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What should we be looking for next? 

"Look around. You're seeing it."


By Douglas J. Hagmann

6 February 2013
The following information was provided to me by my DHS contact on two different occasions.

Information from my first contact was previously published in two parts (here and here). I was asked to withhold the final portion of the information that was provided to me at that time until after the inauguration.

The following resumes where part II left off. At the request of this source and for the sake of continuity, the following combines the information withheld and the information from our most recent contact on 4 February 2013.






DH: Do I have your permission to record this conversation?

RB: Please do.

DH: We've spoken at different times since the information you gave me was published. You have since given me additional information on top of the information you asked me to withhold until after the inauguration. First, what was the reason for asking me to wait to publish the remainder of our discussion until after the inauguration?

RB: This bunch, top level DHS brass, is clamping down on leaks. One way they are finding leakers is to put out false information specific to certain individuals. They can trace the information directly to the leaker due to the nature and specificity of the information. It was part self-preservation, part vetting one of my closest and most important contacts. It was a test to assure that I am not being used for disinformation purposes or being targeted as a leaker. It was something I felt I had to do, and I'm glad I did. I feel more comfortable now about my sources.

DH: So, if I understand you correctly, your sources "passed" whatever test you were performing?

RB: Yes.

DH: And you still have access to information, I mean, whistleblower type information?

RB: I know what you mean, so I guess that's one way to put it. Okay.

DH: For continuity and to refresh your memory, I'm going to play the remainder of our recorded interview from our contact last month.

[At this point, we listened to the dialogue previously recorded. After the recording concluded, this DHS source suggested that we combine new information with the previously recorded information to avoid unnecessary repetition. It was agreed and the recorder was turned back on with his consent].



DH: Just to be clear, let me hit this again. The main reason you asked me to wait to publish your previous statements had more to do with you, your sources and well, your own self preservation than the content of our discussion.

RB: I guess you could say that. But the information is still valid and becomes even more important when combined with the latest information I have for you.

DH: Okay, we can get on with it, then.




RB: First of all, two days after the inauguration, at exactly 7:00 a.m. on January 23, something called "the Cyber-Warriors for Obama Project" was activated. I heard about this the week after the election, but only saw a hardcopy draft in late December. From what I was told, I believe this is a project that is being paid for through funds from Obama's political corporation, the 501(c)4 Organizing for Obama, I believe it's called. I can't be sure, but that's what I was told.

At that time, I was shown a white, three-ring binder with Obama's circular campaign logo imprinted on the outside of the binder with the name "Cyber-Warriors for Obama" printed in blue across the top. Inside were the names and e-mail addresses of 3,575 "cyber assets," or "warriors," listed in alphabetical order under about a dozen or so "team leaders."

From a separate sheet I was shown, most of these "assets" are being paid just over minimum wage, but as I understand it, they work from home and have no overhead. I believe there are about two dozen supervisors who make substantially more.

Now I only had the binder for a minute, and could not take it from the room I was in, so this is strictly from memory.

It was tabbed, and one section with the word "targets" had a list of religious web sites, web sites I recognized as Christian. Another section was a listing of conservative Internet sites. There was another tab with the label "problem sites" that seemed quite extensive. I looked at that section, and it was broken down further into "birther" sites, "pro-gun" sites, "anti-abortion" sites, just to name a few.

There was also a section of the usual news sites, like CNN, ABC, you know. Numerous e-mail addresses were conspicuous under each news organization, which also included Fox... [unintelligible]. I figured you were going to ask.

The first page of the binder had bullet points labeled "objectives" and instructions for the cyber-assets. There was also a very detailed non-disclosure agreement with the word "DRAFT" typed in big, light grey letters across the body of the two-page agreement. The agreement and the instructions were typed on white paper with a warning, printed in red on each page, that the document was not to be copied or disseminated.



DH: Where did you see this? I mean, was it at DHS?

RB: Yes, and that's as much as I can say on the location.

DH: What's the magic behind the number 3,575?

RB: I asked the person showing me [the binder] that question. Supposedly, it has to do with their budget, or the project funding.

DH: Go on.


RB: The instructions seemed very specific.

Infiltrate web forums, collect screen names, avatars, and posters' tag lines, and attempt to resolve these to their actual identities.

I read one paragraph that listed circumstances when the "asset" was only to monitor but do not disrupt without authorization.

There was another section titled "Divert, Disrupt and Destroy," listing "how to's" in certain cases.

There was also a section on maintaining a social media presence, and another on the most effective use of Twitter.


Lastly, there was a "reference section," which included statistics, specific language to use to marginalize different posters, and effective methods to discredit people while maintaining a sense of legitimacy.

It was surreal, to say the least.


Oh, one more thing that's important.

As I said, these "kids," or young people I believe, are known collectively as "Cyber-Warriors for Obama." The subheading was "And the truth shall set you free." 

Truth? Really?

They were hired on their hacking abilities, or more precisely on their abilities to make postings through proxy servers and effectively use alternate identities and multiple e-mail addresses.

Their purpose is to spread disinformation, not truth.

There were also motivational statements on various pages, including one that referred to Obama as the "Pharaoh of the Internet," which I thought was an odd characterization.





But what's important is that suddenly, through the use of Internet aliases, multiple e-mail addresses, and screen names, a project that employs 3,575 people will have the appearance and effectiveness of maybe 10,000 or more different people.



DH: Do you know if these "team members" have their own copies of the binder you saw?

RB: No. I was told that these people were hired through the campaign offices located throughout the country, and that training meetings were held at various locations. The binders were for instructional purposes, not to hand out. Although I think the people have, or were given, a list of web sites.

I don't know any more on the actual mechanics of the project.


DH: During our previous contact, you said that we should listen to Obama's comments about the economy, I mean during the inaugural speech. What's so significant about that?


RB: Well, this is perhaps the most important issue people need to understand. There will be, and was, talk of a recovery and a stronger economy, but it's all propaganda.

As you heard me say in the recording you just played, the complete inaugural address will be a "Baghdad Bob" moment, and it was. Many economists will use false figures and statistics to deceive the American people.

People must not downplay the importance of the economic aspect of this address. The sudden collapse of the U.S. dollar (however it actually plays out) and everything that goes with it (such as social chaos and riots) will be one part of a plan that was set in motion a long time ago.


DH: And you are getting this from your current intelligence sources? Frankly, I'm not sure I completely understand the connection between DHS and what's going on with the economy. Seems like it should be separate.


RB: What's not to understand?

The economic devastation that will take place is an attack, a planned attack on the U.S.

Just look at it that way. This "regime" already knows the outcome, which is the debasement of our national currency.

Like I said, it's been in the works most recently since the 1990's. A collapse does not happen without a lot of pain - people losing everything in their retirement accounts, savings and so on. Don't you think that will cause one hell of a national security problem? And who is running our national or domestic security? DHS.

Oh, and one of the reasons I wanted to include more recent information into our discussion relates to something you did last month, after our talk. I know you said you did not want to source your own work, but there was one important radio program you did that caused a very angry response inside DHS.


DH: How so?

RB: You had a financial insider on your program who went by some letter, like the first or last letter of his name.

DH: Yes, that was "V" who is a source for Steve Quayle. We did a program at the beginning of January, I think – I'd have to look.  [Edited to add that the actual program was 11 January 2013.]

RB: Yeah, that was it. If you ask your network, I think you'll find a request was made for the transcript of that program by DHS. The information given by that source was protected, or confidential, especially regarding the actions of big bankers here in the U.S. and the foreign markets.

These international bankers are playing a big role in killing the U.S., and although they're bold, they still don't want certain things disclosed before their time.


DH: But that information had nothing to do with national security. I mean, how would this relate to DHS?

RB: Now you're giving me a headache [laughter]. Let me spell it out for you, and this is the crux of everything. We have Obama (or whatever his real name is) in the Oval Office. You've said it before, that America is a "captured operation." Well, it is, and every top level operative at DHS and Justice knows it. They have his dossier.


Think about Obama's mother working in microfinance with Timothy Geithner's father. What are the odds? And that's just one "coincidence."


A lot of people won't get this until it's too late, or maybe never get it.

But take a good look at Obama and the people who surround him. Look at the 2008 economic crisis under Bush. Look at the run up to where we're at today. The orchestrated boom of the 1990's. The GLB Act signed into law under Clinton that changed the complexion of our domestic economy. Look at the people who are still around, the architects of this.

It's a big lie!

It's all been rigged, and the insiders know this!

Look at the continuity of agenda since "Bush senior."







Now listen to what I am telling you.

This is a continuing operation that involves many of the same people on both sides of the aisle in Washington. This is one of the reasons why no one wants to talk about Obama's past.



He is the product of a continuing intelligence operation, put in power to oversee the dismantling of the U.S., with the economy being the lynchpin of our destruction.


Obama, Jarrett, and the Clintons are in constant contact with all high level operatives inside the DHS. Perhaps not directly in all cases but through their contacts.

They are working together to see to it that the U.S. economy is brought down, robbing the people of their wealth and then blaming partisan politics for the crash.


For the first time in recent history, you're going to see people hungry and out in the streets.


Those unprepared or those thinking this is all [expletive deleted]will be 

Desperate and begging for food.




(1937 photo by Margaret Bourke-White – Breadline during Louisville Flood)



Think Katrina, but on a national scale.


That's what is being planned for Americans, and few people are willing to see what's happening, or willing to believe it. Now here's where DHS, my sources and information comes in.

Everybody is looking at the gun "problem" in America. Fights over the Second Amendment. State laws that go against the Constitution. Blame it on Sandy Hook or Colorado. Tell people we need to be disarmed because it's for the children.

It's all [expletive deleted]. Most people know it's all [expletive deleted], but that's where their rational assessment stops. Why do you think the people in power want to - no – need to disarm the public?


It's because they are planning
an economic collapse,
and an armed and informed populace
is a danger to their plan.


DH: Wait, wouldn't it make sense to let the guns stay in the hands of the people and have the people shoot it out among themselves?  Wouldn't this fit in with their desire for chaos, and make it easier for Martial Law to be implemented?

RB: In a way, but you're still not thinking big enough. The way this is being planned includes that scenario, but they are very afraid that once total chaos breaks out, they will become the targets. So to a point you're right, but then a crackdown must take place.

DH: But the elected ones are well protected.

RB: Yeah, but you are not thinking like them. There are several scenarios or models they have commissioned. They exist in printed form and have been given to Obama and Jarrett specifically.

It's war gaming with the American people.

That caused some mid-level military people with a conscience to ask what the hell is going on, and some even refused to take part in these exercises. By the way, Napolitano is the go-to person for these models.

Anyway, there is a fear that their own people won't be loyal to them when everything begins to implode. You've been seeing purges lately. Remember what Jarrett supposedly said about being "hell to pay" after the re-election?

That process has started.



DH: Those who have been "purged" – why haven't we seen anyone speak out about what's going on?

RB: They've been threatened. Some were not worth even being threatened and became "examples."

DH: Like who?

RB: Oh c'mon, look at the recent mysterious deaths. Pick one.

DH: Okay, but wouldn't they be safer by speaking out, by telling everything they know? Some ordinary people might call them cowards. Why not just go public?[interrupted/over talk]

RB: Yeah, how'd that work out so far? And go public to who?

CNN? They are in real danger, and so are their families. Anyone close to them.

Even if one or two would go public, how do you think that would work out for them? I'll tell you how. They would make [Senator] McCarthy look like an American hero, which he was, but that's... They've made it so that no one will be able to make any real difference to their agenda. They know that.


DH: So no one is going to say anything – ever?

RB: That's not what I said. Some will talk when the time is right. Some have "insurance policies" that will be used at the right time, when they will make the most difference.

DH: I feel like we're getting off point. So, what is being planned?

RB: The DHS will oversee the domestic crackdown that will happen when the perfect storm bears down on us.

And the perfect storm is the economy, meaning the U.S. dollar collapse and hyperinflation, racial or class riots sparked by a high-profile incident, and another mass causality event involving guns.

Watch for these three things to happen all at once, or in close succession.

The polarization caused by these events will be sufficient to cause a second civil war.





DH: When? How soon will all of this happen?

RB: I don't have a crystal ball, but I have seen various reports referencing unprecedented "drills" to take place in later March and April. I'll mention this because I know a lot of people on the inside at DHS have seen this.

A document called "Operation Thunderdome."

It's maybe 50 or 60 pages, I'm not certain. It describes an economic collapse in the U.S., followed by an attack on the government by "a made-up patriotic group." It combines gun owners, Constitutionalists, and even Christians into an enemy group that pulls off an attack in Washington.

But don't fall into the trap of trying to pick the time of these events. Their plans are flexible, but their objectives are carved in stone.


DH: Sounds like a Reichstag type event - sometime.

RB: Exactly. Maybe not just one. They have plans and back-up plans and back-ups for the back-ups. And in spite of the warnings, and history, enough people will be outraged and side with the government. This brings me to my final point.

What do you think all of the prepositioning of paramilitary assets, caches of ammunition, and the opening of non-descript buildings owned or leased by the federal government are for?

It's for you and people like you.

It's for those who are turned in by their neighbors, friends, co-workers, and others who are hungry, broke and broken.





What we are about to experience
will be like it was
during the Civil War, only worse.

People will be outgunned,
surveillance will be everywhere,
and it will be much more difficult
to hide and fight back.

Not impossible, but more difficult.


DH: So you're painting a picture of a Mad Max scenario, hence the reference to Thunderdome?

RB: Believe it or not, part of the model, or at least one of them, includes the depiction of a somewhat "normal" society, at least after the initial "hostilities."

People will be controlled by the national government, centralized – in order to escape the chaos.

Think of it this way. You want food and medical care?

You will not be able to own a gun, period.

The current federal legislation is all window dressing – a distraction. No one expects anything meaningful to pass. It won't have to. States, yes, but those states are lining up for federal money. The elected leaders are of the same ideology as Obama, but aside from those, we'll see many people turning in their weapons for food, shelter, medical care, and false guarantees of safety. That's what the new normal will look like.

As I said, you've got to think bigger – much bigger.

The lies are bigger than most people can imagine.





The people at the top are laughing at us. Think about that.

They are laughing at us because it's right in front of our noses.

And you know, the bigger the lie...



DH: Yes, the more people will fall for it.

RB: Right. I think we're done here for now. I've given you as much information as I know, as I have seen.

Watch the economy – the indicators. Watch for a false flag.

We are being baited. Let people pooh-pooh this information, seek information through FOI requests. Not gonna happen. We're talking about an operation so black and so big, and one that has to be done in the next few years, under Obama.

This is something that is international in scope. The plan is international, and is dedicated to the dismantling or destruction of America. It's happening right in front of us, but too few can actually see it.



DH: I'm sure you, well... We'll be accused of scaring people without citable evidence.

RB: People need to wake up. Believe me or don't. It's their choice.

DH: Wait, one more thing. What should we be looking for next?

RB: Look around. You're seeing it. We'll talk again. Please shut off the recorder.



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robomont

i was watching abc morning and they had some girl hustling 401ks.
i started yelling at the tv.paul ferrel a noble economist.says the stock market is rigged.and he works for marketwatch.he preachescit at least once a month and he comes out with a collum ofour times a month.
its all a scam and yes it startedcwith clinton.he signed the bill that started the housing bubble.their robbing us with high speed tradesvand keeping gov afloat is what i thinks happening.401s are being robbed to pay ss checks.and welfare.we have looked for ten years for a doctor who takes medicare.what a scam.only good for hospital emergencies.how will we get a doctor under obamacare.wont happen but obama will spend the tax money from obamacare.theyre floating checks basically and we all know
how that ends.

ho
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

thorfourwinds

#2





"Those that give up essential liberty
for a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty or safety."







Published on May 6, 2012
The government has declared it can lock anyone up forever or kill them without any proof or due process.

DHS has placed an order for 450 million rounds of Hollow Point ammo.

Obama can now declare martial law during peace time.

I think that just about says it all.






8:46 Anonymous: March 23, 2013 Martial Law is imminent




"Owning a handgun
doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a
guitar makes you a musician."






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe

The phrase molon labe means "Come and take".

It is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae. It is an exemplary use of a laconic phrase.




FLASH FROM THE PAST

16 July 2012
The UN Arms Trade Treaty that has been identified by observers as a flagrant threat to the second amendment and which Barack Obama is determined to sign has its roots in a 1961 State Department memorandum explains how

the United Nations will oversee
"complete disarmament"
of the American people

under the ruse of preventing war.


The UN Arms Treaty has controversy because it outlines a plan to target "all types of conventional weapons, notably including small arms and light weapons," according to Forbes' Larry Bell.



QuoteIf the UN has its way, all humans on this planet, except perhaps the political elite in both democracies and dictatorships, and members of the criminal class, will be defenseless against armed thugs, greedy, genocidal governments and worldwide organized crime syndicates.








"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."



This is why all law-abiding American gun owners need to keep their eyes and ears open wide, constantly on the lookout for supposed "incremental changes" in gun laws that are proposed as "common sense solutions" to the "gun problem" by firearms-phobic elitists and anti-gun activists.

If we don't pay attention to current events and speak up loudly, clearly and forcefully, the day may soon come when blue-helmeted forces of the UN, assisted by our own US government, will come knocking on our doors, "politely" asking for our guns, our ammo, and our God-given right to protect ourselves, our families, and our country.

Semper Paratum.

Stay prepared, America.








Published on May 3, 2012
John Moore said he got news from CIA Headquarters, a report that says within the next 7 months, there will be between 30,000 - 100,000 Russian Troops coming to America to stay.

First wave of troops begins on May 21, 2012.




"Gun Control:
The theory that a woman found dead in an alley,
raped and strangled with her panty hose,
is morally superior to a woman
explaining to police how her attacker got
that fatal bullet wound."






Peace Love Light

Liberty & Equality or Revolution
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thorfourwinds

#3





Published on Mar 4, 2013
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for "massive civil war" in America.

The federal government is preparing for civil uprising," he added,

"so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising."


There's no hyperbole here,"
he added, echoing Trends Research Institute's Founder Gerald Celente's forecast of last year. Celente expects a collapse of the U.S. dollar and riots in America some time this year.

Since Celente's 'Civil War' prediction of last year, executive orders NDAA and National Defense Resources Preparedness were signed into law by President Obama, which are both politically damaging actions taken by a sitting president.

And most recently, requests made by the DHS for the procurement of 450 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition only fuels speculation of an upcoming tragic event expected on American soil.

These major events, as shocking to the American people as they are, have taken place during an election year.

Escalating preparatory activities by the executive branch and DHS throughout the last decade—from the Patriot Act, to countless executive orders drafted to suspend (or strip) American civil liberties "are just the beginning" of the nightmare to come.
 
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thorfourwinds

#4



We were warned by none other than 'our own' esteemed member  Bobby Powell way back when - June, and then again in November of 2012.


Published on Jun 27, 2012

Slavery is once more legal in the United States thanks to language buried deep inside Executive Order 13603, which Barack Obama signed into law on March 16th 2012.

According to this Executive Order the President, or those he designates, can conscript



"persons of outstanding experience
and ability without compensation,"
in "peacetime and times of national emergency."



In a nutshell, that means that Barack Obama, and those he designates, can seize any resource, property, or person at any time for any reason, forcing that person to labor without being paid.

There is only ONE definition for forced, "uncompensated employment."



That definition is slavery.

This episode also includes an appeal to Federal, State, County, and Local law enforcement officers to uphold the oath they took to "Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States," by defending the citizens they have sworn to protect, even when the aggressor is a Federal Government that has devolved into nothing more than a Tyranny where one man (or those he designates) can order the enslavement of its citizens, their detention in labor and re-education camps - even their deaths - simply by signing a piece of paper.




Obama Institutes Slavery In US By Executive Order: A Plea To Law Enforcement (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube


Executive Order 13603

Internment and Resettlement Field Manual



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Pimander

You have had slavery in the US for years.  It is called workfare.

thorfourwinds

#6



Obama's "Cyber-warriors" caught in gun control action


25 February 2013

We initially disclosed the existence of Obama's "cyber-warriors" in an article published on 6 February 2013 under the title DHS Insider: Obama's cyber-warriors & preparing for collapse.

Today, a Texas lawmaker has reportedly caught Obama's cyber-warriors in action, using fraudulent Twitter accounts to sway the gun control argument. According to Rep. Steve Stockman, Obama is using fictitious Twitter accounts to make it appear that there is more public support for gun control than really exists.

Rep. Stockman analyzed 16 Twitter messages he received favoring Obama's gun control initiative, finding that 10 out of the 16 were from accounts or people that don't exist
.

They are fake accounts,
or computer generated spambots,

according to Mr. Stockman.

Recent contact with my DHS insider verified that all social media is being heavily infiltrated by full-time workers under Obama's "Cyber-Warriors for Obama" project that began on January 23, 2013, just two days after his inauguration.

According to this insider, over 3,500 people are working to infiltrate various news and political sites on the internet. Their intent is to disrupt, divert topics, marginalize political opponents of Obama, and control as much public sentiment in favor of Obama as possible. "It's a propaganda  campaign that would make Joseph Goebbels jealous.

" This is merely the start. Expect more," stated this insider.

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Pimander

You also have privately owned - mostly black - prison labour.  Somebody makes a lot of money from that...  Looks like slavery is going strong in the USA.

thorfourwinds





GOP lawmaker: Obama using fake Twitter messages in fight over gun control


25 February 2013

By Pete Kasperowicz

A Texas Republican on Monday said President Obama's gun control campaign is a fraud based on fake messages over Twitter. 

Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) accused Obama of trying to make support for his position look stronger than it really is by flooding Twitter with messages from people who don't exist.?

"Obama's anti-gun campaign is a fraud,"

Stockman said. "Obama's supporters are panicking and willing to do anything to create the appearance of popular support, even if it means trying to defraud Congress," he added. "I call upon the president to denounce this phony spam campaign."


Stockman said that in response to Obama's call for people to tweet their congressman in support of gun control legislation, he received just 16 tweets. But he said all of these messages were identical, and that a closer look at them revealed that only six were from real people.??

"The other 10 are fake, computer-generated spambots," his office said in a press release. As evidence, he said these 10 tweets use default graphics and names, and have not engaged in any interaction with other people.

Two of the tweets were sent at nearly the same time, and both follow just one person:

Brad Schenck, Obama's former digital strategist.

Stockman said Obama's anti-gun activists are trying to defraud Congress using the same scam that sells 'male enhancement pills.'

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sky otter


P
would you mind explanding this a bit so i don't misunderstand your point
thank you

QuoteYou also have privately owned - mostly black - prison labour.  Somebody makes a lot of money from that...  Looks like slavery is going strong in the USA.

astr0144

Excellent thread again T4Ws.

But VERY depressing.  :(

I prey that it does not happen.

Pimander

Quote from: sky otter on March 18, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
would you mind explanding this a bit so i don't misunderstand your point
An executive order that permits slavery is mentioned as being a big worry in the thread.  Well you already have slavery and your citizens don't seem that concerned is my point.  You (collectively) have guns but you permit slavery.  Why?

sky otter

#12

thanks for your response 
but i was referring to the black prison labor remark
you have helped me educate myself as to the immensity of it


i think if you told the average person that prisoners were doing these things they would say good..earning their keep from the tax dollars
but i would also say they would be screaming NOOOOOOOO if theyknew it was privately held prisons making a profit

as for the gun debate..lets just say we will probably stay on opposite sides of that one ;D






http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

What has happened over the last 10 years? Why are there so many prisoners?

"The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners' work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself," says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being "an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps."

The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. "This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors."

According to the Left Business Observer, the federal prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, ammunition belts, bullet-proof vests, ID tags, shirts, pants, tents, bags, and canteens. Along with war supplies, prison workers supply 98% of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93% of paints and paintbrushes; 92% of stove assembly; 46% of body armor; 36% of home appliances; 30% of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21% of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies, and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.


....................
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/07/06/261319/scott-walker-prison-labor/?mobile=nc

Union Workers Replaced With Prison Labor Under Scott Walker's Collective Bargaining Law
By Alex Seitz-Wald on Jul 6, 2011 at 4:57 pm

While Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's (R) law dismantling collective bargaining rights has harmed teachers, nurses, and other civil servants, it's helping a different group in Wisconsinites — inmates. Prisoners are now taking up jobs that used to be held by unionized workers in some parts of the state.
As the Madison Capital Times reports, "Besides losing their right to negotiate over the percentage of their paycheck that will go toward health care and retirement, unions also lost the ability to claim work as a 'union-only' job, opening the door for private workers and evidently even inmates to step in and take their place." Inmates are not paid for their work, but may receive time off of their sentences.

The law went into effect last week, and Racine County is already using inmates to do landscaping, painting, and another basic maintenance around the county that was previously done by county workers. The union had successfully sued to stop the country from using prison labor for these jobs last year, but with Walker's new law, they have no recourse. Watch a report from Fox6 in Green Bay:

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a search for how many prisons are privately owned turn up this:


http://www.propublica.org/article/by-the-numbers-the-u.s.s-growing-for-profit-detention-industry
By the Numbers: The U.S.'s Growing For-Profit Detention Industry

The growth of the private detention industry has long been a subject of scrutiny. A recent eight-part series in the New Orleans Times-Picayune [1] chronicled how more than half of Louisiana's 40,000 inmates are housed in prisons run by sheriffs or private companies as part of a broader financial incentive scheme. The detention business goes beyond just criminal prisoners.

As a Huffington Post investigation pointed out last month, nearly half of all immigrant detainees [2] are now held in privately run detention facilities. Just this week, the New York Times delved into lax oversight [3] at industrial-sized but privately run halfway houses in New Jersey.

We've taken a look at some of the numbers associated with the billion-dollar and wide-ranging for-profit detention industry—and the two companies that dominate the market:


General Statistics:

1.6 million: Total number of state and federal prisoners in the United States as of December 2010, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics [4]

128,195: Number of state and federal prisoners housed in private facilities as of December 2010

37: percent by which number of prisoners in private facilities increased [5] between 2002 and 2009

217,690: Total federal inmate population as of May 2012, according to the Bureau of Prisons [6]

27,970: Number of federal inmates in privately managed facilities within the Bureau of Prisons

33,330: Estimated size of detained immigrant population as of 2011, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security [7]


Corrections Corporation of America

66: number of facilities owned and operated by Corrections Corporation of America [8], the country's largest private prison company based on number of facilities

91,000: number of beds available in CCA facilities across 20 states and the District of Columbia

$1.7 billion: total revenue [9] recorded by CCA in 2011

$17.4 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 10 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics [10]

$1.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics [11]

$3.7 million: executive compensation [12] for CEO Damon T. Hininger in 2011

132: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults [13] at CCA-run Idaho Correctional Center between Sept. 2007 and Sept. 2008


42: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at the state-run Idaho State Correctional Institution in the same time frame (both prisons at the time held about 1,500 inmates)

The Geo Group, Inc., the U.S.'s second largest private detention company

$1.6 billion: total revenue in year 2011, according to its annual report [14]

65: number of domestic correctional facilities owned and operated by Geo Group, Inc [15].

65,716: number of beds available in Geo Group, Inc.'s domestic correctional facilities

$2.5 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 8 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics [16]

$2.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics [17]

$5.7 million: executive compensation [18] for CEO George C. Zoley in 2011

$6.5 million: damages awarded [19] in a wrongful death lawsuit against the company last June for the beating death of an inmate by his cellmate at a GEO Group-run Oklahoma prison. An appeal has been filed and is pending.

$1.1 million: fine levied against the company in November 2011 by the New Mexico Department of Corrections for inadequate staffing [20] at one of its prisons


a long list of reference is at this link

http://www.propublica.org/article/by-the-numbers-the-u.s.s-growing-for-profit-detention-industry

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i find this much more alarming that the bs put out by shouting humans like hagman and booby those self procalimed  i told you it was happening folk

here are some other things i found





http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/about/staff

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http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2300/uh-oh-northeast-intelligence-network-steps-in-it-fake-terrorism-expert-douglas-hagmann-admits-plagiarism-fabricated-info/


R-i-i-i-ight. If Hagmann had only resisted the urge to rip off others and had given me proper credit, I'd never have had a reason to expose him as the uber fraud that he is–something I've been hearing about for years. But now, his continuing lying and fabricating of information is betraying his phoniness even more.
In a post today, Hagmann admits he's a plagiarist. He names a number of plagiarists and then states, "I am in good company." I'm so glad he's finally told the truth and admitted it. But he still has not changed the entry he stole from me–neither crediting me with the work he shop-lifted, and printing a retraction.
Then, there is the new information that Hagmann makes up. His fabricating skills show us in spades what kind of "investigator" he is. As in, one who can't even read English and is too lazy to do any real work. Apparently, when he is forced to do his own work instead of stealing it from others, it's kinda tough for him to perform. No wonder the apparent UFO/Bigfoot afficionado quit "working" as a private investigator. Who would hire him?

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http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2284/northeast-intelligence-network-or-northeast-plagiarism-network/

Northeast "Intelligence" Network or Northeast Plagiarism Network?
By Debbie Schlussel
The old adage says that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But actually, that's not always true. In the world of writing and research, imitation is the most insincere form of armed robbery. But, at least in a real armed robbery, you usually see the guy with his gun and you know he is stealing from you. With plagiarists, they just steal your hard work behind your back.
That was the case with the so-called Northeast Intelligence Network a/k/a NEIN a/k/a HomelandSecurityUS.com and its main operator, Douglas J. Hagmann, who on Monday, ripped off something I wrote–passing it off as the work of himself and his site's "investigators," who apparently don't even exist. If the intelligence and terrorism expertise business is a matter of stealing the work of others and passing it off as your own, then I guess he's good at it.


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a lot of embedded links to the actual executive orders here.. it would be a good thing to read it for yourself..imo

Executive Order 13603
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The National Defense Resources Preparedness executive order (Executive Order 13603) is an order of the United States's President signed by President Barack Obama on March 16, 2012.[1] The purpose of this executive order is to delegate authority and address national defense resource policies and programs under the Defense Production Act of 1950.[1] Executive Order 13603 provides the framework and authority for the allocation or appropriation of resources, materials and services to promote national defense.[2]

While some have labeled the executive order totalitarian and a preparation for peace-time martial law,[3] it has also been called a consolidation of existing laws and directives, being based on Executive Order 10421 and Executive Order 11490.[4][5]




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QuoteYou have had slavery in the US for years.  It is called workfare.

we don't have workfare in the u.s.  but we do have welfare.. is that what you meant?
now that program like a lot of things was wel intented but has been horribly abused


http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/

http://www.workfare.sg/

http://www.wda.gov.sg/content/wdawebsite/programmes_and_initiatives/L701C-WTS.html

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Amaterasu

Nice work, Thor!

Indeed, it is...I wouldn't choose "depressing..."  I would say "activating."  It adds so much fuel to the fire of change - REAL, POSITIVE change.

I suppose I could choose to depress, but rather, I would spread ideas that will peacefully undermine these plans.

But truth be told, the vast majority of what is presented here I had worked out.  Just asking Myself what *I* would do if I was rich and psychopathic and wanted complete control led to most of this behavior choice.

So...  All help in spreading ideas is very much appreciated.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

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this is scary....more so that fema

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