This exactly what's wrong with this generation

[zorgon]

This exactly what's wrong with this generation

[biggles]

This exactly what's wrong with this generation

As parents with kids of this bracket or a bit older, we didn't really have the option of harsh discipline; one of my kids, the oldest one came back with "you can't do that to me, your not allowed, I'll tell someone".  Social workers would back this type of behaviour up.

[petrus4]

I was born in 1977.  Technically I'm at the tail end of X, but it disturbs me how Millennial I am psychologically, in a lot of ways.  I don't have a mobile phone, but I do have a lot of their problems.  At the risk of abdicating responsibility, though, I can explain the obsession with "making an impact."



That's what we've been brought up with.  It wasn't because of my parents specifically at all; but throughout my childhood, with the media I was exposed to, the proverbial superhero motif was constant; and I never opened a comic book before my eighteenth birthday, either.  Television and film were enough.

My mother had a book called 100 Great Lives, which was a very pure distillation of the proverbial Great Man Theory.  I had the idea very consistently reinforced, that a person was either Napoleon Bonaparte, or they were utterly disposable.  You are either a billionaire or an anonymous drop in the ocean.  You're either an alpha or nobody.  There is no middle ground.  I have responded to that by walking away from it and attempting to defy it as much as possible; but the psychological effect of it is with me on a literally second by second basis.

I know; many Millennials have gone through the "trophy for participation," thing, as well, which is the other extreme.  The problem is not with either of these polarised extremes, in exclusion.  The problem is that we have been exposed to both simultaneously.

This causes the development of an utterly unrealistic and distorted perception of the self.  On the one hand you're told that you're either Bill Gates or a worthless eater, yet on the other, you have it implied that you've managed to live up to the expectation of godhood even when you come last, via the "trophy for participation."

So we end up believing that we supposedly do have a literally supernatural level of ability, yet when we come up against anything which is, in reality, even marginally difficult, we fall apart.  We expect the entire universe to revolve around us; we expect everything to be completely effortless, while simultaneously being of eternal, universal significance.

At this point, I don't want another single fragging person to ever tell me how much potential I supposedly have again.  I am sick of the sense of obligation that that implies.  If I am a worthless eater because I barely have any money in the bank, then that's fine.  I'll take it.  The main reason why I had to leave Nimbin, in hindsight, is that there were times when I was just doing what I thought was completely ordinary, and then people would start gushing at me in response about how awesome I supposedly was.  I can't stand that.  I honestly prefer to be hated.  I want mediocrity now, and I don't want trophies for it.

Aside from that, though; political correctness, Marxism, and the obsession with minorities are the three reasons why I generally don't want anything to do with Millennials.  I'm especially tired of people viewing the expression of ideas which they disagree with, in the same way that they would view an act of physical violence.

I am not worried about the effect Millennials will have on society, however; because the only thing I want where mainstream society is concerned now, is to withdraw from it.  I don't want to become a complete recluse; I'm still here, and am planning to go back to Nimbin, when I can stand the idea of going back to that level of stress on an ongoing basis.

I haven't given up hope where the Millennials are concerned.  I've known a few of them who were genuinely decent kids, if a bit naive and overly addicted to their phones.  While I'm sure that natural selection will have a part to play, I have a feeling that those who survive will actually be one of the most worthwhile generations humanity has seen for a while.  The reason why is because that it's precisely because of the bad parenting they've had, that Millennials are having to completely re-invent the wheel, and totally learn everything from scratch.

Some of them will commit suicide.  Some of them, however, will figure it out.

[petrus4]

the oldest one came back with "you can't do that to me, your not allowed, I'll tell someone".

"That won't be necessary.  I will call an ambulance for you afterwards."

[The Seeker]

"That won't be necessary.  I will call an ambulance for you afterwards."

Ah, Petra's, you know me well 

[robomont]

question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?

[zorgon]

question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?

Lab creation

[petrus4]

question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?

I've been reading about psychology, parapsychology, and both military and political philosophy for most of my life.  My two main areas of interest psychologically have been multiple personality disorder and mind control.  I used to think those two areas were entirely unrelated; but then I found out about Monarch.  Small world.  I also learned rhetoric from debating a Lutheran woman on IRC during the 90s.  I miss her, and I don't think she knew how much she helped me.  I've known a lot of Christians who were genuine idiots, which makes it all the more enjoyable when I encounter one of them who is intelligent.

I found out that if you learn tactical theory well enough, you can use that as an analogy to understand literally anything else.  Kali has taught me a lot as well, if I am honest; but I am not really supposed to talk about that.

[petrus4]

Lab creation

Almost.  I've had the LSD, at this point.

[AliensShrinkedMyPony]

Almost.  I've had the LSD, at this point.

Ufology and lsd are the perfect recipe for living in horror and fear.

[Eighthman]

It's too easy to say,  "kids these days", if you're old. I try to be mindful of that tendency.

I can't completely blame millennials. I work with some and they are truly f**ked. Student loans, crap jobs, and the US shifting into 3rd world status.  It takes will power to stop smoking weed and get out of mom's basement...... and for what, exactly?  Young men end up viewed as sperm donors with a checkbook or drones.  Young women have been raised to be princesses.  Good luck with that.

There's a few positives on the horizon:  the population explosion is done, over in most of the world.  AI is here and REALLY incredible on your Smartphone (directions by voice).  Blockchain is ready to explode and create a revolution and even the banks are behind it.  Marijuana legalization is going to help huge numbers of people with chronic pain instead of depending on Big Pharma for opioids. 

[Shasta56]

Big Pharma would prefer to maintain opioid dependence.  It's a cash cow.
Petrus, there are places where you can talk about Kali.

Shasta

[Somamech]

I actually find No Difference at all between age groups

I've worked with young Kid's and they rock and have a good work ethic, and I've worked with other's who you want to straighten out.  I've worked with just as many people my age that I feel the same about, and just as many older than me that I feel the same about.

I will say one thing though... These day's anyone who has the ability to connect to the rest the world through the internet has, in fact, changed the world, but at the end of the day, the same BS occur's now as what occurred prior to the internet.  Humans are Humans, just roll with it and make the most of it!

[petrus4]

Ufology and lsd are the perfect recipe for living in horror and fear.

Actually, for true weeping, gibbering, foetal position on the floor states, artificial intelligence and transhumanism are my poisons of choice.

Yet it's funny.  I am starting to find that it is in precisely those situations where peace should be hardest to find, where it is most easily available.

[The Seeker]

Actually, for true weeping, gibbering, foetal position on the floor states, artificial intelligence and transhumanism are my poisons of choice.

Yet it's funny.  I am starting to find that it is in precisely those situations where peace should be hardest to find, where it is most easily available.

you need to go back out to the woods