 10:00 a.m., saw two saucer or disc shaped objects, silver and apparently metallic, fly a wide circular pattern [?] at about 7500-8000 ft at 350-400 mph heading 320° (about NW) toward Mojave, Calif. Before the first 2 objects disappeared a 3rd similar disc or spherical silver object reflecting sunlight was seen, with additional 5 witnesses, to the N flying tight circles at about 7,000-8,000 ft beyond capability of known aircraft, maintaining altitude. No sound or trails. 3-4 mins. [See sightings at Muroc later in the day and previous day.]

July 8, 1947; Muroc Army Air Field, Calif. (BBU)
11:50 a.m.-12 noon. AAF experimental test pilot Capt. John Paul Strapp, Mr. Lenz from Wright Field and 2 others in an observation truck at Area 3 of Rogers Dry Lake for a P-82 ejection seat test saw a round silver or aluminum-white object at first thought to be a parachute, about 25 ft wide, falling from a height below the 20,000 ft of the test aircraft at 3x the rate for an ejection seat test, drifting horizontally toward Mt. Wilson (to the S) at less than 50-80 mph, which when close to horizon appeared to have an oval outline with 2 thick fins or knobs on the upper surface which seemed to rotate or oscillate, no propellers, slowly disappearing below the mountain tops in the distance after 90 secs.

July 8, 1947, Muroc Army Air Field, Calif. (BBU)
Noon. Others witnesses independently, including Muroc CO Col. Signa A. Gilkey and engineer Major Richard R. Shoop and wife saw from a different location 5-8 miles away to the N [?] the apparently same falling object, thin metallic aluminum colored and the size of a pursuit aircraft [50 ft?], reflecting sunlight and oscillating, descend to ground level, then rise again and move slowly off in the distance for a total of 8 mins. No sound or trail. [See sightings at Muroc earlier and later in the day and previous day.] 8-mins. (FOIA; Vallée Magonia 60)

July 8, 1947; 40 miles S of Muroc Army Air Field (BBU)
4 p.m. Exactly four hours later the pilot of an F-51 was flying at 20,000 feet about 40 miles south of Muroc Air Base when he sighted a "flat object of a light reflecting nature." He reported that it had no vertical fin or wings. When he first saw it, the object was above him and he tried to climb up to it, but his F-51 would not climb high enough. All air bases in the area were contacted but they had no aircraft in the area. [See previous Muroc sightings.] (Exact and complete quote from Ruppelt p. 22)

July 9, 1947; Bet. Meridian and Boise, Idaho (BBU)
12:17 p.m. (PDT). Idaho Statesman aviation editor and former (AAF) B-29 pilot Dave Johnson flying in an Idaho Air National Guard AT-6 saw a black disc, standing out against the clouds, make a half-roll then a stair-step climb. Object the size of a 25-cent coin [at arm's length?]. (Berliner, Sparks, Wilson)

July 10, 1947; Harmon Field, Newfoundland, Canada (BBU)
Bet. 3 and 5 p.m. [or 5:30 p.m. (ADT)]. Cat. 8. Three ground crewmen, A. R. Leidy, J. N. Mehrman, and J. E. Woodruff, of Pan American Airways, briefly saw a translucent disc or silvery wheel-shaped object the size of a C-54 transport fly very fast at 10,000 ft, leaving a dark bluish-black trail, then ascend and cut a path through the clouds. Photo. (Berliner; FOIA)

July 10, 1947; Near Ft. Sumner, New Mexico (BBU)
4:47 p.m. Dr. Lincoln LaPaz with wife and 2 teenage daughters were driving W on Hwy 60 when they saw a sharply outlined, white ellipsoidal seemingly luminous 200 ft object (±40 ft, major/minor axis ratio 2.45) wobbling in the distance to the W [probably 272° azimuth initially] about 25 miles away (±5 miles; distance from triangulation of the cloud bank by driving around it by about 90° over 50 miles along Hwy 84 and weather data). Object about 30 secs almost motionless at a low speed of about 150 mph (±30 mph) then disappeared behind a cloud at 273° azimuth elevation 1° but reappeared 5 secs later further to the right, or N, and higher at 275° azimuth 2° elevation, about 1 mile distance traveled thus an average speed of roughly 600-900 mph [peak velocity about 1,400 mph at about 13 gs], but no sound, no trail. Object continued to slowly drift N about 2 mins [in level flight] until disappearing in the cloud bank [at about 287° azimuth]. 2.5 mins. (LIFE Incident 2; Hynek astronomer survey Aug. 1952; etc.)

July 10,  1947; Morristown, New Jersey
Cat 8. Six daylight discs observed from aircraft.

July 11, 1947; Elmendorf Air Base, Anchorage, Alaska (BBU)
AAF Colonel Perry (?) plus another witness Guyer, saw a round 3 ft aluminum object travel at great speed to the S. At 6:30 p.m. (AHST) [July 12?] AAF Major Graham saw a balloon-like grayish 10 ft object headed NW at 100 mph at 1,500 ft. [Same incident?] (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

July 28, 1947; Bt. Mountain Home & Boise, Idaho
8:34 p.m. Crew of a Seattle-bound United Airlines Mainliner DC-3 reported disc-like object in the sky at estimated 9,010 feet as twin-engine liner was flying at 7,500 feet. CAA said no other planes in the area where pilot Givian said he saw the disc. (Newsclipping, Dan Wilson)

July 29, 1947; Canyon Ferry, Montana (Helena?) (BBU)
12:05 p.m. Observer Madden saw hovering and fluttering, rising and descending 3 ft gleaming and shimmering object heading NE at 3,000 ft height at tremendous speed. (McDonald list; FUFOR Index)

July 29, 1947; Hamilton Field, Calif. (BBU 69)
2:50 p.m. (PDT?). Assistant Base Operations Officer Capt. William H. Ryherd and ex-Air B-29 pilot 1st Lt. Ward Stewart saw for unknown length of time two round, shiny, white objects with estimated 15-25 foot diameters, fly 3-4 times the apparent speed of a P-80, also in sight, (or at 750 mph), at 6,000-10,000 ft heading S or SE at 120°. One object flew straight and level; the other weaved from side-to-side like an escort fighter. (Berliner; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Bloecher:
By the end of July the sighting rate was about one per day and by August it was down to several per week. (Newspapers reported a few sightings in other countries as well.)

Capt. Edward J Ruppelt:
"By the end of July (1947) The UFO security lid was down tight. The few members of the press who did inquire about what the Air Force was doing got the same treatment that you would get today if you inquired about the number of thermonuclear weapons stock-piled in the U.S. atomic arsenal. . . (At ATIC there was) confusion almost to the point of panic." (Report on Unidentified Flying Objects, p.39)

Michael Swords:
As July wore on into August, (Lt. Col. George D.) Garrett, (General) Schulgen, and (FBI's liaison officer to the AAF/AF) S. Wesley Reynolds became confused by a lack of interest and pressure emanating from the high echelons of the Pentagon. The previous year they had gone through an investigative furor about a subject that they considered to be similar to the flying discs, when hundreds of ghost rocket reports came out of Sweden and other European countries. In 1946, the top brass had exerted continuous pressure to find an answer, but now it had gone completely quiet. This puzzling void has been termed the silence from topside. It was very peculiar to Garrett and the FBI. Their mutual suspicion was that the very highest officials knew what this phenomenon was already (Swords, 1991).

July 30, 1947, "FLYING DISCS"

The following pages are a portion of Colonel Garrett's Estimate Report. This is a rough draft of the report. The finalized version has not been located. Page 8 mentions "lack of topside inquiries, when compared to the prompt and demanding inquiries that have originated topside upon former events, give more than ordinary weight to the possibility that this is a domestic project, about which the President, etc. know." Page three text is known but the actual doc page is still being sought.

(continued)


NARA-PBB1-14 - Aug to Dec

August, 1947; Media,  PA
Cat 11,  Boyce Case, (M)

Sometime in August, 1947; Danforth, IL
Labeled a hoax by Col. McCoy, this object found on Illinois farm was neither a crashed disc nor a portion of a Mogul balloon.

Aug. 4,  1947; NW of Bethel, Alaska (BBU)
Sunset. Pilot Capt. Jack Peck and copilot Vince Daly flying a DC-3 saw a smooth surfaced black object larger than a DC-3 with no visible means of propulsion cross their flight path at 500-1,000 ft height. They averted collision, then turned in pursuit at 170 mph but the object flew out of sight [to the NW at about 500 mph]. [Additional witness Johnston??] (FOIA; Project 1947; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 4,  Everett 1947; (or 10 miles NW of Boston), Mass. (BBU)
4 p.m. Pan Am airliner pilot Powell and navigator White saw a bright orange or deep-gold colored cigarette-shaped (or elliptical) object 15 ft long 2-3 ft wide flying at 150 (or 175) mph at 7,000 ft to the E at about 110° magnetic. (Project 1947; McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 13, 1947; 40 miles SW of Twin Falls [at Salman Dam]. Idaho (BBU)
9:30 a.m. County Commissioner L. W. Hawkins and Mr. Brown while fishing saw 2 disc-shaped objects 6 ft diameter reflecting light and making the echo of a motor, at 4,000-6,000 ft flying at high speed. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 13, 1947; Snake River (9 miles NW of Twin Falls), Idaho (BBU)
1:00  p.m. Snake River 6 miles W of Blue Lake Ranch, 9 miles NW of Twin Falls, Idaho.  A. C. Urie on land and 2 sons Billy and Keith 300 ft away in a boat, all on the S side of the river or river bank looking to the N, saw a squeezed or elongated straw-hat shaped sky-blue object about 10 x 10 x 20 feet, with pods on the side emitting flames, about 1/2 mile away fly towards them down the canyon at 1,000 mph E-W at 75 ft height, with a contour following motion up and down over uneven terrain, trees swaying underneath with a circular motion, disappearing with a swish sound. Urie was about 300 ft from the object which was about level with him about 75 ft above the river, and silhouetted against the canyon wall 1,200 ft away, disappearing behind a hill about 1 mile away. Object was at about 45° elevation to the boys on the river below him, disappearing behind trees. 5-secs? (Battelle Unknown No. 9)

Aug. 14, 1947; Harmon Field, Newfoundland, Canada (BBU)
10:40 a.m. 3 AAF airmen with the 147th AACS Sq. saw 2 small crescent-shaped objects pass over them on a zigzag path at 2x jet speed [1,200 mph?] heading W at about 1,200 ft disappearing into clouds, a few secs later a same or similar object emerged from the clouds and continued to the W. (FOIA)

Aug. 14, 1947; 5 miles S of Placerville, Calif. (BBU)
4 p.m. Insurance adjuster Switzer saw a metallic highly-polished chromium surface object 4-6 ft wide 10-14 inches thick, rounded slightly on top larger in the front, leaving a white trail, at 500-1,000 ft height traveling at high speed. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 15-20 (approx.), 1947; Rapid City Air Base [Weaver?], South Dakota (BBU)
Major Hammer sitting in the parking lot near the flight line shortly after dark saw to the NW about 12 elliptical objects about the span of a B-29 (140 ft) with a yellow-white luminous glow in a tight diamond formation, approaching in a shallow descent, level off at about 5,000 ft altitude [height?] at 300-400 mph, make a gentle 110° turn to its right about 4 miles away climbing to the SW, accelerating rapidly. No sound or trail. 1 min? (FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 18, 1947; Near Mountain Home, Idaho (BBU)
12 p.m. United Airlines Flight 147 pilot and copilot saw 2 "skeet target" shaped objects flying under the plane. (Project 1947)

FBI Memo
August 19, 1947:  FBI memo to D.W. Ladd from E.G. Fitch mentioning SAC Reynolds conversation with Lt. Col. George Garrett, re: "there were objects seen which somebody in the Government knows all about."

Aug. 19, 1947; Twin Falls, Idaho (BBU)
9:30 p.m. Housing Authority Executive Director Hedstrom saw 55 [?] [luminous?] objects in horizontal flight looking like electric lights headed NE at tremendous speed. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Aug. 28, 1947; Fukuoka, Japan
Time not given. MEW Radar Station. A target was picked up in orbit at a range of 26-30 nautical miles on a bearing of.20 to 30 degrees. Target then took a heading of 023 degrees and vvas tracked to a range of 54 nautical miles where it faded.The target was in a climb on this outbound course and the weather at the time was such that the climb would have to be made on instruments. Speed:  390-415 knots; altitude: 1500 feet. (Item "b" from SECRET letter, Fran Ridge, Jan Aldrich)

Late Aug. 1947?; Alamogordo [Holloman] Army Air Field, New Mexico.
AMC Watson Labs Project MOGUL engineer Rosmovski and communications officer Lt. H. G. Markley tracked a stationary target at 200 miles altitude using a modified CPS-4 radar aimed at 70° elevation. (FOIA; Loren Gross Aug-­Dec 1947 SUPP p. 28)

Late Aug. 1947; Alamogordo [Holloman] Army Air Field, New Mexico (BBU 83)
AMC Watson Labs Project MOGUL communications officer Lt. H. G. Markley while watching 2 balloons with radar reflector to the SE in 10x binoculars saw traveling at "unprecedented rate of speed" a round white object in horizontal light S to N several thousand feet over the tops of Sacramento Mtns. [Case falsely explained by AF as false radar targets when no radar observation was involved.] (FOIA; Mary Castner/CUFOS; Loren Gross Aug-Dec 1947 SUPP p. 28; July-Dec 1949 orig

August (late), 1947; Vaughn (near), New Mexico
Approx 8:00 pm. Basketball-Sized object explodes near colonel.

Sept. 3, 1947; Lake Oswego, Oregon. (BBU 85)
12:15 p.m. (PDT). Housewife Mrs. Raymond Dupui saw 12-15 round, silver objects fly an unstated pattern for unknown length of time. (Berliner; FOIA)

Sept. 8, 1947; Logan [Salt Lake City?], Utah (BBU)
10:30 or 11 p.m Anderson and Hall saw 5 groups of a total of 12 [?] white or yellowish objects traveling at high speed to the N at 2,000­3,000 ft height, faster than birds, size of pigeons [?] (Battelle/BBSR14 ?; Mary Castner/CUFOS; FUFOR Index)

Sept. 13, [11? 12?], 1947; Midway Island to Oahu, Hawaii, past Necker Island (BBU)
6:58 p.m. Pan Am airliner crew [military air flight?] saw a bright light with no blue or red tinge split in 2 move towards the plane then disappear [first heading 350° then 109° at 9,500­10,000 ft traveling at 1,000 knots or about 1,200 mph]. [Possible meteor?] (McDonald list; Project 1947; FOIA; FUFOR Index; Mary Castner/CUFOS)

Sept. 16, 1947; Fukuoka, Japan
Time not given. MEW radar station. A target was picked up at a range of 89 miles on a bearing of 040 degrees (Point C). Target was tracked on an incoming course to a range of 19 miles and a bearing of 045 degrees at which point it faded out. The nearest known operational U.S.S.R.  air bases are on the east coast of Korea at 39° 10' North Latitude and 127 degrees 29' East Longitude and Haeju on west coast of Korea at 38° 02' North Latitude and 125 degrees East Longtude. The range to these  oases from Fukuoka is 360 nautical miles. Genzan is classified as having permanent runways of 4500-6000 foot length, and was highly operational by the Japanese.  Haeju has one runway of approximtely 4000 foot length, probably surfaced. It is therefore reasonable, to assume that the U.S.S.R. is utilizing the facilities at these bases to the utmost,  since the location is strategically between Vladivostok to the north and the U.S. occupied areas of Korea to the south.  A recent report from the U.S. XXIV Corps, evaluated F-3, states "a new type aircraft on Haeju airstrip North Korea. "'This aircraft emitted black smoke on take-off, but was not identified as  jet propelled." Speed:  840 - 900 mph (730-780 knots); altitude: 10,000 - 20,000 feet. (Item "c." from SECRET AAF letter, Fran Ridge, Jan Aldrich.

Sept. 17, 1947; Ft. Richardson, Alaska (BBU)
[Army officer saw a 2-3 ft silver sphere traveling S at tremendous speed below the 10,000 ft cloud cover.] (McDonald list; Mary Castner/CUFOS)

On September 23, 1947, the chief of the Air Technical Intelligence Center, one of the Air Force's most highly specialized intelligence units, sent a letter to the Commanding General of the then Army Air Forces. The letter was in answer to the Commanding General's verbal request to make a preliminary study of the reports of unidentified flying objects. The letter said that after a preliminary study of UFO reports, ATIC concluded that, to quote from the letter, "the reported phenomena were real." The letter strongly urged that a permanent project be established at ATIC to investigate and analyze future UFO reports. It requested a priority for the project, a registered code name, and an over-all security classification. ATIC's request was granted and Project Sign, the forerunner of Project Grudge and Project Blue Book, was launched. It was given a 2A priority, A being the highest priority an Air Force project could have. (Ruppelt)

AMC letter to Commanding General - See Exhibit #3

Sept. 26, 1947 SECRET memo for Asst Chief of Staff
An interesting 3-page SECRET letter from HQ AAF 26 Sept 1947 regarding three radar incidents lsted on this chrono..


Oct., 1947; Dodgeville, Wisc. (BBU 91)
11 [a.m.?]. Unnamed civilian man saw an undescribed object fly counterclockwise circles. 1-hr. (Berliner)

Oct. 8/9, 1947; Las Vegas, Nevada (BBU)
[AAF reserve Capt. Moore saw an object traveling at 700 mph leave an almost white smoke/vapor trail and change direction from SE to W.] (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Oct. 12, 1947. Guadalupe, Mexico (BBU)
9:30 a.m. (CST). Numerous witnesses saw a cigar-shaped, blue and silver color fireball trailing blue flame heading E to W plunge to earth resembling an errant V-2 rocket and appearing to head for impact in the Zamalayuca Mtns. with a billow of smoke and loud explosion. Mexican Army reserve Capt. Aranda saw the fireball from the Hernandez Torres filling station near Caseta and saw it disappear over the sandhills near Colonia Reforma. No meteorites or other remains found in searches. (Sparks; Loren Gross, Jul-Dec 1947 p. 38; 1947 pp. 69-71; SUPP Aug-Dec 1947 pp. 44-45; Mary Castner/CUFOS; Saunders/FUFOR index)

Oct. 14 [12?], 1947; 11 miles NNE of Cave Creek, Ariz. (BBU 95)
12 noon (MDT). Ex-AAF fighter pilot J. L. Clark, civilian pilot Anderson, third man saw 3-foot "flying wing," black against the white clouds and red against the blue sky, flying straight at an estimated 380 m.p.h., at 8,000-10,000 ft, from NW to SE. 45-60 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 20, 1947; Xenia, Ohio (BBU)
11 a.m. Atkinson saw a round 1 ft object at 1,500 ft heading SW on a straight course. (McDonald list; FOIA; Mary Castner/CUFOS)

Oct. 20, 1947; Dayton, Ohio (BBU)
1:20 p.m. Farmer Britton saw 2 cigar-shaped objects reflecting brilliant sunlight traveling W to E on a straight course at high speed about 1 mile height in trail formation about a city block apart emitting a slight vapor trail, disappearing suddenly. (McDonald list; FOIA; Mary Castner/CUFOS)

28 Oct 1947 Intelligence Requirements on Flying Saucer Type Aircraft, SECRET Schulgen Memo

Nov. 2, 1947; Anderson Rd., Houston, Texas (BBU)
Daybreak. Immigration Service [agent?] Brimberry saw an almost round or oval or saucer-shaped object with bright light [?] about 100 ft [?] diameter spinning in its descent. (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Nov. 12, 1947; 40 miles N [S?] of Cape Blanco, Oregon, 20 miles off coast (BBU)
Early morning. USS Ticonderoga USN 2nd Officer Williamson saw 2 balls of fire with a fiery trail headed NW at 700-900 mph. [Probable meteors.] (McDonald list; FOIA; FUFOR Index)

Nov. 15, 1947; Wichita, Kansas (BBU 2224)
7:02 a.m. USAF Maj. R. L. Wallander, Capt. Belleman, A/3c Phipps saw an orange object (a blue streak?) varied in shape, as it made jerky upward sweeps with 10-15 sec pauses. 3-5 mins. (Berliner)

Nov. 15, 1947; Wichita, Texas (BBU)
8:25 p.m. USAF B­47 crew and passengers saw an elliptical blue-white object with orange or red tail, moving erratically. (BB Status Rpt?) [Same case as above??]

December 8, 1947; Las Vegas, Nevada
Moving reddish UFO emitted flash of light, shot upwards out of sight. [XII]   

Dec. 30, 1947; 1 mile W of Pilot Hill, Calif. (BBU)
7:25 p.m. (PST). Crew of McClellan Field C-47 saw a high speed low altitude object trailing red, green and other colored flames headed E over hills. At 7:58 the crew found a growing ground fire about 7 miles E of Pilot Hill, at 38°50' N, 120°53' W, another C-47 crew sent to investigate found a triangular fire area with 2 points emitting bright blue-green flames, going out at 9:55 p.m. (FOIA)

Dec. 30, 1947; Sawtooth Nat. Forest, Idaho (BBU)
7:26 p.m. (PST). Pilot AAF Lt. Col. W. W. Jones, Hq EPW [Enemy Prisoners of War?], and copilot Major A. A. Andrae, flying a C-54 from Great Falls to Fairfield-Suisun Field at 13,000 ft saw a high speed object trailing green and blue flames descending vertically at their 2:30 o'clock position, but slowing just above the ground. 2-secs. (FOIA)

http://www.nicap.org/waves/1947fullrep.html (http://www.nicap.org/waves/1947fullrep.html)

I must say that NICAP's database on 1947 is missing a lot of sightings.

I have combined the database of Ted Bloecher, Jan Aldrich, Alfred Loedding, Larry hatch, NICAP, Project Bluebook and FOIA files.

Many of the sightings are duplicates of course, but quite a lot of them are unique to each database.

The end result is the true amount of sightings in 1947 is closer to over twice the amount you see listed above, more likely 3 times.


(I have edited the OP to include the Hatch database map for comparison to the Manhattan project map.)

Thanks for your comments A51. I wanted to know your general opinion based upon your research.

With some recent discussions indicating that there were several Saucer  sightings that were being suggested as being possible "Nazi" UFO crafts. but I would have to try to recheck if many of these were prior the start of WWII or mainly during and after.
Also if they were mainly observed in Europe before WWII or also the USA / Worldwide !

Were some of the UFO sightings in the USA prior to Roswell possible Nazi craft or mainly appeared as unlikely manmade.

(If some may have been Nazi craft , I wonder what % both over the USA , Worldwide and Europe)

I wonder if those who tried to research the Nazi craft can recall or offer any estimates.

I am just trying to determine if more of the overall sightings prior WWII appear non Man made.


A51 Watcher

QuoteBut back to your original question - sighting reports before WWII appear to be more occasional and once in a blue moon.

But after WWII is when unprecedented flaps began to appear during various years. Early years appear to be focused on monitoring nuclear production facilities,experimental missile facilities and in later years even on nuclear missile bases, going the extra step to interfere with the facilities by shutting down the missile launch mechanisms and electronics.

So... in past history perhaps the sightings were routine checkup visits, but WWII may have alerted them it was time to step in and pay closer attention to the level of destructive technology being achieved.

Quote from: astr0144 on August 11, 2015, 04:49:18 AM
Thanks for your comments A51. I wanted to know your general opinion based upon your research.

With some recent discussions indicating that there were several Saucer  sightings that were being suggested as being possible "Nazi" UFO crafts. but I would have to try to recheck if many of these were prior the start of WWII or mainly during and after.
Also if they were mainly observed in Europe before WWII or also the USA / Worldwide !

Were some of the UFO sightings in the USA prior to Roswell possible Nazi craft or mainly appeared as unlikely manmade.

Unlikely manmade. 70 years now past these events and still no sign of any manmade technology rivaling these craft.

Quote
I am just trying to determine if more of the overall sightings prior WWII appear non Man made.

If any craft prior to WWII were manmade, they would have won the war (in a hurry).

To be more specific as Pim always advises, any nation possessing these craft have 2 second strike capability.

1 second to arrive at target anywhere in the world.

Second #2 for opening the hatch and dropping the payload.

Second #3 is for returning to base.


At most, any radar operator might have time to notice a streak across his radar screen and say "Excuse me Sir.."

Again that is good to note your suggestions in terms of having more belief that they appear to be probable ET Craft.

QuoteUnlikely manmade. 70 years now past these events and still no sign of any manmade technology rivaling these craft.

Quote
I am just trying to determine if more of the overall sightings prior WWII appear non Man made.

If any craft prior to WWII were manmade, they would have won the war.

With Pim seeming an unbeliever that the Craft sightings were ET...and others who have questioned such things.. for some time it seemed some faith was questioned as to were the Saucer sightings manmade or ET and It questioned some of the members initial  beliefs..

Will your comments convince him/them ?.

If there are many egs of Crafts involved in such high speed operations...then is there much evidence of them being recorded ...and would they be acknowledged.

That is incredible speed at which they would operate..
and it may seem that distances on Earth can be covered within such short time. as if they can link Time and Space to sort of correspond with each other.

But doing whats required in any further operations other than travelling to the locations.. thats another issue to try to comprehend..ie that they can do tasks incredible fast..

I have suspected that such crafts can remain hidden and travel at such speeds...and remain undetected as I would think there could be certain Alien races with technology beyond our imagination.

But it would certainly be  a big WOW ! if this can be certified and proven.. :o

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 11, 2015, 05:15:52 AM
To be more specific as Pim always advises, any nation possessing these craft have 2 second strike capability.

1 second to arrive at target anywhere in the world.

Second #2 for opening the hatch and dropping the payload.

Second #3 is for returning to base.


At most, any radar operator might have time to notice a streak across his radar screen and say "Excuse me Sir.."

Yes they were clocked on several occasions by computing distance traveled between landmarks and corresponding time.

They were even clocked by theodolites at several thousand mph, which normally records missile test flights.

The cases and speeds are listed in the thread 'The Day before Roswell'.


http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=329.msg105731#msg105731 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=329.msg105731#msg105731)

Also -

from Major Donald Keyhoe:

July 8 at Muroc Air Force Base, where TS planes and devices are tested, six fast moving silvery-white saucers were seen by pilots and ground officers.

Both a Navy rocket expert (Dr. Robert B. McLaughlin) and an engineer (Charles B. Moore) who were there, each independently reported the same incident at White Sands where they had seen four saucers in that area.

The first saucer was tracked by White Sands observers with a theodolite. Then they worked out it's performance with ballistics
formulas as being fifty miles up and making over fifteen thousand mph.

QuoteWith Pim seeming an unbeliever that the Craft sightings were ET...and others who have questioned such things.. for some time it seemed some faith was questioned as to were the Saucer sightings manmade or ET and It questioned some of the members initial  beliefs..

Will your comments convince him/them ?.

Pim is a very intelligent and honest researcher and will go wherever the evidence leads. If evidence to the contrary of his theories appear he will undoubtedly adjust course. He and I have both done so more than once over the last several years of having private conversations about history and evidence.

And as he says, if they are not ET, then they are at least terrestrial aliens, because their appearance and technology is most certainly alien to us.

So he is indeed convinced they and their technology is alien, it's just their source that is in question.




 

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 09, 2015, 02:27:47 AM
Much speculation has been proposed that it couldn't possibly take that long to find us after an Atomic explosion.

So  we drop Atomic bombs in 1945-1947...

That sends out a large wave of energy that travels at the speed of light...

At that speed it would take 4.5 YEARS to reach the closest Star which so far as we can tell has no planets

There are very few stars withing a 50 LY range of Earth in all directions.  68 years since 1947 explosions are just now reaching stars 68 LY out... at 100 LY they haven't even heard us yet

So that begs the question..

IF there is no gap, as you have shown, WHERE did these craft come from so fast?

Only possibilities I can see that explain that

1) They are LOCAL  (like the visits from Venus in the early 50's
2) They have already been here and we stirred them up
3)  They are from a parallel dimension that we disturbed with the Atomics They cannot be very far away because until about 50 years ago our signals into space would be weak and only be noise at about the 20 LY mark at best And Aliens beyond 100 LYs don't even know we exist

And those Pioneer ships with the message and home address that Carl Sagan sent  just recently left the outer rim of our solar system

Quote from: zorgon on August 11, 2015, 08:23:30 AM
Only possibilities I can see that explain that

1) They are LOCAL  (like the visits from Venus in the early 50's
2) They have already been here and we stirred them up
3)  They are from a parallel dimension that we disturbed with the Atomics They cannot be very far away because until about 50 years ago our signals into space would be weak and only be noise at about the 20 LY mark at best And Aliens beyond 100 LYs don't even know we exist

There's another possibility that some people talk about, the time travelling possibility, but I think that creates other problems.

Quote from: zorgon on August 11, 2015, 08:23:30 AM
Only possibilities I can see that explain that

1) They are LOCAL  (like the visits from Venus in the early 50's
2) They have already been here and we stirred them up
3)  They are from a parallel dimension that we disturbed with the Atomics They cannot be very far away because until about 50 years ago our signals into space would be weak and only be noise at about the 20 LY mark at best And Aliens beyond 100 LYs don't even know we exist

4) Timetravel ArMap
5) They know a shorter route, worm hole, stargate..., not local. And manage to handle the speed of the galaxy earth and dont get lost ;)

I think 1) is a very good option.

Quote from: ArMaP on August 11, 2015, 12:03:18 PM
There's another possibility that some people talk about, the time travelling possibility, but I think that creates other problems.

'I consider time travel as dimensional travel but sure that is a possibility

However it would seem unlikely that time travel would be that simple and easy that it would account for the hundreds of sightings and as you say that opens up all sorts of issues

Though it might account for messed up timelines :P

I need to point back to this Air Force Paper. Pay attention to the high lighted red


Teleportation Physics Study
DTIC Copy - AFRL-PR-ED-TR-2003-0034
APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE; DISTRIBUTION UNLIMITED

AIR FORCE RESEARCH LABORATORY
AIR FORCE MATERIEL COMMAND
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA 93524-7048

14. ABSTRACT
This study was tasked with the purpose of collecting information describing the teleportation of material objects, providing a description of teleportation as it occurs in physics, its theoretical and experimental status, and a projection of potential applications. The study also consisted of a search for teleportation phenomena occurring naturally or under laboratory conditions that can be assembled into a model describing the conditions required to accomplish the transfer of objects. This included a review and documentation of quantum teleportation, its theoretical basis, technological development, and its potential applications. The characteristics of teleportation were defined and physical theories were evaluated in terms of their ability to completely describe the phenomena. Contemporary physics, as well as theories that presently challenge the current physics paradigm were investigated. The author identified and proposed two unique physics models for teleportation that are based on the manipulation of either the general relativistic spacetime metric or the spacetime vacuum electromagnetic (zero-point fluctuations) parameters. Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report. The author proposes an additional model for teleportation that is based on a combination of the experimental results from the previous government studies and advanced physics concepts. Numerous recommendations outlining proposals for further theoretical and experimental studies are given in the report. The report also includes an extensive teleportation bibliography.

and this paper... both are available at the DTIC (Defense Technical Information Center)

Teleportation via Wormhole-Stargates
U.S. Air Force Teleportation Physics Study
Eric W. Davis, Ph.D., FBIS
Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin
4030 W. Braker Lane, Ste. 300
Austin, TX 78759

Two Kinds of vm-Teleportation Identified for the Air Force Study

• Traversable Wormhole engineered as a "STARGATE"
(via Einstein's General Relativity Theory field equations, 1915)

• Faster-Than-Light (FTL) solutions of the Polarizable-Vacuum Representation of General Relativity (Davis,Puthoff, Maccone, 2003; , Puthoff, 1999, 2000) induce a flat-spacetime version of the Stargate via engineering the vacuum EM parameters

Part 1: What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Hyperspace tunnels thru spacetime, which can:

     * connect together remote regions within our universe
     * connect together different universes
     * connect together different space dimensions (for higher dimensional wormholes)
     * connect together different chronological periods within the same space region (backwards time travel!)

Part 2 - What are Traversable Wormholes?

• Traversable Wormholes possess:
     * normal or backwards time flow
     * normal or nonexistent gravitational stresses on space travelers
     * entry/exit openings (or throats) that can be made to be spherically shaped, cubic shaped,polyhedral shaped, generic shaped, etc.
     * flat entry/exit openings are possible – a true STARGATE or flat doorway through spacetime &dimensions!

Papers are here. This was also the page that had the Military ads
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Wormhole_Technology.html

Also THIS paper from Los Alamos

I got this one from Dan Burisch years ago and got the original file from LANL

Project Looking Glass
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation

Abstract:

Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.

Science fiction, you say? Well, such mirrors have been the subject of intense investigation both here at Los Alamos and at other research laboratories around the world. Not only do they exist, but their practical applications may be far-reaching.

"I don't understand . . .' " said Alice. "It's dreadfully confusing!"
"That's the effect of living backwards," the Queen said kindly: "it always makes one a little giddy at first- ''
"Living backwards!" Alice repeated in great astonishment. "I never
heard of such a thing!"
-Lewis Carroll

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html

Quote from: Lunica on August 11, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
5) They know a shorter route, worm hole, stargate..., not local. And manage to handle the speed of the galaxy earth and dont get lost ;)

That would explain how they get here so fast... and an FTL or Warp drive would have to be a given if they were coming from space..

However that does NOT explain how they heard us, because our outgoing signals are still limited to light speed

We recently sent a package of messages to Gliese 581D.  That system is 20.5 light years from Earth.  The signal will still need another 14 years 194 days 1 hour and 44 minutes to get there

The website is already gone but wayback machine has the counter
https://web.archive.org/web/20120226141634/http://www.hellofromearth.net/gliese581d/links/index.htm

Top message?

Hello Gliese 581d inhabitant. Can you help us humans travel through space and become smart like you. Please do not eat us we are a friendly race.
Angus Pigott
Canberra, Australia

Hu-mons are so silly

::)

So since we only started broadcasting a little more than 100 years ago, and only the last 50-60 years were they pointed into space and strong enough to carry modulation for long distances... they would have to be local or passing by to have heard us

"How did they get here so fast?"


Well, apparently they got here years before we even set off the first A bomb - 1939 in fact.

So we can't really point to the A bomb as being what 'alerted them to our presence'.

The beginning of WWII seems to be the beginning of the sightings.


If we are indeed a seeded race, it would make sense to think that they put a baby monitor somewhere in the room.

Astro -

Alleged plans for Nazi UFO's show them to be duct-ed fans like the Avro car.

Think you can get 15,000 mph and 90 degree corners from a duct-ed fan?  ::)

And so we can no longer speculate that our first atomic blast alerted the aliens to our presence and activities.

UFO's and flying saucers began making their appearance in 1939 at the very beginning of hostilities.

What luck huh? They just happened to show up at the beginning of WWII.  ::)


That being a coincidence stretches credibility to the breaking point.

We now must consider that we were being monitored before that point, to account for their immediate appearance with nothing like an atomic blast to attract outside attention.


So just how long have we been monitored? 

The case for ancient aliens in biblical times as well as ancient aboriginal times appears quite solid.


Obviously the flying saucers we see in ancient paintings of Mary and Jesus cannot be considered to be of earthly technology.

Z also has a collection of medieval reports that appear to fit the description as well.

Sumerian texts speak clearly of gods in their flying disc machines.



Since we cannot attribute any of this early technology to humans, who then are to we to consider as the owners and creators of this technology?

Nobody we know of from around these parts


It is then reasonable to extrapolate that advanced technology has been displayed in our skies since very early times, and monitoring of our species has been going on for a long time also.

1939 seems to have stirred up the hornet's nest with sightings increasing in proportion to the ever increasing hostilities.

1945 they quickly probed for who set off the A bomb from where, and also it's support facilities. Hanford was visited within a day or so of the first blast by a saucer hovering low overhead for quite some time. 

1947 Full scale invasion flap of the entire US, lasting half the year, visiting all top secret critical military installations,  hovering motionless low overhead the facilities for extended periods and culminating in The Roswell 'Crash'. It appears they wanted a detailed list of who possessed the big toys in what location and what they were up to with them.

Quote from: A51Watcher on December 07, 2015, 06:29:55 AM
It appears they wanted a detailed list of who possessed the big toys in what location and what they were up to with them.

It would be interesting to see if that also happened when other countries got their "big toys".

QuoteWell, apparently they got here years before we even set off the first A bomb - 1939 in fact.

in my humble opinion 1939 was a watershed year of things coming into form that had been trying to manifest for some time  just waiting for recognition     
the occult that started in the 1850's and was strongly associated with hilter had a hand in getting some holes blasted in the veil

....   sadly most of the wonderous things went to the negative and have followed  slowly building speed  up until now
where we are faced with a rushing energy that needs   us to change it's direction
and we can but it needs more than our attention.. it needs our intention



just a very  little history for some




http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Med/Discfiss.html

In the case of the atomic bomb there is clearly one man who is the originator of the idea. He was also the instigator of the project that led ultimately to the successful construction of the atomic bomb, and was a principal investigator in the early R&D both before and after the founding of the atomic bomb project - making a number of the key discoveries himself. By any normal standard this man is the inventor of the atomic bomb.

This man is Leo Szilard.

On September 12, 1932, within seven months of the discovery of the neutron, and more than six years before the discovery of fission, Leo Szilard conceived of the possibility of a controlled release of atomic power through a multiplying neutron chain reaction, and also realized that if such a reaction could be found, then a bomb could be built using it.

and he missed the point by using the energy for destruction when it could have gone the other way





..................

another tiny piece  and here again we branched off in a negative direction

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1939/press.html

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1939
Gerhard Domagk

The following account of Domagk's work is by Professor N. Svartz, member of the Staff of Professors of the Royal Caroline Institute.

Experiments in the treatment of inflammatory conditions by means of drugs and chemicals are known from earliest times, but for the most part the effects were nil or at best insignificant. With certain of these conditions, however, chemotherapy scored some first-class successes at an early date. Mercury is a very ancient, active chemotherapeutic agent, although it has now given place to more effective preparations. Another therapeutic agent which has been in use for a very long time is cinchona bark, the efficacy of which against malaria became generally known in Europe during the 17th century. Other experiments in anti-inflammatory treatment by chemical methods for the most part yielded but meagre results.



..................................

ah yes and another mis directional use of information

https://www.uchicago.edu/breakthroughs/1920s/
1924
Discovered the universe is expanding
In the 1920s, astronomer Edwin Hubble, SB 1910, PhD 1917, made discoveries showing that the universe consists of more than just our galaxy and that the universe is expanding, which provided the basis for the big bang model.

Research
...................

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~1930s2/Time/timefr.html

http://history1900s.about.com/od/timelines/tp/1930timeline.htm



hope I haven't wondered, yet again, to far from the point by going to some history

Quote from: ArMaP on December 07, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
It would be interesting to see if that also happened when other countries got their "big toys".

Yes it would.

Care to take that on?

Quote from: space otter on December 08, 2015, 04:15:01 AM



in my humble opinion 1939 was a watershed year of things coming into form that had been trying to manifest for some time  just waiting for recognition     
the occult that started in the 1850's and was strongly associated with hilter had a hand in getting some holes blasted in the veil

....   sadly most of the wonderous things went to the negative and have followed  slowly building speed  up until now
where we are faced with a rushing energy that needs   us to change it's direction
and we can but it needs more than our attention.. it needs our intention



just a very  little history for some




http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Med/Discfiss.html

In the case of the atomic bomb there is clearly one man who is the originator of the idea. He was also the instigator of the project that led ultimately to the successful construction of the atomic bomb, and was a principal investigator in the early R&D both before and after the founding of the atomic bomb project - making a number of the key discoveries himself. By any normal standard this man is the inventor of the atomic bomb.

This man is Leo Szilard.

On September 12, 1932, within seven months of the discovery of the neutron, and more than six years before the discovery of fission, Leo Szilard conceived of the possibility of a controlled release of atomic power through a multiplying neutron chain reaction, and also realized that if such a reaction could be found, then a bomb could be built using it.

and he missed the point by using the energy for destruction when it could have gone the other way





..................

another tiny piece  and here again we branched off in a negative direction

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1939/press.html

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1939
Gerhard Domagk

The following account of Domagk's work is by Professor N. Svartz, member of the Staff of Professors of the Royal Caroline Institute.

Experiments in the treatment of inflammatory conditions by means of drugs and chemicals are known from earliest times, but for the most part the effects were nil or at best insignificant. With certain of these conditions, however, chemotherapy scored some first-class successes at an early date. Mercury is a very ancient, active chemotherapeutic agent, although it has now given place to more effective preparations. Another therapeutic agent which has been in use for a very long time is cinchona bark, the efficacy of which against malaria became generally known in Europe during the 17th century. Other experiments in anti-inflammatory treatment by chemical methods for the most part yielded but meagre results.



..................................

ah yes and another mis directional use of information

https://www.uchicago.edu/breakthroughs/1920s/
1924
Discovered the universe is expanding
In the 1920s, astronomer Edwin Hubble, SB 1910, PhD 1917, made discoveries showing that the universe consists of more than just our galaxy and that the universe is expanding, which provided the basis for the big bang model.

Research
...................

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~1930s2/Time/timefr.html

http://history1900s.about.com/od/timelines/tp/1930timeline.htm



hope I haven't wondered, yet again, to far from the point by going to some history

Well. history IS the point here, so any relevant patterns recognized and shared are appreciated.  8)

Since we have now arrived at the point in this discussion about aliens having monitored us for a long time, let us additionally consider the information revealed from S4, that being that aliens told us they had given our species a series of 65 different genetic upgrades over a period of thousands of years.

Well that certainly would explain their monitoring us for a very long time.


And while this information may be perception changing, lets not forget it implies direct contact. 

This info was imparted from them to us.

If I recall the TV series the "X Files that started in 1993...not that long after the Bob Lazar incident..

There is one point in the Program or one of the Movies where one of the Secret Clan who were aware of the E.Ts explains to Mulder something along the lines of how long they have been here on Earth..

Makes one wonder is part of that based upon what Bob Claimed he witnessed or was told about such things at S4.

If it is truth..!

QuoteSince we have now arrived at the point in this discussion about aliens having monitored us for a long time, let us additionally consider the information revealed from S4, that being that aliens told us they had given our species a series of 65 different genetic upgrades over a period of thousands of years.

Well that certainly would explain their monitoring us for a very long time.