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Holy crap! It's being reported that the Turkish Prime Minister says a military coup is underway in Ankara right now:

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BREAKING NEWS: TURKISH PM SAYS MILITARY COUP ATTEMPT UNDERWAY.
10:07 PM - 15 Jul 2016

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BREAKING NEWS: Reports that the Turkish Armed Forces took over the government.

Stay with @pzf for the latest.
10:06 PM - 15 Jul 2016
UPDATE 4:58 EST

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UPDATE: Turkey's top general 'held hostage' at military HQ: state agency - @AFP

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UPDATE: Source in #Turkey's presidential office has told @Reuters that President Erdogan "is safe" - @SkyNewsBreak
10:59 PM - 15 Jul 2016

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#Breaking #Turkey President Erdogan will address the nation shortly
10:55 PM - 15 Jul 2016

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Shootings in #Ankara from army helicopters. #Turkey #MilitaryCoup
10:55 PM - 15 Jul 2016
UPDATE 4:48 EST

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Report: Turkish military releases statement, saying armed forces have 'fully seized control' of the country.
10:44 PM - 15 Jul 2016
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UPDATE 4:45 EST

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MORE: Some hostages taken at Turkish military headquarters in Ankara; President Erdogan safe - CNN Turk reporter
10:41 PM - 15 Jul 2016

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COUP UNDERWAY:
- Turkey
- Istanbul airport seized
- Explosions reported
- Officials taken hostage
- Military deployed
- Social media blocked
10:45 PM - 15 Jul 2016
UPDATE 4:38 EST

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10:34 PM - 15 Jul 2016

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BREAKING VIDEO: Alleged Footage Of Helicopter Opening Fire In Turkey. http://breaking911.com/gunfire-heard-... ... (@Conflicts)
10:38 PM - 15 Jul 2016
Remarkable video of a tank rolling down a city street:

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10:12 PM - 15 Jul 2016
UPDATE 4:32 EST

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BREAKING NEWS: TURKISH STATE NEWS AGENCY SAYS EXPLOSION BEING REPORTED AT POLICE SPECIAL OPS HQ IN ANKARA.
10:30 PM - 15 Jul 2016

ilhan tanir @WashingtonPoint
#Flash:
Turkish Military declares it seized the power in Turkey.
It's official on #NTV.
10:28 PM - 15 Jul 2016 · Washington, DC, United States

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BREAKING NEWS: TURKISH BROADCASTER TRT IS UNDER ARMY CONTROL.
10:30 PM - 15 Jul 2016

Turkish President Erdogan Returns to Istanbul Amid Coup Attempt

A coup was attempted in Turkey Friday with a faction of the military taking over state TV, imposing martial law and a curfew and reportedly attacking the police headquarters in the capital of Ankara, according to American and foreign officials.

There were also at least two blasts reported near the entrance to parliament and no immediate word of casualties. The entrance to the building appears damaged.

Late Friday night, the country's president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, returned to Istanbul after going to an undisclosed location and vowed that those who carried out the coup will "pay." Earlier, he urged supporters to take to the streets in defiance.

Erdogan called the coup a "gift from God" because it will help Turkey clean out the military from the "members of this gang." The timing of the coup was "meaningful," because the military will start meetings in the beginning of August, and those who staged the coup were afraid of the decisions that would be made at those meetings, Erdogan said.

"This is not old Turkey," he said. "This is new Turkey."

In Istanbul at least six people are dead and 100 injured from the clashes that resulted from the coup attempt, a source at Istanbul Haydarpasa Hospital told ABC News. Video shows Turkish military firing over hundreds of protesters' heads as they approached a tank on a highway.

It was not clear who was behind the attempted coup, but a broadcaster for state TV read a letter from a group calling itself the "Turkish peace council" saying that martial law is being imposed. The news anchor says media personnel were handcuffed and forced to read what they were given.

CNN Turk has said that soldiers entered their building, the Dogan Media Center, which also houses the newspaper Hurriyet and DHA, a broadcaster. Shouting could be heard in the background as an image of the studio broadcast on TV.

Late The Turkish Chief of Army has been rescued from detention and is back on duty after a military operation, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said. Those that held him hostage have been "eliminated," Yildirim said.

Yildirim also said that security forces were doing what is necessary to resolve the situation.

Speaking on Turkish television, Yildirim said the military leadership has ordered all soldiers back to their bases. The prime minister called those behind the coup "traitors" and called the move "a terrorist act."

Turkey's state-run Anadolu Agency reported that a military helicopter has attacked Ankara police headquarters. It was not clear if there were any injuries. Other clashes and explosions have also been heard in the city, while video posted to Twitter show military jets flying over the city.


The Bosphorus Bridge and Fatih Sultan Mehmet Bridge in Istanbul have been closed and Turkey's Dogan News Agency reports the national police directorate has summoned all police to duty in Ankara.

At first, the scene at Taksim Square, a popular tourist destination in Istanbul, was tense but calm, and people were lining up at ATMs to withdraw cash and buying bread and water in case services go down, an eyewitness told ABC News. Video posted to Instagram shows crowds of people lining up at a grocery store and ATMs.

Shortly after, pro-military chants started to take place in the square, and then shots were fired, forcing people to leave, she said.

In a FaceTime interview with CNN Turk, Erdogan called on his supporters to gather in the country's squares and airports.

"We will give a strong reply to the leader of the coup," Erdogan said. "I declare those responsible will receive the highest penalty."

Erdogan's was reported to have been at his summer house in the south of Turkey, but he is now back in Istanbul. Turkish TV showed him being mobbed by supporters after he landed.

A senior defense official told ABC News that the Department of Defense is concerned about the situation and is trying to assess the facts. More than 2,000 US servicemembers and civilian employees are stationed in Turkey.

U.S. citizens in Turkey were told to shelter in place and stay indoors, the U.S. State Department said, adding to contact family and friends to inform them they're safe. The state department also confirmed that martial law and a curfew have been imposed in Turkey, and U.S citizens were advised not to attempt to travel to the U.S. Embassy in Ankara or Consulates at this time.

The U.S. embassy said it has seen reports that social media has been blocked. Twitter said it found "no reason" to think it was fully blocked in Turkey, but it suspects there is an international slowing of traffic in the country.

A total of 2,200 U.S. service members and civilian U.S. Department of Defense employees are currently in Turkey, a senior defense official told ABC News. A total of 1,500 U.S. service members and civilian employees are at Incirlik Air Base, which has been at an elevated force protection level since March, when it also ordered non-essential personnel out.

Incirlik is owned by Turkey and has a large Turkish military presence, the official said. The Department of Defense is unaware of any impact to U.S. troops there and whether there has been an impact to base operations.

President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry said all parties in Turkey should support the democratically-elected Government of Turkey, show restraint and avoid any violence or bloodshed, a statement from the White House read. The State Department will continue to focus on the safety and security of U.S. citizens in Turkey, and the president asked that Kerry continue to brief him as the situation unfolds.

Turkey has a history of military coups. The last coup was in 1980, when 650,000 people were put under arrest. The country has the second largest army after the U.S. and any NATO country. Turkey joined NATO in 1952 and has remained a NATO member throughout its previous coups.

Erdogan has long blamed a powerful Muslim group led by Turkish preacher Fethullah Gulen, a moderate Turkish cleric living in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania, for leading a parallel state.

"This is not a country that can be run from Pennsylvania," Erdogan said.

Before 2013, the two were political allies before falling out over corruption allegations leveled at Erdogan.

In 2012, more than 300 military officers were jailed over an alleged conspiracy to overthrow Erdogan's government.

The armed forces were long viewed as guardians of secular republic established by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, carrying out three coups between 1960 and 1980 and pushing an Islamist-led government from power in 1997.


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© The Associated Press FILE - In this Sept. 24, 2013 file photo, Turkish Islamic preacher Fethullah Gulen is pictured at his residence in Saylorsburg, Pa. A lawyer for the Turkish government, Robert Amsterdam, said...
A lawyer for the Turkish government, Robert Amsterdam, said that "there are indications of direct involvement" in the coup attempt by Fethullah Gulen, a Muslim cleric who is living in exile in Pennsylvania. He said he and his firm "have attempted repeatedly to warn the U.S. government of the threat posed" by Gulen and his movement. According to Turkish intelligence sources, he said, "there are signs that Gulen is working closely with certain members of military leadership against the elected civilian government."

The president of a group that promotes Gulen's ideas, the New York-based Alliance for Shared Values, denied the charges. Y. Alp Aslandogan told The Associated Press "we categorically deny such accusations and find them to be highly irresponsible." Earlier in the evening, the alliance said, "we condemn any military intervention in (the) domestic politics of Turkey."

Some background on Gulen:

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WHO IS FETHULLAH GULEN?

Trained as an imam, or prayer leader, Fethullah Gulen gained notice in Turkey some 50 years ago, promoting a philosophy that blended a mystical form of Islam with staunch advocacy of democracy, education, science and interfaith dialogue. Supporters started 1,000 schools in more than 100 countries, including about 150 taxpayer-funded charter schools throughout the U.S. In Turkey, they have run universities, hospitals, charities, a bank and a large media empire with newspapers and radio and TV stations.

The U.S. has shown little inclination to send Gulen back to Turkey. The Justice Department has declined to comment on Gulen's case. In an interview with the AP early this year, Aslandogan, of the Alliance for Shared Values, said: "(Gulen) said that the United States has a long tradition of democracy and rule of law. ... They will see that these are politically oriented charges, and they will not allow Erdogan to spread his ambition into the United States."

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WHY NOT DEPORT HIM?

The U.S. has shown little inclination to send Gulen back to Turkey. The Justice Department has declined to comment on Gulen's case. In an interview with the AP early this year, Aslandogan, of the Alliance for Shared Values, said: "(Gulen) said that the United States has a long tradition of democracy and rule of law. ... They will see that these are politically oriented charges, and they will not allow Erdogan to spread his ambition into the United States."

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WHY NOT DEPORT HIM?

The U.S. has shown little inclination to send Gulen back to Turkey. The Justice Department has declined to comment on Gulen's case. In an interview with the AP early this year, Aslandogan, of the Alliance for Shared Values, said: "(Gulen) said that the United States has a long tradition of democracy and rule of law. ... They will see that these are politically oriented charges, and they will not allow Erdogan to spread his ambition into the United States."

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WHAT'S THE STATUS OF LEGAL CLAIMS AGAINST GULEN IN THE U.S.?

Last month, a lawyer representing the Turkish government said he would continue exposing Gulen's "unlawful conduct" one day after a federal judge in Scranton, Pennsylvania, dismissed his lawsuit against the cleric. "Despite the outcome of this ruling, a very clear message has been sent to Gulen and his co-conspirators in the Poconos: the days of impunity are numbered, and your unlawful conduct will be brought to light," lawyer Robert Amsterdam said. The suit contended Gulen ordered sympathetic police, prosecutors and judges in Turkey to target members of a rival spiritual movement critical of his teachings. U.S. District Judge Robert Mariani ruled the claims did not belong in U.S. courts.

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WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS?

Some of the U.S. schools have been investigated by the FBI amid allegations of financial mismanagement and visa fraud. One of the most explosive claims is that the schools are importing Turkish teachers to identify impressionable students and indoctrinate them into Gulen's movement, sometimes called Hizmet, Turkish for "service." In May, a complaint filed with Texas education officials accused a network of charter schools associated with the Gulen movement of abusing a visa program to import large numbers of Turkish teachers and violating state and federal laws by paying them more than American teachers.

The complaint also asserted that the network, Harmony Public Schools, skirts competitive bidding rules to award contracts to Turkish vendors. Harmony has denounced the complaint as politically motivated and without merit.

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WHAT'S THE RESPONSE TO THE LATEST ALLEGATIONS?

In a statement Friday, the Alliance for Shared Values said: "For more than 40 years, Fethullah Gulen and Hizmet participants have advocated for, and demonstrated their commitment to, peace and democracy. We have consistently denounced military interventions in domestic politics. These are core values of Hizmet participants. We condemn any military intervention in domestic politics of Turkey. Events on the ground are moving quickly and it would be irresponsible for us to speculate on them. We remain concerned about the safety and security of Turkish citizens and those in Turkey right now. Comments by pro-Erdogan circles about the movement are highly irresponsible."

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WHAT ARE GULEN'S DAYS LIKE?

An AP reporter was given a tour of Gulen's Pennsylvania compound this year but was unable to see or interview him. He spends hours a day in prayer and meditation and goes out rarely, mostly to see doctors for ailments that include heart disease and diabetes, according to Aslandogan. Gulen's living quarters are lined with books on shelves that also hold jars filled with soil from various regions of Turkey.

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COUP CUT DOWN
More Than 160 Dead... 1,100 Injured... 2,839 Rounded Up... Erdogan Vows Retribution...

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Erdogan: Coup Attempt Was 'An Act Of Treason'... Promises To 'Eradicate' Suspects... 2,700 Judges Removed... Erdogan Blames U.S.-Based Cleric Fethullah Gulen... Says He Committed 'Treason'... 'If You Dare, Come Back To This Country'... Kerry: No Extradition Request Received... Cleric Denies Involvement... Who Is Gulen?... Military Chief: The People Have 'Voiced Their Support For Democracy'... Airports Reopen, Flights Resume... Turks Celebrate #FailedCoup... PHOTOS...



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Former CIA Officials Give Turkish Coup Plotters Advice On CNN


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Turkish opponents of the military coup stand atop a tank after helping retake a major bridge in Istanbul from Turkish troops.
Oh, for the good old days ? when the CIA regularly assisted military coups d'états in foreign democracies.

Several former spooks appearing on CNN Friday night to discuss the attempted military coup in Turkey had more than a few pointers for the seemingly amateurish military officers leading the takeover efforts. And at least one contributor seemed more disappointed in their performance than relieved that the coup has thus far failed to topple a democratically elected government.

Leading the pack was Robert Baer, a veteran former CIA officer and author ? and, apparently, a former coup participant.

Baer told CNN anchor Anderson Cooper that the Turkish coup was "not professionally done."

"I have been involved in coups before," he said. "They should have taken CNN Turk and closed it down the first minutes, the radio station, social media, the internet. Even if they didn't arrest [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan, they should have taken care of all of that right at the beginning."

Baer also revealed that he had discussed the possibility of a coup with Turkish military officers in the past few months.

"I've been speculating with Turkish officers a couple months ago about a coup and they said, 'Absolutely not,'" he said. "And clearly they're not involved, so there's limited support for this."

Baer went on to acknowledge that the prospects of the coup's success were bleak, but he argued that it could still prevail.

"If the Turkish army, these elements, want to go to war with the people, it would mean civil war," Baer concluded. "And right now, it doesn't look like it, but you know tomorrow is another day. And certainly people in the Turkish military aren't certain ? or the government."

James Woolsey, a former director of the CIA who has advocated for the hanging of National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden, offered his analysis of the Turkish coup on CNN earlier in the evening, arguing that it was a tactical failure.

"With coups, as with military operations, the plans never survive the first part of the operation," Woolsey said. "You have to be flexible enough to change your tactics as you're going through. And it doesn't sound like these coup plotters had that kind of flexibility."

The thing about these coups ? and we are certainly not encouraging it; we are discouraging it ? but history shows that if you are going to execute these coups, you have to really mean it.
Retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark
Woolsey, who said he spent six months in Turkey last year, went on to imply that the coup need not change the U.S.' close relationship with the country.

"I think there's one thing ? this is not a happy situation and things may turn very sour ? but there is one positive aspect at least, that I'd be willing to share," he said. "Turkey is a prosperous and progressive place with its workforce."

"We need [Turkey] and we need to work with it and we need to have it work with us," he concluded.

Retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, a former leader of NATO's presence in Europe, appeared on CNN in the same segment as Woolsey. (Turkey is a member of NATO.)

While Clark shared the criticism of the coup's tactics, he was more careful to clarify that he was not supportive of military insurrections.

"The thing about these coups ? and we are certainly not encouraging it; we are discouraging it ? but history shows that if you are going to execute these coups, you have to really mean it," Clark said.

Fighting between pro-coup army officers and the civilians and security forces supportive of the government has resulted in the deaths of at least 265 people, according to The New York Times.

By Saturday morning, the coup appeared to be in its last throes. Coup soldiers occupying major bridges in Istanbul surrendered to forces loyal to Erdogan, while the government detained thousands of troops implicated in the attempted takeover.

Erdogan returned triumphantly to Istanbul, the country's largest city, on Saturday and his resumption of complete control of the country appears imminent.

The commentary of the former CIA officials about the Turkish coup is particularly notable because of the CIA's long history of facilitating coups in foreign countries with an eye toward advancing U.S. geopolitical or financial interests. This was especially true during the Cold War, when the U.S. toppled numerous foreign governments around the world that it perceived to be too sympathetic to the Soviet Union.

The CIA is believed to have been at least passively complicit in a number of Turkish military coups since 1960. The U.S. military and intelligence agencies worked closely with Turkey's national security establishment, sometimes called the "deep state" due to its hidden influence over Turkish politics, as part of the United States' Cold War-era alliance with the country.

The U.S. has historically also been a partner in the Turkish military operations against Kurdish separatists in the southeastern part of the country ? operations that have routinely drawn criticism from human rights groups. For example, the U.S. helped Turkey find and capture Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan in 1999.

Notwithstanding some of the ambivalent-sounding commentary of former CIA officers, the Obama administration has been unequivocal in its support of the democratically elected Turkish government.

"The President and Secretary [of State] agreed that all parties in Turkey should support the democratically-elected government of Turkey, show restraint, and avoid any violence or bloodshed," the White House said in a statement late on Friday.

is it me or was that an amazingly quick attempt ,failure and cleanup..? smells like that 'look over here again, smoke and mirrors trick

funbox

so we dont talk about the coup leaders massive amount of funding and schools across the usa.i wish i could get grants like this guy.i would start a superman school for gifted children .a new start of leaders for the declining leadership in the usa.this country may be turning into a dungheap but its our dungheap and its time to turn this crap into carbon fiber .

The evening news is saying that the Turkish Government is back in control after asking its people to help them do so...against the attempted Military takeover...

Can anyone clarify briefly more what it was all about ?

Why would the Countries Military try to take over their own Govt ?  or was it just a small part ..

Was it the CIA trying to get the Turkish Military to do a take over so that America could then take some further control ? where they have Bases that are in place to aid them with Middle Eastern issues with the likes of Iran, Syria and Iraq etc..

Its been a very strange two days.. with the terror attack in Nice France and now an attempted Govt takeover in Turkey...

What next ?

Quote from: robomont on July 16, 2016, 11:28:18 PM
so we dont talk about the coup leaders massive amount of funding and schools across the usa.i wish i could get grants like this guy.i would start a superman school for gifted children .a new start of leaders for the declining leadership in the usa.this country may be turning into a dungheap but its our dungheap and its time to turn this crap into carbon fiber .

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funbox

what is final outcome,leader of turkey is now in putins arms.
divide and conquer.machiavelli?pick a side or die.not much choice.i prefer bring it on.let the chips fall where they may.but im not leader of turkey either.
i would have stole the nukes and told olbummer go ahead and make me glow. ;D

Quote from: funbox on July 16, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
is it me or was that an amazingly quick attempt ,failure and cleanup..? smells like that 'look over here again, smoke and mirrors trick

It's possible, I witnessed two such attempts and when they are not well prepared and supported they do end in a few hours.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 16, 2016, 11:55:38 PM
Why would the Countries Military try to take over their own Govt ?  or was it just a small part ..

Apparently, only a small part, otherwise they wouldn't have planes shooting down an helicopter. Although the police may have some military equipment they do not have aeroplanes.

The military is supposed to keep an eye on democracy and keep Turkey as a democratic country, according to their constitution.

QuoteWas it the CIA trying to get the Turkish Military to do a take over so that America could then take some further control ? where they have Bases that are in place to aid them with Middle Eastern issues with the likes of Iran, Syria and Iraq etc..

It's possible, but some people think that this was a trick from Erdogan to get more popular support and get rid of some political problems.

Thanks for your explanation and thoughts on it ArMaP.

I still find it a bit hard to understand either way ..

If it was just a small military take over attempted coup...Did it really have much chance of succeeding unless it was a larger overall involvement..

Then if it was a ploy by Erdogan..or some politician..

would it not later maybe backfire on them...unless there was a good chance of an overall takeover..

I wonder if there was or is something else to it !

QuoteIt's possible, but some people think that this was a trick from Erdogan to get more popular support and get rid of some political problems.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2016, 12:01:43 AM
If it was just a small military take over attempted coup...Did it really have much chance of succeeding unless it was a larger overall involvement..

I don't think it really had a large support. If it was a real attempt then I suppose the people behind it thought they would get more support from other military units.

QuoteThen if it was a ploy by Erdogan..or some politician..

would it not later maybe backfire on them...unless there was a good chance of an overall takeover..

If it was done by Erdogan then it was done to fail, so he looks like a hero and can do things like asking for the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, who they say was behind the attempt.

I could see that maybe in more than one way..

It could had been set up by Erdogen or some connection to him to make it seem as if it was a failed attempt... in which he may then be made out to the hero..

But also maybe any opposition to him may suggest that it was set up in that way by Erdogen to make things seem that it was a failed attempt and done to make him look like the savior ..and maybe blame it on any opposition..

So it may depend how the Population may view things..and if they may consider an alternative reason to any Erdogen may suggest..

QuoteIf it was done by Erdogan then it was done to fail, so he looks like a hero and can do things like asking for the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, who they say was behind the attempt

Quote from: astr0144 on July 20, 2016, 08:16:42 PM
So it may depend how the Population may view things..and if they may consider an alternative reason to any Erdogen may suggest..

That's always the problem, any revolution (or similar) wins or loses thanks to the support (or opposition) from the people.

The revolution I witnessed had the full support of the people, when the people knew what was happening they came out on the streets and thanked the military for making the revolution. That support made it possible to make a successful revolution without anyone being killed by the revolutionaries, the only dead were a few civilians that were surrounding the political police headquarters and, when they got too close, they were fired upon by the political police.

In the opposite case, if an attempt of a revolution is met with the open opposition from the people, even if the revolutionaries have weapons and the civilians do not, the huge difference in numbers will always make things shift in the direction the people want, and that's why governments like so much to keep people lazy and with as little information as possible, so they are kept quite and without any intention from moving away from that quietness.