US Election 2016 result

[thorfourwinds]

A perfect time and place for this message.   

[petrus4]

I've spent the last several months learning about all of the truly horrific skeletons in Hillary's closet, courtesy of Wikileaks and /r/conspiracy.  I've believed for a long time, however, that Trump would be the lesser of two evils.  Trump has made some racist and sexist comments both publically and privately.  Hillary, on the other hand, is guilty of multiple counts of accepted bribery and outright treason.  What has always upset me, is that the degenerate Millennial Left seem to care far more about Trump's political incorrectness, than they do about Hillary's vast and genuine crimes.  Treason is apparently something that can simply be ignored in contemporary America.

Over the last ten years, the American Left have managed to almost completely destroy my faith in humanity, quite literally.  They are falsely idealistic and willfully naive at best, and vicious, authoritarian, and censorious at worst.  They hate freedom, and they prove that at every possible opportunity.  I can forgive many things; but contempt for liberty I can not.  The one thing they are most concerned about, is ensuring that no one makes any statements whatsoever that they disagree with.

So more than viewing this election result as a win for Trump, I am viewing it instead as a collective repudiation and rejection of said Left, which I think has been a long time coming.  It was predictable that the vile university Frankfurt School demographic were out in the streets, looting and burning after Hillary's defeat.  If Trump's election means anything, it will hopefully mean that the microaggressions crowd will lose social support more or less entirely.

Aside from that, I very much doubt that, one way or another, anything substantial will change.  Obama continued Bush's wars, not to mention the domestic militarisation of the police, and the erosion of civil liberty.  Trump will neither be a saviour nor the second coming of Hitler, as much as he will simply engage in more of the same.  The establishment are entrenched, and they will not tolerate anything else.

I think Hillary was not allowed to win, because of the fact that she was careless and started to make American political corruption, unacceptably obvious.  In the minds of the elite, at least, it's one thing to behave like a live-action re-enactment of Victor von Doom, but it's quite another to do so in front of cameras and in broad daylight.  Hillary was threatening to cause a total mainstream loss of confidence in the system, which in turn would have meant that the shadow men lost their authority; and they could not have that.

So Hillary has lost, and now people on Reddit are making predictably infantile statements about how they have elected a saviour.  Apparently Americans have no memory of Yes We Can, or of Bush's crooning about being a compassionate conservative; which after his election, changed to the Constitution supposedly being "just a God damned piece of paper."

"Well maybe...maybe you will win.  But nobody wins for long.  The wheel just keeps turning."
-- The Twelfth Doctor.

[petrus4]

As another point, I just found this map of the election results, broken down by County.  Before you dispute this, realise that someone was quoted in the Wikileaks emails as saying that rigging can not account for more than around 4% of the vote, without being discovered.



People are sick of false, slimy Utopianism, just like I am; when behind said facade, the only thing you ever find, are narcissistic psychopaths just trying to make money.  I saw that with Permaculture.  I saw it with Burning Man.  I saw it with the Zeitgeist Movement.  I saw it with the Transition Movement.  Show me one single movement of any kind that claims to be trying to produce positive change, and I will show you a cult with a hidden basis of money and narcissistic supply.  It is always there, without fail; and that is because despite everything they claim, nobody truly wants anything else.

Occupy and the Left are not the 99%.  They are and were barely 1%; and out in the real world, people don't want their crap any more.  We have tent cities full of people literally starving, and a massive international refugee crisis, but what most so-called progressives care about is Trump bragging about his ability to obtain easy sex.  That is why they wanted to vote for Hillary instead of him.  Never mind the fact that the Clintons assassinate people.  Trump is sexist, and that is considered unforgiveable.

We need a lot less obsession with minorities, and a lot more focus on solving real problems that genuinely matter.  The Left has been hijacked; and more than anything else, the one thing that truly grieves me about the Millennials, is their relentless stupidity.

[zorgon]

We have tent cities full of people literally starving, and a massive international refugee crisis, but what most so-called progressives care about is Trump bragging about his ability to obtain easy sex.  That is why they wanted to vote for Hillary instead of him.  Never mind the fact that the Clintons assassinate people.  Trump is sexist, and that is considered unforgiveable.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton also is entangled in sex related issues and the Cabal has been exposed to be involved in sex slavery rings that include UK and Australia...  Thta is likely one main factor that took down Hillary  On the one hand you have Donald the Playboy, on the other hand you have rape, pedophilia and your god only knows what else

But then  the biggest problem is people like THIS



I think we need to change voting rules You must be able to pass an inteligence test before being allowed to vote   Make your choice yes, but you have to know what the stakes are first

[RUSSO]

I've spent the last several months learning about all of the truly horrific skeletons in Hillary's closet, courtesy of Wikileaks and /r/conspiracy.  I've believed for a long time, however, that Trump would be the lesser of two evils.

And he is.

What has always upset me, is that the degenerate Millennial Left seem to care far more about Trump's political incorrectness, than they do about Hillary's vast and genuine crimes.  Treason is apparently something that can simply be ignored in contemporary America.

And that should be taken as the BOLD revelation about what seems to be your question in here. There is absolutely no ignorance about her crimes at all, what happens here is the crystal clear biased protection of the "cosa nostra".

Over the last ten years, the American Left have managed to almost completely destroy my faith in humanity, quite literally.  They are falsely idealistic and willfully naive at best, and vicious, authoritarian, and censorious at worst.  They hate freedom, and they prove that at every possible opportunity.  I can forgive many things; but contempt for liberty I can not.  The one thing they are most concerned about, is ensuring that no one makes any statements whatsoever that they disagree with.

I dont think they hate freedon(as it is hard to hate something you appreciate have, like money). What they really hate is the lack of control, or the possibility of lose the strings they pull. Funny thing they are calling Trump fascist, well, not so funny as it was an expected move imo.

So more than viewing this election result as a win for Trump, I am viewing it instead as a collective repudiation and rejection of said Left, which I think has been a long time coming.

I believe that this is what all specialized MSM is saying that happened. My take is that people had enought of the politically correct speach(that is IMO  a weapon to silence, shame, and destabilize), wich despite being relatively recent, feels like old, tired and sometimes really disgusting laying in the "shoulders" of the people.

Donald Trump Is Elected President in Stunning Repudiation of the Establishment

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-president.html?_r=0

It was predictable that the vile university Frankfurt School demographic were out in the streets, looting and burning after Hillary's defeat.  If Trump's election means anything, it will hopefully mean that the microaggressions crowd will lose social support more or less entirely.

Critical Theory has become the first weapon of leftists in their everyday attack on authority and norms. Its like if it is imposed to society suicidal tendencies toward poisonous self censorship and in this way males are oppressive to women just for being male. Whites are oppressive just for being white. And so on.

Trump seems to be a big hit in this victimhood movement.

as much as he will simply engage in more of the same

Judging by the cry and revolt of the mass media, I think they are at least, a bit concerned.

I think Hillary was not allowed to win, because of the fact that she was careless and started to make American political corruption, unacceptably obvious. In the minds of the elite, at least, it's one thing to behave like a live-action re-enactment of Victor von Doom, but it's quite another to do so in front of cameras and in broad daylight.  Hillary was threatening to cause a total mainstream loss of confidence in the system, which in turn would have meant that the shadow men lost their authority; and they could not have that.

I like this answer more:



Underestimating is the first step in becoming irrelevant.

So Hillary has lost, and now people on Reddit are making predictably infantile statements about how they have elected a saviour.

I think this can be explained by the fact that our society is guided by Christian thought(to be fair i think its a global issue) that it takes the rise of a messiah to save the people, when they just prove that the real power is on their on hands. Go figure.

[RUSSO]

As another point, I just found this map of the election results, broken down by County.  Before you dispute this, realise that someone was quoted in the Wikileaks emails as saying that rigging can not account for more than around 4% of the vote, without being discovered.

That map sure does not represents the country division MSM is trying to make everyone believe. I think they're planning  something nefarious as they are trying so hard to encourage riots and mayhem.

Her rhetoric is borderline ridiculous

Rachel Maddow makes the case that American citizens who feel that the foundations of American civic life are threatened by the presidency of Donald Trump have a to-do list to protect those foundations through participation in civic groups.

And this just one day after the election.

[zorgon]

And so it BEGINS

With Attorney General Lynch on the way out, she won't be able to tell the FBI to hold off. And with her pleading the 5th on the Iran thing, she may well be looked at herself once out of office..

He was one of the most respected intel officers of his generation. Now he's leading 'Lock her up' chants.



Washington Post Nation Security

In campaign appearances for Donald Trump, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn has cast the presidential race as a continuation of the career he spent battling dangerous enemies in distant wars.

"The enemy camp in this case is Hillary Rodham Clinton," he said at a rally in Florida this month, pointing his thumbs down in disgust. "This is a person who does not know the difference between a lie and the truth. .?.?. She is somebody who will leave Americans behind on the battlefield."

As chants of "Lock her up!" rose from the crowd, Flynn nodded with enthusiasm and said he was "so proud, standing up here, to be an American."

[The GOP's new convention theme: 'Lock her up!']

It was a jarring moment in a race full of them — a retired three-star general comparing a presidential candidate to the al-Qaeda militants he faced in Afghanistan and Iraq, calling for a former senator and secretary of state to be imprisoned.

The appearance was only the latest eyebrow-raising episode involving Flynn, 56, who was one of the most respected military intelligence officers of his generation but who has spurned the decorum traditionally expected of retired U.S. flag officers and become the only national security figure of his rank and experience to publicly align himself with Trump, the Republican nominee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nearly-the-entire-national-security-establishment-has-rejected-trumpexcept-for-this-man/2016/08/15/d5072d96-5e4b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html

[zorgon]

Remember THIS fellow?

[zorgon]

[RUSSO]

Not really, It's a short called "Trumptastic Voyage", it was released online only on July 7, 2015.

Trumptastic Voyage


So I think the animation of Trump in the escalator was made after the his real video was aired.

As for predicting the electoral map, that image has nothing to do with Trump.

The image comes from a 2012 video in which Mr. Burns "endorsed" Mitt Romney episode.

The link below shows the exact moment the map shows up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=ltCIEbLMaQg

But yes.. the map is interesting stuff even if it has no conection with the Trump election.

[ArMaP]

Yes, they predicted that Trump would be president, and that Lisa Simpson will be the next president, after Trump left the country broke.

[astr0144]

On a quick 1st browse since D.T got elected ...Seems some very interesting comments made by all .. Not read all comments in depth detail as yet.

I am wondering what May President  Trump  do in ref to the issues with his comments that he made about the Corruption issues with Hillary. and what the P.T.B may be also considering as to how they have to deal with it all if he continued to take action against the corruption that now doubt is is aware about.. OR is he still part of it all.

Trump was good / gracious in Victory and praised his opponent Hillary...appearing back Friends with her as we had seen in photos from their past together when they seemed to have no issues against each other..

I wonder if now he has won if he may well forgive and forget and take no action against her...

(There MAY be a Good Valid reason why that I have been made aware about..but I don't want to post on a public forum.)

Can anyone explain this slight possibility in the article below ?

It suggested that Hilary infact got 200,000 more popular Votes than D.T.. but he got more Electoral votes..

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The one scenario that could still get Hillary into the White House

For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won't have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.

Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton's 228.

According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.

However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.

There's even a name for it: becoming a "faithless elector."

The idea of electors reversing their vote is rarely discussed — and was most recently bandied about after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore. And electors going "faithless" is exceedingly rare.

Well over 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.

It does happen, though.

The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry's running mate, John Edwards.

The rogue's vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes, more than enough to ensure his reelection.

Faithless electors are technically barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.

But given the high dissatisfaction with Trump among Republicans, a few faithless GOP electors could well go rogue next month.


InsideGov | Graphiq
One Texas GOP elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, a firefighter, told Politico in August that he finds Trump so unpalatable he'd consider voting for Clinton when he gets to Georgia's capital on Dec. 19th.

Baoky Vu, a Decatur businessman, told the Atlanta-based news site AJC.com in August that he couldn't stomach voting for Trump either, and was quietly convinced by local GOP leaders to resign as an elector.

Clinton would need more than 20 GOP electors to go rogue and vote instead for her — a mighty tall order.

Even then, the new, Republican-controlled Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.

The Founding Fathers created the electoral college because the were "afraid of direct Democracy," according to FactCheck.org.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton thought the electors would make sure "the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."

It remains to be seen, given Tuesday's surprise election result, whether Democrats — and even some Republicans — who question the "requisite qualifications" of president-elect Donald Trump will push to revisit the Electoral College system.

This video, produced before the election, explains how and why the Electoral College works:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/

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White House open to a Clinton pardon.

The White House isn't ruling out the possibility of Hillary Clinton receiving a last-minute pardon from President Obama — even though she hasn't been charged with a crime.

Asked at Wednesday's press briefing whether Obama had considered utilizing his unique executive power, press secretary Josh Earnest was cryptic.

"The president has offered clemency to a substantial number of Americans who were previously serving time in federal prisons," Earnest said.

"And we didn't talk in advance about the president's plans to offer clemency to any of those individuals and that's because we don't talk about the president's thinking, particularly with respect to any specific cases that may apply to pardons or commutations," he added.


Clinton has been embroiled in a lengthy FBI investigation into her private email server.

There are also reports that the feds are investigating the Clinton Foundation.

No charges have been filed against Clinton.

But when President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, in 1974, it was for any crimes Nixon might have committed against the US while he was president.

Ford justified his decision by claiming that a long, drawn-out trial would only have further polarized the nation.

During the presidential campaign, President-elect Donald Trump said he'd appoint a "special prosecutor" to handle the matter — and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway suggested Wednesday the matter was still on the table.



http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/white-house-open-to-a-clinton-pardon/

[zorgon]

In the last weeks before the election TRUMP rallies were pulling in 20 to 50,000 people while Hillary was manage 100's to 2000ish. Bill Clinton got 14 in Ohio and Kaine got 3 in Florida

I am willing to bet that Hillary only got that "popular vote" by hook and by crook. The numbers don't match the reality we saw in the rallies


I'm a Muslim, a woman and an immigrant. I voted for Trump.

sra Q. Nomani is a former Wall Street Journal reporter and a co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement. She can be found on Twitter at @AsraNomani.

A lot is being said now about the "silent secret Trump supporters."

This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman "of color" — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I'm not a "bigot," "racist," "chauvinist" or "white supremacist," as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some "whitelash."

In the winter of 2008, as a lifelong liberal and proud daughter of West Virginia, a state born on the correct side of history on slavery, I moved to historically conservative Virginia only because the state had helped elect Barack Obama as the first African American president of the United States.

But, then, for much of this past year, I have kept my electoral preference secret: I was leaning toward Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Tuesday evening, just minutes before the polls closed at Forestville Elementary School in mostly Democratic Fairfax County, I slipped between the cardboard partitions in the polling booth, a pen balanced carefully between my fingers, to mark my ballot for president, coloring in the circle beside the names of Trump and his running mate, Mike Pence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/

[zorgon]

[zorgon]

Liberals at their best 

VIDEO: Democrat Defecates in Public, Picks It Up, Wipes it on Trump Sign

This is evil. Pure evil and that is what we are dealing with and that is what we are up against – the hatred of the good for being the good.

Trump protestor drops her pants, craps, PICKS IT UP, and then wipes it on a Trump sign. This is what were dealing with now.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/11/democrat-defecates-public-on-trump-sign.html/