Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP-Discussion thread

[ArMaP]

Too much Russian influence on the site.

Which one? 

[Pimander]

Which one? 

ATS (mainly) 

[Pimander]

I guess I should come clean just so I can't be accused of not being straight with you all....

I have promised not to disclose something about a topic related to one of the projects discussed in this thread.  Don't worry, I won't mislead anyone with my posts.  I simply will not disclose the said information.  It is information regarding some ongoing research that is not public yet.

I can still join in with the discussion providing Zorgon and the other admins are cool with that.

And stop calling it Spooksville!  You're making me paranoid. 

[The Seeker]

I guess I should come clean just so I can't be accused of not being straight with you all....

I have promised not to disclose something about a topic related to one of the projects discussed in this thread.  Don't worry, I won't mislead anyone with my posts.  I simply will not disclose the said information.  It is information regarding some ongoing research that is not public yet.

I can still join in with the discussion providing Zorgon and the other admins are cool with that.

And stop calling it Spooksville!  You're making me paranoid. 

I personally have no issues with it,as long as you don't deliberately mislead or mis-direct the topic,and I am sure that you won't, Pi; if you do we'll just have to tar and feather you 

As for calling it spooksville, it is Alpha Tango Spookz in my book 

Bob Powell referred to it as Alien Titty Suckers 

Remain Calm and carry concealed...

[Pimander]

I have promised not to disclose something about a topic related to one of the projects discussed in this thread.

Actually, strictly speaking, the information I can't disclose is linked to topics/people discussed in the library thread not this discussion thread.

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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP

[Pimander]

if you do we'll just have to tar and feather you 

[space otter]

I have promised not to disclose something about a topic related to one of the projects discussed in this thread.  Don't worry, I won't mislead anyone with my posts.  I simply will not disclose the said information.  It is information regarding some ongoing research that is not public yet.

Pimander.. is it the same  info you can't disclose on dna?
and if not that's fine but can you give us a date to look forward to on either topic or both..
thanks much..

but you better not disappear after that kinda bait..

[zorgon]

My visit to The Skinwalker Ranch, 2018

by Springer from ATS
Post is here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10865.msg142814#msg142814

Reminds me of one of those Bilderberg meetings

[Irene]

I'm actually kind of embarrassed for him. He's like a puppy on the heels.

[zorgon]

And stop calling it Spooksville!  You're making me paranoid. 

uh huh... well um...  NO because ATS is literally Spook Central, "spook" meaning agent not ghostly things. If you still hang out there you SHOULD be paranoid, because they are watching you 

Here re a few examples...

BAD SPOOK...  Cool Hand was one  that I tricked into revealing himself and got many alert ATSers to give me a thumbs up for the public outing   After that he stopped pestering

GOOD SPOOK... mf_luder... He is Army Cointel Pro... says so openly... I asked him jokingly for ID  Said he isn't allowed to post his ID card but will this do?  Yup that will do   He later vetted a couple of documents for me at work that I had acquired that didn't have the secrcey tags stamped declassified so I had him check if it was okay...



GOOD SPOOK...  NJ Mooch..  On ATS he had posted in his bio "If people on ATS knew what I did for a living they would freak"  and had a picture of a DIA patch as avatar...  welll yup he was DIA  I saw the parking stickers on his yellow SUV window when he cane to visit John and myself for three days.  When he left, my internet access 'changed'  Let's leave it at that

skeetontheconspiracy   NSA Kentucky   

Tom Bedlam... he was told he isn't allowed to come talk to us

There was one fellow... was AF Security from Kwajalien... forget his name but I will try to find it as it was posts regarding SiPRNET  etc and he was triggered when I mentioned "The Global"  which I had gotten from someone else

Another chap was US NAVY  he let slip the real name of a NAVY spaceplane project because he was drinking a tad... it was corrected quickly but I was lucky enough to catch it

There were many others  I have to look up the names again. bear in mind these are the good ones that took time to talk with me (except cool hand)  There are probably a LOT more I never spotted

Then there are the real insiders like Intelgurl that works at Tonopah with her hubby Bios...

IgnoreTheFacts... uber skeptic and hounded John for years... turns out he works on non existing space planes   The last note I got form him was "Zorgon... you are 95% right on your secret space program stuff... I was going to post something but if I do they would know who I was"  Last I heard of him

So sorry

SPOOKSVILLE it remains

[zorgon]

I'm actually kind of embarrassed for him. He's like a puppy on the heels.

I always liked Springer...  He did fight to keep us around but that Overlord    can't beat that

But you spend 6 years providing top content and research then suddenly get the boot  and never even a hat or a t-shirt as thank you... Though he did spring for those John Lear Tin Foil hats at the time

[zorgon]

This part:

Anyone who has been around ATS long enough knows I am an eternally open minded skeptic; if I don't see it with my own eyes, if I can replicate the results, or find more than one (reputable and credible) person who saw it then well, I'm not impressed, to put it politely. - Springer

I think that is the biggest reason that ATS is not doing so well   Everyone running the place is a skeptic...

Makes it harder to take things seriously

But one of my big beefs is that even when I took the time to post 6 Pegasus FOIA ducuments with the OFFICISL source and link to the paper... these stuck those posts into their Skunk Works section, effectively burying them...

Now normally Skunkworks (ie Lockheed martin) would be for top secret stuff... but at ATS Skunk Works is lower than Mulder's basement office and stuff there is very quickly forgotten. I posted those 6 pages at the same time that Clifford Stone was their 'poster boy' with FOIA documents... It was so bad that if you put FOIA in your post  it triggered the bots to put a post from Clifford below yours

I still don't know what happened to Clifford... why he was banned... I keep forgetting to ask him on Facebook  dang it

Those six documents are on Jack's section on the website.

Being a skeptic is all well and good... but it does tend to make you look at things with a preconceived bias 

[Pimander]

Pimander.. is it the same  info you can't disclose on dna?
and if not that's fine but can you give us a date to look forward to on either topic or both..
thanks much..

I can't elaborate really.  It isn't my decision when to be honest.

but you better not disappear after that kinda bait..

I thought it was the most honest I could be to admit I know something that you guys don't and I can't share it.  (And no, I don't have proof the greys are physical beings and zoom about in nuts and bolts UFOs just to stick probes up our anuses (is it ani?)....)

When I disappear it is when I am very busy or very bored.  It isn't as busy as it used to be here and it is so irritatingly boring and stifling on ATS that I just don't have the motivation to make the time...  I love what Zorgon and the rest of us have tried to achieve here but I am not retired and have a business to run.

ETA:  I'll check what old Springer is up to later and follow up on your new tid-bits Z.  Gotta go and make a lady happy then possibly work Sunday night.  I should have stuck to my easy job LOL.

[zorgon]

I know something that you guys don't and I can't share it.  (And no, I don't have proof....)

This is actually funny in a way...

All throughout UFOlogy and other conspiracies people say "The Government is covering up Aliens!"  or "The Government is suppressing Free Energy!" (what ever that is )

Then they make statements like "Need to wake up, Sheeple" and usually the wake up messages is total BS

Then come the researches and the whistle blowers

Take Brian Forester for example  basic story... "We have DNA proof that the elongated skulls are not from Earth"

Okay GREAT  lets see those results and get an independent lab to check it..

"We can't release this paper just yet!"

Oh REALLY? Hmmm why not?

"Well turns out this DBA appears to come from a certain region on earth!"


I find that whistle blowers and UFOlogists are harder to get any info out of than the Government   Its always

"I know something YOU don't know!"  But I can't tell you!"

Well while I DO undersatnd those that are working on current jobs that require NDA's and Oaths... the rest of them saying this is worse than the government

I EXPECT the government to cover it up and keep secrets... but when [people claiming to be seeking the TRUTH do the exact same cover up it is worse... why? because THEIR motive is usually to keep the story going for their spot in the hall of UFOlogy fame that is the show circuit...

In the end  we end up like this fellow

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

This is actually funny in a way...

All throughout UFOlogy and other conspiracies people say "The Government is covering up Aliens!"  or "The Government is suppressing Free Energy!" (what ever that is )

Then they make statements like "Need to wake up, Sheeple" and usually the wake up messages is total BS

Then come the researches and the whistle blowers

Take Brian Forester for example  basic story... "We have DNA proof that the elongated skulls are not from Earth"

Okay GREAT  lets see those results and get an independent lab to check it..

"We can't release this paper just yet!"

Oh REALLY? Hmmm why not?

"Well turns out this DBA appears to come from a certain region on earth!"


I find that whistle blowers and UFOlogists are harder to get any info out of than the Government   Its always

"I know something YOU don't know!"  But I can't tell you!"

Well while I DO undersatnd those that are working on current jobs that require NDA's and Oaths... the rest of them saying this is worse than the government

I EXPECT the government to cover it up and keep secrets... but when [people claiming to be seeking the TRUTH do the exact same cover up it is worse... why? because THEIR motive is usually to keep the story going for their spot in the hall of UFOlogy fame that is the show circuit...

In the end  we end up like this fellow

It's mostly about the MONEY!....basic stuff....