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Started by thorfourwinds, March 14, 2013, 12:54:45 AM

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Pimander

Quote from: sky otter on March 18, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
this is scary....more so that fema
Not to most Americans it seems.....

Three strikes and your out means you can be shoplifting and work for someone else for life.  Private profit for life for shoplifting!  Cool. 

It's called slavery. :o

sky otter


perhaps you missed this line

GEO's facilities are located in the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and South Africa


and i point this out to you with a very heavy heart and sick stomach


i think most people are caring when they  have knowledge
saying  that i also think, like me, most have no idea of the depth of what is happening
and yes.. a lot really don't want to go any further than their own set of problems
and they don't see  the bigger picture
or how this could be a problem

so  this knowledge/ information needs to be made visible and hope that
'prison planet' is not a self fulling prophesy

:(

Pimander

#17
England does not have privately run prisons at this point.  However, the Conservative (similar to Republicans) government wish to allow them.

This deserves its own thread Sky.  It needs detail about the penal system and how people can be forced to work for social security payments then sent to jail if they steal 3 times (because they are black and have a problem due to the history of slavery in the USA which means they object to working on those terms and have no income).

Slavery has a definition and is alive and well in the USA and in other countries too.  The difference I was pointing out is that the other countries do not have this right to bear arms which is supposed to protect citizens from slavery and tyranny.  Lets see it in action then...

sky otter



are you sure that no where in england there is a prison for profit?..as they claim

yes it does deserve it's own thread but probably you and i would be it..lol


i have thought  what i can do and am forming a plan..but i need more info first
and one of my thoughts is just how do these corporations acquire the prisoners to start with
does the system (tax payers) pay them ?....
are they selected somehow?

i do need to set you straight on one thing though..it isn't just people of color who are in the system and it isn't for stealing..unless that is in connection for other things...

tv shows and some doco really go overboard in presentation for the drama while leaving out
facts...because sadly they are selling their product...

:(

Pimander

#19
Quote from: sky otter on March 19, 2013, 02:03:26 PM
i do need to set you straight on one thing though..it isn't just people of color who are in the system and it isn't for stealing..unless that is in connection for other things...
No it isn't.  They are holding 30 000 immigrants a day, though some are just for stealing due to 3 strikes and life laws.

If people knew the details they would care, trust me. :)




I think the private interests buy the prison, I guess it goes to the highest bidder or someone who does corporate favours (campaign donations?).  They insisted on a deal in many cases that the state guarantees the prison is 90% full so they can profit from their labour and there is no risk of losing money.

stealthyaroura

QuoteEngland does not have privately run prisons at this point.

erm PIM are you sure there pal?
Quote
According to the National Audit Office, the relative inexperience of staff means that some private prisons can struggle to create a safe environment for prisoners. Private prison contracts in England and Wales are shared between just three companies: Serco, Sodexo and G4S. Overall the costs of private prisons per place are higher than public prisons for most types of establishment. Despite this, the average ratio of prison staff to prisoners is usually lower in private prisons, and staff generally receive a lower level of basic pay than their public sector colleagues. In 2011 the average gross salary for a private sector prison officer was 23% less than public sector equivalents.

In the main, private prisons are more overcrowded and less safe than their public counterparts. Private prisons have held a higher percentage of their prisoners in overcrowded accommodation than public sector prisons every year for the past 14 years. In 2011-12 the private prisons average was 30.2%, compared to an average of 23.3% in the public sector. Forest Bank, Doncaster and Altcourse have particularly high rates of overcrowding, with 39.8%, 58.6% and 69.8% of prisoners held in overcrowded accommodation respectively.
sourcehttp://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/
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Well its March, and i'm not ready...

I hope they delay their plan...

I was hoping it wouldn't go down for a few more years...

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Pimander

Quote from: stealthyaroura on March 23, 2013, 12:36:13 AM
erm PIM are you sure there pal? sourcehttp://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/
I beg your pardon.  There are several (7 I think).  They were privatised under the conservatives and I thought Labour had reversed the decision.  They are not industrial based (work camps) or very large but they exist.

I'm trying to find a film about them but it seems to have been removed from the web.  It must be there somewhere.  Watch this space.

thorfourwinds

#24


From our friend EX-SKF:



24 April 2013

Obama Administration Notifies the Congress on Including Japan in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Negotiation

I wonder if anyone in the Congress has been even aware that the Obama administration has been negotiating for the US to join this free-trade trade block with the Pacific Rim countries.

As far as Japan goes, the media and the Abe administration have been breathlessly touting the numerous benefits of joining the trade block, while the prime minister himself has admitted he doesn't clearly know what's involved.

But not to worry, TPP will help pull Japan from 2 decades in the economic and societal doldrums!

No one clearly explains how.

From the so-called economics experts in Japan comes this "argument" that unless Japan joins TPP now, the nation will be left out in the world.??In the case of the US, TPP is to be sold by the Obama Administration as "job creator".

Sounds all too familiar.




The Office of the US Trade Representative's press release (4/24/2013; emphasis is original):

Obama Administration Notifies Congress of Intent to Include Japan in Trans-Pacific Partnership Negotiations

04/24/2013

Washington, D.C. – The Obama Administration today notified Congress of its intent to include Japan in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement negotiations.

This notification follows an announcement on April 12, 2013 that the United States and Japan had completed bilateral TPP consultations, as well as an announcement by TPP countries on April 21, 2013 that they welcome Japan as a new participant in the TPP negotiations, pending the successful completion of domestic procedures by each TPP country.

Today's notification triggers a 90-day consultation period with Congress and the public on U.S. negotiating objectives with respect to Japan. Acting United States Trade Representative Demetrios Marantis noted in a letter to lawmakers that Japan's entry into this important negotiation will help to deliver significant economic benefits for the United States, Japan and the Asia-Pacific region.??"The participation of Japan, a major U.S. trading partner as well as close ally, further increases the economic significance of a TPP Agreement.

"With Japan's entry, TPP countries would account for nearly 40 percent of global GDP and about one-third of all world trade," wrote Ambassador Marantis. "As we have done thus far, we will work with Congress as we use the TPP Agreement to promote new technologies and emerging economic sectors, create new opportunities for U.S. exporters, including small- and medium-sized businesses, in the region, and help U.S. firms participate in production and supply chains in order to encourage investment and production in the United States.

We value the partnership we have established with Congress on the TPP negotiations and look forward to maintaining it as we discuss U.S. objectives and carry out negotiations to conclude this important new agreement."


Furthermore, the United States will conduct bilateral, parallel negotiations with Japan to address concerns in the automotive sector and non-tariff measures in other sectors. The Obama Administration will consult closely with Congress and stakeholders on the elements of these negotiations during the 90-day consultation period.

The TPP is a key element of the Obama Administration's efforts to support the creation and retention of high-quality jobs for Americans by increasing exports to the vibrant economies of the Asia-Pacific region. The United States and its TPP partners are determined to expeditiously complete a comprehensive, next-generation agreement. In addition to the United States, the current TPP countries include Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

To view a copy of the notification letter to Congress, click here.

For more information on the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the upcoming negotiating round in Lima, Peru, please visit www.ustr.gov/tpp.

"The TPP is a key element of the Obama Administration's efforts to support the creation and retention of high-quality jobs for Americans by increasing exports to the vibrant economies of the Asia-Pacific region"

What vibrant economies?

TPP current members (original members of the 2005 Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership Agreement):
Brunei
Chile
New Zealand
Singapore

TPP prospective members:
Australia
Canada
Malaysia
Mexico
Peru
the United States
Vietnam
and now Japan.

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DHS Insider: "Preparations Have Been Finalized to Respond to a Crisis of Unprecedented Magnitude Within the United States"

27 December 2013

by Douglas J. Hagmann

Under the cover and amid the distraction of the Christmas bustle, I had my last "official" contact with a source inside the Department of Homeland Security known as "Rosebud" in my writings.

My source is leaving his position, retiring along with numerous others choosing to leave this bureaucratic monstrosity. For this contact, my source took unprecedented measures to be certain that our contact was far off the radar of prying government eyes and ears. I was stunned at the lengths he employed, and even found myself somewhat annoyed by the inconvenience that his cloak-and-dagger approach caused. It was necessary, according to my source, because all department heads under FEMA and DHS are under orders to identify anyone disclosing any information for termination and potential criminal prosecution.

"DHS is like a prison environment, complete with prison snitches," he said, referring to the search for leaks and leakers. And the warden is obsessed. Ask anyone in DHS. No one trusts anyone else and whatever sources might be left are shutting up. The threats that have been made far exceed anything I've ever seen. Good people are afraid for their lives and the lives of their families. We've all been threatened. They see the writing on the wall and are leaving. It's not a joke and not hype."

The following is a narrative from my source, prefaced with the instructions to "take it or leave it," and "disregard it at your own peril." He added that it's now up to each American to act on the information themselves or suffer the consequences. "I've resigned myself to the fact that most [Americans] will never be convinced of the reality that is taking place right in front of them."






Note: One of the questions oft asked in alternative news circles is why, if elements within the U.S. government intend to collapse our economy and implement martial, no one within these circles has spoken out. The fact is that scores of people have made it their duty to alert the American people to what's going on behind the scenes. They've told us of the corruption and backroom deals.

They've given us the warning signs to look for, many of which have already come to pass. They've even made us aware of the government's response should the worst come to pass. Detractors often dismiss the warnings and insider reports as bogus, often claiming that if the sources are anonymous they can't be legitimate.

But do we blame them for taking extreme steps to protect their identities? Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning showed their faces, and now they will spend their lives as targets. Given what happened to these whistle blowers, is it any surprise that others with insider knowledge refuse to speak out in an official capacity?


The following warning comes to us from an anonymous source deep within the Department of Homeland Security who has taken it upon himself to share his knowledge with our audience through the generous contrtributions of the Hagmann and Hagmann Report via the Northeast Intelligence Network. The insider has taken extraordinary measures to remain anonymous, but given what we know the government is up to and the signs we see all around us, does his desire for anonymity make his claims any less legitimate than if he had included his name?


We've long argued that any manufactured event would be telegraphed to the general public by whistle blowers on the inside. Deny the possibility if you so choose, but this insider, along with others who have shared their information may well be the only warning you'll ever receive. As the Insider notes, most people simply have no idea what's coming, nor do they care to. One morning they'll wake up and all hell will have broken loose.




"The plan" as explained by the DHS Insider

"According to every internal document I've seen and read, and from the few people I've spoken with who understand what's going on, preparations have been finalized to respond to a crisis of unprecedented magnitude within the United States. The response will include the use of lethal force against U.S. citizens under the instructions of Barack Obama."  But why?

"'It's the economy, stupid,'" he began, paraphrasing a campaign slogan coined by James Carville for Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign.  "Just as I disclosed in our first meeting, the crisis will be rooted in an economic collapse. I told you last year, at a time when gold and silver were setting record highs, one specific indicator that time is very short. It is the final 'smack down' of the metals, gold and silver, that will presage the orchestrated economic collapse that is being planned by the bankers of Wall Street.

Everybody needs to understand that this is a deliberate collapse of the U.S. economy with the oversight of the White House and the full knowledge of the Justice Department.  Everyone seems to be waiting for some big, history making event that will signal the start of the collapse. The fact is that the collapse has already started. It's incremental, like a snowball rolling down a hill. It gets bigger and rolls faster. Well, this snowball is well on its way down the hill."

"I don't mean to sound repetitive, by I can't stress this enough. Contrary to what you hear, we're already in an economic collapse, except that most people haven't a clue. The 'big bang' comes at the end, when people they wake up one morning and can't log in to their bank accounts, can't use their ATM cards, and find out that their private pension funds and other assets have been confiscated," he stated.






"I've seen documentation of multiple scenarios created outside of DHS. Different plans and back-up plans. Also, please understand that I deliberately used the word 'created,' as this is a completely manufactured event.

In the end it won't be presented that way, which is extremely important for everyone to understand. What is coming will be blamed on some unforeseen event out of everyone's control, that few saw coming or thought would actually happen. Then, another event will take place concurrent with this event, or immediately after it, to confuse and compound an already explosive situation." I asked for specifics.

"As I said, there are several scenarios and I don't know them all. I know one calls for a cyber-attack by an external threat, which will then be compounded by something far removed from everyone's own radar. But it's all a ruse, or a pretext. The threat is from within," he stated. "Before people can regain their footing, a second event will be triggered." Again, I asked for specifics.

"I've seen one operational plan that refers to the federal government's response to a significant terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Information at these levels is compartmentalized. I don't have specifics, just plans for the response.

The response will be controls and restrictions on travel, business, and every aspect of our lives, especially gun ownership and speech that incites people against the government. I guess some people would call it Martial Law, and they would not be incorrect. But understand that this will be a process deployed in stages. How quickly of a process remains to be seen."




The mechanics explained

As I said, people continue to look for something big to happen first, followed by a militaristic response by the federal government against U.S. citizens. Based on what I've seen, I don't believe it will happen this way, although there is one unthinkable exception. That exception would involve a 'decapitation' of our leadership, but I've seen nothing even remotely suggestive of that. But I've heard and even read articles where that is mentioned. Frankly, though, that's always been a threat. I suppose that if the leadership is deemed useless, or becomes a liability to the larger agenda in some manner,  it could happen. The precedent exists. Let's pray that it's not the case now."

"I don't think anyone except the initiated few know the precise series of events or the exact timing, just a general overview and an equally general time period. I think we're in that period now, as DHS has their planned responses finalized. Also, the metals are important because it's real money, not Ponzi fiat currency.

The U.S. has no inventory of gold, so the prices are manipulated down to cause a sell-off of the physical assets. China is on a buying spree of gold, and other countries want their inventory back. The very people causing the prices to drop are the ones who are also buying the metals at fire sale prices. They will emerge extremely wealthy when the prices rise after the U.S. currency becomes wallpaper.

A little research will identify who these people and organizations are."




"I'd like to add a bit of perspective that might help explain the events as I described. Do you remember former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announcing that the Pentagon was unable to account for $2.3 trillion in the defense budget? That was on September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks of 9/11.

Some suggest that 9/11 was orchestrated, in part to cover up the missing money, which is ludicrous. The result, however, was that suddenly the accounting issue took a back seat because of the attacks. The result will be the same. That's a perfect example of the mechanics of what we are about to experience. It's going to take years to sort out, and when it's finally sorted out, the damage will have long been done."


"Please note a few final things. The relationship that exists between DHS today and the executive branch is well beyond alarming.

DHS and other organizations have
become the private army of the Oval Office.

The NSA, and I've got contacts there, is taking orders from the Oval Office. The IRS is under the virtual control of the Oval Office in a manner that would make Nixon cower. Even though all roads appear to lead to the Oval Office, they lead through the Oval Office. It's not just Obama, but the men behind him, the people who put him there. The people who put him there are the ones who created him."




I asked who created him.

"First, ask yourself why there was such an all out effort to marginalize anyone talking about Obama's eligibility in 2008. Even so-called conservatives pundits fell for the lie that such questions were nothing more than a diversion. They were following a specific drumbeat.

That should tell every rational adult that he is a creation of the globalists who have no allegiance to any political party. He is the product of decades of planning, made for this very time in our history. He was selected to oversee the events I just disclosed. Who has that ability? He's a product of our own intelligence agencies working with the globalists. He should be exhibit 'A' to illustrate the need to enforce the Logan Act. Need I say more?"

As often said by another of my sources, the U.S. is a captured operation. The lie is bigger than most people realize or are willing to confront. That is, until there is no other option. By then, it might be too late.


This report was originally published by Douglass J. Hagmann at The Northeast Intelligence Network. You can follow Doug's nightly broadcasts at the Hagmann and Hagmann Report.








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