Podkletnov, Discussions

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Remember our goal folks, is to prove these theories one way or another.
Have fun!

[COSMO]

This is from Amaterasu's post in the Podkletnov Anti-Gravity thread which is locked:

On the other hand gravitational shocks associated with electric shock discharges travel superluminally because the shock propels the ether forward in the direction of gravity wave travel.  This is why Podkletnov gets the results he does.  This interpretation of Podkletnov's beam and the Obolensky experiment is presented in Chapter 6 of my book Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion
(etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-Secrets.html).

I agree, movement of ether is always superluminal, waves/particles in the ether are not.  Ether may be 2  dimensional, as surface of ocean, but can be modified to 3D giving rise to 3D universe just like ocean waves.  Particles are waves after all!!!!  There are waves and then there are tsunamis.  Tsunamis are MUCH faster than waves.   

Gravity Impulse Generator:

   

Podkletnov says this is a gravity gun, but I see a propulsion methodology.  If the emitter is in the base of a craft, pushing craft and all contents at 64c equally, there would be no inertia to overcome, and the "push" would extend beyond the craft, clearing a path, like the deflector dish on the Enterprise NCC1701.  Gravity is a push after all.  Push drive!  You could really go places getting pushed around the universe at 64c.  Maybe a rotating emf in a superconducting disc would create an ether vortex, providing a constant push, instead of just a pulse.  Like water going down a drain....  Musings.....

[COSMO]

Just in case you might think 2D space/time/ether is a creation of my feeble, disillusioned, schizophrenic, paranoid mind!!! 
I am not alone!

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420717/why-spacetime-on-the-tiniest-scale-may-be-two/

Today, Carlip outlines his own fascinating take on the problem which is that spacetime on the tiniest scale may be two dimensional. While that may seem a little counterintuitive, he says there is a growing number of indicators (evidence is too strong a word) that point to that conclusion.

Carlip says recent work in loop quantum gravity, high temperature string theory, renormalization group analysis applied to general relativity and other areas of quantum gravity research, all hints at a two dimensional spacetime on the smallest scale. In most of these cases, the number of dimensions simply collapse in a process called spontaneous dimensional reduction as the scale reduces.

I think I'll be ok, my doctor said the shadow people aren't real just like the scary noises!   

[COSMO]

For anyone looking for superconducting disc, this might be a good source.

http://amasci.com/freenrg/bw.txt

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Yes, this is exactly what i wanted Cosmo

feedback, info, discussions, and yes even musings.
Great work dude.
I can't really comment on the 2d stuff until i read it but maybe the 'collapsing dimensions' can go even further to 1, -1 etc.....

Many theories like String etc propose multiple dimensions in order for all of this (gravity etc) to work. I see charge as being also a dimension, or at least, connecting between dimensions.

Deep stuff indeed, i'm proud of you guys

[Littleenki]

Today, Carlip outlines his own fascinating take on the problem which is that spacetime on the tiniest scale may be two dimensional. While that may seem a little counterintuitive, he says there is a growing number of indicators (evidence is too strong a word) that point to that conclusion.

Aha, sounds like well have to name the smallest ideas 2d Sheet theory instead of  4d String theory!LOL!

I find the vortex to be the crux of a free energy device, regardless of what is rotating, the fluid vortex is self regenerating and can effectively be made to feed itself...so its close to unity already without any amplification.

Im looking for a Schauberger thread, Luke, as you know Im a big proponent of vortex technology.

And superconductors are the key, Cosmo, they really can do things that ordinary materials cant...now to harness that into a rotating mass and make it work for us in a vacuum...thats where we should look.

Oh and of course, for lots of money to buy that superconducting disc!;)

Cosmo, are you familiar with negative resistance theory? It is a standard parallel to superconductor tech, and I remember someone in Buffalo finding a material that
exhibits -8 ohms.

heres a quote from the article....

Two US scientists claim to have discovered a new electrical effect called negative resistance in carbon-composite materials. And when materials exhibiting negative resistance are combined with 'normal' materials, they appear to have zero resistance to electrical current, similar to superconducting materials. Moreover, this behaviour persists to room temperature, whereas "high-temperature" superconductors only lose their resistance below about 150K or -120 C. The results were presented at fifth International Conference on Composites Engineering in Las Vegas.

Deborah Chung and Shoukai Wang of the University of Buffalo in the US stumbled across this unexpected behaviour whilst researching 'smart' materials. These materials, usually based on carbon fibre, use the electrical resistance of the fibres to monitor the properties of structures such as bridges and buildings. Chung has been careful not to call the material a room temperature superconductor. Instead she calls it "a strange conduction phenomenon called negative resistance."

The phenomenon appears to break one of the fundamental laws of physics - the electrons in the circuit seem to flow towards the negative rather than positive electrode. Chung suspects that the extremely high pressures used to bind the carbon fibber layers together is responsible for the effect. So far, Chung and Wang have demonstrated negative resistances as low as -8 ohms for a contact area of one square centimetre.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/1998/jul/10/negative-resistance-surprises-material-scientists

With NR, we could build a circuit that could slowly and methodically accelerate a flywheel which could drive a fluid vortex and create a perpetual motion generator with different sections from different fields of research...fluid dynamics, superconductance, and negative resistance electronics. A triple threat?

he!! Yeah!

Sleep well gentlemen!:D

Dave

[Amaterasu]

Dave,

Have You ever head of the closed loop implosion turbine (which I recommend not using the acronym for...)?

[Littleenki]

Dave,

Have You ever head of the closed loop implosion turbine (which I recommend not using the acronym for...)?

Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!

Could you elaborate a bit? I cant find anything right off on google...maybe its a secret?

Cheers!
Dave

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?
OK i've got some plans somewhere, that closed loop impulse thingy sounds kinda familiar (the work not the acronym )
I think the turbine in this case actually used water??

If you think about it, a common dynamo is a magnetic vortex generator, is it not? OK so we all know Fleming's left-hand rule etc A and B fields etc, but it's also a vortex....Just musing here

Oh yes, the negative resistance effect is real, i've measured it, got down to about -2 ohms, but it wan't what i was looking for at the time LOL!

[Amaterasu]

Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!

Could you elaborate a bit? I cant find anything right off on google...maybe its a secret?

Cheers!
Dave

It's an invention of My ex's.  I was just wondering how far out there He reached in promoting it.  Not very far it seems.  Back in 2003 We had the opportunity to use rapid prototyping of the unit.  Unfortunately, the method available back then did not do what the 3D printers of today do.  The material was a weak plastic and could not handle the detail needed, and it did not work.

I wonder if today's equipment would do better...  Ah, well.  Water under the bridge.

Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?
OK i've got some plans somewhere, that closed loop impulse thingy sounds kinda familiar (the work not the acronym )
I think the turbine in this case actually used water??

If you think about it, a common dynamo is a magnetic vortex generator, is it not? OK so we all know Fleming's left-hand rule etc A and B fields etc, but it's also a vortex....Just musing here

Oh yes, the negative resistance effect is real, i've measured it, got down to about -2 ohms, but it wan't what i was looking for at the time LOL!

The reason I brought up the closed loop implosion turbine is because it was based in Schauberger's work.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

That's why i mentioned Schauberger just then
Ive got some files here somewhere, it will have to wait till tomorrow.
Later

[zorgon]

Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?

yes he did   but it was at Open minds I will have to pull it up.  I think its on my website still

I REALLY need to get back into the habit of making a thread FIRST on the webpage then copy paste it here

Too much wasted time having to redo it

[zorgon]

All the German related Tech was collected by Brotherthebig at ATS

I have all that material and related NAZI tech here..

Turn up the volume

Brotherthebig's Files

There is a LOT of work there, but still its not complete... I have more to add

Viktor Shauberger

Mercury - NAZI Mercury Vortex Tech - Victor Schauberger - Grey Falcon - [Archived]
Viktor Shauberger's Vortex Technology Duplicated
Viktor Schauberger - History on German Wikipedia
Viktor Schauberger; The Repulsine, UFO's and Flying Saucers of Nazi Germany - [Archived]
Water Vortex - Victor Shauberger's antigravity methods 1999
Victor Schauberger Repulsin A&B - (1940-1945) - By Rob Arndt - Grey Falcon - [Archived]

I see that once again some old links are dead again  Good thing I archived all those pages

Its nice having a few terabytes memory and its on a portable drive

Its funny I paid for 6 terabytes at the server and now they are doing unlimited  Go figure

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Brilliant.

We make the 'A' team look like girl guides

[zorgon]

Oh and of course, for lots of money to buy that superconducting disc!;)

So are you implying that we need MONEY to buy stuff to make Free energy stuff?

Hmmmmm

You also need liquid Nitrogen  Fortunately that stuff is still legal to possess even for the layman. It is also extremely dangerous to play with... stick your finger in it by accident and your finger will break off and shatter like glass 

You can buy small amounts to treat warts

Liquid Nitrogen is relatively cheap, around $500 per ton and readily available from Gas companies that sell welding and medical gasses

But the containers are not cheap

Amazon has one, a practical small lab size



Taylor Wharton Liquid Nitrogen Tank, 35L, 11", 6 Canisters
Price:    $1,784.81

Smaller ones run at 350-500... but don't hold much  and Liquid Nitrogen evaporates very quickly