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Title: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!

This I think may be hard to believe if true..and to many..it may seem totally unacceptable..

or are they  suggesting,  we been led to believe it to be wrong to sexualise children in the last 100 years or what ever.. as it no doubt would have gone on in past generations when there was no such laws..

It may however be incorrect as its wrote by what seems a Jewish news website..


Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung – BZgA) are aimed at parents – the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.



"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

Why do some people still vote for these scumbags? Next time we must all vote our local NATIONALIST (extreme right) Political Party to restore normality.
Canadian author and public speaker Michael O'Brien who has written and spoken extensively about the crisis of culture in the West spoke to LifeSiteNews.com about the shocking and extremely disturbing phenomenon. It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order.

"The imposed social revolution that has swept the western world is moving to a new stage as it works out the logical consequences of its view of man's value," said O'Brien. "It is merely obeying its strictly materialist philosophy of man. If man is no more than a creature created for pleasure or power. If he is no more than a cell in the social organism, then no moral standards, no psychological truths, no spiritual truths can refute the 'will to power' and the 'will to pleasure'."

The pamphlet advises parents to permit young children "unlimited masturbation" except where physical injury becomes apparent. It advises: "Children should learn that there is no such thing as shameful parts of the body. The body

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/11/28/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
I think this sort of horror is inevitable if corrupt neoliberalism continues in the West - and it will be encouraged by the 1% many of whom enjoy molesting children.  They are hollow soulless people and have nothing else.

Maybe it's for the best that the birthrate in these nations is so low.  They may not deserve children !
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
Old story, even from your link, as that's from last year. That November 2015 article has as source another article from October 2015, that has as source an eutimes.net article from 2009, about something that happened in 2007, as this (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/koerper-liebe-doktorspiele-von-der-leyen-stoppt-umstrittene-aufklaerungsbroschuere-a-497527.html) spiegel.de article says, and, apparently, the booklet was published in 2001.

Not one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
So you are saying that the German government ACTUALLY published a booklet that contains the paragraph beginning with the word, "Fathers......."

If true, I find your reply simply astounding.  I would hardly know how to reply tactfully.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Dyna on June 18, 2016, 07:50:33 PM

QuoteNot one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".

From your link
QuoteThe Federal Ministry for Family Affairs has removed the brochure "Body, Love, Doctor games" from his repertoire. At the Cologne public prosecutor had previously received an indication - the applicant finds the advice ambiguous and doubtful.
[/quote]
Quotethroughout Germany a total of 650,000 books were distributed, they went to nursery schools, family education centers, pediatricians - and are there well today. In addition, the Guides were countless times from the BZgA websites downloaded. Because of the criticism but was agreed with the Ministry of the Family, not to spread the PDFs of the guide on.


The fact is that child molestation crushed the soul. Many even where the actions are so accepted like
Hollywood, commit suicide. The people who don't care about the innocent children will someday get what they deserve and anyone who feels that this is ok is a monster in my book.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
I think that is the 1st article that I have ever come across to suggest such a extreme thing..be it recent or past..

Had anyone or many come across such a thing in the past I wonder ?

Its a good observation and bit of research you made ArMaP ...

I had not managed to do such checks at the time it was posted..

I am surprised  your investigation related to 2007 or 2001...

If so had much been suggested in the past that maybe we had not been aware about... or is it just fake info..

Do you speak German ? ...as the article that your link goes to seems to be so  unless one has a translation option.

I have to agree it would seem unlikely to be true and extreme if they had or have or aim to bring it in..

but then again we are seeing so many things lately that seem hard to accept or believe.. that we have been or are slowly being fed.. that the next extreme thing, may then not seem as concerning as maybe it should be....we are seeing quite a few things either in the media or as conspiracies that relate to certain sexual things..or pedophilia ...that we may never have imagined. or believed. Jimmy Saville as an eg..or the LGTB toilet issues ...

so I would not count such a thing out if there are truths to some of the things that the likes of David Ikce and Alex Jones have talked about.. yes some of their conspiracies have become true Facts. or appear to have done so...trust them or not !

They have also said on numerous occasions that many in the establishments are involved in Pedophilia..before and after Saville..

So based upon their exposure of Saville , I would not count out them being wrong !... along with much of the corruption that they appear to have exposed..be it 9/11 or the corrupt banking systems.. that I do think I agree with..as well as the present issues arising with migration ...

That they seem to be using to replace many existing European populations for cheaper labor..(or to replace those euro workers who will not accept some of the lower paid work) or that it may be reducing wages.. or replacing even many a professional qualified positions with some of the more qualified migrants..there are so many positions in the Television media alone now becoming a coloured or other race..

It maybe more difficult for the original white races to easily accept..and seen as an increasing threat..

and will be if we go into any further recession and less jobs..


That I am sure we have many of our own good existing  people being replaced..It is making competition even more extreme.. than it need have been..for all initial  existing populace at all levels..

(But at the same time..in other ways that's not to say they do not make benefits ) but upon watching a program about it the other day.. the Govt admitted some of it was to replace jobs original populace would not accept to keep the taxes coming in..
(That admittedly we all benefit from)


The person who I obtained the article from has had some others comment and someone posted another article..

but even if this suggest the opposite, we may not really know for sure..

http://www.snopes.com/exploitation-nation/

QuoteCLAIM:Germany and the rest of the European Union are legalizing pedophilia.


FALSE
EXAMPLE: [Collected via email, November 2015]

I just saw something incredibly alarming claiming Germany and some other EU countries are going to legalize pedophilia--is this possible?

ORIGINS: In the 1980s, Germany's Green Party co-leader, Jürgen Trittin, released an election pamphlet lobbying to legalize sex between children and adults.  It also actively promoted the agenda of pedophile groups.  The support for legalized pedophilia officially ended in 1990, and Green Party officials, by all accounts, tried to permanently distance themselves from it.

Trittin has said that his party's stance on pedophilia was intended to shock and push back against Germany's criminalization of homosexuality (Paragraph 175, which was ended in 1994.)   He told members of the press in 2013,

"In the founding phase of the Greens, gay and lesbian groups were campaigning to reverse discrimination of a kind you can hardly imagine today.

The impetus for liberalisation and decriminalisation overshot its target. And it overshot, because there was the fiction that - beyond violence and the abuse of a relationship of trust — there could be sexual relations between adults and children."

The story has been in headlines in recent months after an internal investigation by Germany's Green Party concluded that the group, in the 1980s, did, in fact, support the country's "pedosexual movement," which advocated for "consensual relations" between adults and children (not dissimilar to other groups in Europe and North America, such as the North American Man/Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, which still has a high-profile presence in the United States.) Members of the Green Party apologized to victims of past sexual abuse for trivializing their experiences.

An unrelated pamphlet, first published in 2001, has been cited as evidence that Germany is legalizing pedophilia, as it advocates, among other things, that parents "tickle, caress, and kiss the child in various places while it is being cleaned."  In fact, it was part of a push for early childhood sex education.  The pamphlet was written by Ina-Marie Phillips and distributed by Germany's Federal Center for Health Education (BZgA). 

The offending passages, argue supporters, have been taken out of context and are an attempt to help parents and children identify the difference between normal touches and cuddling and sexual abuse.  However, the pamphlet was out of print as of 2007.

It is worth noting that Germany today has some of the most groundbreaking treatment for pedophiles in the world, with its national "Don't Offend" network and campaign.  Its treatment is aimed at active prevention of child sex abuse rather than punishment after the fact, giving potential abusers therapy and support.


Brooke Binkowski is an award-winning journalist and researcher. She has written and produced for CNN, CBS, NPR, the Globe and Mail, AJ+, the Christian Science Monitor, and various other outlets. Brooke speaks two languages well and five languages very badly. She loves to travel, run, play music, and read, and is an avid saber fencer and an accordion enthusiast.



QuoteOld story, even from your link, as that's from last year. That November 2015 article has as source another article from October 2015, that has as source an eutimes.net article from 2009, about something that happened in 2007, as this spiegel.de article says, and, apparently, the booklet was published in 2001.

Not one of the articles in the whole series of sources of sources of sources points to any place where we can see as proof of Germany and EU legalizing paedophilia.

It's just the typical "big bad X is going to do Y, be afraid".
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Dyna on June 18, 2016, 09:52:04 PM
The have archives but I can't translate the PDF's

http://www.bzga-whocc.de/?uid=b728fd4190482c6d6bb44a91ebbc190e&id=Seite4375
https://forum.sexualaufklaerung.de/index.php?menu1=2&menu2=2&menu3=4
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
So you are saying that the German government ACTUALLY published a booklet that contains the paragraph beginning with the word, "Fathers......."
I don't know if you are addressing me, but I can guarantee you that the booklet didn't have that English sentence, and that, apparently, was part of the problem, as it's easy to manipulate a translation to sound like we want it to and present it as something different.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:03:40 PM
This is maybe another related article..

But later seems to deny there is truth to it..I think ..

We cannot prove having sex with Children does them any harm..says deranged liberal Scumbag Free patriot post..

(https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/902b472572a1b20e794adecd17d877ed182bd5ceeea106a5c1a52b9c14c7067e_large)
https://lockerdome.com/freepatriotpost/8811992521683732

EVIDENCE has emerged that the views of the Pedophile Information Exchange influenced policy-making at the National Council for Civil Liberties when it was run by former Labor Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

PIE members were lobbying NCCL officials for the age of consent to be reduced and campaigning for "paedophile love".Their view that children were not harmed by having sex with adults appears to have been adopted by those at the top of the civil liberties group.
Today we publish extracts from an NCCL report written for the Criminal Law Revision Committee in 1976 when Mrs Hewitt was general secretary.



It says: "Where both partners are aged 10 or over, but under 14, a consenting sexual act should not be an offence. As the age of consent is arbitrary, we propose an overlap of two years on either side of 14.

"Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage.

"The Criminal Law Commission should be prepared to accept the evidence from follow-up research on child 'victims' which show there is little subsequent effect after a child has been 'molested'.



"The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage.

"The present legal penalties are too high and reinforce the misinformation and prejudice. The duty of the court should be to inquire into all the relevant circumstances with the intention, not of meting out severe punishment, but of determining the best solution in the interests of both child and paedophile."

Mrs Hewitt, 65, was general secretary between 1974 and 1983. After days of intense pressure, the former Labour MP for Leicester West finally admitted last week the NCCL was "naive and wrong" over its ties to PIE


She said: "Any suggestion that I supported or condoned the vile crimes of child abusers is completely untrue."As the NCCL archives demonstrate, I consistently distinguished between consenting relationships between homosexual men, on the one hand, and the abuse of children on the other.
"When Jack Dromey, as NCCL chairman in 1976, vigorously opposed PIE at the NCCL AGM, he did so with the full support of the executive committee and myself as general secretary."

However Labour MP Dromey's opposition to PIE has been questioned by its former chairman, convicted paedophile Tom O'Carroll, who claims he felt "welcome" at NCCL meetings where he sat on the gay rights sub-committee.


Mr O'Carroll said: "While they did not like PIE and did nothing to support our objectives, they were afraid of appearing insufficiently 'right on'.

"Consequently they were nothing like as strenuous and public in their efforts to distance themselves from PIE as they are now claiming.

"Dromey is quoted as saying 'I was at the forefront of repeated public condemnations of PIE and their despicable views'. That's news to me. Maybe by 'public' he meant imprecations muttered to cronies at his local pub."

Dromey's wife Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour party, was legal officer at the NCCL between 1978 and 1982. She has expressed her "regret" over the NCCL's involvement with PIE but has pointedly declined to apologize.

http://extremelynewsworthy.com/archives/127199
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:03:40 PM
This is maybe another related article..
If it's about a situation in the UK then it's not related, as that booklet was distributed in Germany and Switzerland.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
The article may relate to the booklet,

but also the title of the tread also relates to the EU as well as  Germany..


QuoteIf it's about a situation in the UK then it's not related, as that booklet was distributed in Germany and Switzerland.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
The article may relate to the booklet,

but also the title of the tread also relates to the EU as well as  Germany..
The title is a hoax, there are no signs of either Germany or the EU legalizing paedophilia, much less child pornography.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 10:28:26 PM
The responses given to this story appear to be stunningly qualified and lacking a full explanation for something shocking.  It begins with 'no effort to LEGALIZE pedophilia' as opposed to an apparent effort to get acceptance for it!  i can imagine a criminal saying, 'the charges are false, I didn't murder anyone at that time or place............"

It is difficult to imagine how inaccurate translation could account for the 'Fathers' comment.  I think it's gonna have to be a complete fraud, a fake outright .  Comments made from Greens sound  rankly disingenuous.

It is similarly hard for me to imagine how any professional or public figure can espouse opinions in favor of pedophilia without having their careers justly ruined - but then again, starting pointless wars and concealing massive sexual assaults in parts of Europe don't seem much bother either. 
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:47:56 PM
I just hope that you are right..

But as mentioned by myself and Eighthman in our further comments... there maybe reasons to suggest that it maybe or may become possible..

and we may wonder how far they may be trying to push us or get us to accept..


Quote from: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
The title is a hoax, there are no signs of either Germany or the EU legalizing paedophilia, much less child pornography.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 11:28:22 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on June 18, 2016, 10:28:26 PM
The responses given to this story appear to be stunningly qualified and lacking a full explanation for something shocking.  It begins with 'no effort to LEGALIZE pedophilia' as opposed to an apparent effort to get acceptance for it!  i can imagine a criminal saying, 'the charges are false, I didn't murder anyone at that time or place............"
There was no effort to get acceptance for paedophilia. The booklet was removed because it had parts that were "misleading (or unclear) and ambiguous" (all the translators I used gave me that), and some people thought it could be used as an excuse for paedophile actions.

QuoteIt is difficult to imagine how inaccurate translation could account for the 'Fathers' comment.  I think it's gonna have to be a complete fraud, a fake outright .  Comments made from Greens sound  rankly disingenuous.
Are you used to make translations? If you are you know what I'm talking about.

QuoteIt is similarly hard for me to imagine how any professional or public figure can espouse opinions in favor of pedophilia without having their careers justly ruined - but then again, starting pointless wars and concealing massive sexual assaults in parts of Europe don't seem much bother either.
Probably because nobody was espousing opinions in favour of paedophilia.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 18, 2016, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 18, 2016, 10:47:56 PM
But as mentioned by myself and Eighthman in our further comments... there maybe reasons to suggest that it maybe or may become possible..
Based on what? On what someone says on a site? Get the facts first, worry after confirming them.

In this case, there was no sign of official condoning of paedophilia, there was no sign of trying to make it legal, there are not even any references to the EU wanting to making it legal, the only fact is that the booklet was published and, 6 years after, was removed because some people complained about it.

Quoteand we may wonder how far they may be trying to push us or get us to accept..
You may, and you may also worry about the zombie apocalypse or about the invasion of killer rabbits from outer space, but I suggest you worry about proven problems, they are enough to keep us busy. :)
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Eighthman on June 19, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
http://www.dw.com/en/pedophilia-scandal-entangles-german-greens/a-16836153

Gee, when did German become such a fuzzy language?  I always liked the tightly focused compound words that commonly describe something highly specific to a degree that dwarfs English.

Ambiguity and lack of clarity constitute a choice.  If the subject is pedophilia and 'some people might misunderstand' what was said, then the lack of concern about hard meaning in a critical topic tells you you're being bullsh*tted.

This is 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' stuff and the ambiguity was by design because it wasn't necessary. Notice the odd situation involving 'ambiguity' in the Green party.


Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 19, 2016, 01:32:32 AM
With ref to what you say about the details and with ref to the German website link you posted that as I think you are suggesting explains the facts you describe about the booklet etc..

Assuming that you did not read it in German..

Did you use an auto translation or copy and paste the content into one online...

QuoteAre you used to make translations? If you are you know what I'm talking about.

Often I get a pop up show up, giving me the chance to transcribe if I opt to do so..but it did not show up on this occasion.

I think there maybe an option within the website, but when I click on it... it does not translate immediately...and I cannot understand the further German wording..

If you managed to translate it... can you copy and paste the English version on the website below.. if I am unable to translate it..

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/koerper-liebe-doktorspiele-von-der-leyen-stoppt-umstrittene-aufklaerungsbroschuere-a-497527.html

I suppose its a concern because I believe that there maybe other related agendas that I may suspect could connect to such a thing..that if not presently true may be leading towards trying further to see how far they can push it.. if it is something that maybe being considered by who ever..


I do agree however its unlikely to be true as there has been little else mentioned about it...

and Im sure there would be a uproar..

But again there have been other things happen that have occurred where you would not think possible..

QuoteBased on what? On what someone says on a site? Get the facts first, worry after confirming them.

In this case, there was no sign of official condoning of paedophilia, there was no sign of trying to make it legal, there are not even any references to the EU wanting to making it legal, the only fact is that the booklet was published and, 6 years after, was removed because some people complained about it.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2016, 01:43:47 AM
Quote from: Eighthman on June 19, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
Gee, when did German become such a fuzzy language?  I always liked the tightly focused compound words that commonly describe something highly specific to a degree that dwarfs English.
The problem is not one language, it's the conversion from one language to the other.

QuoteAmbiguity and lack of clarity constitute a choice.
Maybe, maybe not, I always avoid judging people without evidence.

QuoteIf the subject is pedophilia and 'some people might misunderstand' what was said, then the lack of concern about hard meaning in a critical topic tells you you're being bullsh*tted.
That lack of concern, either by the responsible for the booklet, by those distributing it and by those that read it (it was a book for parents also) lasted for 6 years before someone complained, so I suppose it wasn't that easy to misunderstand, although possible.

QuoteThis is 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' stuff and the ambiguity was by design because it wasn't necessary. Notice the odd situation involving 'ambiguity' in the Green party.
Once more, I never judge people without clear evidence, and I don't know the reason for the ambiguity, so I cannot say if it was by design or not. The situation with the Green party is not really an ambiguity, as there were really some people that, apparently, considered "freedom" to mean "freedom to do anything they wanted" (I saw a little of that mindset after the Carnation Revolution), but, as the article you posted says, it was a minority of people that didn't go their wishes.

Sure, most of that people are still alive, some still politically active and probably still trying to get their wishes, but they're still a minority, and a minority cannot make changes in the laws.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2016, 01:46:44 AM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 19, 2016, 01:32:32 AM
Assuming that you did not read it in German..

Did you use an auto translation or copy and paste the content into one online...
I know only some German words, not enough to read a news article, so I did what I usually do in situations like this, I used 4 online translators and tried to create a logical translation based on all the versions and my little knowledge of German and of how translator software works.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 19, 2016, 02:05:13 AM
Thks for explaining..

Unless a translation site does it easily with just one site..Im not sure id want to have to try 3 more..

Depending what browser you use may also determine if your browser can auto translate..

Im on google chrome that has translated for me usually ok..but for some reason the popup has not appeared when visiting the German site..

upon looking in google chrome options / settings.. / there is a option to select language..

I suspect that I could alter that in Chrome and try it..

but I have never used it before and I have to hope nothing goes wrong.. or that I can go back to English ok..


I maybe tempted..later

looking at it however it does not seem as straight forward as i would have expected...so I don't think I will risk it..

Is or was the booket a PDF or txt version..and did you also manage to translate that..

some PDFs you cannot easily copy and paste..unless you can make a txt version from it..

it also maybe we do not have all the details...although I think you will have the basis of it..
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Pimander on June 19, 2016, 09:49:31 AM
The problem with the EU and Germany is nothing to do with pornography or Paedophilia.  ::)

The biggest problem for poorer countries, especially those in the Eurozone (countries who use the Euro currency) is that the situation has given the German economy a huge boost at the expense of others.

The lack of a "floating" exchange rate (one that changes as the value of a nations currency changes) means that Germany has been able to successfully export manufactured goods easily but poorer EU countries like Greece, Spain and Portugal cannot devalue their currency allowing them to export goods cheaper.

This means that poorer countries can export less and their industry has been devastated.  Unemployment is very high in those countries in the Eurozone therefore tax revenues are low and the governments need to borrow huge sums of cash to provide essential services to citizens.  The more they borrow the higher the interest and therefore the more they ned to borrow.

The solution is to get rid or the Euro and not pay the banks back or the banks write off most of the debt.

Luckily for the UK, we voted to not join the Euro and kept the Pound and therefore the Bank of England.  We set our own interest rates which help determine the value of our currency.  The UK and Germany are the strongest economies in Europe and they are the ones who can set interest rates (the European central bank is in and run by Germany).
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: astr0144 on June 19, 2016, 12:17:08 PM
I thought that the thread was about trying to determine if there may had any truth about the title of the article posted..(As much as I may find your reply interesting and welcome any further comments in regards to you knowledge and thoughts about Germany and the EU or the Euro referendum)

It was not about Politics on the topic that you refer to ... :)

I suspect that you were only able to be on a quick visit and had just read part of the thread that may had referred to some other comments that may had referred to certain things that you refer to..



QuoteThe problem with the EU and Germany is nothing to do with pornography or Paedophilia.  ::)

The biggest problem for poorer countries, especially those in the Eurozone (countries who use the Euro currency) is that the situation has given the German economy a huge boost at the expense of others.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: ArMaP on June 19, 2016, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: astr0144 on June 19, 2016, 02:05:13 AM
Unless a translation site does it easily with just one site..Im not sure id want to have to try 3 more..
The problem with automated translations is that they rely on their training and on the statistical occurrence of the words, to try to get some context, so they are biased but the text used in the training, and that's why they are always asking for a better translation.

Using 4 (I usually 5, but the last one I use mostly for shorter sentences, as that one is very good for that) sites give us a better idea of the meaning of the sentence and allows us to choose, based on the rest of the text, the best translation, which, in many cases, is a mix of two or even three translations from different engines.
Title: Re: Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!
Post by: Dyna on June 22, 2016, 07:37:24 PM
Clearly there has been an effort on mainstreaming child sex for many years. There are many many incidents. The one in the OP had many links here and there all removed.


"On April 7, 1970, the Berlin state parliament discussed the Rote Freiheit after-school center. As it turned out, the Psychology Institute at the Free University of Berlin was behind the center. In fact, the institute had established the facility and provided the educators who worked there.

Pantomiming Intercourse

The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

According to the records, a "sex exercise" was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "friging hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: "In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us."

The material introduced the broader public to a byproduct of the student movement for the first time: the sexual liberation of children. Besser passed on the reports to an editor at the West Berlin newspaper Der Abend, who published excerpts of the material. On April 7, 1970, the Berlin state parliament discussed the Rote Freiheit after-school center. As it turned out, the Psychology Institute at the Free University of Berlin was behind the center. In fact, the institute had established the facility and provided the educators who worked there. "

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html#js-article-comments-box-pager

I cannot find any way to translate these PDF's but it is what is available now.

http://www.bzga.de/infomaterialien/sexualaufklaerung/?ab=20
Loving accompany ...
No.: 13660500

I selected a couple sentences from one I downloaded age 1-6 and used a sentence translator I had to type in.,
Alteren Kinern can parents explain gently that Dufur Papas penis must mums vagina .

Kindliche Sexualitat ist mit der im Wesentlichen auf Generalitat fokussierte Sexualitat Erwachsener nicht zu vergleichen.

Aktive Kinder gehen ihrer Neugier und ihrem positiven Korper gefuhl nach, beginnen deshalb aber nicht fruher mit dem Geschlechtsverkehr.
Translation
Childhood sexuality is not to be compared with the essentially focused on Generalitat sexuality adult.

Active children go their curiosity and their positive body by feeling , but why not start earlier with the sexual intercourse .

This all is looking a lot like the same removed stuff.