Can this One Video Change The World? or is it too late !
It certainly makes a lot of valid points.. IMO
but I suspect only a few could benefit..
The very strong and Intelligent or those fortunate enough to be guided by the right people.
The World now just seems under far too much control and there is just too much to fear..too many laws in place and our real Freedom either taken or acting like a cage around us by our own failings or weaknesses.. I wonder if much of this may be truth..
like the lab rats or animals who may believe where the ceiling of a tank or cage maybe ..when there may later become an opening...but its become so conditioned it does not attempt to break free anymore after the set period that it had previously attempted when it was previously sealed.
sometimes it opens again....but they no longer believe its possible to break out.
But do we need to change or are we maybe contented overall...
or how much better could things really become ?
http://www.anonews.co/the-one-video-that-can-change-the-world/
reminded me of ole Winston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1WI8BUe9Eg
funbox
Too many assumptions in the first minute, I don't think it's worth my time.
And no, that video cannot change the world.
I agree with the little guy above me wearing the glasses.
Quote from: ArMaP on April 26, 2016, 09:07:21 PM
Too many assumptions in the first minute, I don't think it's worth my time.
And no, that video cannot change the world.
Greetings ArMaP:
Again, you make a snap judgement and pontificate and build a strawman argument on a complete lack of understanding the point at hand.
If you did not look at the complete video, you have no base to form an intelligent opinion about "that video cannot change the world."
Your disdain for videos perhaps limits your perception of the world many of us perceive differently from your unique perspective.
Or is it your automatic response to anything to do with Anonymous?
Just trying to get a handle on your baseless answer, friend.
Thank you.
Hi Norval!
I've been AWOL also, putting together another magazine.
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Nice to see you.
So you believe ArMaP is prescient? A visionary? Clairvoyant?
How else could One make such a statement with absolutely no firsthand information?
Just here to learn.
Respect,
thor
I found it to be an inspiring message but yet with no direction. They have identified a lot of the most underlying problems but rather vague in their message other than we have the power to change it. They have identified that we are prisoners. How many inmates have successfully turned prison into utopia? We are against all odds and distracted to the point of stupidity. Nothing short of a genetic revolution will save us or a massive die off of the ruling classes. IMO while the message may not change the world it IS a worthwhile watch.
I find that when you bring people closer together, a fight breaks out. Not all the lovely videos and pretty pictures will change that. The more I've found out about other people, the more I tend to be solitary. People are animals, with a few exceptions. And nothing will change that.
And yes I did watch the whole video.
And that's my opinion...
Rock...
QuoteIf you did not look at the complete video, you have no base to form an intelligent opinion about "that video cannot change the world."
*the mighty Mjölnir comes down hard with an ear crushing thud*
a good point , did you show the same attentive non-dismissiveness to Richard Burton and stomach buster guy ?, again, please, ArMaP ,go and remove that strapline from the pen, for accuracy's sake.. *a portal unfolds inandfromitself ,mfb's flood the floor in a deluge of tentacles and horned snail mucus *
funbox
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 26, 2016, 10:55:59 PM
If you did not look at the complete video, you have no base to form an intelligent opinion about "that video cannot change the world."
I have a base, even if not as good as if I had watched the whole video.
QuoteYour disdain for videos perhaps limits your perception of the world many of us perceive differently from your unique perspective.
No, if that was the case I wouldn't even had hit the "play" button.
QuoteOr is it your automatic response to anything to do with Anonymous?
I didn't even knew that the video had anything to do with Anonymous.
QuoteJust trying to get a handle on your baseless answer, friend.
The fact that you do not understand the base for my answer doesn't mean it's baseless. :)
This is why I don't think the video can change the world:
1 - it starts by saying the viewer is "seating alone before the screen", but it uses that fact to deliver its message. To me, that's a hypocritical assumption, just because it helps their point of view;
2 - then it speaks of some people's lives as if everybody has the same life, which is not true;
3 - days were never timeless, that's a lie, used to shift the viewer's perception to what they want;
4 - then it says that the elements we need to survive are owned by corporations, which is another lie. Food, water and land are not owned by corporations, even if most of what people from the more industrial countries gets comes from corporations;
I only saw up to this part, so my previous opinion was based on that.
This video looks more like an advertisement made by a corporation to try to convince people to stop buying things from rival corporations and buy only their things. Videos like this do not change the world.
Videos made for people in the US are not likely to convince people that live in other countries, in which the situation is not the same. If you want a video that
may help change the world (no video can really change the world, only we can), find (or make) a video that shows that people are all the same, regardless of race, religion, country of birth, whatever, and that when we work together we can do great things, but when we start looking for enemies we will find them, regardless of they being really enemies or just in our imaginations.
PS: yesterday was the 42
th anniversary of the Carnation Revolution, that changed Portugal. It was a revolution in which only 4 people died, killed by the bullets of the political police, surrounded by the people, because it was a revolution in which the people joined the military forces that were revolting, because they saw in them their sons, brothers, husbands, etc., and understood that they were all one people fighting for a better living and to stop the war.
End of yearly rant. ;D
, , , the only difference in my agreement with what ArMaP said, , , , , , , ,
, , , , , I came to the same conclusion in less time. ;D
Quote from: funbox on April 26, 2016, 11:53:15 PM
*the mighty Mjölnir comes down hard with an ear crushing thud*
a good point , did you show the same attentive non-dismissiveness to Richard Burton and stomach burter guy ?, again, please, ArMaP ,go and remove that strapline from the pen, for accuracy's sake.. *a portal unfolds inandfromitself ,mfb's flood the floor in a deluge of tentacles and horned snail mucus *
If you are talking to me (I don't even understand that), let me tell you I don't understand a thing of what you're saying, so I don't know what to answer.
Quote from: ArMaP on April 27, 2016, 12:54:45 AM
If you are talking to me (I don't even understand that), let me tell you I don't understand a thing of what you're saying, so I don't know what to answer.
ah I see , I made a spelling mistake .. try again now :D
*a small hint*
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SEEwAvlJOcI/maxresdefault.jpg)
funbox
Quote from: ArMaP on April 27, 2016, 12:37:52 AM
I have a base, even if not as good as if I had watched the whole video.
Your 'base' does not give you the right to criticize something you no nothing about. Your statement here exemplifies that.
QuoteThis video looks more like an advertisement made by a corporation to try to convince people to stop buying things from rival corporations and buy only their things. Videos like this do not change the world.
QuoteI didn't even knew that the video had anything to do with Anonymous.
That is exactly what the problem is. You don't perceive the world the way other people do.
You click on a link http://www.anonews.co/the-one-video-that-can-change-the-world/ which takes you here and you don't see ANONYMOUS? :P
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w400/thorfourwinds/anon%20SS%20change%20500.png)
QuoteThe fact that you do not understand the base for my answer doesn't mean it's baseless. :)
It's not a question of 'understanding your base...' if you did not see the video, you have no right, nor 'base' to comment on it. Period.
Quote4 - then it says that the elements we need to survive are owned by corporations, which is another lie. Food, water and land are not owned by corporations, even if most of what people from the more industrial countries gets comes from corporations;
I only saw up to this part, so my previous opinion was based on that.
The sad part of this is that you actually believe that tripe.
QuoteThis video looks more like an advertisement made by a corporation to try to convince people to stop buying things from rival corporations and buy only their things.
Wrong again. Perception obviously depends on the point of view of the perceiver.
"Exposing the truth about our world. My name is Spencer Cathcart and this is a video I wrote & created."Hardly a corporation.
QuoteVideos like this do not change the world.
How would you ever know, as you did not watch it?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Quote from: funbox on April 27, 2016, 01:46:25 AM
ah I see , I made a spelling mistake .. try again now :D
*a small hint*
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SEEwAvlJOcI/maxresdefault.jpg)
It's not enough, I still don't have any idea of what you're talking about.
Quote from: ArMaP on April 27, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
It's not enough, I still don't have any idea of what you're talking about.
did you watch the video I posted through to the end, without dismissing out of hand before the end ?
it was from 1984, Richard Burton and John Hurt, aka chest burster guy
'the pen' is Ats but that's not the first time you've heard me call it that.
*mfb's in Hazmat suits, start cleaning up the mucus drenched floor *
funbox
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 27, 2016, 02:26:57 AM
Your 'base' does not give you the right to criticize something you no nothing about. Your statement here exemplifies that.
Do I need to know what I'm talking about to have the right to voice my opinion? That doesn't seem to be needed by anyone else, as everybody talks about every thing.
For example, you voice your opinion about me and you know me just by a small fraction of what I do, my posts. :)
QuoteThat is exactly what the problem is. You don't perceive the world the way other people do.
That's why every person has their own opinions, because each one perceives the world in their own way. Or are we supposed to be clones or robots, acting all in the same way?
QuoteYou click on a link http://www.anonews.co/the-one-video-that-can-change-the-world/ which takes you here and you don't see ANONYMOUS? :P
I saw the link, it doesn't tell me who made the video.
QuoteIt's not a question of 'understanding your base...' if you did not see the video, you have no right, nor 'base' to comment on it. Period.
You talk as if I didn't see a thing from the video, which is not true. I specifically said what part I saw and that my opinion was based in that. And I do not need to watch any thing to have the right to have an opinion. My opinion may be baseless, stupid, trash or even good, but I do have the right of having it and voicing it, regardless of anyone liking it or not.
QuoteThe sad part of this is that you actually believe that tripe.
The problem is that many people see things as if the US is the whole world. It's not, things are not the same everywhere.
QuoteWrong again. Perception obviously depends on the point of view of the perceiver.
"Exposing the truth about our world. My name is Spencer Cathcart and this is a video I wrote & created."
Hardly a corporation.
Read what I wrote, I didn't say it was made by a corporation, I said it looked like an advertisement made by a corporation, it's not the same thing, at least in Portuguese, maybe my sentence didn't translate as I thought.
QuoteHow would you ever know, as you did not watch it?
How do you watch a video, from the end? If someone starts watching a video and things it's not worth it, how is that video going to change the world?
QuoteThank you for your time and consideration.
You're welcome, you know you can always get my opinion, even if you think it's wrong. :)
Quote from: funbox on April 27, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
did you watch the video I posted through to the end, without dismissing out of hand before the end ?
No, I ignored it. :)
Quote'the pen' is Ats but that's not the first time you've heard me call it that.
Probably, but I forget things I consider unimportant. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on April 27, 2016, 02:13:57 PM
No, I ignored it. :)
Probably, but I forget things I consider unimportant. :)
do I have permission to draw a smiley face and clown hat on your avatar?
dare I add party streamers?
funbox
QuoteYou talk as if I didn't see a thing from the video, which is not true. I specifically said what part I saw and that my opinion was based in that.
That's rich!
You based your opinion on the first one minute of an 8 and one-half minute video.
You are absolutely right, though. You have your opinion. :P
Thank you for the illumination. ;)
Quote from: funbox on April 27, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
do I have permission to draw a smiley face and clown hat on your avatar?
dare I add party streamers?
It's not against the rules, go ahead. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on April 27, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
It's not against the rules, go ahead. :)
the Wolves ate all the streamers :D
(http://i.imgur.com/PMHcJur.jpg)
funbox
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 27, 2016, 04:08:22 PM
That's rich!
You based your opinion on the first one minute of an 8 and one-half minute video.
The beginning of a video is one of the most important parts, as it should grab the audience, if a video fails to do that it's not likely to get as many views as it could if it did. If a video doesn't grab everyone's attention then it's not going to change the world, at most it's going to change some of the people that watch it.
QuoteYou are absolutely right, though. You have your opinion. :P
I do, and it's my own. :)
QuoteThank you for the illumination. ;)
You'r welcome, you do know that one thing I don't lack is opinions. ;D
Quotesometimes it opens again....but they no longer believe its possible to break out.
But do we need to change or are we maybe contented overall...
This video is me in every way, it is all of the things I think, all of the things I say, it is what I see and feel, and yes it could change the world if enough people cared... but they don't.
I have only a few people who would not be angry if I shared this with them, their main goal in life is not to be "brought down" they don't want to be made to think about where things come from what is happening behind the creation of their designer wear and their favorite food and entertainment.
There is zero hope for mankind to become free along with the other creatures on our planet if we rely on man to do the freeing. Put anyone in power and soon they will be corrupt and drunk on power.
Our hope is that god has made a promise and he will follow through, the message has power because it is clearly full of truths.
This continues to be my hope :)
Thanks for members thoughts on the video.
My initial impression when I first watched and posted it was maybe based upon my previous research and what I thought may had been possible valid facts ;that may have suggested that much of the more modern world is appearing to be under control in the many eg's shown in the video.
That the Majority of individuals have little control to do their own things in this world anymore...
Everything seems owned or there are organisations or other persons who are in charge or control so many things that each of us in the western world associate with.
It maybe past research could have been incorrect or its based on ones own individual interpretation.
I do however think that it related or contained a lot of truthful statements / egs in what it was designed to inform its viewers on.
Could it change the World ?
I believe that making the Populations aware of certain facts could have the possibility to change things ..but it maybe also down to what thoughts and actions are taken to change things..
Trying to actually be more clear on what is seen as right or wrong about things in the World..is something that maybe difficult for many to accept before they can consider all the various situations.
Is there the right form of type of informative guidance that can tell or explain things to all of us ...or will we always have the conflict of opposing opinions...or just not be clear on too many things.
Is their or is it only an Elite who can really understand the big picture or to be able to make clear decisions in order to be able to take the right actions in order to try to effect the right changes for the better...
I see that as being one of the main initial challenges..before things could change for the better if things do require such changes.
Is there a type of modern Bible that can teach or guide all of us the rights and wrongs..maybe a start !..
There are no doubt many types of religions that offer such type of guidance but I don't think we need religion as such..
Maybe the right Morals and certain laws we need to accept...
Understanding things that may require very high intellect that may offer solutions may only be applicable to those who have such abilities and understanding..
That makes it hard to be able to teach the general populations to be able to understand.and the general population would not easily be able to make decisions or actually do much about certain things that is beyond their abilities / understanding..
We have to hope that we can have those who do understand who can be trustworthy leaders to take us in the right direction.
When I tried the Link Thor it did not seem to direct to what I think was your initial intended website page.
QuoteError
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I did note it on another post that you made..
You have been busy !
Looks an interesting Project that you have been involved in and created and it has your very talented presentation and layout appeal ..
You came up with an idea / Niche and have created a nice associated product for it.
Hope that it is something that you can have further and continued success with it.
Thor4winds
QuoteI've been AWOL also, putting together another magazine.
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QuoteIs there the right form of type of informative guidance that can tell or explain things to all of us ...or will we always have the conflict of opposing opinions...or just not be clear on too many things.
If we look at the past we can see that people eventually grow, sometimes led by what was once the few.
There was a time when many decided that a non white was not even a human being and any who felt they were and equal was sick. The reason behind such things has always been profit and a more comfortable way of life for the belief holder.
The same holds true of those who believe animals and plants are expendable for our pleasure and profit and lesser then us, not to be respected and no reason they should have rights.
I could provide numerous examples of the growth in human direction and thinking but we are held back by those who benefit and wish to profit from and take pleasure from anyone, anything and everything at their will.
Clearly the worlds religions are a force that fits right into the rest for profit and gain of power and worldly comfort. That does not mean there is no creator and I think we do have the guide we need built in if any individual chooses to listen as it steers us through the flotsam.