Out of 4 Presidential candidates, 3 seem committed to peace or at least an end to pointless hostility.
A number of medical professionals have expressed deep concern over Hillary's health. This brings to mind the 25th Amendment and the Vice President.
http://fortune.com/2016/07/27/hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-war-powers/
Interesting that Kaine differs in regard to this excessive eagerness to use the military.
one of the main characters from movie paul wears eighthman shirt.
only person invited to whitehouse was sanders. sanders is next president.
hillary had concussion or was shot in head over iran by marine, while in her jet. as revenge for bengazi. secret service killed marine, plane made emergency landing and then left. secret usa iran deal was made a few months later.
The ONLY way this planet will see PEACE is when the Aliens come and wipe out the Hu-Mons.
THEN there will be peace :P
(https://xeniataler.com/item_images/alien_NE_450.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsUscVoZcMQ
Quote from: zorgon on August 12, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
The ONLY way this planet will see PEACE is when the Aliens come and wipe out the Hu-Mons.
THEN there will be peace :P
(https://xeniataler.com/item_images/alien_NE_450.jpg)
Z, in a way you are right except.......................the "One" to come is not an"alien", but rather was born on this Earth. And He is not coming with "peace", but he is coming with the wrath of God, to defeat the alien satan who HAS been here for a long long time......... satan is the absolute reason there is and has been no PEACE on Earth!
For those of us who know this "One" (Jesus) already, we now have the PEACE of God in our hearts through faith in Him, and we know BY FAITH how this story ends for this Earth, and for all "Hu-Mons" - Biblically speaking of course!! And, our expectation is that we are nearing an END of the Beginning for this part of the "story" ........................................!!! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWqwL0cTuRA
Quote from: rdunk on August 12, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
Z, in a way you are right except.......................the "One" to come is not an"alien", but rather was born on this Earth. And He is not coming with "peace", but he is coming with the wrath of God, to defeat the alien satan who HAS been here for a long long time......... satan is the absolute reason there is and has been no PEACE on Earth!
Where did you read that?
Apart from a book, do you have any evidence for this? I'll answer for you and say you don't. It is simply a collective delusion.
If what you think is God was omnipotent and wanted us to know the above was true, then we would know. No ifs, no buts, no coded messages in the Bible! We don't. Go figure...
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 11:18:58 AM
Where did you read that?
Apart from a book, do you have any evidence for this? I'll answer for you and say you don't. It is simply a collective delusion.
If what you think is God was omnipotent and wanted us to know the above was true, then we would know. No ifs, no buts, no coded messages in the Bible! We don't. Go figure...
are you saying Gods are into spoilers? curious notion , hope I don't get niggled in front of one at the movie theatre :D
funbox
Quote from: funbox on August 14, 2016, 03:36:14 PM
are you saying Gods are into spoilers? curious notion
Whatever I'm saying is not as curious as the idea of a "god", who can do anything, contacting us through a book, written in a language we don't understand thousands of years ago, to get the most important message in the world to us.
I'm strange like that. I tend to ask questions and take note of the answers. :)
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
Whatever I'm saying is not as curious as the idea of a "god", who can do anything, contacting us through a book, written in a language we don't understand thousands of years ago, to get the most important message in the world to us.
I'm strange like that. I tend to ask questions and take note of the answers. :)
indeed I guess its hard being shepherds of the universe and not resisting the temptation to meddle in the experiment, but what gods have you heard of are perfect? non that I know of ... maybe its the Creator your referring to? :D
funbox
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
I'm strange like that. I tend to ask questions and take note of the answers. :)
here's a question you might ask that may or may not be pertinent to the current sway of discussion
'where has the Matrix traveller gone?'
I see him listed ,but absent in voice
now there are some interesting Notions, if I remember rightly.
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Quote from: funbox on August 14, 2016, 03:51:47 PM
but what gods have you heard of are perfect?
It's Christians/Muslims/Jews etc who make ridiculous claims like that not me.
Quote from: funbox on August 14, 2016, 04:08:09 PM
'where has the Matrix traveller gone?'
No idea.
I've been too busy to keep up here on Peggy but, some time ago, I heard he was doing his thing somewhere else on the net.
I do remember him deciding not to post here so often. He had a few rows with folks, some of whom were just trolling him. Some of the disputes were just caused by honest questions and debate. He had full control of his own area so he could add/remove any member liked/disliked so not sure why he seemed to go off sulking like that but I may have missed something....
I know I gave up as I asked certain questions and didn't get a satisfactory answer. I might just be not as smart as him but the best teachers make things easier to understand and in the end I didn't understand it. I'll stick to stuff I can comprehend. ;D
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 04:29:04 PM
It's Christians/Muslims/Jews etc who make ridiculous claims like that not me.
and do these claims ,ridiculous or otherwise refer to Gods as riddled with duality?
written and described as tinkerer's in the affairs of mankind.. an adequate description of the characters described in these storeys of yore wouldn't you say ?
QuoteNo idea.
I checked his last Post's here , hmmm there a chance he might be dead...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=424;area=showposts;start=2580
funbox
The Bible: Unravelling the most misunderstood and abused book in human history (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2557.msg35679#msg35679)
I never did finish that thread lol :o
Quote from: funbox on August 14, 2016, 04:08:09 PM
here's a question you might ask that may or may not be pertinent to the current sway of discussion
'where has the Matrix traveller gone?'
Here (https://plus.google.com/109147019951353772673/posts).
Quote from: ArMaP on August 14, 2016, 05:23:24 PM
Here (https://plus.google.com/109147019951353772673/posts).
second step leads to a huge jump ;D
http://mind-video-interfaces.weebly.com/page-6.html (http://mind-video-interfaces.weebly.com/page-6.html)
rotatedBox
Matrix is a nice guy but I never found anything he said useful. His stuff was "not even wrong" as physicists have said about ideas that defy falsification.
Thru my fundamentalist childhood, it seemed that the most basic question was never asked, much less answered: why does God not openly or directly speak to humans? Forget the fuzzy history, the dead languages, the chain of manuscript transmission or lack of internal consistency in the Bible - how do people get condemned for ignoring ambiguities? David Wilcock hits the nail on the head when he compares it to cargo cults.
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
Whatever I'm saying is not as curious as the idea of a "god", who can do anything, contacting us through a book, written in a language we don't understand thousands of years ago, to get the most important message in the world to us.
I'm strange like that. I tend to ask questions and take note of the answers. :)
Who considers that God "contacted" us in a book?? What is in the "book", the Bible, are the words and acts of God documented by those who actually experienced/witnessed them, and written over time long ago. Subsequently, these writings were translated and compiled into the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, which is considered to be "the Word of God" by all Christians
By faith I accept that God is the creator of all that exists, and that he made man with his hands, and breathed life into him. I know Pi that you at the present do not accept that as fact, but then I know that you, even with the thought of science and physics, cannot disprove it either.......now! :) But God himself will prove it to all when he returns as he has promised. And all, even you Pimander will........(Philpipians 2:10-11).... that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. :)
Pimander and all, while no one is born as a Christian, God has made a way for all of his creation to escape eternal Hell! But, it is up to each of us individually to accept or reject that provision - his son Jesus - as our Savior and Lord. I did that a long time ago, but there is still time for "all those who will" ............until the end on this Earth! One does not need "a book" to find God! Rather, it is like when we open our eyes and hearts to him, he is simply there! God says in Jeremiah 29, And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Quote from: Eighthman on August 14, 2016, 11:02:24 PM
Thru my fundamentalist childhood, it seemed that the most basic question was never asked, much less answered: why does God not openly or directly speak to humans? Forget the fuzzy history, the dead languages, the chain of manuscript transmission or lack of internal consistency in the Bible - how do people get condemned for ignoring ambiguities? David Wilcock hits the nail on the head when he compares it to cargo cults.
For the sake of argument, lets assume there is a God (as in prime creator of the Universe) - which strictly speaking is a matter of faith (in the absence of proof of its existence or otherwise).
Why does God not speak to us directly?According to Mystics and visionaries in some cases God does speak to humans directly (e.g. Moses). But of course, the truth is we don't know what (or even if) God really is.
What if God is not all powerful and from the moment of creation it submitted to the laws of the Universe? What if a really powerful (but not omnipotent) pretender posed as God. How would Moses (or whoever) know? I contend that he wouldn't. Any clever human or other being could deceive humans. Therefore religion may have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with God (even if God exists)
Forget the fuzzy history, the dead languages, the chain of manuscript transmission or lack of internal consistency in the Bible - how do people get condemned for ignoring ambiguities?Bearing in mind we have no way of knowing what messages are from the "real God" or not, how can we know what or if any human is condemned.
Again, it is humans who decide whether they believe they are condemned. The whole idea of God/heaven/hell and the rest is based on humans deciding what is sinful or not.
In the final analysis, it is religion that confuses humans. It is religion that arrogantly assumes to know the "mind" of God. Religion assumes the Bible has anything to do with God. It is all assumption. Any evil committed in the name of religion is basically foolish.
There is a Zen saying, "Before Enlightenment chop wood carry water, after Enlightenment, chop wood carry water."
Quote from: rdunk on August 15, 2016, 08:00:45 AM
By faith I accept that God is the creator of all that exists, and that he made man with his hands, and breathed life into him.
Nothing wrong with that but it doesn't chop the wood or carry the water for you. :)
QuoteI know Pi that you at the present do not accept that as fact, but then I know that you, even with the thought of science and physics, cannot disprove it either.......now! :)
Sounds like a good argument for agnosticism to me.
QuoteBut God himself will prove it to all when he returns as he has promised. And all, even you Pimander will........(Philpipians 2:10-11).... that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. :
This is where I say religion is arrogant and presumptuous. That might be true but we have no way of knowing the mind of God (if God even exists in the way religious people PRESUME).
For all you know God won't let humans off the wheel of life and death until they are humble enough to admit they do not know the mind of God. The point is we don't know.
QuotePimander and all, while no one is born as a Christian, God has made a way for all of his creation to escape eternal Hell! But, it is up to each of us individually to accept or reject that provision - his son Jesus - as our Savior and Lord. I did that a long time ago, but there is still time for "all those who will" ............until the end on this Earth!
Or we can have the humility to accept we don't know. :)
QuoteOne does not need "a book" to find God!
Precisely.
QuoteRather, it is like when we open our eyes and hearts to him, he is simply there!
Or we presume that is the case.
QuoteGod says in Jeremiah 29, And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
A book says that you mean..... "Any when you find me, how the heck can you be sure you are not being deceived." ::)
Humility. The more I learn, the more I accept there are some things I can't know for sure.
QuoteFor all you know God won't let humans off the wheel of life and death until they are humble enough to admit they do not know the mind of God. The point is we don't know.
sounds like a bunch of torturous masochists really, racists and bigots, that couldn't include the entire planets population in any of their supposed actions/communications on this planet..
smells like divide and conquer to me
like going into a one classroom in a school and telling the kids a storey, and deffing the others :D
funbox
Thanks Pimander for all of your comments!! It is clear that you do have strong thoughts about God, about whether he exists or not. At least you seriously think about the subject, and I really do respect that!! All Christians, including me, have been at the same place of questioning and unbelief at some point in our lives, until we were convicted of/by the truth, and willfully gave our hearts and lives to God, because of his mercy and love so freely given to us!
Here is a testimony from Wayne Huizenga, who briefly shares his experiences in a world class business, and in life. He does mention "finding peace"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3hVHd3qeQE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3hVHd3qeQE)
Talking about God and Jesus ruling the universe is utter nonsense because we have little or knowledge about the rest of the universe. You might as well treat a prisoner in solitary confinement for decades as an authority on world affairs by this silly logic.
Quote from: rdunk on August 15, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
All Christians, including me, have been at the same place of questioning and unbelief at some point in our lives, until we were convicted of/by the truth,
That's what makes me sad (and would if you were God lol) is that many religious people have stopped questioning. :'(
"Control your mind or somebody else will." ~ Somebody or other
Quote from: Eighthman on August 16, 2016, 12:33:27 AM
Talking about God and Jesus ruling the universe is utter nonsense because we have little or knowledge about the rest of the universe. You might as well treat a prisoner in solitary confinement for decades as an authority on world affairs by this silly logic.
Even talking about a perfect God ruling human affairs here on Earth is ludicrous. Look at the state of humanity. :)
Quote from: Pimander on August 16, 2016, 11:18:30 AM
Even talking about a perfect God ruling human affairs here on Earth is ludicrous. Look at the state of humanity. :)
Right Pimander! One thing made very clear in the Bible is...........satan is the present ruler of this Earth (not God). At one point satan even offered the whole world to Jesus, "if you will bow down and worship me"! (Matt 4:7-9) So, yes, through the ages, this world has been pretty screwed up, and it remains so because of the "one in charge here"! God even now does have charge of those who are already a part of his kingdom on this earth, but still, the decay and death of our bodies continues for all - the first death! :)
Quote from: rdunk on August 16, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
Right Pimander! One thing made very clear in the Bible is...........satan is the present ruler of this Earth (not God).
But if you believe God is omnipotent and omniscient then that makes all of that evil God's fault. Explain that for me. :)
God must have left Satan as boss deliberately if that is true. Nice!
Quote from: Pimander on August 17, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
But if you believe God is omnipotent and omniscient then that makes all of that evil God's fault. Explain that for me. :)
God must have left Satan as boss deliberately if that is true. Nice!
Bible "fact' - :)
Lucifer (satan) was with God and of highest regard.
Lucifer rebelled against God, and God cast him and his followers out to the earth.
God made man, breathed life into him/Adam, and gave Adam dominion over the whole Earth. Adam was "boss" of the Earth.
God gave man very specific direction to not eat from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, telling Adam that when you eat of it, you will surely die.
The serpent/Lucifer/satan tempted Adam, and both Adam and Eve did just the opposite God had commanded.
By Adam's disobedience, Adam's dominion of the Earth became satan's dominion - thus satan has had "charge" of the Earth since that time, and he is "boss", with Man being lost to his sinful ways.
God, by the sacrifice of his Son on a cross, made a way for man to receive forgiveness of sin, and be re-established as a part of the family of the dominion/kingdom of God.
All of this will work out for God's man, as God is true to his Word. He was true to his word when Adam's sin/death handed the Earth over to satan, and God holds true to the salvation of man and eternal life through his son Jesus, which also is presented in his Word.
That is why I openly say, "the problems of this world are spiritual and not physical, and they are a direct product of satanic influence". The peace all are looking for and hoping for is not to be found in this world, but in and with God!
Pi, I did write this as a response to your specific comments, assuming your questions were looking for answers! :)
Quote from: rdunk on August 18, 2016, 04:37:50 AM
Bible "fact' - :)
Yes, the bible exists and it says lots of things in it. That is a fact. :)
QuoteLucifer (satan) was with God and of highest regard.
Lucifer rebelled against God, and God cast him and his followers out to the earth.
God made man, breathed life into him/Adam, and gave Adam dominion over the whole Earth. Adam was "boss" of the Earth.
OK, you believe God is an an imniscient and omnipotent being? Yes.
You therefore believe God created Lucifer? Yes. Being omniscient he knew without any doubt what Lucifer would do and created Lucifer deliberately. Therefore Lucifer's actions were God's plan.
You also believe God created Adam? Yes. Being omniscient he knew without any doubt that Adam would eat the fruit. Adam's actions were God's plan.
Ergo It is God's fault Lucifer rebelled and also God's fault Adam ate the fruit.
So where exactly is the flaw in my interpretation?
You cannot be omniscient and omnipotent then blame your creation for what it does. Unless the God you believe in is not omniscient OR you are confused and your beliefs are wrong.
ETA: I don't think the Bible says Lucifer is the Serpent. There is an occult secret regarding the identity of the Serpent. The Serpent is the Messiah. And don't say, "No he's not, he's a very naughty boy!"
Quote from: Pimander on August 14, 2016, 04:46:36 PM
The Bible: Unravelling the most misunderstood and abused book in human history (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2557.msg35679#msg35679)
I never did finish that thread lol :o
has that thread Vanished , ide just found time to read it and it says its either vanished, or not accessible to me ?
funbox
Quote from: funbox on August 30, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
has that thread Vanished , ide just found time to read it and it says its either vanished, or not accessible to me ?
funbox
You need access to the "religion group". We started it because at one point the entire recent posts section was dominated by arguments about religion. As we are a site for discussing anomalous material, researching free energy and conspiracy material we created a group so you have a choice whether you see it. Amazingly the arguments stopped once they weren't allowed to ruin the site for everyone (I was involved in the arguing and there were many tears and foaming at the mouth because I persistently won them lol) ;)
I'd add you but I don't think moderators can. I can't do a lot in fact these days.... Ask ArMaP to add you. That thread seriously upsets fundamentalists. :D
QuoteOK, you believe God is an an imniscient and omnipotent being? Yes.
You therefore believe God created Lucifer? Yes. Being omniscient he knew without any doubt what Lucifer would do and created Lucifer deliberately. Therefore Lucifer's actions were God's plan.
You also believe God created Adam? Yes. Being omniscient he knew without any doubt that Adam would eat the fruit. Adam's actions were God's plan.
Could be so maybe not, free will, all of the children of god were given free will. The fact that everyone gets to chose may actually mean some things are not known until after the choices are made.
Maybe we look at things in to human of a way and maybe to small! Someone said what if you are actually a creature (an energy) so large that you cannot comprehend even yourself while in this form.
Now suppose that a fragment of your real self is put inside this temporary form like a fingertip dipped in water. The purpose to learn and experience.
what if it is like this?
http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
The true (bible) is not in a book it is inside of people already written in your heart. It is the voice that clearly tells you when you do something wrong or not so clearly if you have not worked with it but against it.
I believe we have been created, I don't limit the ways and means, we could be a virtual creation but I do know that we are loved by our creator, I was born knowing this even though I was in a Family who had no sense of any form of spirituality.
I don't think we can presume to know anything but a tiny part of a very big picture and I don't think we need to at this point, Matthew 18:2-4 "...2 Jesus called a little child to stand among them. 3"Truly I tell you, He said, "unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven....
I think we just need to focus on being decent people and as a child does trust that the rest will be taken care of and eventually made clear. The arguing about details and written works and creating a huge thing (religions) are only to give power to humans.
QuotePsalm 131:2
Surely I have composed and quieted my soul; Like a weaned child rests against his mother, My soul is like a weaned child within me.
Quote from: Dyna on August 31, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Could be so maybe not, free will, all of the children of god were given free will. The fact that everyone gets to chose may actually mean some things are not known until after the choices are made.
No, it's not that easy to get out of.
An omniscient being would know exactly what said beings will do with their free will and the outcome.
Quoteull Definition of omniscient
1
: having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight
2
: possessed of universal or complete knowledge
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/omniscient
QuoteMaybe we look at things in to human of a way and maybe to small! Someone said what if you are actually a creature (an energy) so large that you cannot comprehend even yourself while in this form.
Maybe we do but what I just said remains the truth. An omniscient being knows all. Simple as that!
Everything is the fault of an omniscient creator. Everything. No ifs no buts.
QuoteNow suppose that a fragment of your real self is put inside this temporary form like a fingertip dipped in water. The purpose to learn and experience.
That does not change what I said.
QuoteThe true (bible) is not in a book it is inside of people already written in your heart. It is the voice that clearly tells you when you do something wrong or not so clearly if you have not worked with it but against it.
So why make so much fuss over a book? It's just a book FFS. :)
Humans kill each other, torture, persecute, rule kingdoms, created the infernal mess that is Israel among other things because of what it says in that book.
Understanding the Bible properly, for what it really is, would change all that.
QuoteI don't think we can presume to know anything but a tiny part of a very big picture and I don't think we need to at this point, Matthew 18:2-4 "...2 Jesus called a little child to stand among them. 3"Truly I tell you, He said, "unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven....
Yes, but a human wrote that.
QuoteI think we just need to focus on being decent people and as a child does trust that the rest will be taken care of and eventually made clear. The arguing about details and written works and creating a huge thing (religions) are only to give power to humans.
If you are right and we were deliberately created this way, we were given the ability to argue the details. I say it would be an insult to said creator not to....
Just sayin' :P
author=Pimander link=topic=9567.msg126636#msg126636 date=1472677082
An omniscient being would know exactly what said beings will do with their free will and the outcome.
Maybe we do but what I just said remains the truth. An omniscient being knows all. Simple as that!
QuoteEverything is the fault of an omniscient creator. Everything. No ifs no buts.
When I was a baby I thought everything was my Parents fault. I know there is a reason for all of these things I feel lucky because I do know it, at least I don't have to suffer thinking it is all for naught!
QuoteSo why make so much fuss over a book? It's just a book FFS. :)
I agree with you there there is to much put on "THE BOOK" :D I consider ancient texts of all kinds learning tools, I certainly would never give my life for a book or a flag for that matter.
QuoteDeliberately created this way, we were given the ability to argue the details. I say it would be an insult to said creator not to.Humans kill each other, torture, persecute, rule kingdoms, created the infernal mess that is Israel among other things because of what it says in that book.
I don't disagree it is part of searching a good thing, as far as fighting about whats in the book nah they don't because the book doesn't say the things they claim they just like to hate.
As For created this way, suppose you created someone and it had a choice and chose dark not light just for the excitement, power, material things when they could have chose light, true happiness but with a few rules to follow.
Just because you know your kids will get into the candy jar when you leave them alone does not mean you consider them evil, BUT they do need to be taught some major lessons.
I can never do this quote stuff right.
Just sayin' :P
:)
QuoteI agree with you there there is to much put on "THE BOOK" :D I consider ancient texts of all kinds learning tools, I certainly would never give my life for a book or a flag for that matter.
here here !, or there, or somewhere at least nearby, *tips a hat to Aleister*
snippets of truth all mixed up in a ball of bullcrap, one text book borrowing from the next , like a weird game of Chinese whispers
funbox
Quote from: funbox on September 01, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
here here !, or there, or somewhere at least nearby, *tips a hat to Aleister*
snippets of truth all mixed up in a ball of bullcrap, one text book borrowing from the next , like a weird game of Chinese whispers
funbox
Seeking the golden nuggets in ball of Bullcrap! :D
Quote from: Dyna on September 01, 2016, 07:11:58 PM
Seeking the golden nuggets in ball of Bullcrap! :D
LOL - Of course the "world" and all therein is pure representation of the "bull crap" that has been mentioned above. And that is why regarding the "strait gate."................"few are those finding it". ( Matt 7:13-14 )
We pretty much are living in this ball of bull crap, except when one really does find that "golden nugget"/"strait gate", the reality of life becomes obvious, and the bull crap loses its hold on our lives! ;)
Quote from: rdunk on September 01, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
We pretty much are living in this ball of bull crap, except when one really does find that "golden nugget"/"strait gate", the reality of life becomes obvious, and the bull crap loses its hold on our lives! ;)
Maybe that "golden nugget" is just a shinier ball of bull crap, and people get so excited for its shining that they don't see it for what it really is. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on September 01, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
Maybe that "golden nugget" is just a shinier ball of bull crap, and people get so excited for its shining that they don't see it for what it really is. :)
Quote
I thought it was all guessing ? :D
or quasi not
so you do understand ...
Quotepeople get so excited for its shining that they don't see it for what it really is. :)
but what is it really ?, could it be a Russian doll effect of bullcrap, peel each faecal layer away only to reveal another underneath ? where do those corns lie, within this fetid, matrix of a structure?
funbox
Quote from: funbox on September 01, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
but what is it really ?, could it be a Russian doll effect of bullcrap, peel each faecal layer away only to reveal another underneath ? where do those corns lie, within this fetid, matrix of a structure?
Maybe they're somewhere else, where nobody expects them to be. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on September 01, 2016, 11:06:16 PM
Maybe they're somewhere else, where nobody expects them to be. :)
I've already checked down the back of the sofa.. try again :D
funbox
Quote from: Dyna on September 01, 2016, 04:52:49 PM
As For created this way, suppose you created someone and it had a choice and chose dark not light just for the excitement, power, material things when they could have chose light, true happiness but with a few rules to follow.
But if I was omniscient I would know they would do that. It would be my responsibility. To blame/condemn them would be well... EVIL!
Quote from: funbox on September 01, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
*tips a hat to Aleister*
Ditto
Quotesnippets of truth all mixed up in a ball of bullcrap,
But don't forget, "You can't polish a turd!"
Quote from: ArMaP on September 01, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
Maybe that "golden nugget" is just a shinier ball of bull crap, and people get so excited for its shining that they don't see it for what it really is. :)
Yes ArMaP you are exactly right. In Biblical vernacular such is referred to as being "the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life...... and is of the world". (1John 2:15-16)
Quote from: rdunk on September 01, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
LOL - Of course the "world" and all therein is pure representation of the "bull crap" that has been mentioned above. And that is why regarding the "strait gate."................"few are those finding it". ( Matt 7:13-14 )
We pretty much are living in this ball of bull crap, except when one really does find that "golden nugget"/"strait gate", the reality of life becomes obvious, and the bull crap loses its hold on our lives! ;)
Wasn't that the narrow gate before Mandela effected? :)
Quote from: Pimander on September 01, 2016, 11:59:39 PM
But if I was omniscient I would know they would do that. It would be my responsibility. To blame/condemn them would be well... EVIL!
:)Big picture unknown :)
But we all see the shinny crap it seems :P
Great crappy conversation here! ;D
Quote from: Pimander on September 02, 2016, 12:01:45 AM
Ditto
But don't forget, "You can't polish a turd!"
hmm, sounds like a new modern art style, I wonder how much of a shine a turd could have , let alone the infinite permutations of form :D
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