Alien Abduction Motivations

[Eighthman]

from r/AlienAbduction

Here we have a long thread about why aliens abduct humans.  I think the final opinion makes the most sense. Why?

First, the biggest mystery to me is what we have that aliens NEED - that they can't create otherwise.  We're talking about godlike beings and what the heck do they need us for?

Second, saying that they want to create a hybrid race and take over the planet makes no sense at all !  They have all sorts of ways to get rid of us easily (like disease).  They wouldn't need to do abductions again and again and again. They would just nab some human DNA (once) and grow however many they want.

The only conclusion that makes sense is that this involves time travel - because that explains Why They Need Us Specifically - as individuals in a timeline.  It fits the odd "real but not exactly real" nature of these experiences because the universe must "allow" these timeline intrusions very narrowly (otherwise our world would be crazy incoherent).

Further, these abductions may involve family lines - or intergenerational - even showing ancestors of the abductees!  This, by itself, looks like helping a Lineage Along thru time..........   

[ArMaP]

The only conclusion that makes sense is that this involves time travel - because that explains Why They Need Us Specifically - as individuals in a timeline.

Sorry, I still don't understand the "why", could you explain it?

Thanks in advance.

[astr0144]

No doubt there are several theories about Alien Abduction.

One being that the Greys are Time travelers from the future...and that is how our future generations will become..

BUT if so ...why do they need to come back in time to abduct us ?



Another Ancient Aliens episode  that only may  discuss certain cases

Ancient Aliens: Strange Abductions




There have been a few UFO series that I have seen that refer to AA. that offered some good suggestions also .but its trying to remember which ones...I seem to recall one being better than the others..

I found this one so far..but I have not re watched it to recheck what it describes...

Unsealed: Alien Files
Season 4
Episode 12: Alien Abduction

Other possible series that discuss it were possibly

Hanger 1,  ...  The  UFO Files ... The Conspiracy Files


Quote Eighthman

The only conclusion that makes sense is that this involves time travel - because that explains Why They Need Us Specifically - as individuals in a timeline.  It fits the odd "real but not exactly real" nature of these experiences because the universe must "allow" these timeline intrusions very narrowly (otherwise our world would be crazy incoherent).

Further, these abductions may involve family lines - or intergenerational - even showing ancestors of the abductees!  This, by itself, looks like helping a Lineage Along thru time..........   

[ArMaP]

Was that an answer to my question?

If it was, I don't understand it, if it wasn't, could you answer me?
(if you know the answer, obviously) 

[astr0144]

Are you asking me ArMaP ?   

I made a ref to part of Eightmans post...

Are you asking me to try to answer your question ?

I am no expert... and cannot always recall what I may have seen at some time straight away... sometimes things come back to me....and I may offer some suggestons..if my mind gets in the correct gear !

If you were able to watch some of the videos they may answer your questions ...if my attempts or suggestions may not do so.. 

Quote from: Eighthman on September 02, 2017, 05:56:40 PM

    The only conclusion that makes sense is that this involves time travel - because that explains Why They Need Us Specifically - as individuals in a timeline.

ArMaP
Sorry, I still don't understand the "why", could you explain it?

Was that an answer to my question?

If it was, I don't understand it, if it wasn't, could you answer me?
(if you know the answer, obviously) 

[Eighthman]

I don't understand your 'why".

If Alien Abductions are real (I think they are, within a broader context of 'real), then we need to think about their reasons for doing this.  And only one conclusion - of those imagined - makes sense.

I would add the fact that such aliens reportedly refer to humans as "containers" (of souls, apparently) - and also investigator Linda Howe was told that these events have to do with an afterlife. In addition, there are accounts such as by Whitney Scheiber about encounters with dead relatives and experiences similar to NDE's, including aliens. 

The particular point I keep coming back to - is why do they care about us?  How can we backward, feeble creatures have anything to offer them?  What about us is vital?   I think this timeline idea also comports well with the stuff Zorgon and Seeker discuss in regard to shifted events in their experiences.

[ArMaP]

Are you asking me ArMaP ?   

I made a ref to part of Eightmans post...

Are you asking me to try to answer your question ?

Yes, as I didn't understand if you were talking about the "why" or not.

If you were able to watch some of the videos they may answer your questions ...if my attempts or suggestions may not do so.. 

No, I didn't watch the videos, I'm not wasting 88 minutes of my time just to see if they give me an answer or not, I'm not that interested in this for that.

[ArMaP]

I don't understand your 'why".

Why do they abduct people? I don't understand how them being from the future explains why they do it.

What about us is vital?

Well, what is it, then? If we don't know then that's still not a better or worse explanation.

[astr0144]

From what I recall... the ref to the Alien Files : The Greys video refers to them being possibly future humans coming back in time to abduct us is near the end of that video..maybe last 5 mins... At the moment for some reason I am unable to watch the video to confirm... (I sometimes have a problem on my computter playing them..on and off)

Initially when I did see it, I probably asked the same question.. and its a question that /  is,  Would you consider it a possibility ?... and I dont really think at that time that I thought that it would be likely...

But if I recall one possibility may had been because something went wrong in the future... (Which no doubt is likely) and they needed to come back to obtain Human DNA from the past...

Along the way you would think that they collected Human DNA as we evolved.. but say there had been a Nuclear war... maybe their samples got destroyed may be one suggestion or something along those lines..

but maybe they do come back to alter things in their present time with their species.

They may even come back to differing times..of past generations if they are able to Time travel !

Maybe that could make some sense !

If I recall other things I will try to post them...

Yes, as I didn't understand if you were talking about the "why" or not.
No, I didn't watch the videos, I'm not wasting 88 minutes of my time just to see if they give me an answer or not, I'm not that interested in this for that.

[ArMaP]

But if I recall one possibility may had been because something went wrong in the future... (Which no doubt is likely) and they needed to come back to obtain Human DNA from the past...

If they can go back in time and interfere with today's humans why can't they go back in time and stop whatever problem they had from happening?

[astr0144]

That may be a question that no one can answer ! and the Ultimate suggestion to doubt the possibilty behind it.

Other than trying to suggest something like , maybe somethings occur and are either too large an event to prevent or change... or that there could have been too many factors that led to it that to change them all would seem either to complex or even maybe impossible..

Such as even the eg of all the atoms (or actions  ..Human,  environment or other factors ..)that took place over a period of time as say the leading up to the development of a Nuclear war as an eg... is maybe likely impossible to correct..due to just far too many factors.

cause and effect... Human thoughts and actions... all far too much to consider maybe as a suggestion !

and that may even be considered changing everything since the beginning of time that led up to events...

ie its just far too complex..

and no doubt maybe thats why we cannot comprehend time travel being possible.

OR MAYBE... yes they could possibly stop one specific important  vital event that would have prevented something occuring !...

or if say several Nukes were going to be set of from various Countries within a short time frame... Could they stop them all or in the right order to stop the related actions from cause and effect..

At the moment I cannot really offer any valid answer !

and I dont say that I believe it... its just a theory suggested by some of the so called experts !

The thing with the Video and suggested Experts who make comments about it... they do make suggestions that otherwise the viewer may not easily think to consider..

but I dont think any of us has the good enough answers or suggestions..


Based on some of those thoughts.. that seem almost impossible to comprehend...(At least for me ! )

IF A.As are for real.. then maybe it being from ETs is more likley behind it.

Just like if we were able to land on another Planet that contained life and were able to be like Star Trek and be able to be undetected..(If there were potential threats from Intellegent species ).if we had a Space ship orbiting the planet... chances are we would obtain various species to analyse them in a similar way that we believe ETs may do to us in a A.A..

just like we have done with most of the species..animal or plant/ vegitation,  we have found just on our planet alone over our evolvement..

Another possibility with greys is that they maybe a type of Created "Programmable Generated life form" that works for what ever other E.T species

Ie they maybe like created type Robots / Clones and may not really be real life forms..

they may do the work on behalf of other ETs species to do the Aductions..

If they can go back in time and interfere with today's humans why can't they go back in time and stop whatever problem they had from happening?

[petrus4]

a}  The Greys in particular can't ingest food orally the way we do.  The mouth is too small, and I don't know whether or not they still have digestive organs now, if they ever did.  They blend meat from mutilated cattle, and presumably sometimes humans, up into a paste combined with digestive enzymes, which they then spread on their arms, where the meat is digested and absorbed directly through the skin.  The one thing I never forgot about them taking me was the smell.  It's like rubber mixed with rotting flesh.  It was strong enough to create a burning sensation in my sinuses at times.

b}  They are in a state of severe genetic degradation.  They take human genetic material which they combine with their own DNA, and use that to form human/alien hybrid foetuses, which they then implant back into the wombs of human women, who then bring them to term.  The plan is to replace pure Greys with Grey/human hybrids, which they have to do, because they have no genetic future.  They are clones, and they have cloned themselves so many times that their DNA is now badly damaged and riddled with errors.  They can't reproduce on their own any more.

The hybrids are extremely psychologically unstable because the Greys do not have emotions at all, but the hybrids do, which they get from the human DNA.  The Greys also have no clue how to raise hybrid children, which is another reason why they abduct humans; to use them as surrogate parents and supervisors.

c}  The Greys who took me were also negatively polarised terrorists.  I was intercepted, initially when I was five, because my original purpose was to assist in the beneficial subversion and replacement of mainstream society.  They wanted to scare me sufficiently that I would be discouraged from doing that.  I am no longer following that purpose, and I'm fairly sure they think they've successfully psychologically neutralised me at this point.  To a certain extent they're right, although the real reason why I gave up was because of the Millennials, and not really because of anything the Greys did.  I also have protection now as well, however, which means that it's a lot harder for them to interfere with me now than it used to be.

[astr0144]

Hi Petrus 4...

Appologies if  I have not come across your story before, but I was not aware of your claim to be abducted..

Have you posted a ref  or past detailed thread to it that we could read ?

I need to take some time to try to absorb your coments I think...

You maybe the person to answer the questions !

On a quick initial read of your comments... you seem to have some valid suggestions that may answer the threads main questions so far..

I have come across quite a few theories behind the Grey or Alien/ ET / Human Hybred suggestions.. that I have found very interesting to consider at the time..

Including some places that have been suggested that create them in underground bases in the U.K as well as the USA..

No doubt they could be all over the planet if they really do exist.

a}  The Greys in particular can't ingest food orally the way we do.  The mouth is too small, and I don't know whether or not they still have digestive organs now, if they ever did.  They blend meat from mutilated cattle, and presumably sometimes humans, up into a paste combined with digestive enzymes, which they then spread on their arms, where the meat is digested and absorbed directly through the skin.  The one thing I never forgot about them taking me was the smell.  It's like rubber mixed with rotting flesh.  It was strong enough to create a burning sensation in my sinuses at times.

[space otter]

pets r us

I also have protection now as well, however, which means that it's a lot harder for them to interfere with me now than it used to be.

glad to hear it..i was very worried about you and the 'magic' investigations you were involving yourself with before

and big hugs..your maturity is showing 

[ArMaP]

Thanks for your answer, astr0144.