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I was asking some Financial Stock Market Company when they thought that the result of the US Election is likely to be known.

I cannot recall the last US Election last day/s as to how long it took before it was known.

I was thinking the result would be known by Mid day on the 9th November.. as I think that the UK Election results are usually known by the next day..

But One person who I spoke with had said that some past Elections have taken 2 days or so before the final result was known.

I wondered if any of the US members can recall some egs of what happened say 5 or so  Elections in the last 20 years and what we may expect ?

Past US Election details

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election

Well, you may remember the "hanging chads" controversy during the Bush/Gore election. It took a few days.

Everything depends upon whether or not everything goes smoothly.

No Irene, being from the U.K ...I am not really well up on recalling such details.  But if say it was more than 2 days that does surprise me.

The Bush V Gore would have been in year 2000..

I think there may have been one Election where there were concerns over rigging or some errors, but I cannot recall the details just from memory at the moment..

Not sure what other issues have occurred or caused problems on other past ones.  But I thought maybe most have been known in one to two days in the last 20 years.

Quote from: Irene on November 07, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
Well, you may remember the "hanging chads" controversy during the Bush/Gore election. It took a few days.

Everything depends upon whether or not everything goes smoothly.

Quote from: astr0144 on November 07, 2016, 11:34:18 PM
The Bush V Gore would have been in year 2000..

Sh1t that makes me feel old. :-/

But relax guys, Hilary has won.  It is rigged as I'm sure you already heard. ;)

I don't usually post Alex Jones but this one is pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFODDL6lmEI

I voted a couple of weeks ago. I can't wait to see what happens. There are SO many variables in this particular election.

If Trump gets elected I believe it will blow the lid off this country.

If Clinton wins it, well, I don't even want to face what she represents.

We haven't been given much choice in the matter.

I went with the unknown quantity. What the hell have we got to lose?

LMFAO...LIVE NOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbFmOIU0pk

Quote from: Irene on November 08, 2016, 02:58:36 AM
I went with the unknown quantity. What the hell have we got to lose?

Exactly!!!

If Hillary gets in at best we have four more years of Obama politics with him in the Supreme court as well.. at worst she declares war on Russia

If trump gets in and does what he says he will, its a win win situation for America  if he doesn't we have four years of something new that cannot possibly be worse than the Criminal Network that is Hillary and Co (Soros, Bushes, Saudies, etc)  And the sex rings that include the UK and Australia

So yeah  People keep screaming we need change  but when given the chance they are afraid

How pathertic is that ?

::)

With the Fbi having just prior the Election day appearing to have cleared the Hilary Email issue... then if they are under the PTB , it may well be that could be seen as a sign of a likely rigging.

But at the same time with all the hype about it all... one would think maybe there could be ways to watch over it..but its such a huge thing, if Computers now have a lot to do with calculating it, then who knows what may go on.

At least so far No Major disasters or False Flags seem to have occurred.

This is a comment made by the Mi6 guy I follow.

Taking a photo of ones vote for a large % of the voting populace would seem unlikely and even if that occurred its too big a thing to ever try to prove anything with it I would think..

Well maybe we will know within 24 hrs..

God help us all for the best outcome !

QuoteCall me old fashioned, but would not an engineered false flag only further drum up support for Trump and therefore be counterproductive to the apparent policy of the incumbent administration in Washington? Hence there would be absolutely no point in staging one? Any which way we only have hours to go before the public en mass gets a chance to vote. Double check those votes folks, cell phone photo your vote, make sure the (Soros) machine does not switch it and demand a paper ballet if anything looks rigged. If against the mass will of the Great American people, Killery looks to blatantly steal it then Washington DC could be seeing a few angry millions of citizens. We the PEOPLE are what it is about, not maintaining the crooked elite.

Quote from: Pimander on November 08, 2016, 12:17:19 AM
Sh1t that makes me feel old. :-/

But relax guys, Hilary has won.  It is rigged as I'm sure you already heard. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbFmOIU0pk

Quote from: zorgon on November 08, 2016, 03:38:54 AM
If trump gets in and does what he says he will, its a win win situation for America  if he doesn't we have four years of something new that cannot possibly be worse than the Criminal Network that is Hillary and Co (Soros, Bushes, Saudies, etc)  And the sex rings that include the UK and Australia

That's the problem, it can always be worse.

Quote from: astr0144 on November 08, 2016, 03:47:35 AM
With the Fbi having just prior the Election day appearing to have cleared the Hilary Email issue... then if they are under the PTB , it may well be that could be seen as a sign of a likely rigging.

It was rigging.  It was an FBI guy trying to hinder Hilary's campaign.  If it only takes hours to check whether there was anything new in the emails then they could have taken a few more hours before deciding to release the information.  The information was released to hinder Clinton's campaign NOT the other way around.

QuoteGod help us all for the best outcome !

That passed us by.  Bernie Sanders didn't get the nomination. :(

Quote from: Pimander on November 08, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
That passed us by.  Bernie Sanders didn't get the nomination. :(

Col. Sanders?
BWAALOLOLOL....

Too bad Rand Paul didn't make it.... 8)
But...it is what it is....

as always they bait the potheads with false hope everytime.thats why i dont even bother to obey pot laws,they had their chance to legitimize law but instead they deligitimized law.the common thread thats been pulled out and turned our law into rags.

Just watched the UK News on ITV..

and It annoys me that they make suggestions that Hilary is likely to win..

What the polls are or have really been suggesting over the last few weeks..I assume have just been faked and I cannot see How UK News would suggest that they have a candidate in mind (Hillary) that they expect to win at the mid stage of today...  Unless there have been some large Populace  States that are believed to have already voted in Hillary's favor.  (I have not as yet observed what the votes maybe in various states as I write)

But the Eastern States Polls close at I think 18.00 hr USA Time (23.00 hrs time in the U.K)  In the UK our Voting goes on to 22.00 hrs, so I wonder why its being suggested that the US Polls close at 18.00 hrs..Or have they got that wrong !

The Western States (Other than Alaska) Close at 4  am UK time.

speculation.to generate traffic.nothing more.i would like to have 1 billionth the bandwidth wasted on this election.i would be a billionaire probably.
the only winner this election are the internet providers.and the treefiddies.i hope i helped some out, here on peggy?

If the Eastern Polls have closed,

I wonder how the Eastern Population compares to the Western States..I assume its the largest Population in the East Side of the USA..

So they will be counting those Votes and may have results before the Western States have closed... is that 3 hrs later.

(What is the Time Difference say between New York and LA)
How many time zones  between ?  is it a 3 hr difference ?

So if the Eastern Polls close at say 10.00 hrs EST New York time, (1 am UK time)

Western States in California close 3 hrs later ..which would be 1.00 EST time..  (or 4 am UK time)

being in the UK, I am not used to the Time Zones in the USA..
but I think between the East and West Coast it is 3 hrs.
but it shows 4 time Zones, ... East,Central, Mountain and Pacific.

Pacific Time Zone   PST (UTC?08:00)   PDT (UTC?07:00)
Mountain Time Zone   MST (UTC?07:00 MDT (UTC?06:00)
Central Time Zone   CST (UTC?06:00)CDT (UTC?05:00)
Eastern Time Zone   EST (UTC?05:00)   EDT (UTC?04:00)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_the_United_States

3 hours difference Astro west coast polls close at 10 pm eastern time


Seeker

Quote from: astr0144 on November 08, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Just watched the UK News on ITV..

and It annoys me that they make suggestions that Hilary is likely to win..

NYT right now:

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It seems USA is under new management :)

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Congratulations!

5,add in hawaii in aleutian time zone if it goes down to the wire.
eastern,central,mountain,pacific,aleutian.

Thank you for confirming,

Looking positive for D.T so far...

D.T = 244 v  HC =215 as I write..

Just hope that D.T can get the required 270 Votes ASAP !

unless there are other things / factors  that may have to be taken into consideration....that could boost HCs Votes...
but she could still win if she gets the last few states votes for her from what the TV just said.

HC has got most of the Western States..all on the Coastline.

If its rigged.. you never know if she may pull it off on the last minute !

May have the results before Midday with any Luck !

Alright people it is finally over  8)
I am quite sure that many things will shake and stir about over the next few weeks but I for one am tired of all the polyticks and assorted bovine feces that has been shoveled for the last year...

Now back to our regularly scheduled chaos and mayhem...

  8)

Seeker

Things may calm down over the next few days / weeks.

But its still very hard to know if Donald will be able to do the things that he suggests even with his best intentions.

I do believe if he can run the economy like he does his business than he could make America great again.

But its hard to say if or what the Globalists may have in mind..Do or can they create problems for Trump if he is against going along with their corrupt plans..or  are they just a myth ?

This is what Alex Jones is still concerned about , as am I...

Knowing that Trump has won... maybe it would seem that he should be able to keep the economy strong...

Upon seeing what happened in the Stock Market since July and today... It has been going back down and today had a huge sharp one day decline...similar to what we saw with Brexit..

The Market has since recovered back up 60 % of the initial days decline ...

BUT the Stock market back in only August , was at all time highs..
That would make one maybe consider that the economy is already strong... But many suggest that it  has been falsely held up into the Election. and that the real economy is much weaker in comparison.

I know am wondering what may happen in the next month to 6 months / year..

Alex Jones is suggesting that the Globalist may now plan to crash the Stock market. that would make Trump look bad.

This has happened back in 2008 to the UK Prime minister as he took over.. within a year the markets had collapsed severely, and he was blamed for it.. BUT when the USA Markets Collapse. so does most of the World...

I am still concerned that it may happen again in the coming weeks. and to see if the decline continues or if the market will break back above 18400 on the Dow which was the days high before it declined almost 900 points from that high today at one point it fell to 17485. I will still be bearish if the market breaks back below that level...

I have two dates in mind initially... Around Nov 18th and Dec 25th..that may prove important.

In the video, Alex Jones seems very severely  tired and worn down after all his hard campaigning for the last few months. He seems to have almost lost his voice...

Globalist To Attack Trump With Economic Collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJp6GygI92Y

CONGRATULATIONS!

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http://studentblogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/economicspg4/2016/02/15/champagne-celebration.jpg?maxWidth=500

It was rigged LOL ::)

Congratulations to Trump supporters.  Bernie fans like me lost ages ago in the part of the contest that really was rigged.  Part of me is glad we don't have Hilary and more of the same and the other part is worried about Trump's impulsive shoot from the hip mentality. :)

Lets hope that Trump sticks to his good promises and can reach out to the people he alienated during the campaign with dodgy rhetoric. I'm pretty sure he isn't going to go down the Hitler route so no more semi-fascist language and lets heal some wounds.

Just like with Brexit here (which I campaigned for), the old politics is being smashed out of the park.  For that we should be optimistic but also careful.  Change is NEEDED but the type of change is important now.

Fingers crossed about the next four years.  8)

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Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 09, 2016, 12:48:18 PM
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Lol

I just posted basically the same sentiment in another forum.

;D

Seems Hillary will slink back to her lizard cave, while Donald gets to bask in his victory..

If y'all think the last six months was crazy..just wait.

Quote from: Irene on November 09, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Lol

I just posted basically the same sentiment in another forum.

;D

I reckon even a lot of Democrats are secretly not as bothered as they should be.  Lets face facts, Hilary wasn't popular even with them.

Trump has a great chance to get a lot of people behind him if he plays his cards shrewdly.

Quote from: Pimander on November 09, 2016, 01:34:23 PM
I reckon even a lot of Democrats are secretly not as bothered as they should be.  Lets face facts, Hilary wasn't popular even with them.

Trump has a great chance to get a lot of people behind him if he plays his cards shrewdly.

OMG, the Liberal reaction is hilarious, people crying, laying on the ground, etc. One of the local woman newscasters where I live had the longest face I've ever ever seen. She was on the verge of bursting into tears for a good hour.

I admit this delighted me. I felt, I guess, a sort of sadistic pleasure that Trump dealt a blow to the politically correct madness that has enveloped the country in recent decades. I'm happy as a clam that he beat an incredibly entitled, mercenary, corrupt, lying scumbag.

Im a conservative and voted for trump in the fairly heavy liberal state of Maryland.

I knew Hillary would win Maryland and my vote would likely mean nothing even though we recently elected a republican governor

Hillary will say and do anything to get elected (obviously) and she is only after her selfish interests. Shes not concerned with the common mans plight, she only cares about going down in history as the first female president

The American people saw what she was about and came through very strong in favor of Trump. I didnt think he would win but im glad he did and its obvious that polls are complete bulls**t

I hope after he takes oath that he appoints a special prosecutor like he said and locks up the corrupt Hillary, if its even possible at this point.

The American people are waking up to the corruption that is rife in our country and my confidence in them is restored for now, theres not as many sheeple as I thought

The MSM has suffered a blow it will never completely over come.  NPR and the BBC projected Hillary as the winner.  With NO newspaper endorsements, Trump won.  The alternative media wrecked Clinton's chances.

Putin offers cooperation and dialogue     https://sputniknews.com/politics/201611091047229362-putin-congratulates-trump/

I wonder if Israel will be worried ?   Obama will leave after two terms WITH NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS, NO LEGACY.  He might think about a UN resolution about Palestine as a last ditch effort for the history books.

Quote from: Eighthman on November 09, 2016, 04:02:06 PM
Obama will leave after two terms WITH NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS, NO LEGACY.  He might think about a UN resolution about Palestine as a last ditch effort for the history books.

Oh, he had accomplishments all right...gas prices went sky high, 94 million people out of work, the national debt more than tripled, racial tensions and divisions are worse than they have been in 70 years plus the utter debacle known as affordable health care...

Yeah, he has a legacy all right  :o

Seeker

So true Seeker, 

And I don't doubt, that there are not more, "Tricks" in the bag as a parting shot. These people(what ever they are) are not going to just "quietly" go away.

But today, I'm just going to be filled with gratitude that America gets to keep its sovereignty and the people can come
together to make a difference.  :D

I'm waiting for them to come together to BUILD THE WALL!

Overheard at the water cooler:"Donald Trump: A manifestation of the American integrity."

Something else no one noticed:  did Big Political Money just get neutralized?

Trump tricked the media into giving him coverage and exploited social media to win. He didn't get newspaper endorsements and vastly under spent Hillary. The Republican party even pulled support money away from him.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/trump-redefined-us-politics-after-hillary-spent-nearly-twice-much-vote-nothing

He also may have destroyed the political establishment in both parties - as the Clinton Cabal will be dead and leading Republicans wouldn't support him.  He doesn't "owe" anyone.  Political transparency also took a huge ( y-u-u-g-e) jump as exposure exploded with wikileaks and other revelations.  Don't you wish you had stuck with Bernie, who had a clean record, Democrats?

In summary, this could be very positive.

Quote from: Pimander on November 09, 2016, 01:34:23 PM
I reckon even a lot of Democrats are secretly not as bothered as they should be.  Lets face facts, Hilary wasn't popular even with them.

Trump has a great chance to get a lot of people behind him if he plays his cards shrewdly.

I think Donald Trump has over 50 million people/voters behind him already............!!  8)

Quote from: Eighthman on November 09, 2016, 09:29:37 PM
He also may have destroyed the political establishment in both parties - as the Clinton Cabal will be dead and leading Republicans wouldn't support him.  He doesn't "owe" anyone.

I suspect that the GOP elite will get behind Trump.  The reason being that there will be a three party system if they don't and they will get screwed.  They differ with Trump on trade and stuff but they will be forced to grit their teeth and stay quiet.

QuoteDon't you wish you had stuck with Bernie, who had a clean record, Democrats?

I think Democrat members did want Bernie.  It was the party machinery that friged Bernie up.

The result might also force the Democrat elite to grit their teeth and listen to the voice of the people too.

QuoteIn summary, this could be very positive.

I agree but it depends on how "the political elite" react and whether the people keep pushing for change.  I think if people just think "We elected Trump so it's all sorted" then it will be a waste of time.  It also depends on whether Trump really has the guts to take on big business and Banking.  Talk is cheap.

Ultimately though, the political establishment has been shaken up in the UK and USA now.  Interesting times. :)

I have had a ball today. I usually shun television, but this morning and this evening I've been watching the news channels.

Oh, the BUTTHURT!

The despair is hilarious. I mean, seriously, all day people have looked to be on the verge of tears.

It. Is. HYSTERICAL!

;D ;D ;D

PS - Drudge must have partied too hard last night. His page has been static all day.

Well, I'm glad Trump won.  I didn't want a liar, treasonous, cheat as a president.  I forgot to add criminal and part of the global elite backed people.

Hillary's reaction...

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Quote from: spacemaverick on November 10, 2016, 01:03:16 AM
Well, I'm glad Trump won.  I didn't want a liar, treasonous, cheat as a president.  I forgot to add criminal and part of the global elite backed people.

I didn't want either of them.  :-\

I think of Trump as elite too.  His plans to give a tax handout to high earners and corporations sums it up for me along with his vast wealth and exploitation of cheap foreign labour.  On the other hand he has said things that people want to see happen so hopefully that will turn out better for Americans - if he can follow up on his speech yesterday and bring people together.

I'll wait and see what happens now and get back to regular Peggy topics.

ETA:  Interesting fact I found yesterday.  The Democratic Party have won the popular vote in every election bar one since 1988.

Russia's Putin, others pleased as Trump win shocks world

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/us-election-the-world-reacts/

I am flummoxed by Americans who don't understand how entangled we are with China. We are going to have to spend some time unraveling that web.

I'd like to see all trade agreements reexamined and trashed if necessary. NAFTA should die, die, die. Mexico is overrunning our border and the money those illegals earn goes right back to Mexico. It's time to drain the tit.

I'm not sure about the TPP. Seems to me it should die a violent death as well.

I've always been an isolationist. Don't know how everyone else here feels about that.

We should stop foreign aid, bring all our troops home, and rebuild our infrastructure. Mexico will pay for the wall. We'll deduct the expense of constructing it from the aid we send them.

I'm all over the map this morning. More coffee is required.   :P

I've spent the last several months learning about all of the truly horrific skeletons in Hillary's closet, courtesy of Wikileaks and /r/conspiracy.  I've believed for a long time, however, that Trump would be the lesser of two evils.  Trump has made some racist and sexist comments both publically and privately.  Hillary, on the other hand, is guilty of multiple counts of accepted bribery and outright treason.  What has always upset me, is that the degenerate Millennial Left seem to care far more about Trump's political incorrectness, than they do about Hillary's vast and genuine crimes.  Treason is apparently something that can simply be ignored in contemporary America.

Over the last ten years, the American Left have managed to almost completely destroy my faith in humanity, quite literally.  They are falsely idealistic and willfully naive at best, and vicious, authoritarian, and censorious at worst.  They hate freedom, and they prove that at every possible opportunity.  I can forgive many things; but contempt for liberty I can not.  The one thing they are most concerned about, is ensuring that no one makes any statements whatsoever that they disagree with.

So more than viewing this election result as a win for Trump, I am viewing it instead as a collective repudiation and rejection of said Left, which I think has been a long time coming.  It was predictable that the vile university Frankfurt School demographic were out in the streets, looting and burning after Hillary's defeat.  If Trump's election means anything, it will hopefully mean that the microaggressions crowd will lose social support more or less entirely.

Aside from that, I very much doubt that, one way or another, anything substantial will change.  Obama continued Bush's wars, not to mention the domestic militarisation of the police, and the erosion of civil liberty.  Trump will neither be a saviour nor the second coming of Hitler, as much as he will simply engage in more of the same.  The establishment are entrenched, and they will not tolerate anything else.

I think Hillary was not allowed to win, because of the fact that she was careless and started to make American political corruption, unacceptably obvious.  In the minds of the elite, at least, it's one thing to behave like a live-action re-enactment of Victor von Doom, but it's quite another to do so in front of cameras and in broad daylight.  Hillary was threatening to cause a total mainstream loss of confidence in the system, which in turn would have meant that the shadow men lost their authority; and they could not have that.

So Hillary has lost, and now people on Reddit are making predictably infantile statements about how they have elected a saviour.  Apparently Americans have no memory of Yes We Can, or of Bush's crooning about being a compassionate conservative; which after his election, changed to the Constitution supposedly being "just a God damned piece of paper."

"Well maybe...maybe you will win.  But nobody wins for long.  The wheel just keeps turning."
-- The Twelfth Doctor.

As another point, I just found this map of the election results, broken down by County.  Before you dispute this, realise that someone was quoted in the Wikileaks emails as saying that rigging can not account for more than around 4% of the vote, without being discovered.

(http://i.imgur.com/hWJk55W.jpg)

People are sick of false, slimy Utopianism, just like I am; when behind said facade, the only thing you ever find, are narcissistic psychopaths just trying to make money.  I saw that with Permaculture.  I saw it with Burning Man.  I saw it with the Zeitgeist Movement.  I saw it with the Transition Movement.  Show me one single movement of any kind that claims to be trying to produce positive change, and I will show you a cult with a hidden basis of money and narcissistic supply.  It is always there, without fail; and that is because despite everything they claim, nobody truly wants anything else.

Occupy and the Left are not the 99%.  They are and were barely 1%; and out in the real world, people don't want their crap any more.  We have tent cities full of people literally starving, and a massive international refugee crisis, but what most so-called progressives care about is Trump bragging about his ability to obtain easy sex.  That is why they wanted to vote for Hillary instead of him.  Never mind the fact that the Clintons assassinate people.  Trump is sexist, and that is considered unforgiveable.

We need a lot less obsession with minorities, and a lot more focus on solving real problems that genuinely matter.  The Left has been hijacked; and more than anything else, the one thing that truly grieves me about the Millennials, is their relentless stupidity.

Quote from: petrus4 on November 10, 2016, 05:56:51 PMWe have tent cities full of people literally starving, and a massive international refugee crisis, but what most so-called progressives care about is Trump bragging about his ability to obtain easy sex.  That is why they wanted to vote for Hillary instead of him.  Never mind the fact that the Clintons assassinate people.  Trump is sexist, and that is considered unforgiveable.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton also is entangled in sex related issues and the Cabal has been exposed to be involved in sex slavery rings that include UK and Australia...  Thta is likely one main factor that took down Hillary  On the one hand you have Donald the Playboy, on the other hand you have rape, pedophilia and your god only knows what else

But then  the biggest problem is people like THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEzCFgltYuY

I think we need to change voting rules :P You must be able to pass an inteligence test before being allowed to vote :P  Make your choice yes, but you have to know what the stakes are first

::)

Quote from: petrus4 on November 10, 2016, 05:32:19 PM
I've spent the last several months learning about all of the truly horrific skeletons in Hillary's closet, courtesy of Wikileaks and /r/conspiracy.  I've believed for a long time, however, that Trump would be the lesser of two evils.

And he is.

Quote
What has always upset me, is that the degenerate Millennial Left seem to care far more about Trump's political incorrectness, than they do about Hillary's vast and genuine crimes.  Treason is apparently something that can simply be ignored in contemporary America.

And that should be taken as the BOLD revelation about what seems to be your question in here. There is absolutely no ignorance about her crimes at all, what happens here is the crystal clear biased protection of the "cosa nostra".

QuoteOver the last ten years, the American Left have managed to almost completely destroy my faith in humanity, quite literally.  They are falsely idealistic and willfully naive at best, and vicious, authoritarian, and censorious at worst.  They hate freedom, and they prove that at every possible opportunity.  I can forgive many things; but contempt for liberty I can not.  The one thing they are most concerned about, is ensuring that no one makes any statements whatsoever that they disagree with.

I dont think they hate freedon(as it is hard to hate something you appreciate have, like money). What they really hate is the lack of control, or the possibility of lose the strings they pull. Funny thing they are calling Trump fascist, well, not so funny as it was an expected move imo.

QuoteSo more than viewing this election result as a win for Trump, I am viewing it instead as a collective repudiation and rejection of said Left, which I think has been a long time coming.

I believe that this is what all specialized MSM is saying that happened. My take is that people had enought of the politically correct speach(that is IMO  a weapon to silence, shame, and destabilize), wich despite being relatively recent, feels like old, tired and sometimes really disgusting laying in the "shoulders" of the people.

QuoteDonald Trump Is Elected President in Stunning Repudiation of the Establishment

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-president.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-president.html?_r=0)

QuoteIt was predictable that the vile university Frankfurt School demographic were out in the streets, looting and burning after Hillary's defeat.  If Trump's election means anything, it will hopefully mean that the microaggressions crowd will lose social support more or less entirely.

Critical Theory has become the first weapon of leftists in their everyday attack on authority and norms. Its like if it is imposed to society suicidal tendencies toward poisonous self censorship and in this way males are oppressive to women just for being male. Whites are oppressive just for being white. And so on.

Trump seems to be a big hit in this victimhood movement.

Quoteas much as he will simply engage in more of the same

Judging by the cry and revolt of the mass media, I think they are at least, a bit concerned.

QuoteI think Hillary was not allowed to win, because of the fact that she was careless and started to make American political corruption, unacceptably obvious. In the minds of the elite, at least, it's one thing to behave like a live-action re-enactment of Victor von Doom, but it's quite another to do so in front of cameras and in broad daylight.  Hillary was threatening to cause a total mainstream loss of confidence in the system, which in turn would have meant that the shadow men lost their authority; and they could not have that.

I like this answer more:

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Underestimating is the first step in becoming irrelevant.

QuoteSo Hillary has lost, and now people on Reddit are making predictably infantile statements about how they have elected a saviour.

I think this can be explained by the fact that our society is guided by Christian thought(to be fair i think its a global issue) that it takes the rise of a messiah to save the people, when they just prove that the real power is on their on hands. Go figure.

Quote from: petrus4 on November 10, 2016, 05:56:51 PM
As another point, I just found this map of the election results, broken down by County.  Before you dispute this, realise that someone was quoted in the Wikileaks emails as saying that rigging can not account for more than around 4% of the vote, without being discovered.

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That map sure does not represents the country division MSM is trying to make everyone believe. I think they're planning  something nefarious as they are trying so hard to encourage riots and mayhem.

Her rhetoric is borderline ridiculous ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NdClqrGq0I

QuoteRachel Maddow makes the case that American citizens who feel that the foundations of American civic life are threatened by the presidency of Donald Trump have a to-do list to protect those foundations through participation in civic groups.

And this just one day after the election.

And so it BEGINS

With Attorney General Lynch on the way out, she won't be able to tell the FBI to hold off. And with her pleading the 5th on the Iran thing, she may well be looked at herself once out of office..

He was one of the most respected intel officers of his generation. Now he's leading 'Lock her up' chants.

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Washington Post Nation Security

QuoteIn campaign appearances for Donald Trump, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn has cast the presidential race as a continuation of the career he spent battling dangerous enemies in distant wars.

"The enemy camp in this case is Hillary Rodham Clinton," he said at a rally in Florida this month, pointing his thumbs down in disgust. "This is a person who does not know the difference between a lie and the truth. .?.?. She is somebody who will leave Americans behind on the battlefield."

As chants of "Lock her up!" rose from the crowd, Flynn nodded with enthusiasm and said he was "so proud, standing up here, to be an American."

[The GOP's new convention theme: 'Lock her up!']

It was a jarring moment in a race full of them — a retired three-star general comparing a presidential candidate to the al-Qaeda militants he faced in Afghanistan and Iraq, calling for a former senator and secretary of state to be imprisoned.

The appearance was only the latest eyebrow-raising episode involving Flynn, 56, who was one of the most respected military intelligence officers of his generation but who has spurned the decorum traditionally expected of retired U.S. flag officers and become the only national security figure of his rank and experience to publicly align himself with Trump, the Republican nominee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nearly-the-entire-national-security-establishment-has-rejected-trumpexcept-for-this-man/2016/08/15/d5072d96-5e4b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html

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Remember THIS fellow?

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Quote from: zorgon on November 10, 2016, 07:52:39 PM

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Not really, It's a short called "Trumptastic Voyage", it was released online only on July 7, 2015.

Trumptastic Voyage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz7_JP7ROvA

So I think the animation of Trump in the escalator was made after the his real video was aired.

As for predicting the electoral map, that image has nothing to do with Trump.

The image comes from a 2012 video in which Mr. Burns "endorsed" Mitt Romney episode.

The link below shows the exact moment the map shows up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=ltCIEbLMaQg

But yes.. the map is interesting stuff even if it has no conection with the Trump election. :)

Quote from: zorgon on November 10, 2016, 07:52:39 PM
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Yes, they predicted that Trump would be president, and that Lisa Simpson will be the next president, after Trump left the country broke. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtparSnQhFc

On a quick 1st browse since D.T got elected ...Seems some very interesting comments made by all .. Not read all comments in depth detail as yet.

I am wondering what May President  Trump  do in ref to the issues with his comments that he made about the Corruption issues with Hillary. and what the P.T.B may be also considering as to how they have to deal with it all if he continued to take action against the corruption that now doubt is is aware about.. OR is he still part of it all.

Trump was good / gracious in Victory and praised his opponent Hillary...appearing back Friends with her as we had seen in photos from their past together when they seemed to have no issues against each other..

I wonder if now he has won if he may well forgive and forget and take no action against her...

(There MAY be a Good Valid reason why that I have been made aware about..but I don't want to post on a public forum.)

Can anyone explain this slight possibility in the article below ?

It suggested that Hilary infact got 200,000 more popular Votes than D.T.. but he got more Electoral votes..

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The one scenario that could still get Hillary into the White House

For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won't have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.

Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton's 228.

According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.

However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.

There's even a name for it: becoming a "faithless elector."

The idea of electors reversing their vote is rarely discussed — and was most recently bandied about after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore. And electors going "faithless" is exceedingly rare.

Well over 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.

It does happen, though.

The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry's running mate, John Edwards.

The rogue's vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes, more than enough to ensure his reelection.

Faithless electors are technically barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.

But given the high dissatisfaction with Trump among Republicans, a few faithless GOP electors could well go rogue next month.


InsideGov | Graphiq
One Texas GOP elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, a firefighter, told Politico in August that he finds Trump so unpalatable he'd consider voting for Clinton when he gets to Georgia's capital on Dec. 19th.

Baoky Vu, a Decatur businessman, told the Atlanta-based news site AJC.com in August that he couldn't stomach voting for Trump either, and was quietly convinced by local GOP leaders to resign as an elector.

Clinton would need more than 20 GOP electors to go rogue and vote instead for her — a mighty tall order.

Even then, the new, Republican-controlled Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.

The Founding Fathers created the electoral college because the were "afraid of direct Democracy," according to FactCheck.org.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton thought the electors would make sure "the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."

It remains to be seen, given Tuesday's surprise election result, whether Democrats — and even some Republicans — who question the "requisite qualifications" of president-elect Donald Trump will push to revisit the Electoral College system.

This video, produced before the election, explains how and why the Electoral College works:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/

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White House open to a Clinton pardon.

The White House isn't ruling out the possibility of Hillary Clinton receiving a last-minute pardon from President Obama — even though she hasn't been charged with a crime.

Asked at Wednesday's press briefing whether Obama had considered utilizing his unique executive power, press secretary Josh Earnest was cryptic.

"The president has offered clemency to a substantial number of Americans who were previously serving time in federal prisons," Earnest said.

"And we didn't talk in advance about the president's plans to offer clemency to any of those individuals and that's because we don't talk about the president's thinking, particularly with respect to any specific cases that may apply to pardons or commutations," he added.


Clinton has been embroiled in a lengthy FBI investigation into her private email server.

There are also reports that the feds are investigating the Clinton Foundation.

No charges have been filed against Clinton.

But when President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, in 1974, it was for any crimes Nixon might have committed against the US while he was president.

Ford justified his decision by claiming that a long, drawn-out trial would only have further polarized the nation.

During the presidential campaign, President-elect Donald Trump said he'd appoint a "special prosecutor" to handle the matter — and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway suggested Wednesday the matter was still on the table.



http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/white-house-open-to-a-clinton-pardon/

In the last weeks before the election TRUMP rallies were pulling in 20 to 50,000 people while Hillary was manage 100's to 2000ish. Bill Clinton got 14 in Ohio and Kaine got 3 in Florida

I am willing to bet that Hillary only got that "popular vote" by hook and by crook. The numbers don't match the reality we saw in the rallies


I'm a Muslim, a woman and an immigrant. I voted for Trump.

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Quotesra Q. Nomani is a former Wall Street Journal reporter and a co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement. She can be found on Twitter at @AsraNomani.

A lot is being said now about the "silent secret Trump supporters."

This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman "of color" — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I'm not a "bigot," "racist," "chauvinist" or "white supremacist," as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some "whitelash."

In the winter of 2008, as a lifelong liberal and proud daughter of West Virginia, a state born on the correct side of history on slavery, I moved to historically conservative Virginia only because the state had helped elect Barack Obama as the first African American president of the United States.

But, then, for much of this past year, I have kept my electoral preference secret: I was leaning toward Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Tuesday evening, just minutes before the polls closed at Forestville Elementary School in mostly Democratic Fairfax County, I slipped between the cardboard partitions in the polling booth, a pen balanced carefully between my fingers, to mark my ballot for president, coloring in the circle beside the names of Trump and his running mate, Mike Pence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/

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Liberals at their best  :P

VIDEO: Democrat Defecates in Public, Picks It Up, Wipes it on Trump Sign

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QuoteThis is evil. Pure evil and that is what we are dealing with and that is what we are up against – the hatred of the good for being the good.

Trump protestor drops her pants, craps, PICKS IT UP, and then wipes it on a Trump sign. This is what were dealing with now.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/11/democrat-defecates-public-on-trump-sign.html/

Sore losers too stupid to know their own leader doesn't care...

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Anti-Trump demonstrations hit second day; Portland police say protest is 'riot'

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTakqNZ6Aps

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You would think there was a wic cheese stand setup down there somewhere.....or they are giving away free thin framed black glasses...

Sad really, unproductive. fighting a lost battle, making general asses of themselves, and effectively doing more harm than good in the overall scheme of things.

Dont say.."ooooh its a revolution" because it isnt, its a bunch of folks who have been mollycoddled and spoon fed their whole lives, and it is just them crying from the crib about how their mobile fell on their heads.

Trump wont fix it...WE will, and until these folks understand what WE means, they will be doomed to emotional moodswings, triggered safe space nightmares, and disappointment at every turn.

Fools.

Cheers...tentatively...
Le

Quote from: zorgon on November 11, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
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Ha ha ha I like it!  8)

Seeker

I am stunned by the "Poop Lady". That's what apes do.

I also heard that the Obama's refused to participate in the traditional portrait of the incoming and outgoing presidents and their wives.

Incredible childishness on the entire Left.

Boohoo, our corrupt-a** candidate didn't win, so we're going to throw a collective tantrum.

I've never seen anything like it. The FFs are spinning in their graves.

Would Democrats like Trump to be the last President of the US?  We already have nullification of Federal law ( marijuana) If division isn't healed, that's the outcome - either outright secession or just ungovernability.

If it comes to that, I can guarantee that the North won't fight for Union.  The 'snowflakes' who would be needed for soldiery won't do it.

Just back home , and I can just say :

Congrats , CHAMPAGNE !!!

Here in France we are looking for some sort of Donald
but only having that disaster  :   " François " , shame on him .

Best regards

Guerande

Quote from: guerande on November 11, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Here in France we are looking for some sort of Donald
but only having that disaster  :   " François " , shame on him .

Careful what you wish for.  you could well get Marine Le Pen.

Marine Le Pen is the President of the National Front (an ultra-right National Conservative organisation).  They claim they have kicked the neo-fascists out of the party.  However Le Pen is a Nationalist and Socialist.... Sound familiar?

QuotePapa Le Pen comes from a French ultra-right tradition which existed long before Nazism and fascism; he is an anti-Semitic social conservative and an anti-government populist.

His daughter is both a "nationalist" (anti-European, anti-immigrant) and de facto a "socialist" (trade barriers and subsidies for industry; a higher minimum age; and a reduction of the retirement age to 60). She is also, as a double divorcee, socially liberal. She supports abortion and some gay rights. Many of the ambitious young men who surround her are openly homosexual.

On one level, this can be dismissed as a ragbag of policies and attitudes designed to appeal to every grievance and frustration in a country which has been spinning its wheels for four decades. Ms Le Pen has skilfully exploited the anger of a blue-collar and provincial middle-class electorate which berates politicians and demands "change" but refuses most specific changes. On the other hand, "nationalism" and "socialism" combined have a dark history, whatever Ms Le Pen may say. To that extent, the "Mariniste" FN is more authentically fascist – even if "fascist lite" – than her father's party was.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/why-we-should-be-scared-of-marine-le-pens-front-national-a6765751.html

Why we should be scared of Marine Le Pen's Front National

It has repackaged some of the most destructive and sweetly persuasive ideas of the hard right – xenophobia, protectionism, authoritarianism – into a seemingly modern programme for office
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"Xenophobia, protectionism, authoritarianism"...  Sounds a lot like Trump's manifesto.

Podesta and the UFO deal...

Well Grant Cameron blocked me on FB  Lol  His last comment to me was that Hillary was winning in New Hampshire when the first results were coming in and he implied that because CNN uses that as a predictor that she would win...

When she lost I was blocked :P

Grant has been pushing hard for Podesta  who promised he would get Hillary to make UFO disclosure a priority. When asked how he was sure he replied "Because she promised me she would"

::)

Well then along come Wikileaks and suddenly Podesta is in the middle of an international pedophilia ring

Quote#PodestasPizza Look it up. "hotdog", "pizza", "cheese", "sauce", "walnut". Pedo code words. (I'm not going to Google them for fear of my own good name) but there are people out there right now who have cracked and are cracking the sick codes in some of John Podesta's emails. Code words KNOWN to be used by pedos everywhere. Someone needs to lock up this beast, and fast! So HRC voters think it's all nice and cozy that this evil demon chief-of-staff would have been "top dog" in the White House? Want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes? Look further on from this pedophile satanist. He's just the beginning! Why do you think all those emails and equipment were destroyed? The "rabbit hole" goes in many directions once in the underworld!

So... I leave it at that  I am sure there is a real can of worms in this considering that the government pedophilia ring is world wide. We have seen the reports from the UK and a friend in Australia tells me they are having the same issue

Massive pedophile ring busted; 230 kids saved - US news - Crime .
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/massive-online-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/

http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/satanic-pedophilia-network-exposed-australia/


So NO DISCLOSURE at least not from the Podesta/Hillary camp... (not that I believed they ever would)

Quote from: Littleenki on November 11, 2016, 01:23:56 PM
Dont say.."ooooh its a revolution" because it isnt, its a bunch of folks who have been mollycoddled and spoon fed their whole lives, and it is just them crying from the crib about how their mobile fell on their heads.

Here is an interesting post from FB

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QuoteRobert Headley
8 hrs ·
LAST POLO-TIC POST -FROM FEED( HAVE A GREAT-DAY FOLKS)
This is what you are going to use against the Trumps? Really liberals?! Omfg. Years and years of "free the nipple" and this offends you? You are offended that the first lady has taken a nude photoshoot, and you're a friging liberal?! If you're pissed about the hypocrisy of her being naked, and him running as a Republican... guess what, he's a friging independent/democrat nationalist. He's not a republican. What should offend you, is that your reign of holier than thou bullpoop sparked some serious backlash, enough to cause this to happen. Donald Trump is our president because that many people were fed up with the excrutiating amount of impossible political correctness that liberals shove down everyone's throats. How easy would it have been for a democrat to win, had they had the humility to actually unite the nation, instead of calling half of its population, deplorable s? Keep calling her a whore, a slut, disgusting, and talk about her like she's scum while claiming to be for women's liberation and removing censorship of our natural form, you unfathomably misguided dippoops.

Here is the CQ Magazine photoshoot

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-melania-trump-knauss-first-lady-erections

Quote from: Eighthman on November 11, 2016, 03:49:39 PM
Would Democrats like Trump to be the last President of the US?  We already have nullification of Federal law ( marijuana) If division isn't healed, that's the outcome - either outright secession or just ungovernability.

Well Trump did say he was going to give more power back to the States

The nullification is one step... the states KNOW they can make a fortune in taxes on marijauna AND not have to spend billions on law enforcement, court costs and prisons for what is really a non crime.  Cops will take some time to adjust LOL California was always short of money  This will fix that very quickly. Nevada has done it too  We already have no state income tax because of the Casinos. With this added revenue we are going to be doing very well

Then you have the Bundy situation...  It was funny but just BEFORE the Bundy ranch thing I had commented that living in Nevada was great because we are a true Maverick State and don't let the Feds push us around...

Well then the 200 plus hired Blackberry Goons came  and I said "oh crap"  But lo and behold  along come the Oath keeprs from several states and the goons stood down and went home without a shot fired...

Then we get the Oregon situation... The Bundy's again....  Well they were finally arrested but within a few short months a Jury found them NOT GUILTY as they were exercising their right to protest government take over

So then we get this messy election and we find out that Hillary had sold Uranium rights to the Russian, despite the fact she was poking the stick at Russia blaming them for her woes and rattling the nuclear war saber.  And that Uranium deal... part of it was the uranium that is under the Hammond ranch in oregon


So  thank whatever dieties you wish  that Trump won and the people saw through all the bullshit.

Now us rockhounds may get our digging rights back too because you can bet that the prospector organizations will be on this