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Title: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: Eighthman on February 02, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/221484/armored_worm_found_in_mars_sand_dune_in_rover_photo/

A claim about a sand worm on planet Arrakis... er, I mean Mars.
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: rdunk on February 02, 2016, 05:50:37 PM
(This might be appropriate for being in the Mars Anomalies forum board?)

"Worm" is not a conclusion I would make for this, but, as often is the case with NASA photos, this presents little more than "eye-candy". :) This certainly appears to be some sort of tubular feature, with what appear to be concentric rings around/along the length of it that we can see - looks somewhat like "threads" we see on a screw.

For sure, there is not much reason to doubt this piece to be an anomaly of some sort, as it certainly is drastically different from its surroundings. But, from the pic we have of it, we cannot know whether it is actually a circular threaded length we see, or, are we seeing the forward edge of a shaped piece that extends rearward back into the "sand"?? Because it doesn't extend through the surface in the next nearer depressions at each end, we can know it does not extend very far on each end, if it has "ends".

Here are 2 magnified screenshots of the piece, from the Rover Curiosity photo, for us to also look at in this thread:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01237/opgs/edr/ncam/NRB_507299922EDR_F0521162NCAM00323M_.JPG

(http://s9.postimg.org/6scbgviwv/Screen_Shot_2016_02_02_at_12_13_17_PM.jpg)

(http://s18.postimg.org/b53bwrr95/Screen_Shot_2016_02_02_at_12_16_09_PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: Eighthman on February 02, 2016, 06:03:28 PM
Unless it's just another JPEG error, it does look like a wonderment, lying across the dune's direction.  And it seems to have equal/regular segments.

Sort of a dune zipper. 
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: ArMaP on February 02, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
It does look like a screw, and, whatever it may be, it's been there since sol 1233 (I think).
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 03, 2016, 02:05:23 AM
or maybe the the robot arm has been trying to cause another sandslide :D

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: zorgon on February 03, 2016, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 02, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
It does look like a screw, and, whatever it may be, it's been there since sol 1233 (I think).

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5314/5904547403_fb34221562_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: Dyna on February 03, 2016, 05:16:05 PM
Anyone know if that is a microscopic picture? What size it is?
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 03, 2016, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 03, 2016, 05:16:05 PM
Anyone know if that is a microscopic picture? What size it is?

no links, no frame of reference , no idea :D

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: 08rubicon on February 03, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
  I think the sand bank is the track left by the rover wheel, so the item is very
small..maybe less than 1/2 inch long, and in my opinion may be a spring that
was at one time part of the rover..Seems several items have fallen off the rover
over the time it has been 'on mars'.
  Just my opinion, that means less than nothing
   rubicon
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: rdunk on February 03, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
Well now, the plot thickens! :)

As ArMaP pointed out, "it's been there since sol 1233 (I think)". Based upon his comment, I have looked more at earlier photo shots, and it is............until Sol day 1229, and it is not there!! The pic is as clear as the others, and the threaded looking feature is not in the pic.

I will post the shots of both Sol 1237 (again) and Sol 1229, so all can see the difference. So, now the question becomes not only "what is it?", but also, "why isn't it in a the Sol day 1229 photo?" Did the Rover drop it there? Or, is it in fact "screwing itself" through the sand? The pics do show the sand to be undisturbed with no anomaly in the earlier pic.

Sol day 1237:http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01237/opgs/edr/ncam/NRB_507299922EDR_F0521162NCAM00323M_.JPG

(http://s30.postimg.org/fnu0pjl2p/Screen_Shot_2016_02_03_at_11_16_33_AM.jpg)

Sol day 1229: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=NRB_506599920EDR_F0521162NCAM00323M_&s=1229

(http://s10.postimg.org/ckdzw5vs9/Screen_Shot_2016_02_03_at_11_18_56_AM.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: ArMaP on February 03, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: Dyna on February 03, 2016, 05:16:05 PM
Anyone know if that is a microscopic picture? What size it is?
Knowing that Curiosity's wheels are 40cm wide, the "worm" is 4.5 cm long.

PS: on my previous post I should have said "it has been there since sol 1234". Also, it wasn't there on sol 1221, as we can see.

(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01221/opgs/edr/ncam/NLB_505900047EDR_F0521162NCAM00352M_.JPG)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: ArMaP on February 03, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 03, 2016, 05:22:51 PM
no links, no frame of reference , no idea :D
No links? What's that thing on the second post? :)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: ArMaP on February 03, 2016, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: rdunk on February 03, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
As ArMaP pointed out, "it's been there since sol 1233 (I think)". Based upon his comment, I have looked more at earlier photo shots, and it is............until Sol day 1229, and it is not there!! The pic is as clear as the others, and the threaded looking feature is not in the pic.
Thanks, I missed sol 1229. :)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 04, 2016, 02:23:27 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 03, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
No links? What's that thing on the second post? :)

that would be a retort from Rdunk with links provided :D

anyway , how come you haven't said it was created by one of the instruments.. im almost damned sure that's what you would say if I'd posted the picture :D

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: space otter on February 04, 2016, 04:10:38 AM


Quoteim almost damned sure that's what you would say if I'd posted the picture :D




bwhahahahahahaha 

self prejustice....pretty funny funbox   ;D



Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: ArMaP on February 04, 2016, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: funbox on February 04, 2016, 02:23:27 AM
anyway , how come you haven't said it was created by one of the instruments..
Because it doesn't look like it was.

Quoteim almost damned sure that's what you would say if I'd posted the picture :D
That says more about you than about me. :)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: The Seeker on February 04, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
it looks like a piece of armor clad electrical cable, normally called BX; probably a scrap piece that finally fell off the rover...


seeker
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 04, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
look familiar :D

(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA15695_hires.jpg)

you know the markings

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 04, 2016, 03:17:57 PM
Quote from: the seeker on February 04, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
it looks like a piece of armor clad electrical cable, normally called BX; probably a scrap piece that finally fell off the rover...


seeker

don't you mean unscrewed itself off Mr Seeker

*interlude of a musical variety*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxagKjTqeM
where has it come from :D

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: Dyna on February 04, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
 :)Yup a living one of these guys
(http://s20.postimg.org/xyhmlolbh/h_mars_rotini_050214_02.jpg)
(http://s20.postimg.org/orzbyeg31/s9612609.gif)
http://www.space.com/789-life-mars-rock-solid-evidence.html
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: rdunk on February 04, 2016, 09:10:29 PM
To me, maybe slightly similar, but not really the same. Each does have an anomalous appearance in its setting, whatever is its make-up!
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on February 03, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Knowing that Curiosity's wheels are 40cm wide, the "worm" is 4.5 cm long.

4.5 cm?

Have we determined the SCALE of the image yet?
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: funbox on February 05, 2016, 04:22:57 AM
Quote from: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
4.5 cm?

Have we determined the SCALE of the image yet?

its more or less in front of the rover

(http://i.imgur.com/wuMCgcd.jpg)

small , yet too perfectly formed for something that fell, no sign of disturbance in the surrounding sand

funbox
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 10:45:13 AM
Okay I had to go look to get the scale :D

Got it now

(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/01244/opgs/edr/rcam/RLB_507930617EDR_F0521370RHAZ00311M_-br2.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Herbert Worm
Post by: zorgon on February 05, 2016, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: the seeker on February 04, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
it looks like a piece of armor clad electrical cable, normally called BX; probably a scrap piece that finally fell off the rover...

Considering the size and the fact that it wasn't there in the early photos  perhaps the rover dropped one of these

Curiosity Rover Drill bits

(http://i.imgur.com/0edbtAq.jpg)