Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and With It, Child Pornography As Well!

[ArMaP]

But as mentioned by myself and Eighthman in our further comments... there maybe reasons to suggest that it maybe or may become possible..

Based on what? On what someone says on a site? Get the facts first, worry after confirming them.

In this case, there was no sign of official condoning of paedophilia, there was no sign of trying to make it legal, there are not even any references to the EU wanting to making it legal, the only fact is that the booklet was published and, 6 years after, was removed because some people complained about it.

and we may wonder how far they may be trying to push us or get us to accept..

You may, and you may also worry about the zombie apocalypse or about the invasion of killer rabbits from outer space, but I suggest you worry about proven problems, they are enough to keep us busy.

[Eighthman]

http://www.dw.com/en/pedophilia-scandal-entangles-german-greens/a-16836153

Gee, when did German become such a fuzzy language?  I always liked the tightly focused compound words that commonly describe something highly specific to a degree that dwarfs English.

Ambiguity and lack of clarity constitute a choice.  If the subject is pedophilia and 'some people might misunderstand' what was said, then the lack of concern about hard meaning in a critical topic tells you you're being bullsh*tted.

This is 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' stuff and the ambiguity was by design because it wasn't necessary. Notice the odd situation involving 'ambiguity' in the Green party.

[astr0144]

With ref to what you say about the details and with ref to the German website link you posted that as I think you are suggesting explains the facts you describe about the booklet etc..

Assuming that you did not read it in German..

Did you use an auto translation or copy and paste the content into one online...

Are you used to make translations? If you are you know what I'm talking about.

Often I get a pop up show up, giving me the chance to transcribe if I opt to do so..but it did not show up on this occasion.

I think there maybe an option within the website, but when I click on it... it does not translate immediately...and I cannot understand the further German wording..

If you managed to translate it... can you copy and paste the English version on the website below.. if I am unable to translate it..

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/koerper-liebe-doktorspiele-von-der-leyen-stoppt-umstrittene-aufklaerungsbroschuere-a-497527.html

I suppose its a concern because I believe that there maybe other related agendas that I may suspect could connect to such a thing..that if not presently true may be leading towards trying further to see how far they can push it.. if it is something that maybe being considered by who ever..


I do agree however its unlikely to be true as there has been little else mentioned about it...

and Im sure there would be a uproar..

But again there have been other things happen that have occurred where you would not think possible..

Based on what? On what someone says on a site? Get the facts first, worry after confirming them.

In this case, there was no sign of official condoning of paedophilia, there was no sign of trying to make it legal, there are not even any references to the EU wanting to making it legal, the only fact is that the booklet was published and, 6 years after, was removed because some people complained about it.

[ArMaP]

Gee, when did German become such a fuzzy language?  I always liked the tightly focused compound words that commonly describe something highly specific to a degree that dwarfs English.

The problem is not one language, it's the conversion from one language to the other.

Ambiguity and lack of clarity constitute a choice.

Maybe, maybe not, I always avoid judging people without evidence.

If the subject is pedophilia and 'some people might misunderstand' what was said, then the lack of concern about hard meaning in a critical topic tells you you're being bullsh*tted.

That lack of concern, either by the responsible for the booklet, by those distributing it and by those that read it (it was a book for parents also) lasted for 6 years before someone complained, so I suppose it wasn't that easy to misunderstand, although possible.

This is 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' stuff and the ambiguity was by design because it wasn't necessary. Notice the odd situation involving 'ambiguity' in the Green party.

Once more, I never judge people without clear evidence, and I don't know the reason for the ambiguity, so I cannot say if it was by design or not. The situation with the Green party is not really an ambiguity, as there were really some people that, apparently, considered "freedom" to mean "freedom to do anything they wanted" (I saw a little of that mindset after the Carnation Revolution), but, as the article you posted says, it was a minority of people that didn't go their wishes.

Sure, most of that people are still alive, some still politically active and probably still trying to get their wishes, but they're still a minority, and a minority cannot make changes in the laws.

[ArMaP]

Assuming that you did not read it in German..

Did you use an auto translation or copy and paste the content into one online...

I know only some German words, not enough to read a news article, so I did what I usually do in situations like this, I used 4 online translators and tried to create a logical translation based on all the versions and my little knowledge of German and of how translator software works.

[astr0144]

Thks for explaining..

Unless a translation site does it easily with just one site..Im not sure id want to have to try 3 more..

Depending what browser you use may also determine if your browser can auto translate..

Im on google chrome that has translated for me usually ok..but for some reason the popup has not appeared when visiting the German site..

upon looking in google chrome options / settings.. / there is a option to select language..

I suspect that I could alter that in Chrome and try it..

but I have never used it before and I have to hope nothing goes wrong.. or that I can go back to English ok..


I maybe tempted..later

looking at it however it does not seem as straight forward as i would have expected...so I don't think I will risk it..

Is or was the booket a PDF or txt version..and did you also manage to translate that..

some PDFs you cannot easily copy and paste..unless you can make a txt version from it..

it also maybe we do not have all the details...although I think you will have the basis of it..

[Pimander]

The problem with the EU and Germany is nothing to do with pornography or Paedophilia. 

The biggest problem for poorer countries, especially those in the Eurozone (countries who use the Euro currency) is that the situation has given the German economy a huge boost at the expense of others.

The lack of a "floating" exchange rate (one that changes as the value of a nations currency changes) means that Germany has been able to successfully export manufactured goods easily but poorer EU countries like Greece, Spain and Portugal cannot devalue their currency allowing them to export goods cheaper.

This means that poorer countries can export less and their industry has been devastated.  Unemployment is very high in those countries in the Eurozone therefore tax revenues are low and the governments need to borrow huge sums of cash to provide essential services to citizens.  The more they borrow the higher the interest and therefore the more they ned to borrow.

The solution is to get rid or the Euro and not pay the banks back or the banks write off most of the debt.

Luckily for the UK, we voted to not join the Euro and kept the Pound and therefore the Bank of England.  We set our own interest rates which help determine the value of our currency.  The UK and Germany are the strongest economies in Europe and they are the ones who can set interest rates (the European central bank is in and run by Germany).

[astr0144]

I thought that the thread was about trying to determine if there may had any truth about the title of the article posted..(As much as I may find your reply interesting and welcome any further comments in regards to you knowledge and thoughts about Germany and the EU or the Euro referendum)

It was not about Politics on the topic that you refer to ...

I suspect that you were only able to be on a quick visit and had just read part of the thread that may had referred to some other comments that may had referred to certain things that you refer to..

The problem with the EU and Germany is nothing to do with pornography or Paedophilia. 

The biggest problem for poorer countries, especially those in the Eurozone (countries who use the Euro currency) is that the situation has given the German economy a huge boost at the expense of others.

[ArMaP]

Unless a translation site does it easily with just one site..Im not sure id want to have to try 3 more..

The problem with automated translations is that they rely on their training and on the statistical occurrence of the words, to try to get some context, so they are biased but the text used in the training, and that's why they are always asking for a better translation.

Using 4 (I usually 5, but the last one I use mostly for shorter sentences, as that one is very good for that) sites give us a better idea of the meaning of the sentence and allows us to choose, based on the rest of the text, the best translation, which, in many cases, is a mix of two or even three translations from different engines.

[Dyna]

Clearly there has been an effort on mainstreaming child sex for many years. There are many many incidents. The one in the OP had many links here and there all removed.


"On April 7, 1970, the Berlin state parliament discussed the Rote Freiheit after-school center. As it turned out, the Psychology Institute at the Free University of Berlin was behind the center. In fact, the institute had established the facility and provided the educators who worked there.

Pantomiming Intercourse

The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

According to the records, a "sex exercise" was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "friging hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: "In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us."

The material introduced the broader public to a byproduct of the student movement for the first time: the sexual liberation of children. Besser passed on the reports to an editor at the West Berlin newspaper Der Abend, who published excerpts of the material. On April 7, 1970, the Berlin state parliament discussed the Rote Freiheit after-school center. As it turned out, the Psychology Institute at the Free University of Berlin was behind the center. In fact, the institute had established the facility and provided the educators who worked there. "

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html#js-article-comments-box-pager

I cannot find any way to translate these PDF's but it is what is available now.

http://www.bzga.de/infomaterialien/sexualaufklaerung/?ab=20
Loving accompany ...
No.: 13660500

I selected a couple sentences from one I downloaded age 1-6 and used a sentence translator I had to type in.,
Alteren Kinern can parents explain gently that Dufur Papas penis must mums vagina .

Kindliche Sexualitat ist mit der im Wesentlichen auf Generalitat fokussierte Sexualitat Erwachsener nicht zu vergleichen.

Aktive Kinder gehen ihrer Neugier und ihrem positiven Korper gefuhl nach, beginnen deshalb aber nicht fruher mit dem Geschlechtsverkehr.
Translation
Childhood sexuality is not to be compared with the essentially focused on Generalitat sexuality adult.

Active children go their curiosity and their positive body by feeling , but why not start earlier with the sexual intercourse .

This all is looking a lot like the same removed stuff.