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Started by PLAYSWITHMACHINES, July 13, 2012, 01:25:36 AM

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zorgon

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 22, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Brilliant.

We make the 'A' team look like girl guides
;D ;D ;D

Well Pegasus appreciates all you inventors that will be purchasing their LN tanks...



Amazon------>

But seriously... to get any real work done, at some point we would need that evil word... FUNDING

zorgon

Re Mercury Vortex...

That stuff is deadly even to be near

In China there is an ancient pyramid buried that has a model of the realm. That model had a mercury river. The ground is now so contaminated that NO ONE dares to go dig it up. They know its there because of ground penetrating radar

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/China_Pyramid_08_Qin%20Shihuang.html

Mercury Vortex was what supposedly powered the Ancient Indian Vimana...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/03files/Vimanas_Mercury_Vortex_Technology.html

Mercury Vortex is supposedly what that TR3-B uses but that craft is 99% disinfo 1% fact :P (promoted mainly by one person with an unknown agenda)




zorgon

With all the rumors of NAZI UFO's in Antarctica near the end of WWII  it is interesting to fins a sunken Uboat off Norway that was carrying a LARGE load of liquid Mercury

That sub is about to become an ecological NIGHTMARE as the canisters are now deteriorating and leaking. They cannot bring them up and last i heard they were trying to find a way to entomb the sub before it destroys the fishing industry in the region due to mercury poisoning

Its so bad that when the inspectors came to sample the tailing (already in barrels) at John's mine for mercury contamination (used for leaching out gold) they would not touch it. We had to fill the specimen jars

Its not nice stuff, even though that mercury used at the mine did come out of the ground in the first place :P Its the concentration that is the issue AND more deadly, the vapor (Its also in fluorescent bulbs FYI  so don't be smashing them where you breath ;) )


PS Feel free to split these posts off to a Schauberger discussion :D

Littleenki

 
QuoteSo are you implying that we need MONEY to buy stuff to make Free energy stuff?

Hmmmmm

Yes, Zorgon, the free part of free energy is once the infrastructure is built, then we can extract the free energy I guess. :P

Thats a cool way to keep the superconducting disc operating, and I have ten fingers, so I can make a mistake or two before it gets gory!LOL!

Im leaning more towards this carbon fiber pressure bonding whereas the material offers negative reistance though...as a friend makes parts for bikes in his shop and has a massive hydraulic press to make the parts very very thin.

Im going to get some cutoffs from him and see what odd effects I can find within them...anyone know how much voltage and current will be involved to see the negative resistance outcome, or will my fluke measure the negative rsistance with its internal power supply?

Cheers!
Le

Hermetically sealed, for your protection

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#19
Dave;
Build a tiny MEG like i did, using Naudin's plans (there is a flaw, you need 2 rewire the coils differently) & you will get negative resistance in anything placed in or near the circuit ;)

Littleenki

Ive seen that Luke, and I have the parts too!
:)
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

COSMO

Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 11:15:49 PM

Yes, Zorgon, the free part of free energy is once the infrastructure is built, then we can extract the free energy I guess. :P

Thats a cool way to keep the superconducting disc operating, and I have ten fingers, so I can make a mistake or two before it gets gory!LOL!

Im leaning more towards this carbon fiber pressure bonding whereas the material offers negative reistance though...as a friend makes parts for bikes in his shop and has a massive hydraulic press to make the parts very very thin.

Im going to get some cutoffs from him and see what odd effects I can find within them...anyone know how much voltage and current will be involved to see the negative resistance outcome, or will my fluke measure the negative rsistance with its internal power supply?

Cheers!
Le

Le,
In regard to negative resistance, the reminded me of the work of Gabriel Kron:

Gabriel Kron and the Negative Resistor
At the time of his death, Gabriel Kron was arguably the greatest electrical scientist ever produced by the United States.

It appears that the availability of this Heaviside energy component surrounding any portion of the circuit may be the long sought secret to Gabriel Kron's "open path" that enabled him to produce a true negative resistor in the 1930s, as the chief scientist for General Electric on the U.S. Navy contract for the Network Analyzer at Stanford University.  Kron was never permitted to release how he made his negative resistor, but did state that, when placed in the Network Analyzer, the generator could be disconnected because the negative resistor would power the circuit.  Since a negative resistor converges surrounding energy and diverges it into the circuit, it appears that Kron's negative resistor gathered energy from the Heaviside component of energy flow as an "open path" flow of energy — connecting together the local vicinities of any two separated circuit components — that had been discarded by previous electrodynamicists following Lorentz.  Hence Kron referred to it as the "open path."

From Tom Bearden's website:

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/kron.htm

Maybe Kron is worthy of a thread here in the inventors group?

Listening to replay of Coast to Coast on utoob of Nassim Haramein's interview from lastnight.  He is talking about the Higgs, and the energy of the vacuum of space.  Nice discussion.  Quantum fluctuations and more!  Well worth a listen!




And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

Good one, Cosmo, a 'golden' post... 8)

QuoteMaybe Kron is worthy of a thread here in the inventors group?

Probably, but to tell the truth, i have very little info on him (some old Keeleynet files here somewhere)...
If Zorgon wants to add a Kron thread?
I will have a root around in the hard drives.
The negative resistance, Heaviside layer etc has been observed, the theory is sound, there is plenty of evidence for it.

Think i'll start a 'circuits' thread soon.... :D :o ??? :P

Fruitbat

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Quote from: zorgon on July 22, 2012, 10:59:34 PM
Well Pegasus appreciates all you inventors that will be purchasing their LN tanks...



Amazon------>

But seriously... to get any real work done, at some point we would need that evil word... FUNDING

OF course a quick browse with an alternative supplier can reduce one's outgoings enormously.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Taylor-Wharton-Jencons-35HC-liquid-nitrogen-dewar-with-10-sampel-holders-/230839614092?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Equipment_ET&hash=item35bf1cfa8c
Bid and they can be found even cheaper, of course. IN fact lower in my search I managed to find a £99 BOC dewar. The stuff we need is largely useless to people once their specific need evaporates and useless to most "normal" people too, so the ACTUAL resale value is often an order of magnitude cheaper as soon as you find one outside of the "trade"... However having teh space to actually work, and being able to leave that space and do something else without it being disturbed by the time you return, THAT seems to be the expensive part!

There's always "loans" of equipment from colleges and workplaces that can be arranged by the well connected.

IMHO actually getting the work done (including overcoming the cost problems) is much easier than knowing what to do...

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#24
That's right Steve!
'Getting the work done' is what it's about, you can see what can be done & i am getting into the habit of providing 'tips for inventors' in glow purple to make them stand out, like in the 'home repair' thread:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.0

Yes i'm shamelessly plugging one of my own threads, something that would get you banned on certain 'conspiracy sites' ::)

I don't care, if you have read it, skip it (that's why i put the title as well as the url) and if you haven't, why not??

;D
But yes, funding is still a problem. Thats why i tend to work on 'miniature' models first. If it is promising, i can simply enlarge the model at a later date...
It still bugs me that some professors get paid a half million to write a book about a theory, let alone actually DO anything with it >:(

For god's sake, for half a million we would be halfway to the Bob Lazar 'sport model' 8) :o :(

Fruitbat


"For god's sake, for half a million we would be halfway to the Bob Lazar 'sport model',"

Yes... I think that is exactly WHY the funding isn't available to the likes of your and me.

And if I only needed half a million, and had a working model to show, I might just know a bloke who'd give me the money...

Fruitbat

Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 05:32:34 PM
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Dave

Go on, Dave! I did once, and it's been an amazing journey... :c)
FB!

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

Fruitbat:
QuoteYes... I think that is exactly WHY the funding isn't available to the likes of your and me.

Probably, but were getting there anyway, the materials we need are getting cheaper by the day due to a huge demand (notably China, what the **** do THEY know?) :D

Besides, once you have a working 'proof of concept' model, they will come running.

I would go with the Sheikhs, they have bucketfuls of cash, and are genuinely interested in finding an alternative for all that oil they are sitting on, they know it will either run out, or get taken by other nations when TSHTF....OPEC may want them to tow the line, but the UAE arent stupid (even if half of them went to Eton :P )

QuoteAnd if I only needed half a million, and had a working model to show, I might just know a bloke who'd give me the money...

That's just for the working model, mate.
Want to go to Mars, it will cost 100 mil extra, i reckon.
Still, thats less than 2 Harriers, or 1/5 of a space shuttle LOL

QuoteQuote from: Littleenki on 22-07-2012, 09:32:34
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Dave

Go on, Dave! I did once, and it's been an amazing journey... :c)
FB!

I'd rather NOT know what you guys are talking about!
:P

COSMO

Frank Znidarsic's Theory for Podkletnov Effect:

Interesting video...





And don't forget the gravity impulse generator:



http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/experiments.html

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

PLAYSWITHMACHINES