Baalbek Lebanon: Megaliths Of The Gods

[A51Watcher]

[fansongecho]

I love that video, this and other megalith stories (peru etc) are fascinating 

[Littleenki]

The oft studied Baalbek, and oft theorized as well, most mainstream megalithic researchers resort to giving the Romans credit for building it, but the base and various elements of the whole reject that since the style of those earliest "Trilithon" stones dont show obvious Roman engineering features.

Once more Id surmise the Romans built upon a base they could not move...or destroy..nor would they have wanted to..., and from what Ive read the base is actually an excellent retaining structure built to likely create a suitable platform for some long gone monument or structure.

Aliens now?

Im no ancient alien theorist, but the possibility definitely exists that otherworldly technology may have played a part in their construction.

Seems to me, more logically, the worldwide pre Holocene seafaring society some call Atlantis, would be the perfect suspects for building such a massive complex in such exacting detail.

The main question should be....why do all these truly prehistoric megalithic sites have such massive stonework, and what were the builders trying to achieve?

To me it seems, either they were built specifically for a purpose such as defense, or protection from expected or actual celestial events, or perhaps because if they were built any smaller or lighter, there was some force or series of events in those times which would warrant such a stable structure that could not be moved unless a huge amount of force or effort was applied.

At any rate, the accuracy and perfection of these giant stone edifices tells us there were definitely some sort of advanced beings here which built them this way for a logical reason...human or not.

Weve gone here(megaliths etc etc) at PRC many many times, with other threads, but it seems what is popular in social media and politics has been the mainstay since a few years back on PRC...and I really do miss the actual discussions and research that was done by members on these amazing subjects.

Thanks for bringing it back up A51!

Cheers
Le

[space otter]

Aliens now?

Im no ancient alien theorist, but the possibility definitely exists that otherworldly technology may have played a part in their construction.

hi  LE

ok  back to my soap box on this ancient aliens stuff

why doesn't anyone (but me, it seems) figure that WE the original earth dwellers were smart enough  to build such things and also to leave the planet and that the succeeding generations have dumbed down to now?
interbreeding on our own not interference
we had knowledge  that is long lost and are so inferior thinking of ourselves we have to blame outsiders or some god theory

why can't the ufo's beings be the original US coming back to visit home?


ah heck i'm going out to the garden

[fansongecho]

I hear your frustration Space Otter - I hope the garden provided a source of distraction for you afterwards ? 

( @ Space O, Its raining in the UK at the moment so our roses will be loving it, remarkably for the UK we have had close to 5 weeks of pretty warm and sunny weather in the North of England, so this rain is quite welcome 


Anyhoo back over to the Megaliths at Baalbek, these, and the Peru buildings as detailed in the YT video below are amazing, and I am really drawn to the mystery of how, and who built them, I am totally ambivalent to the theories that attempt to identify the creators of these things, because I think that we may never find out -

Maybe the mainstream scientists do know? but are keeping the information hidden away somewhere, like, say, The Smithsonian ?? or the Vatican ?? in an attempt to suppress the truth from us minions, and keep feeding us the "white bread" of history as required by the elites - who are truly on a mission to dumb-down the whole of humanity - which I must say looking around at the Zombie Nation that is the UK they are well on the way to succeeding 

(I don't know about other countries but I guess everyone else is also Glued to their smartphones at ALL TIMES?? in your country??)


Some of the facts about the relative hardness of the stones in Peru, and the locals apparently during that era had basic copper tools, so could not have used their tools to shape the stones, that is one facet that I find amazing, that and the accuracy of the stone placement on each other and NO GAPS, not even a human hair can be inserted in between the stones..  as I understand it.


It is a super topic to investigate, and I do like to hear the theories about the construction of these Megaliths, but I don't have one that I can say I would follow.

Have any of you folks been to Peru or other ancient sites?

Cheers!

Fans'




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[A51Watcher]

Thanks for the interesting and well thought replies.

I find Megalithic construction fascinating, especially the fact that it occurs worldwide, and at approximately the same time.

The only caveat to that could be it was the same civilization moving from one continent to the next.

The stone technology displayed does look amazingly similar in some locations, yet distinctly different in other locations yet equally impressive.

And by the same time I mean pre- Great Flood, pre- 10,000 years ago.


There are 3 new things that I look for at megalithic sites.


- Cut marks












- Fantastic rubble near the site. By that I mean broken pieces of larger works laying strewn about the site at random.







http://gizapower.com/pma/index.htm


Often we are so amazed by the workmanship displayed, we are distracted from considering where these pieces come from, and how they got there.

Rounded Pink Granite was not used anywhere in the construction of the GP far as I know, so what is it doing lying around as rubble just outside it?

We see this type of thing at many megalithic sites worldwide.

In looking at the remains, the cataclysm that occurred had great force to break large blocks of granite and also to carry these pieces asunder.

Wind could certainly not account for this but immense flooding like a Tsunami could.

Evidence of a Great Flood long ago is common in many cultures around the world.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10703.msg140851#msg140851


New evidence and theories now have us considering a Shoemaker Levy 9 type event as the culprit.




So instead of a flood so big it was seen worldwide, we are looking at worldwide occurrences of local flooding.

That is, where segments hit that had water. In places like the deserts of Egypt where segments hit, we have thousands of shards of glass made from intense heat hitting the sands.


- Stone Facades


At 16:53 in the Op video here -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10861.msg142505#msg142505

we see evidence of a stone facade. 


So just how many MORE of these facades are to be discovered?? And where.

I have been reviewing 4K tourist films of these sites online for clues.

Found a few suspicious areas so far but nothing as obvious as the one above.

[Norval]

While I may not have an answer as to HOW these amazing stone works were made, I might have the answer as to WHY, and something of the WHO, that made them.

Just suppose that you are on a team of workers here on earth thousands of years ago preparing the planet for eventual habitation by a newly created sentient intelligent life called mankind.

To rapidly process the biosphere huge plant life and giant herbivores would be needed. You would also need a VERY strong and durable structure to protect you from even casual contact with these huge beasts.

Those very well could be ET bones and sculls. Also, there is no reason that our DNA and much of theirs wouldn't be alike.

My money is on the great flood that destroyed many of these structures. Another good "bet" might be the wars amongst the "lesser gods" destroyed them also.

Just my two cents. Damn good topic.

[fansongecho]

It is a cracker of a subject m8, and I like your interpretation as well Norval 

Say, check out the weight (est) of the block at number 1 on the Wiki pages below - 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_monoliths

I am going to look into the possible dates and heights above sea level these suckers were built, once I finish building a king size bed from its constituent parts for H's daughter, who is staying this bank holiday weekend, catch you this evening 

[Canine]

It is a cracker of a subject

Agreed. 
I also want to say that this topic is way for fun now that everyone has high res cameras.  The pics and vids we are are now getting of these places are astounding. It's only a matter of time before enough people piece it all together, whatever it may be. 

It seems like we might be looking at cases of intermittent technological apogee.

[zorgon]

why doesn't anyone (but me, it seems) figure that WE the original earth dwellers were smart enough  to build such things and also to leave the planet and that the succeeding generations have dumbed down to now?

That is what I have been saying all along The Ancients   long before the Incas... built megaliths all over the world using that puzzle block system. The Incas only used those old foundations to build on

we had knowledge  that is long lost and are so inferior thinking of ourselves we have to blame outsiders or some god theory

yes LOTS of knowledge lost  We see the Great Pyramid built in all there glory  yet not ONE piece of evidence on how they were built recorded and all the ones after were sloppy copies

The antikythera mechanism.. a computer with advance gears  dated before we invented advance gears and no clue where it came from before it was on that ship that sank (most likely Atlantis )  The fact that the computer simulates OUR solar system indicates it's an earth device

why can't the ufo's beings be the original US coming back to visit home?

Well they COULD but

1) We first have to PROVE they exist  So far all we have is good stories and a whole lot of 'experiencers' that channel these aliens. I have been going over this on facebook... consensus is I am an idiot and I NEED to meditate and open my mind to allow these ET's to make contact  and THEN I will know they are real..

Well okay   NO  because all my Rosicrucian training and Tibetan studies has told me DO NOT channel these imps into your life.  They are NOT friendly and love to play with humans making them believe what they want to hear..(ie a Ouija Board is NOT reaching your dear departed... it is opening the door to the imps that live between the realms)

So until we can actually SEE a flesh and blood Alien (dead or alive)  we have yet to prove they exist outside of the mind of new age UFO religion believers

2) If it is US returning  WHY not just land and say "HERE WE ARE  This is our home!"  I suppose they might be pissed off that the monkeys took over   I suppose they might be reptilians and are pissed off that the monkeys took over   Some say WE evolved into Greys and came back in time to fix us so we don't turn into Greys... but so far we don't have ONE flesh and blood alien to ask or body to study

3)  While the EVIDENCE suggests that advanced tools were used on the stones (like the obvious circular saw cuts on some of the unfinished stones long kept from sight) the problem arises ... WHERE ARE THE TOOLS?  Wooden hammers and copper chisels survived...  I have been to many old mine sites and quarries collecting rocks... the areas are littered with old tools bits and machinery parts... yet in these ancient quarries not ONE bit of a tool, not ONE wall painting of such tools and not ONE record of such tools

I cut stones... I use a circular saw with diamond grit on the edge of the blade. It leaves EXACTLY the same marks on the rock face as I see in those Megaliths. A laser cuter melts its way through so no saw marks  surface would be polished from melt  I have used a wire saw with diamond grit. (like a string with grit) It does not leave saw marks

4) Stories of Atlantis, Lemuria and Mu abound... these were advance civilizations not of Alien Origin.  That old computer found on that Greek ship most likely came from there. But NO other evidence these civilizations existed... Sure "sank" beneath the sea is a good one LOL  I mean look at the lava covering houses in Hawaii right now... Lava could certainly destroy all evidence of a civilization... but lava cannot be used as an excuse in Egypt

So Aliens and gods are always the go to answer when we can't figure it out LOL

Zhangzhung
The Search for the Zhangzhung Empire

This Lost Empire supposedly had huge megaliths and is dated to neolithic Tibet...  But there is almost ZERO trace of it

It has been said that this was the true Shambahla  The Tibetan equivalent of Atlantis.  It has alos been speculated that this was on the other side of a portal

Zhangzhung or Shangshung was an ancient culture and kingdom of western and northwestern Tibet, which pre-dates the culture of Tibetan Buddhism in Tibet. Zhangzhung culture is associated with the Bon religion, which in turn, has influenced the philosophies and practices of Tibetan Buddhism. Zhangzhung people are mentioned frequently in ancient Tibetan texts as the original rulers of central and western Tibet. Only in the last two decades have archaeologists been given access to do archaeological work in the areas once ruled by the Zhangzhung.

Recently, a tentative match has been proposed between the Zhangzhung and an Iron Age culture now being uncovered on the Changtang plateau in northwestern Tibet

The Bon religion that was the birth of Buddhism is said to have predated the iranian civilizations and moved east

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Zhangzhung_01.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhangzhung

That is one I need to get back to


As for Aline Spacecraft...  people forget that UFO does not mean Alien Spacecraft   Aside from the few good videos we have from Bob Lazar and A51Watcher  and a few night vision ones, we really have NOTHING beyond balls of light or energy moving around in weird ways

With all the supposed crash sites of flying saucers, we still don't have ONE nuts and bolts flying sauce, either whole, crashed or even a scrap.  Lots of STORIES  yes, weird lights and glowing objects yes...  but I am still convinced the glowing orbs that 'shut down' that nuclear missile site were plasma critters just being curious

After watching the last presidential election proved to me that the governments of the world are just too STUPID to be capable of 100% keeping a lid on this... Podesta was supposedly a top insider and HE didn't know  and wanted to make it a campaign issue. Hillary thought it a joke...  Then we saw the whole email scandal and the Podesta pedophile stuff (he is nowhere to be found , already in gitmo perhaps?)

So if someon at that level of the whitehouse doesn't know, who does?

195 countries in the world... many at war with each other... You really believe they can all be working together to keep the secret? Or do Aliens never land in those countries?

The recent pentagon UFO program  re;eased yes but CLOSED  "too expensive, nothing to see here"  The recent British MoD UFO office... CLOSED  "too expensive, nothing to see here"  and the latest crap over the skin walker ranch deal with Harry Reid and others saying they are demons from hell and that is why the secrecy 

ah heck i'm going out to the garden

Good idea  I already did mine and can't afford to build that Greenhouse yet   

[space otter]

you ask where are the tools .. where is the writing

why would they have to be the same as what we considered tools and language?   they weren't the same..they were much advanced in their abilities...perhaps all of the tools and language were mental (?) actions/expressions of a type we are rarely capable of now
and just think they could have been carried out from a far distant spot

look at coral gables - that one man figured out how to move those stones..even if the were coral and not granite
there are healers  and psychics who acquire info in a way most can't

i feel the info is there on a shelf we haven't accessed...not that we can't but that we don't believe we can
we think and have been taught that we  need to meditate or pray or ask someones permission
instead of  just reaching for it

i have spend years trying to shut down the streams of info charging at my brain every time i attempt sleep i have mostly and sadly been successful..but i know that it's there for anyone/everyone
the old ones may have gone exploring but they left it all for us to use..you just have to tune it in
how sad and disfunctional they must think us to have stuffed what we can into a computer and depend on a machine for extracting  things we could do better  on our own with just a little tweaking
sigh
sorry soap box again...

garden is coming along but we are 11 inches above normal so the challenges are not normal ones 

[zorgon]

you ask where are the tools .. where is the writing

yes... yes I did 

why would they have to be the same as what we considered tools and language?   they weren't the same..they were much advanced in their abilities...perhaps all of the tools and language were mental (?) actions/expressions of a type we are rarely capable of now
and just think they could have been carried out from a far distant spot

BECAUSE... the asumption is that the EGYPTIANS did it and since the egyptians drew pictures of everything else they did one can assume they would have painted about stone cutting or pyramid building at LEAST ONCE SOMWHERE 

I mean we can then speculate about other tools like a lens focusing sun light to burn their way through the stone. I have also repeaatedly posted that I was there and saw them levitaing stones into place with a sonic staff (but I cannot prove this other than the fact that the Tibetans did the same thing )



But that would leave tell tale signs of melting  and that is easy to identify... What we are seeing is marks exactly the same as you would see from the saws in a modern marble or granite quarry...  the circular striations left by a saw... the unfinished saw cuts...  the core drill holes   Just go to any stone quarry and compare

Like THIS one... this looks exactly like that stone in the museum with the unfinished saw cut  I WILL find it again  LOL   I think it was on Facebook

look at coral gables - that one man figured out how to move those stones..even if the were coral and not granite

MOVING the stones and cutting them are two entirely different skills   You can lift huge stones with cantilevers... you can float them in barges....  Coral is relatively light weight compared to granite  Coral can easily be cut with even a rope and grit saw  and easily worked with a hammer and chisel.  However cutting shaping and polishing granite is way above that in skills... and the main point is that to date NO ONE has been able to replicate the task even on a small scale with the tools that they claim were used...

Now where did the tools go?  Well if it was a really ancient culture... the tools simply rotted   Out her in the desert all the mining equipment abandoned from 50 years ago is almost rusted to nothing  in a 1000 years it will all be dust  in 10,000 years even the dust will have been blown away or washed away. Also the factor that hunter gathers that came rafter would scrounge anything metallic and other useful items and reuse it or recycle it

That Saxon Gold that was recently dug up in England  It was scrap gold taken from other items, ready to be molten into something new...

there are healers  and psychics who acquire info in a way most can't

True  but there are two problems with that  1) not all psychics tell the same story... so either they are seeing into different times or dimensions  or they are making it up.  And since you cannot verify that info, the credibility is believe what you want level (unless you yourself have had that vision) and 2) The ArMaP types will not accept information from those sources. You saw his comment about those invisible Rosicrucian files

[fansongecho]

great thread and topics, I am just watching this -

fascinating - 

[space otter]

your reply is assume and speculate   and can't verify so i quote it back to you  in regards to your supposition

the asumption is that the EGYPTIANS did it

I mean we can then speculate

true  but there are two problems with that

And since you cannot verify that info, the credibility is believe what you want level

all of us can only put our own spin on all of it cause none of us truly know..except of course unless you've been there and have substantial proof....but we don't .. sadly

so yeah it all comes to believe it or don't