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Started by Norval, July 16, 2016, 01:07:33 AM

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Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2016, 12:01:43 AM
If it was just a small military take over attempted coup...Did it really have much chance of succeeding unless it was a larger overall involvement..
I don't think it really had a large support. If it was a real attempt then I suppose the people behind it thought they would get more support from other military units.

QuoteThen if it was a ploy by Erdogan..or some politician..

would it not later maybe backfire on them...unless there was a good chance of an overall takeover..
If it was done by Erdogan then it was done to fail, so he looks like a hero and can do things like asking for the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, who they say was behind the attempt.

astr0144

I could see that maybe in more than one way..

It could had been set up by Erdogen or some connection to him to make it seem as if it was a failed attempt... in which he may then be made out to the hero..

But also maybe any opposition to him may suggest that it was set up in that way by Erdogen to make things seem that it was a failed attempt and done to make him look like the savior ..and maybe blame it on any opposition..

So it may depend how the Population may view things..and if they may consider an alternative reason to any Erdogen may suggest..


QuoteIf it was done by Erdogan then it was done to fail, so he looks like a hero and can do things like asking for the extradition of Fethullah Gulen, who they say was behind the attempt

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Quote from: astr0144 on July 20, 2016, 08:16:42 PM
So it may depend how the Population may view things..and if they may consider an alternative reason to any Erdogen may suggest..
That's always the problem, any revolution (or similar) wins or loses thanks to the support (or opposition) from the people.

The revolution I witnessed had the full support of the people, when the people knew what was happening they came out on the streets and thanked the military for making the revolution. That support made it possible to make a successful revolution without anyone being killed by the revolutionaries, the only dead were a few civilians that were surrounding the political police headquarters and, when they got too close, they were fired upon by the political police.

In the opposite case, if an attempt of a revolution is met with the open opposition from the people, even if the revolutionaries have weapons and the civilians do not, the huge difference in numbers will always make things shift in the direction the people want, and that's why governments like so much to keep people lazy and with as little information as possible, so they are kept quite and without any intention from moving away from that quietness.