Bikers held at gunpoint by Camo dudes outside Area 51.
Camo Dudes pulling two men on bikes near gate.
http://www.2wadv.com/
The Video has had 2.5 Million views ! :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Nc9SWED00
Some more Area 51 Videos.
http://www.2wadv.com/area-51-maps.html
Several issues heres withthose camo dudes..one..they spoke far differently than they were trained as far as cursing and overacting, and as for a 4 foot tall guy, and a dude who couldnt outrun a potato, poor choice for security..
Those guys skated out for sure.cool.
Good to see you still post Littleenki. Hope you are well .
There had been some discussion on a certain forum as to trying to determine was that for real or set up as a fake.
Initially it was believed to be a set up..
But later after some more research had been done into it... the conclusion was they seemed to believe it was done for real.
Again initially .. one questioned why did the Camo dudes react like they did when the Bikers had not broke the line in the sand to go past the border line to enter Area 51 territory..
They certainly seem out of order acting so aggressive and holding them at gunpoint then to frisk them..when they had not broken any law...and then they threatened them.
I was a bit surprised by the smaller Camo dude..but the bigger one looked like what I expect a Camo dude would look like..even if he maybe older & unfit..
but at the end of the day they carry Guns so age and fitness and height may not matter..
It was later suggested that in the other videos that they did... that they had been a bit of a nuisanse to some of the Camo dudes at other places around Area 51, such as when they camped out near to one of the larger main gate border areas..
Maybe they had been reported to other Camo dudes to be on the look out for them and to challenge them..
But as its on Film... they risk being exposed..and could still be done for what they did if other authorities were to see the video and they are acknowledged..
The video had 2.5 million hits..and I am not aware of anything like that ever happening before.(or recorded on video).as has also been said by some well known long term very knowledgeable area 51 researchers.
Quote from: astr0144 on October 20, 2016, 04:49:49 PM
There had been some discussion on a certain forum as to trying to determine was that for real or set up as a fake.
Initially it was believed to be a set up..
I am going with FAKE and SET UP :P
#1 reason thoses signs and the size of the road are not groom lake road :P
(http://c8.alamy.com/comp/ADW9Y4/nevada-extraterrestrial-highway-groom-lake-road-entrance-to-nellis-ADW9Y4.jpg)
(http://www.lazygranch.com/images/fg/warningsigns.jpg)
That was not filmed at Groom Lake Road !
I think its a back entrance to Area 51 from the Rachel side..
I have been down a very similar track at the Rachel side and also encountered Camo Dudes..but they were trying to hide out of the way on one of the higher areas viewing locations.
I just managed to notice them as I passed by when they drove behind some big rock on higher ground above the main trial.. which I could have very easily missed them..
I think they get alerted by the hidden detectors on the road / trials.
Then the position them selves to watch what a visitor may do when approaching the no go, line in the sand warning signed area
When I came to the Signed zone...I turned around.. and they later came down from the higher ground and followed me until they saw me get back to the main rear gate road at Rachel.
Joerg's team had discussed the Bikers event and as far as I am aware, they do know where the location is and as I think I recall it is an Area 51 back Road trial..
Also they do arrive at the signs that as far as I can see do look like those around Area 51..
I am unable to see your 2nd image.
QuoteI am going with FAKE and SET UP :P
#1 reason thoses signs and the size of the road are not groom lake road :P
The narrator is a retard.
"Whoa, dude."
"Camo dudes."
"Gnarly."
Like a five-year-old.
Pass the bud, dude. ::)
I agree the way the Narrator speaks in parts , seem a bit weird and frustrating .
As I understand it they are a Father and Son duo who have set up that website to try to arrange Bike tours to Area 51..
They have some other videos in other areas that they went to.
hes another with a Secret Back gate.. It maybe the only one that still has the deadly force warning sign still on display ad the other main gate signs had their Deadly Force signs removed and changed to 6 months Prison if I recall.
I think this is the same Back Gate as the initial video that I posted but filmed 4 months earlier..
see the 1 minute 38 sec mark for the "Deadly Force sign"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1rK_o0dsSA
So okay everyone wants to tease the Camo dudes at the sign but NO ONE is brave enough to step acrtoss it LOL So what is the point in all this? Endless videos of people at the warning signs?
I don't get it... Maybe if the Camo dudes actually SHOOT someone we would have something :P
As far as I know no one has ever been shot yet, despite the warnings of deadly force.
Even Jesse Ventura didn't step over that line :P
Quote from: astr0144 on October 20, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
As I understand it they are a Father and Son duo who have set up that website to try to arrange Bike tours to Area 51..
Glen Campbell (not the singer :P ) used to take people on tours there
I guess UFO nuts have a need to visit that MECA sign
::)
So what is that UFO abouve Sniper hill in that last video?
Based upon some of your comments..and knowing that you live within 100 miles from Area 51... I am suspecting that you have never actually visited it... and had decided from the videos of the signs.. what is the point ! ??? :P
I think for most people who are that way inclined and who have some interest in UFOs or E.Ts being at Area 51.. that it is a big deal for them to want to visit and at least be able to say they have been to the Gates and seen the signs.. or at least see what the surrounding area is actually like. Especially as many people look on google maps / earth and wonder what it may really be like.
I think some of the images or TV programs or Videos seen of parts driving down the ET Highway or looking at the surrounding mountains when the light hits them in a certain way around Area 51 with all the hype can make it seem something special to want to visit.
In some ways ...I think it does have interesting sides to it.. but only being able to go as far as the Gates / signs overall is a disappointment and nothing special. However the journey to get there especially the 1st time one goes .. was a buzz and a form of excitement into the unknown. its also the isolation..
Visiting Tikaboo is more of a buzz and so are the back entrances and certain Roads and parts surrounding that most people never get to visit. There are some parts that are somewhat intriguing..
especially if one may be aware or have believes about certain things that they may have read or studied.
One of the Bikers appeared to step over the line ! but only just and its in an area where you don't always notice any Camos around or jeeps on the horizon..
QuoteEven Jesse Ventura didn't step over that line :P
I could see something small light colored at the right side of the hill that I thought was the moon... and maybe some black thing on the hill between two points that seemed a bit unusual..
but I would be very surprised if it was a sniper..
Quote
So what is that UFO abouve Sniper hill in that last video?
Quote from: Irene on October 20, 2016, 06:04:32 PM
The narrator is a retard.
"Whoa, dude."
"Camo dudes."
"Gnarly."
Like a five-year-old.
Pass the bud, dude. ::)
LOL..made my day!
Cheers
Le
in the movie paul,they go to msil box.i never knew there was a street light there.
Quote from: astr0144 on October 20, 2016, 09:34:01 PM
Based upon some of your comments..and knowing that you live within 100 miles from Area 51... I am suspecting that you have never actually visited it... and had decided from the videos of the signs.. what is the point ! ??? :P
Well I have been to the front gate once in winter :P Sign says no photography allowed :P Road has a new surface :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com//00temp/new_road_surface.jpg)
QuoteI think for most people who are that way inclined and who have some interest in UFOs or E.Ts being at Area 51.. that it is a big deal for them to want to visit and at least be able to say they have been to the Gates and seen the signs.. or at least see what the surrounding area is actually like. Especially as many people look on google maps / earth and wonder what it may really be like.
Well maybe :P I suppose for wanna be believers the fear and thrill is worth the trip :P A sort of MECA required initiation pilgrimage. As to what it is like out there, don't forget John had that gold mine just over the hill :D
This was taken the same year We actually had a lot of snow that year
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Mine_Photos/pict0166aty4.jpg)
There is also a nice quarry just outside of Rachel that has nice fluorescent mineral specimens... but have not seen any aliens collecting any :D
Quote from: astr0144 on October 20, 2016, 09:34:01 PM
In some ways ...I think it does have interesting sides to it.. but only being able to go as far as the Gates / signs overall is a disappointment and nothing special. However the journey to get there especially the 1st time one goes .. was a buzz and a form of excitement into the unknown. its also the isolation..
Well that is my point :P Very very few have ever gone past those signs to the actual gate. If your gonna be an adrenalin junkie and want a good story at LEAST make a run for the gate :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/00temp/bg_jan_2010.jpg)
Quote from: astr0144 on October 20, 2016, 09:34:01 PM
I could see something small light colored at the right side of the hill that I thought was the moon...
Yup that's what I am talking about Pretty small to be the moon. So what direction are they looking? Moon rises in the east and is usually a LOT bigger than that "UFO" :P
There are no snipers :P Why bother? before you can actually get past the gates they would have nailed your ass and called the Sheriff...
There is no gain to shooting people crossing a line that is only the first 'border'
besides what would happen if 50 or more people took a bus and just drove up to the gate?
::)
lol,or through it without stopping.
Quote from: robomont on October 21, 2016, 03:54:24 AM
lol,or through it without stopping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWhmxcIfLWc
I don't recall any Street Lights Robo, at the so called Famous what was classed as the BLACK mail Box...which was actually White Colored when I visited. ! I believe in its history that it was originally Black and later painted White.. and that on a few occasions that it got stolen...and that presently it is no longer there.. as it was relatively recently was taken down by the Rancher who owned it.
I don't think that I can recall seeing any sort of Street Lighting when I last visited maybe back in 2011 on the 375 Highway between Alamo and Rachel which are the nearest towns..
I also once traveled and made my first ever visit all the way from the North Tonapah end and if I recall there was very few street Lights if any after leaving Tonapah and when you enter the 375 HW all the way from the North end to Rachel.
Quote from: robomont on October 20, 2016, 11:04:52 PM
in the movie paul,they go to msil box.i never knew there was a street light there.
New signs -
(http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/screenshot.jpg)
zorgons snow photo shows a pole and light.the white mail box had red tape verticle on it for years and in paul it looks like a perfect replica or the real thing.with a street lamp above it.i suspect the farmer gave up guarding it because of the movie.just too many fans.i dont know if yall have seen paul but its a great movie of british guys hitting the ufo hotspots after leaving comiccon.im sure theres lots of tourist doing this now.they also stopped by the star trek site where kirk fought the lizard guy with the big rock.
my bad,no it dont have a light pole in zorgons pics
I have seen you post that Winter Photo a few times, but did not realise you had visited in the Snow in winter ! must have been a bit 8)...
I assume that was the main gate of Groom Lake Rd... but that only leads to the signs.. not an actual gate /Main entrance..
GLR seemed to be quite a wide but rough surfaced road..that kicks up lots of dust as you travel down it that can be seen for miles..and alerts the Camo's that someone is driving down it..
unless your saying its been resurfaced in the recent last 5 years..
If I recall there are at least two main Gates on the Rachel Side that you can get right upto..One on the main Road close to Rachel and another further North West of Rachel...probably very few ever visit..
QuoteWell I have been to the front gate once in winter :P Sign says no photography allowed :P Road has a new surface
If you try to get to the main Gate on the GLR entrance .. you would need to pass the signs and area where the Camo dudes are watching in their Vehicle on the hill.. and you would probably get arrested ..
but as I said prior you can visit the Main entrances at the Rachel side. one maybe being in the photo you posted..
QuoteWell that is my point :P Very very few have ever gone past those signs to the actual gate. If your gonna be an adrenalin junkie and want a good story at LEAST make a run for the gate :P
(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/20161020_231537_zpsemejrhjd.jpg)
supposedly hooper colorado is the new hotspot.rumor has it s1 moved the stuff to the 4 corners area.
(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/20161020_232303-1_zpsooidbzti.jpg)
just in case this tortures your mind astro.its photos off my tv from movie for reference.i trust yall more than some movie.as an outsider,this gives you an idea of what joe public thinks and sees though.
Well if its not the Moon... It would seem a surprise if its some sort of flying craft / object..
Not sure what time of day it was taken..but the time of year was in May.. but Id guess later in the afternoon... sometimes you can see the moon in the day and it would had moved around from the East if it rises in the east by later in the day time..Maybe depending what area the video was taken ..you could work out the direction they are facing.
The cast shadows should help.. the Sun is behind or to the side of the way they are facing..maybe from more the West which may suggest it is later in the day and they maybe facing South East where the Moon rose from.......If it was in the Morning... the Sun could be in the South east direction...if its from the Rachel side... that is more North of Area 51... maybe they are looking more towards the East..
Generally however later in the day the Moon would have moved around more westerly if it rose early in the day. but it may rise at differing times...from the east..maybe later in the day..
I just looked outside at the moon tonight and it is actually very high up towards the South West...but much higher up than I usually see it I think..
As that is the only entrance with the "Use of Deadly Force signs"...
they could have cameras in the hills with a automated unmanned Sniper like gun in those Hills... if it was really such a sensitive area.. but you would expect them to have had a proper gate to stop anyone if its so important..
No doubt ...if a large party arrived .. it could easily be penetrated.. there may only be a few camos around... but I would think they would call for an Helicopter if security was threatened..
there may only be the track that anyone could travel down other than trying to hide on the mountain sides...so I don't think it would be easy to just disappear and hide in that particular area.. and most would want to get to the main entrance where there maybe many more Camo Dudes or Soldiers..
QuoteYup that's what I am talking about Pretty small to be the moon. So what direction are they looking? Moon rises in the east and is usually a LOT bigger than that "UFO" :P
There are no snipers :P Why bother? before you can actually get past the gates they would have nailed your ass and called the Sheriff...
There is no gain to shooting people crossing a line that is only the first 'border'
besides what would happen if 50 or more people took a bus and just drove up to the gate?
::)
Yes I have seen parts of the Movie "Paul"... but maybe not took close notice of it..
I think maybe they did visit the Area at the mailbox..and Rachel.
but some parts I don't think were filmed around the area..(which were made out to be)
There may have been a telegraph Pole close to the Mail Box !
for the movie.. they may have created a Lamppost at the actual site when the real mail box was still there.... or they may have just done some clever make belief !..
I will have to try to watch it again to try to conclude but I can see your images of it... :)
I think the Rancher was called Steve Medlin...
I was trying to find a suitable image of the mail box from further away to try to see what is around it... Looking so far .. I cannot see any Lampposts or telegraph poles... only Large Rocks nearby it....
(http://images.summitpost.org/original/188520.jpg)
Quote from: robomont on October 21, 2016, 05:09:48 AM
zorgons snow photo shows a pole and light.the white mail box had red tape verticle on it for years and in paul it looks like a perfect replica or the real thing.with a street lamp above it.i suspect the farmer gave up guarding it because of the movie.just too many fans.i dont know if yall have seen paul but its a great movie of british guys hitting the ufo hotspots after leaving comiccon.im sure theres lots of tourist doing this now.they also stopped by the star trek site where kirk fought the lizard guy with the big rock.
Yes it maybe the in recent times the Movie "Paul" may well give the overall more modern public that perception as to what it may look like..
As in my prior post.. I tried to find a suitable further away image to
see some of the surrounding area to see if there are any sort of posts around.. this is one view that may give a better idea what it was like..
I will say on my 1st ever trip I had traveled from Death Valley to Tonapah (North of Area 51)...and intended to come back to Vegas via the 375 HW to have a quick look at what Rachel and Area 51 looked like..which I think may had been in October.. on approaching the mountains after visiting Rachel at about at about 6 am in the morning arriving to initially see it in the dark..I was on a very quick fly by visit just to have a quick look at it.. (as I was on the way back to Vegas that day to get my flight home) ... When I left Rachel just after sunrise..and was heading towards the mountains you see in the picture as you come over the hill from Rachel.... the Sun had not long risen and the sunlight was hitting the back of those mountains... and the light was incredible....and the clarity of the light and shadow cast on the mountains was absolutely amazing...never seen anything quite like it..... It was what I would describe as Dreamland..
This was the sort of view of it that I could see but with the Sun at the left to the picture sort of behind the mountains...that created a long shadow cast on the mountains..that made various individual mountains stand out more from the shafts of sunlight behind them. It was very unusual to see and you could also see down the right side down tikaboo valley...to the right side of the road..
As you approached closer to the mountains say over 5 to 10 minutes or more driving...you could see things in more detail....
(http://www.milespointsandmaitais.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_0383.jpg)
(http://expedition.toptotop.org/2014-11-20_usa-nevada_long-straight-roads-into-state-crossing-2-thumb-512x341.jpg)
one of the most amazing views and moments that I can recall..
and I have never seen any photos taken that was similar to what I saw that morning...to compare...
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3431/3954247216_4b86bba368_z.jpg?zz=1)
Quote from: robomont on October 21, 2016, 05:29:02 AM
just in case this tortures your mind astro.its photos off my tv from movie for reference.i trust yall more than some movie.as an outsider,this gives you an idea of what joe public thinks and sees though.
Back in the day when S4 was still active at Area 51 the mailbox was black and there was no light pole.
I have never seen an actual photo from the location with a light pole. But that's hollywood for ya.
I revisited mailbox road circa 2006 and the mailbox was now white, still no light pole.
(click image for sull size)
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/A51Watcher/Aliens/Black%20Mailbox_zps62m1qvui.jpg)
It brought back many memories and emotions especially how lucky I was that night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgCfh4VCeE0
I don't think that I was aware that you had revisited "Area 51" since you early 90's visit A51 ! was that in the day time only ? ..
or also into the Night to see what you may see in 2006..
Im assuming that was your only visit since.. and can imagine your memories of it...
Is that your photo of the mailbox taken at night ..if so was that from 2006 or your early 90s trip ?
QuoteI revisited mailbox road circa 2006 and the mailbox was now white, still no light pole.
QuoteIt brought back many memories and emotions especially how lucky I was that night.
I only visited at night in 2006.
That's somebody else's white mailbox photo, not mine.
One of the pieces of luck I was referring to was the piece of video above.
Even though my equipment was not sensitive enough to display the stars or the Groom mountain ridge line, and so no background reference for the craft, as you can see I did manage to catch the cammo dude and one of the craft together in the same frame on mailbox road for background reference!
What luck! 8)
Yes it was some amazing luck that you had on that early 1990s evening when you had your amazing experiences..
I cannot recall if you had prior been given a tip off that may had been the best time or day of the week to arrive..
Did you say that you had visited also earlier when it was light..or the day before to check the area out in daytime ?
When you went back on the 2006 night... what did you do ? stay around late to see if there was any further action ? or just a pass by visit on your way home ?
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 21, 2016, 07:07:33 AM
I only visited at night in 2006.
That's somebody else's white mailbox photo, not mine.
One of the pieces of luck I was referring to was the piece of video above.
Even though my equipment was not sensitive enough to display the stars or the Groom mountain ridge line, and so no background reference for the craft, as you can see I did manage to catch the cammo dude and one of the craft together in the same frame on mailbox road for background reference!
What luck! 8)
Quote from: astr0144 on October 21, 2016, 07:22:57 AM
Yes it was some amazing luck that you had on that early 1990s evening when you had your amazing experiences..
I cannot recall if you had prior been given a tip off that may had been the best time or day of the week to arrive..
Yes I had advance information on what night they tested.
Did you say that you had visited also earlier when it was light..or the day before to check the area out in daytime ?
Yes I did recon of the area first during the day.
When you went back on the 2006 night... what did you do ? stay around late to see if there was any further action ? or just a pass by visit on your way home ?
Yes I stayed around late to see if there was any action, which there was none.
One of my associates was able to get the license numbers off the cammo dude's plates in the video by deblurring the image using a frame stacking technique.
Although the plates say Nevada, Nevada DMV says no such plates were ever issued or registered by them.
I guess Area 51 has their very own DMV!
Yes I think that would have been the case.... OR they do not have any Number plate..as I dont think that you can see a number plate of the Camo Dudes truck...in the initial video that I posted for this thread..
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 21, 2016, 07:44:21 AM
One of my associates was able to get the license numbers off the cammo dude's plates in the video by deblurring the image using a frame stacking technique.
Although the plates say Nevada, Nevada DMV says no such plates were ever issued or registered by them.
I guess Area 51 has their very own DMV!
Quote from: astr0144 on October 21, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
Yes I think that would have been the case.... OR they do not have any Number plate..as I dont think that you can see a number plate of the Camo Dudes truck...in the initial video that I posted for this thread..
In Nevada you don't have to have front plates, just ones on the back.
Quote from: A51Watcher on October 21, 2016, 05:06:52 AM
New signs -
No Drones? LMAO Now who would think of sending drones in to photograph A51?
::)
And how would they stop them? Shoot them down? Would love to see them try :D
Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 11:40:34 AM
No Drones? LMAO Now who would think of sending drones in to photograph A51?
::)
And how would they stop them? Shoot them down? Would love to see them try :D
;D
Maybe they should put a sign like this too:
(http://st2.depositphotos.com/4383399/8855/v/950/depositphotos_88555230-Illustration-of-a-not-allowed.jpg)
Quote from: astr0144 on October 21, 2016, 05:47:49 AM
I think maybe they did visit the Area at the mailbox..and Rachel.
but some parts I don't think were filmed around the area..(which were made out to be)
According to IMDB, "Paul" was mostly filmed in New Mexico, no references to Nevada in the locations list.
Quote from: RUSSO on October 21, 2016, 07:22:19 PM
Maybe they should put a sign like this too:
Surely our military has jamming devises that could fry a drone miles away or aty least block the control signal?
Hmmm Jamming was already done in WWII So why are the worried about drones? I am sure they have a signal that could fry digital camers too :P
And beams that could wipe film or video tapes :P
I was not aware of that !
A51 Watcher
QuoteIn Nevada you don't have to have front plates, just ones on the back.
You are probably correct..
It was probably made up... but the part showing them in the Little Alien that is in Rachel I thought had looked quite real ..
I will have to watch it again, funny enough its on one of the Freeview TV stations now as I write..but I am watching various channels ..
But sometimes I have seen movies that do show some Film Locations that do not always get mentioned on websites that refer to where a movies Locations was filmed...
ArMaP
QuoteAccording to IMDB, "Paul" was mostly filmed in New Mexico, no references to Nevada in the locations list.
Quote from: zorgon on October 21, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Surely our military has jamming devises that could fry a drone miles away or aty least block the control signal?
So why are the worried about drones? I am sure they have a signal that could fry digital camers too :P
I think its a legal issue... They have to make the warning so you can't get the fried drone money back in a court ;)
Quote from: RUSSO on October 21, 2016, 10:32:50 PM
I think its a legal issue... They have to make the warning so you can't get the fried drone money back in a court ;)
Maybe :P But the courts don't recognize the existance of Area 51 :P
which is why i can go there any time i want.may not be able to leave though.but technically speaking,i could go in and take the place and the gov couldnt do anything because it dont exist.even murder cant be charged.because how could there be a murder if theres no body and there cant be bodies because the place dont exist to find bodies.hmm?i always wondered what they was burning in them pits?