Solar Warden - William Tomkins

[zorgon]

Okay THIS is WEIRD

Timeline related? Maybe  because I never saw this in the other one

When I was younger and an Apollo Groupie, I had heard the broadcast over Ham radio (I had a Mark 10 tank radio tuned to ham frequencies ) about the space ships Apollo ran into on the moon...  I wish I had known at the time that they would hide all that and would have recorded it

Well today someone on FB posted THIS





Never seen this nor heard of William tompkins before...



So now I have a new project

[zorgon]

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-founders-of-solar-warden-with-william-tompkins.html

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: FOUNDERS OF SOLAR WARDEN WITH WILLIAM TOMPKINS

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to "Cosmic Disclosure". I'm your host, David Wilcock. We're here with Corey Goode.

And in this episode, we have deeper insights into the Secret Space Program, with the astonishing disclosures of William Tompkins, our 94-year-old aerospace engineer who is clearly one of the founding fathers of the very Solar Warden program which he named – that same code name – that Corey later worked in.

In this first interview that we're going to show you, Tompkins gets into detail about one of the craft designs that he was working on for the Navy. Let's take a look.

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NAVAL GALACTIC BATTLE GROUP

William Tompkins: So we talked before about the different types. And this is a two-kilometer long spacecraft carrier, and it's streamlined to a degree.





nd so in one of the big design review meetings, one of the managers said, "Wait a minute, Bill, it's a vacuum out there. You don't have to make it pointed. You don't have to have atmosphere to go working through."

And so I said, "Well, that's true, but the electromagnetic protection system, which we still are not sure how we're going to word, may or may not be capable of handling all of the different types of vehicles or weapons that could be . . . being used on us. And also, under certain conditions, we actually can get into the planet's atmosphere and operate. So anyway, we got around that one.

Now, if you can picture here this area down in here [Bill points to the bottom, center of the craft] . . . I'm going to switch these, and you're going to see the lower part of the hull.





And what you see there is the different classes of attack and fighter aircraft returning to the mothership, or the spacecraft carrier, and with a vacuum-controlled entry sections . . . Actually, they would design to fold down so that you're already in support of making inside landing.

Nobody actually flies in these squadrons controlling any of the vehicles. It's all automatic, so you're not going to be hitting the walls or any of this kind of thing.

But very quickly, you can open these hatches on the side. The hatch then becomes sort of a platform to possibly land on if you're too low. And this answers the question of how do we handle the large spaces aboard the ships that are going to be operating on the missions.

So what we had done then was, using the same type of design concepts, we looked at the Marines' missions. We looked at the communication missions. We actually came up with virtually hundreds, then, of missions and sub-missions that we then in the tank [think tank] made recommendations back to the Navy themselves.

And one admiral, when he saw that first illustration, he made the statement that just the shape of that's going to scare them away. They'll turn around and go back, because it is a pretty hot configuration.

Some of the others are not as good and actually some of them are rectangular, depending on what the mission is required to accomplish.

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David: So that's a pretty technically detailed diagram. And it's just one of a variety of things that come from this guy who has no financial interest in this. His book didn't sell very much. He's just living on a fixed income. And yet, that degree of precision in the art doesn't seem like it would be coming from somebody who's trying to make something up.

So I'm curious about how similar that looks to anything that you saw?

Corey Goode: That was most likely one of the concept designs that probably got fine-tuned. But there could be a craft that looks like that out there that I hadn't seen. I didn't see all of our vessels out there.

Now, that looked very similar to longer, wedge-shaped vessels that I saw that had areas coming up off the top almost like you see on a Navy vessel on the ocean.

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And also, it had stealth edges. The corners were very much like the stealth ships that you see – how they curve.

David: Well, and something kind of caught my eye, which is that in his discussions with his superiors on the design, they said, "Oh, you don't need to worry about aerodynamics. It's not going through an atmosphere."

But what I'm thinking of is, "Wait a minute. There's all this charge that you've got to move through even in space. There's inertia and there's electromagnetic fields.

So do you think that part of the reason why everything has an aerodynamic shape is that the basic vacuum energy of space itself has some sort of resistance that you have to cut through when you go through it?

Corey: They don't all have the aerodynamic shape.

David: Oh, okay.



Corey: And as far as moving through charged particles and all this stuff in space, that's what the material on the outside of the craft and the electromagnetic shielding is for.

David: But in a case like this, for that particular mission, if it's also going to go through a planet's atmosphere, it would be good to have some aerodynamic qualities.

Corey: Right. The vessels that travel inside our atmosphere and out are usually going to be somewhat aerodynamic, even though with the propulsion systems they have they are not traveling through the atmosphere per se. They are in a bubble. And inside that bubble, the bubble is traveling.

David: Is there a reason for why stealth technology seems to involve these different flat panels that are kind of arranged at different angles? What's going on there?

Corey: It deflects radar, lidar, different waves, away from the receiver of the radar or lidar. So how it works is if you send it out and it hits a flat surface that is angled right, it's going to come back and you're going to get a report from that wave bouncing back.

If you have sharp angles, then very little of that wave is going to bounce back. The rest of it's going to be dispersed, and the waves will bounce off, but they're not going to hit the detector.

David: Well, I know that my insider Pete Peterson described that when the stealth was rolled out for Gulf War I, that it had in fact been mothballed for 20 years and was a very archaic and almost useless piece of technology by that time. Here he's [Tompkins] doing something in the 1950s that looks like stealth.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So that's pretty darn interesting.

Corey: Stealth goes way back.

David: Really?

Corey: Right. Stealth was being developed soon after the discovery and invention of the radar.

David: Wow! So I noticed in the second image that he showed that you have these very, very large doors, or hatches, as he was calling them, that open up on the side of the craft, and then a lot of little triangular wedges going in.

So what was your feeling when you saw that part of the illustration?

Corey: Well, as far as the doors opening, I had seen elevators that lift aircraft, move aircraft around. But if you have a door opening out, that can cause a lot of logistical problems if you're in battle or if you are traveling at a high rate of speed.

So usually, they have the doors open like this [side to side], up and down, and not protrude out.

David: Right.

Corey: But if there was another purpose and a need for it, I could see why they would develop it.

David: What about the actual shape of all those craft that were going into the larger craft?

Corey: Yes, that was very familiar. And the fact that he mentioned in these newer vessels or carriers, they do fly drones. They have people all inside [buildings or large craft] sitting in long rows flying drones, and they control a number of drones apiece.

David: Really.

Corey: Yeah. Little constellations of drones.

David: So what would this type of craft that he was designing be used for? Is it an attack craft? Is this a support craft?

Corey: It can be offensive and defensive, but usually these craft are designed to be offensive for attacking an enemy.

David: Does the Space Program have any proclivity towards doing an offensive attack on a civilization that they think they could conquer and overwhelm? Or is there also . . . is it mostly going to be defensive when they're out there trying to see what's around and getting attacked?

Corey: Well, it depends on who is in charge of, I guess, the Navy assets at the time. These people follow orders. So if they have a problem with attacking another species, they have to follow orders.

David: Well, in the case of a movie like "Avatar", we have a clear example of our own government/military-industrial complex, in what would appear to be the future, having developed a space program, going to another planet with people who are tall and have blue skin, but there was something there that they really wanted, which was this unobtainium.

Do you think "Avatar" is describing something that is actually happening? Are there certain cases where planets are invaded for their materials?

Corey: Well, I do know that certain aspects of the ICC, but especially Dark Fleet, are going out on offensive conquering missions. And they're doing this alongside the Reptilians.

David: Well, and I do also remember Pete Peterson telling me that many of the craft that you see in "Avatar" are exactly identical to stuff that he had actually seen or worked on. I'm wondering if any of them look familiar to you when you saw the movie?

Corey: I didn't witness a whole lot of craft that flew inside of an atmosphere.

David: Ah.

Corey: So all of those craft were clearly designed to fly inside of some sort of a dense atmosphere. The craft that I saw were not built to operate in atmosphere.

David: All right. Well, speaking of James Cameron, not only do we have "Avatar", he also had that movie "The Abyss", where he describes extraterrestrials underneath the surface of the ocean.

And here we have William Tompkins in a very interesting discussion about undersea bases. Let's take a look.

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/transcript-cosmic-disclosure-founders-of-solar-warden-with-william-tompkins.html

[Somamech]

Found this on exopolitics:

Top Aerospace Designer Blows Whistle on Secret US Navy Space Battle Fleets

http://exopolitics.org/top-aerospace-designer-blows-whistle-on-secret-us-navy-space-battle-fleets/

[The Seeker]

Zorgon, don't forget about this here:

Jeff Rense & William Tompkins - The Moon is an Alien Command Center

and there is this from exopolitics

    Retired aerospace engineer, William Tompkins, has just given his most detailed account yet about the operations of secret space programs on the September 27 episode of Cosmic Disclosure. Many of Tompkins' revelations corroborate the earlier testimony of the show's primary whistleblower, Corey Goode, who first publicly came forward in late 2014.

    Previously, Tompkins has described in his book, Selected by Extraterrestrials, and in subsequent interviews, his involvement in two space programs. First came his assignment in intelligence operations on a German/Nazi led secret space program during the World War II, much of which was relocated to Antarctica. This space program evolved into what Goode later described as the "Dark Fleet."

    After the War, Tompkins became directly involved in the development of a U.S. Navy secret space program called "Solar Warden," where he provided the early draft designs for kilometers long spacecraft and non-terrestrial bases, while working at the Douglas Aircraft Company from 1951 to 1963. Solar Warden, according to Tompkins, became operational in the early 1980s.

    Tompkins's role in these space programs is supported by a number of documents provided in Selected by Extraterrestrials, and others provided in a March 2016 interview. In addition, FOIA documents have just been made available (to be described in an upcoming article), which confirm key details about Tompkins involvement in a Navy led espionage program aimed at infiltration of Nazi antigravity research projects during World War II.
    Navy League Board Meeting (2)

    Minutes of Meeting discussing Special Projects Committee. Click to Enlarge

    Tompkins' revelations about the current operations of secret space programs derive from two periods in his life. First is his time at the helm of the Rogue Valley (Medford), Oregon chapter of the U.S. Navy League from 1985 to 1999. During this period, he was given briefings about operations of secret space programs and extraterrestrial life, and shared some of this information through a "Special Projects Committee"; with retired Navy, Marine and USAF officers and their children.

    Corroboration for Tompkins' statements about the Navy League Special Projects Committee comes both from related documents and two retired Navy officers who confirmed key aspects of his testimony. Furthermore, Tompkins says that Admiral Hugh Webster, who ran the U.S. Navy League chapter in San Diego and was an executive officer for it nationally, was initially briefed about the Navy's secret space program by Tompkins in 1985. Webster subsequently began a similar operation in San Diego, and became part of the Navy's covert operations.

    The second period in which Tompkins learned about the operational details of the Navy's secret space program began in 2000, when he moved to San Diego, giving him more opportunities to work directly with Webster. It was Admiral Webster who gave Tompkins permission to write his autobiography and reveal all he knew about the Navy's secret space program.

    Tompkins has further disclosed that he is a participant in the Navy's annual "West" meetings in San Diego, where leading aerospace companies come together to share their research and development findings. Among the purposes of these meetings is the goal of finding the latest technologies that may be of use for the Navy's secret space program.

    Tompkins says that he has attended all of these Navy West meetings since the year 2000, and plans to attend again in 2017 because he still has clearance to be present at classified meetings. Tompkins is currently 93, with a sharp mind, excellent memory and still physically healthy. It would be fair to say that he is considered to be a "wise elder" among those running current operations with the Navy's secret space program.

    Given Tompkins' background, and continuing involvement with the Navy's Solar Warden program, his statements about its current operations bear special significance.

    These are some of the highlights of what he revealed during his Gaia TV interview.

    Thousands, thousands, not just a few, thousands of people have joined the Navy here in the United States. They joined the Space Navy. They signed up for a 20-year tour. So these folks, men and women, were given a lot of examinations and a lot of information on what they were going to need.

    Many of them went to the Moon, our Moon, and facilities there and got checked out and organized and established where is the best place they're going to go, what their criteria is going to be, what major area they're going to develop, like what class in the university. And then they get sent to a Mars facility for a short time.

    Tompkins' comments here are especially noteworthy. They corroborate the testimony of Goode, who asserted that there are thousands of personnel involved in the Navy's secret space program. He and another alleged whistleblower, Randy Cramer, spoke of an operations center on the Moon called Lunar Operations Command, and both claim they were taken there in 1987 for their formal inductions.

    lunar-operations-command

    During his interview, Tompkins describes how secret space program personnel are assigned after the induction:

    And then they get assigned to a specific base. And they work for a short time in the base before they're assigned a naval cruiser, or a naval attack vehicle, or even a naval spacecraft carrier, which are one, two, and four kilometer long class. And we have eight of those battle groups out there. So there's plenty of room for new people to come aboard....

    The above statement corroborates what Goode claims he underwent after his induction at Lunar Operations Center. He was assigned to the research vessel, the Arnold Sommerfeld, where he spent six years performing a number of science and exploratory missions in the solar system.

    Tompkins next corroborates Goode and Cramer's claims, along with a third whistleblower, Michael Relfe, about what happened at the end of their 20 and back programs:

    So at the end of the 20 years, they have an option for another 20 years. They could go for another 20 years. Or they have the option to come back to Earth where they were born and where they entered the Navy.

    And then they make this decision they want to come back. So they age regress. They're now 20 years older than when they joined the Space Navy, okay? And so they take several weeks or several months, and they reverse their age back to 21 when they joined the Navy....

    And now, during that several weeks returning, their minds, not painfully, but their minds are played with to where 90.99 [likely meant to say 99.99 percent] of their memory for the last 20 years out in space is removed.

    In the book, Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and Extraterrestrial Alliances, a chapter is devoted to a comparative study of the testimonies of Goode, Cramer and Relfe. Tompkins' testimony adds a significant level of credibility to what each of these individuals had to say about how they were treated at the end of their secret space program 20 year tours of duty.

    Before the close of the interview, Tompkins revealed his knowledge about a corporate run space program that emerged to rival the Navy's Solar Warden program:

    But the corporations, at the same time they were doing the military mission programs, they were doing other programs which could possibly allow them to nullify the space programs of the military, like Solar Warden.

    And these people, then, utilizing all the advances in space systems, military wise, developed the capability to move off the planet and mine materials on other planets in the solar system and/or continue on out into the galaxy through the 12 closest stars, Alpha Centauri being the first, and mining or extracting materials, or whatever, and making money.

    This same group of top corporate people of all these companies that are doing the jobs, that they are getting paid for, were paralleling the space missions for industrialization – making money... We've got corporate operations operating parallel to missions to solar system planets and other stars' planets, doing the same thing.

    Tompkins testimony here corroborates what Goode revealed in early 2015; that there is a corporate run space program he called the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate. Previously, in April 2014, Cramer claims he was assigned to a Mars military base from 1987 to 2004, to protect five corporate run colonies there he described as the Mars Colony Corporation. Similarly, Relfe says that during his time on Mars, from 1976 to 1996, he was part of a military operation to protect Mars colonies.

    Tour Flyer SSPsBill Tompkins' detailed knowledge of current operations of the Navy's secret space program, a corporate run program, and his willingness to now relate this information is a significant development for all who have been closely following his testimony. It is a major scoop for Cosmic Disclosure that Tompkins chose to reveal his knowledge there first, and it certainly helps substantiate the earlier testimony of Goode and others concerning Solar Warden and parallel secret space program operations.

    [Note: To watch William Tompkins on Cosmic Disclosure, click here. For transcript click here.]

    © Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice

    Announcement: Documents and whistleblowers revealing the creation of antigravity spacecraft belonging U.S. secret space programs, with special reference to the testimony of William Tompkins, will be presented in upcoming lectures and workshops in Los Angeles (Oct 8-9) and San Francisco (Oct 14 & 16) by best-selling Amazon.com author Dr Michael Salla. More info here.
    Further Reading

        Secret History of RAND Corporation in Reverse Engineering Antigravity UFOs
        RAND Corporation Part of Alien Proxy War Involving USAF & Navy Secret Space Programs
        Gene Roddenberry Based Star Trek on Secret US Navy Space Fleet
        Navy Admiral oversaw 29 Spies in Nazi Germany & started US Secret Space Program
        US Navy League Conducted Extraterrestrial Special Projects from 1985 to 1999
        US Navy Spies Learned of Nazi Alliance with Reptilian Extraterrestrials during WWII

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I posted this in this thread this am after your OP but somehow in wound up in the time glitch thread 

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