The 1897 Alien Crash Landing at Aurora, Texas

The Seeker · January 17, 2017, 11:47:58 PM

Shasta56 · January 18, 2017, 03:00:57 AM

It's certainly an interesting story. I don't currently possess the ability to revisit the incident in person, and I have no plans to visit Texas, so I wouldn't even be able to scry for anything in the area. Too bad. We need public acceptable evidence of visitors from elsewhere.

Shasta

astr0144 · January 18, 2017, 11:51:02 AM

Is this just your own theory or something that you have seen suggested elsewhere Robo ?

I am not sure how big a Town Aurora is now or compares to back in 1897... but I suspect that it was not that big back then and probably had no hospital... Even if it had , Id be doubful they would have any records of back then.

I was not aware that there may had been many other similar claims of UFO stuff back then....My impression is that overall there was few things that related to UFO stuff before WW2 in the 1930s/40s.

If you think that there are other similar story's to this back then, I will have to try doing some searchs to links to them..

Quote from: robomont on January 17, 2017, 04:00:07 AM
Imho,it was a blimp powered by steam for thrust and hydrogen for lift.the owner had a dog with the skin tag virus.
The dog died in crash and got blood all over bits,these bits were thrown in well and owner of well bathed in water years later,thus getting massive skin tags.
Owner of craft hauled butt so as not to pay for damages to windmill.dog was buried and assumed to be alien.as hair would have been burned off dog from hydrogen fire and looked alien.due to mutilation in wreck.aurora is milking story for publicity.look for maybe hospital record of pilot who shows up burned or broken leg etc.lol.if that existed still but i doubt it.there was many records of ufo landing and man collecting pond water during this time period.my guess is fuel was kerosene.back them crazy folks tried anything to fly and tech was known in germany and maybe newyork.aluminum was only manufactured in germany back then and supposedly al was found.

astr0144 · January 18, 2017, 12:15:11 PM

Generally if it was some type of airship / balloon.. they travel slow and although large may seem to have little weight / mass...(If the Balloon is mainly containing gas)..

If it was some other smaller object with low mass... then it could well have been travelling faster and still created an equal amount of energy on impact..
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I think with Einstein's famous Formula... E = MC

You could have a very small low weight object , say such as a 5 mm diameter spherical ball-bearing ...but if it travels extremely fast the energy impact can be the same as a much larger heavier mass object that travels slow..

but I am not sure if this has to apply to something that travels at the speed of Light...

Maybe that also suggests you can also have something as small as say a Non Nuclear metallic like /sized atom and if it travels fast enough... that it could still cause such destruction even if its a lighter element than the Nuclear (Uranium/ Plutonium elements)..

I watched a program some weeks ago where Scientists where firing small size ball bearings at very high speeds along what looked like a very long Gun Barrel or straight section of a HLC (cant recall what speeds ..but I don't think it was like speeds in the Hadron collider but was probably much faster than a bullet ) and measuring the impact..and the energy destruction was remarkable...for such a small very light weight object..

QuoteI suppose it depends on how the structure was made, as although floating in the air those airships had enough mass to destroy things. The one I posted above, "La France", was powered by a 435 kg battery, so even at 10 miles per hour it had enough energy in it to make serious damages.

ArMaP · January 19, 2017, 12:56:37 AM

The formula for kinetic energy is E = 1/2 m v², so doubling the mass doubles the energy.

robomont · January 19, 2017, 03:41:45 AM

What parts the pond water?
Ive read sooo many ufo reports over the years,i cant remember but its in that section of time,aurora wasnt the only report back then,just only one really pushed in last 10 years from that time period.the al is the key as only germany had al back then from my research,goo first al produced enmasse.it was very rare back then.maybe goo 1800s ufo pond water etc.im pretty sure in my mind that it was a blimp from my own research.lets face it,all the ufo tech is usually 20 years ahead or more once realized whats really going on and the blimp fits the bill when researching patents from that time period.but like i said ,the al is the key.which points to germany.wasnt jules vern from that era and had a flying ship story or such.the hints are in the fiction written back then.imho.as it is these days.
Repeatedly as if these guys were freemasons or something and kinda colluded together like mark twain and tesla.most dont realize those two guys hung out.same kinda deal.

astr0144 · January 19, 2017, 04:54:24 AM

I think that the formulas for Energy are similar....

Both Contain Mass and Velocity (or speed)..

Einsteins theory E = M.C2 is similar to the Kinectic Energy Formula where C2 speed of light squared is like the velocity squared..

But no doubt anything with that travels the speed of light would have a lot more energy than any Velocity less than the speed of light or what sort of velocities that we generally use on Earth..

Both Increasing the Mass or the velocity would increase the Energy..

In the eg that I gave about the Long Gun firing a small mass at very high speed... the damage that it could do may appear as equal or great as that of a large mass that only has a low velocity.. but no doubt it all depends upon to what degree..

ArMaP

QuoteThe formula for kinetic energy is E = 1/2 m v2, so doubling the mass doubles the energy.

Yes , I suppose its possible that it maybe possible that they has the sort of technology in the late 1890s that they had in WW2... if say that it had been 40 to 50 years ahead of what we have been led to accept...

But for me so far I think that I have not been aware of many storys of UFOs in the Wild West before 1900s....

other than things that I have seen more lately described in the likes if the "Ancient Alien" series...

Not fully clear what you mean on that Robo...
Are you referring to some UFOs landing and taking samples of Pond water.. or is it to suggest that the UFO was a Blimp flying around and landing and a human taking samples of water rather than it being a UFO landing and an Alien taking samples ?

Robo

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What parts the pond water?

there was many records of ufo landing and man collecting pond water during this time period

Quote from: robomont on January 19, 2017, 03:41:45 AM
What parts the pond water?
Ive read sooo many ufo reports over the years,i cant remember but its in that section of time,aurora wasnt the only report back then,just only one really pushed in last 10 years from that time period.the al is the key as only germany had al back then from my research,goo first al produced enmasse.it was very rare back then.maybe goo 1800s ufo pond water etc.im pretty sure in my mind that it was a blimp from my own research.lets face it,all the ufo tech is usually 20 years ahead or more once realized whats really going on and the blimp fits the bill when researching patents from that time period.but like i said ,the al is the key.which points to germany.wasnt jules vern from that era and had a flying ship story or such.the hints are in the fiction written back then.imho.as it is these days.
Repeatedly as if these guys were freemasons or something and kinda colluded together like mark twain and tesla.most dont realize those two guys hung out.same kinda deal.

robomont · January 20, 2017, 02:28:41 AM

No im saying guy ran out of water for steam.the steam was vented out end of blimp for thrust,super heated steam has alot of thrust.or maybe he used it just for stearing and used wind for propulsion.
A bag in front part of blimp and a donut in back,with steam coming out through donut hole.both bags being hydrogen.as helium really didnt exist back then.a middle compartment was where all the gear was in this blimp.as in most blimps.
Oh the humanity was this blimps ending also.which leads back to germany and the hindenburg which was just years out.central texas ,where aurora is, has a large german population.my guess is a rich german scientist visiting relatives or checking out the situation.i wonder if any barons were crippled or seriously injured around this time period.

robomont · January 20, 2017, 02:40:36 AM

aluminiumleader.com

My bad.but maybe hints.i for one would go towards hall as hall name is synonymous with ufo tech.big time!
Hall is a big name in texas and the congressman hall just retirex in texas andvhe headed the scientific commitee.theres hall effect in physics that can be directly related to mhd.
Theres more about hall that i cant talk about at this point in time.

astr0144 · January 20, 2017, 02:41:51 PM

Its amazing what some people know !

Some interesting comments you make there Robo that may well be the right answers to the Aurora UFO story.

The Aluminiumleader link you posted shows some of the airships that they now make..and no doubt if one was to see one of them flying over , it could easily be taken for a UFO...

Very Impressive !

One query I have is that the website appears to also have some Russian connection ..