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Old corroded metal plate on Mars!

Started by zorgon, March 11, 2018, 08:50:28 AM

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zorgon

Pablo Tisch
March 9 · 2018


Old corroded metal plate on Mars!
Lots of stuff laying around as CURIOSITY tantalizes your curiosity!







http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/153866

zorgon

#1
Sol 601 Curiosity was taking pictures of salt crusts



Sol 603 Salt crusts Tire for scale This image was taken by Navcam: Left B (NAV_LEFT_B) onboard NASA's Mars rover Curiosity on Sol 603 (2014-04-17 17:28:39 UTC).


petrus4

This looks like molten slag to me.

This indicates that some of the rust on Mars was exposed to heat high enough to melt it at some point.  I didn't know this previously, but according to Ask an Atheist, Mars apparently does have the largest volcanoes in the solar system.

I thought the Cydonian Face was interesting; but I think the only way this supports the idea of ancient Martians, is by implying that if they did exist, some of them might have been blacksmiths. ;)
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on March 11, 2018, 08:58:21 AM
Sol 601 Curiosity was taking pictures of salt crusts
They look almost exactly like the sand plates I used to do on the beach when I was a kid. :)

I would make a flat spot on the sand, spread a little of water over it and waited until it dried. Then I would pick up those thing plates very carefully, trying not to break them.

Kids spend time doing strange things. :)

zorgon

Hnnn okay  so those do look like salt slabs :P

But THIS ONE doesn't

COSMIC SECRETS
The Enigmas on Mars 83
A Piece of Tangled Sheet metal Debris Found on Mars?
Odd Anomaly on Mars
PIA 20333 Curiosity Mast Cam  SOL 1284



CLIP - Mars: How about a piece of sheet metal debris from an explosion laying on the surface?
Certainly a funny looking rock...  ~ Pablo Tisch

PIA20333: Northern Portion of Gale Crater Rim
Viewed from 'Naukluft Plateau'




Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) Curiosity Mastcam 
 PProduced By:     Malin Space Science Systems 
 Full-Res TIFF: PIA20333.tif (29.32 MB) ~ Full-Res JPEG: PIA20333.jpg (1.072 MB)  

This early-morning view from the Mast Camera (Mastcam) on NASA's Curiosity Mars rover covers a field of view of about 130 degrees of the inner wall of Gale Crater. It was acquired during a period when there was very little dust or haze in the atmosphere, so conditions were optimal for long-distance imaging. The right side of the image fades into the glare of the rising sun.

Mastcam's right-eye camera, which has a telephoto lens, took the component images on March 16, 2016, during the 1,284th sol, or Martian day, of Curiosity's work on Mars. The rover's location was on the "Naukluft Plateau" of lower Mount Sharp, inside Gale Crater. The view spans from west-northwest on the left to northeast on the right. Details of the morphology (shape and pattern of features) on the wall, which include gullies, channels and debris fans help geologists understand the processes that have shaped the crater and transported sediments -- sand, pebbles and larger rocks -- down to the floor of the crater. Some of the foothills show layers morphologically not unlike the layers Curiosity is exploring near the base of Mount Sharp, suggesting that the crater was filled along the north wall with sediments that have in large part now been eroded away, much as happened closer to Mount Sharp.



The scene is presented with a color adjustment that approximates white balancing, to resemble how the terrain would appear under daytime lighting conditions on Earth.

Figure 1 includes labels on three peaks of the crater wall, for scale and position reference. The peak labeled "A," near the left end of the panorama, is at azimuth 291.8 degrees east of north and 18.1 miles (29.1 kilometers) away from the rover's position. It rises about 6,200 feet (1,900 meters) above the closest point on the floor of the crater. Peak "B," at azimuth 357.2 degrees east of north (or 2.8 degrees from north), is about 17.6 miles (28.4 kilometers) away and rises about 3,900 feet (1,200 meters) above the base of its foothills. Peak "C," at azimuth 33.6 degrees east of north, is about 27.3 miles (45.5 kilometers) distant and rises about 6,200 feet (1,900 meters) above the base of its foothills.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Science Laboratory Project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. JPL designed and built the project's Curiosity rover and its Navcam. For more information about Curiosity, visit http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl.

Photojournal Note: The main image is also available in full resolution TIFF file PIA20333_full.tif. This file may be too large to view from a browser; it can be downloaded onto your desktop by right-clicking on the previous link and viewed with image viewing software.

Image Credit:
NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

Image Addition Date:
2016-04-27
SOURCE: NASA

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Images_83_Sheet_Metal.html

ArMaP

Looks slightly less like a sheet in the original photo.

(colours "stretched")


Sgt.Rocknroll

As I've been told many, many times...'It's just a rock'.... ::) ;D
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

ArMaP

In this case I think it's two rocks.

zorgon

#8
Quote from: ArMaP on April 06, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
In this case I think it's two rocks.

How does even remotely look like a rock :P

The next person that says "It's a rock"  will be required to provide documentation proving they are an expert on identifying rocks :P

Sgt.Rocknroll

Well you're the rock hound, what kind of rock is it? Bwbwbabahahahah  8)
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on April 07, 2018, 02:38:07 AM
How does even remotely look like a rock :P
I said two rocks. In fact, two rocks and a background rock.



QuoteThe next person that says "It's a rock"  will be required to provide documentation proving they are an expert on identifying rocks :P
I hope you apply that to every topic on the forum, so people talking about timeline shifts will be required to provide documentation proving they are experts in that field.  :P

zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 07, 2018, 03:00:30 AM
Well you're the rock hound, what kind of rock is it? Bwbwbabahahahah  8)

The rock in that region is sedimentary rock, similar to the red sandstones out here in the Nevada Desert.  In fact it is so similar that it could have been taken out here  :P

:o

The object in question is TOO SMOOTH to be sandstone and too bright. It is at least an OOART :P

The Martian "Blue Berries" are Hematite Concretions almost exactly like the Moqui Marbles found in Utah by the thousands same as the Blue berries.  Hematite is a bluish/shiny black iron mineral that forms spheres. However the marble concretions are a mix of iron and sand stone. They are larger on earth because we have more water... but they are (were) formed by water

The earlier picture I posted are salt crusts  I have similar ones in my collection.  You should chech livingmoon pages for "Rock Hunting with Spirit and opportunity Rover"

Here are the Moqui marbles in Utah  They are more brown because Utah still gets rain..



Here is one of the Blue berries... Same exact sandstone terrain  same hematite concretions only these are more blue because there is little to no water on Mars now



Here is another one onEasrth... they are more blueish as they were not exposed to weather



The reason NASA calls them Blue Berries is because some stupid scientist was eating a Blue Berry muffin at the time they first saw the images and he said it looked similar  :P

As for pieces of metal and other debris on Mars, NASA has literred it and the moon with so much debris, why is it so hard to believe we might actually see some of it in photos near where the spacecraft landed?

:P

::)

zorgon

#12
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 07, 2018, 03:00:30 AM
Bwbwbabahahahah  8)

Ah I see  using TROLL tactics now eh?  Who are you and what have you done with the REAL Sgt? :P

I have MANY photos of the SALT BEDS on mars dug up by the rovers. There is literally tons of salt which means at one time there was a lot of water up there

All the dry lake beds out here are mostly salt flats... here is one image that has some water left but you can see the salts concentrating as it drys up



This is actually a PERFECT picture to show how those thin salt crusts form. Just add a littlre NASA RED TINT and Voila... you have mars :P  (actually this image is too blue anyway, it doesn't look that blue out here :P

This is a little closer  Looks a lot more Mard Like :P  That is all salt in the foreground...  I DO notice though that NASA has given up over tinting their photos with that red dye :P and the sky is more blue/grey now as it should be





zorgon

Closer images of the sandstone layers on Mars



Same sandstone layers on Earth  Vermillion Cliff Arizona.



had to use this one with the logo as most photographers only catch the pretty stuff, but this one matched the terrain better.

But out here the sandstone really IS red  LOL  That is why names like vermillion Cliffs and Red Rock Canyon

basically the red is RUST  iron oxide

hematite is Blue/Black in formation, but if you cut it on a saw it 'bleeds' bright red

Also it is amazing what WIND can do to sand stone


ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on April 07, 2018, 09:31:52 PM
I DO notice though that NASA has given up over tinting their photos with that red dye :P and the sky is more blue/grey now as it should be
Not really, this is the original photo.