Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP-Discussion thread

[The Seeker]

Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP

I am posting this here in John Lear's Area.

For some time I have been posting about Bigelow and the UFO connection with the involvement of George Knapp, Harry Reid, Jeremy Corbell and Tom DeLonge.  There have been rumors floating around about Bigelow funding MUFON and others and his interest in acquiring Saucer Parts to study and build his own UFO

The following was linked to me from ATS so it is NOT my work, to be clear. I do NOT know at this time who Mirageman is but his posting style is familiar.

Perhaps ArMap you can help me out on this. I would like to contact him for more details if possible (PM me please)

Since these posts are from ATS there has never been an issue sharing them here so long as we include credits and links.

However this is news we need to be on top of.

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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and 'DeLonge' Road to AATIP

[Irene]

Supposedly an exercise in studies of human consciousness and how we can communicate with a 'higher intelligences'. But it also seems to lead down a path of mental illness and psychosis for many on the receiving end. To dabble is to gamble with sanity.

I can't emphasize enough the truth of this statement.

Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.

Longfellow was spot on.

I think the military reached this milestone decades ago. It explains the modus operandi of proclaiming witnesses to be mentally ill in some way.

[zorgon]

This thread at ATS is currently 103 pages long.  All I have transferred so far are the original posts and the last post by Mark Allin (SPRINGER) stating that he was at Skin Walker Ranch with Knapp and Corbell.

As is the case with most such long threads 90% (or higher ) of the posts are usually bullshit comments by village idiots, attempted debunkers, and assorted troll and empty platitudes like " Great info... I will have to read all this later! (they never do )

What I need is someone to skim through those pages and find any useful updates and extra information that is pertinent to add to the library thread.

Also need to keep an eye on that thread for Springer's coming 'revelation'

Personally i think this is all about MONEY and we will not learn anything real but just in case I am wrong we need to watch this unfold.

In effect, this is the culmination of all the years since Roswell  and all the same names are still involved (Seem Hal Puthoff is immortal )

The interesting thing is I was just in the process of collecting all this material myself... Mirageman has done all the work for me, though no one had the Zeta Reticuli 2 papers other than John, who sent them to me to release

[Smilingtree]

I do not "Do" ATS or other chat boards but can watch out on FB. I know...I know 🙄, but I get tons of info from there as I am interested in all sorts of things. Medicine, technology, science, old friends, my town happenings, etc. and I know how to vet the things that interest me so I can weed out the fake. With that being said, is Springer on FB?

[zorgon]

With that being said, is Springer on FB?

Not that I know of.  He is busy runninng ATS but I am sure ATS has Twitter and FB accounts. I never looked

He used to be a nice guy... still not really sure why he turned on us back then

Springer on the right, John Lear, Dave Rabbit (RIP) and Johnny Anonymous (he had that name LONG before the grroup used it) I was taking the photo



Johnny Anonymous, my daughter and myself did a trip up to the Lick Observatory   That was interesting , especially the Ravens

[Smilingtree]

ATS is not on FB nor did I find a Mark Allin.

Good picture!

[ArMaP]

With that being said, is Springer on FB?

Search for Springer Abovetopsecret.

[ArMaP]

Springer on the right, John Lear, Dave Rabbit (RIP) and Johnny Anonymous (he had that name LONG before the grroup used it) I was taking the photo

On the right from their point of view, seeing that he is the one to the left for us looking at the photo.

[ArMaP]

ATS is not on FB nor did I find a Mark Allin.

https://www.facebook.com/atsnews/

[zorgon]

https://www.facebook.com/atsnews/

Looks like a Tabloid   Seems most of the posts on there are political... and look the same as all the other facebook posts   Ah well...  back to hunting Dragons

Oh wait... who is THIS on FB? 



Armap Ats

https://www.facebook.com/armap.ats?ref=br_rs

So I scrolled looking for something worthwhile and found THIS

Mars rover discovered gravitational wave affecting Mars' clouds.

First of all just have a look at the replies to that post  It is unbelieve the level of stupid on FB now even on an ATS page.


I followed that link to ATS  comment there are just as bad...

And its GRAVITY WAVES, a weather phenomena not GRAVITATIONAL WAVES 

So great  nothing has changed  over there, not missing anything

[ArMaP]

So great  nothing has changed  over there, not missing anything

No, things changed, now it's hard to have a topic not influenced by politics. 

[Pimander]

WOAH!

I love coincidences.  See my last post -which I made before I read before I read this quote....  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10847.msg142660;topicseen#new

It seems one source of Robert Bigelow's claims in the quote above involve a French 'researcher' Antoine Gigal. Physicist Jack Sarfatti described her as "accompanied by a body guard carrying a mystery briefcase allegedly containing "some kind of 'psychotronic' weapon based on alien ET technology."

According to Sarfatti's account, Gigal claimed a gun battle took place at Skinwalker Ranch with paramilitary guards involved in a shootout against aliens emerging from a portal or wormhole type of phenomenon. He said he'd heard the rumour while visiting London in 2004, in the company of Nick Cook (a British Aerospace Journalist). Sarfatti said the woman claimed to be part of a semi-secret Paris UFO group, and the woman attributed the story to Jacques Vallee. Jack Sarfatti also stated:

"Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it -albeit without the details."

A few scientists have been open about the capabilities of controlling human consciousness and behavior with EM technology. One such researcher is Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher-Bise, who has worked at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Stanford
Research Institute, and as a research consultant to NASA and the U.S. Navy. In 2003, Rauscher-Bise told private investigative and independent journalist Joe Vialls (now deceased) that she had long ago identified the specific frequency effects needed to induce nausea, happiness, and many other behavioral states decades ago. "Give me the money and three months," she boasted to Vialls, "and I'll be able to affect the behavior of 80 percent of the people in this town without their knowing it. Make them happy—or at least they'll think they're happy. Or aggressive."

http://www.doctorsaputo.com/a/the-covert-use-of-energy-weapons-for-political-control


The tech has been around since the 60s

[zorgon]

No, things changed, now it's hard to have a topic not influenced by politics. 

Well if they would stop banning people that bring awesome and non political posts to ATS they wouldn't have that problem

[ArMaP]

Well if they would stop banning people that bring awesome and non political posts to ATS they wouldn't have that problem

Even people that brought awesome and non political posts before now act too political, and we can see it on this forum too.

[Pimander]

No, things changed, now it's hard to have a topic not influenced by politics. 

Too much Russian influence on the site.  I tried to say this some time ago but it was a waste of my time as what difference does knowing make?