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How did Apollo deal with the Van Allen radiation belts ?

Started by A51Watcher, April 11, 2017, 09:42:57 PM

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Amaterasu

Gee it sounds so good...  Still does not explain why so much has come out about how "lethal" they are, nor all the fakery We can clearly see in the moon landing vids.  So...  Do We call this apologetics?  Or... 
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon


ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on April 11, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
NASA ENGINEER SAYS:
That the radiation can fry the electronics, but that was also said on the video in the opening post, no surprises there for anyone that knows a little about electronics.

Sgt.Rocknroll

#4
Lou Baldin told me yesterday, that Apollo DID go to the Moon and back.
With a little help from 'friends' to provide tan coverage...(SPF 50)... 8)

John T. Fountain Sr. So humans have been to the moon and back? Huh Lou? I noticed you didn't say Apollo in your statement but you posted an article about Apollo. So did Apollo actually send men to the moon and back? Or are you just playing with words? 😏
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Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin Apollo did go, John. Everything is possible with a little help from the little green men. Without ET humans would still be living in mud huts. Yeah, I know, billions of people still do.

John T. Fountain Sr. So the little 'Green Men', perferred the US over the Rooskies?...
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Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin ETs preferred the USA over all other countries not only the Rooskies. ;)

John T. Fountain Sr. So I take it 'they' used 'their' shielding to protect The Eagle from the Van Allen Belt radiation?...
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Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin The astronauts didn't come back with a tan.
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John T. Fountain Sr.
John T. Fountain Sr.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:26am
John T. Fountain Sr.
John T. Fountain Sr. Figured as much. SPF 50
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biggles

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 11, 2017, 11:10:30 PM
Lou Baldin told me yesterday, that Apollo DID go to the Moon and back.
With a little help from 'friends' to provide tan coverage...(SPF 50)... 8)

John T. Fountain Sr. So humans have been to the moon and back? Huh Lou? I noticed you didn't say Apollo in your statement but you posted an article about Apollo. So did Apollo actually send men to the moon and back? Or are you just playing with words? 😏
Like · Reply · 2 · Yesterday at 5:43am
Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin Apollo did go, John. Everything is possible with a little help from the little green men. Without ET humans would still be living in mud huts. Yeah, I know, billions of people still do.

John T. Fountain Sr. So the little 'Green Men', perferred the US over the Rooskies?...
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 7:39am
Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin ETs preferred the USA over all other countries not only the Rooskies. ;)

John T. Fountain Sr. So I take it 'they' used 'their' shielding to protect The Eagle from the Van Allen Belt radiation?...
Like · Reply · 2 · Yesterday at 8:19am
Lou Baldin
Lou Baldin The astronauts didn't come back with a tan.
Unlike · Reply · 4 · Yesterday at 9:52am
John T. Fountain Sr.
John T. Fountain Sr.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:26am
John T. Fountain Sr.
John T. Fountain Sr. Figured as much. SPF 50
Like · Reply · 1 · Yesterday at 10:26am


Back in 1969 when Buzz and the others went up in that rocket, I remember well, watched it on tv back then.

Cut to this century and I am told the van Allen belts would have stopped that rocket from getting through; But apparently they had a little help. ?
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

ArMaP

Quote from: biggles on April 12, 2017, 01:43:18 AM
Cut to this century and I am told the van Allen belts would have stopped that rocket from getting through; But apparently they had a little help. ?
How would have the van Allen belts stopped the rocket from getting through?

biggles

Quote from: ArMaP on April 12, 2017, 01:49:01 AM
How would have the van Allen belts stopped the rocket from getting through?

I'm not tech minded by far and away ArMap, but apparently it has to do with frying everything up.
I know that I know nothing - thanks Capricorn.

Eighthman

Your quote highlights the point about the US and aliens.  I can see that they would prefer the US as world leader, an internationalist nation.

I think that has ended. The US freely vandalizes the world in an utter scofflaw manner.  If I was ET, I'd look to a Russia/China alliance as the better choice to interface with.  They act like adults instead of toddlers throwing a tantrum.

A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on April 11, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
NASA ENGINEER SAYS:




This engineer didn't really address any specifics like the OP  video did, such as it's path through what part of the belt, and what kind of shielding they had, and what levels they expect...

The VA belt is not a 360 degree bubble, it has heavy parts and light parts, as seen in the diagram. No sense in going through the heavy parts if you don't have to.


Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: Eighthman on April 12, 2017, 03:16:19 AM
Your quote highlights the point about the US and aliens.  I can see that they would prefer the US as world leader, an internationalist nation.

I think that has ended. The US freely vandalizes the world in an utter scofflaw manner.  If I was ET, I'd look to a Russia/China alliance as the better choice to interface with.  They act like adults instead of toddlers throwing a tantrum.

If you think the Russians or Chinese act like adults or any differently than the US you are sadly mistaken. There's something else going on here and it doesn't have anything to do with the very temporary occupant of the White House.
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Eighthman

Feel free to elaborate on your speculations.  Russia and China aren't 'nice' but they do seem mature and more focused on long term constructive goals than the US - such as massive Arctic development and the "Silk Road" initiative. They also have a dogged determination to emphasize international laws.

Further example: the Chinese are greedy for resources and quietly racist. However, a group of African leaders praised their approach in that they get roads and rail lines from China and not a lecture on how to treat gays, like the US. The past leader of Singapore once fended off critics by asking, "how much human rights can you afford?"  Development comes first and social order gets added gradually.

I gotta get some time to read the "Hundred Year Marathon".  I'm told it's scary.

Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: Eighthman on April 12, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
Feel free to elaborate on your speculations.  Russia and China aren't 'nice' but they do seem mature and more focused on long term constructive goals than the US - such as massive Arctic development and the "Silk Road" initiative. They also have a dogged determination to emphasize international laws.

Further example: the Chinese are greedy for resources and quietly racist. However, a group of African leaders praised their approach in that they get roads and rail lines from China and not a lecture on how to treat gays, like the US. The past leader of Singapore once fended off critics by asking, "how much human rights can you afford?"  Development comes first and social order gets added gradually.

I gotta get some time to read the "Hundred Year Marathon".  I'm told it's scary.

Their dogged determination for international laws are only a smoke screen to pursue domination. Nothing more. They'll use whatever means necessary to achieve their goals. As do other countries.

So human rights take a back seat?  It's a slippery slope. Most of these smaller countries are run by strongmen who want to stay in power. They too will do what is necessary to achieve their goals.

And it's not speculation. It's the way of the world. Been happening for thousands of years.

Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

Sgt.Rocknroll

But this topic is not about country or flag.

Let's get back in topic please.  8)
Pm me for further discussion.
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ArMaP

Quote from: biggles on April 12, 2017, 01:50:42 AM
I'm not tech minded by far and away ArMap, but apparently it has to do with frying everything up.
It doesn't work that way, specially with old electronics, like they had during Apollo.

With today's electronics, with much smaller and sensitive components, things are harder in that way, that's why there are radiation-hardened electronic components.