Manitoba - High Quality Footage of Multiple UFO Event

[Canine]

It does not appear to be hoaxed.

You'll have to check it out and make your own judgement call:

[fansongecho]

Cracking post Canine - 

I wonder if A51 can look at this, and see if the boyzz can come back with a definitive analysis & statement on that video? I would love to know !

The voices and commentary by the guys observing seem legit too..



Fans' 

[ArMaP]

It reminds me of aeroplanes flying towards the camera, but the bigger light appears too bright for that.

[Canine]

How big do you guys think the primary contact is?

Anyone want to give the Ballpark estimate on the Diameter?

[ArMaP]

How big do you guys think the primary contact is?

It's impossible to know.
We only see a light, in what appears to be a low ambient light condition, making it look even brighter.

[Canine]

It's impossible to know.

We would need radar data. To get that, you'd have to know the details and contact the handsome fellow who works in the airport nearest to the event. Maybe contact one of the pilots who was up nearby.

But we get some stuff from from the video data alone... How bright is it relative to the other more conventional looking objects?

[ArMaP]

But we get some stuff from from the video data alone... How bright is it relative to the other more conventional looking objects?

I don't know if it's even possible to know that, as what we see in the video depends on how the camera was adjusted (probably automatically) for those light conditions.
Also, knowing the brightness of a light says nothing about the size of the object emitting the light.

[Canine]

armap, would you say that the larger object in the video is bigger than the smaller objects?

[ArMaP]

I can only say that I don't know, the only thing I know is that the apparent brightness of the main object is bigger than that of the other objects.

Is that because the whole object is emitting light and the object is bigger? Or is it because the other objects are farther away? Or are the other objects bigger but with smaller lights? Or is the light of the main object stronger but the object is the same size of the others?

Impossible to know.

[Canine]

Armap, I will make a full disclosure here. I know more than I am letting on about this case.

But  that aside, I think that you might be needlessly sowing doubt. I think that the properties of the objects are clear to all; one is larger and brighter than the others.

Truth, like skepticism can be abused. Honestly, I feel like I am being gaslit for sharing this with you.

[ArMaP]

But  that aside, I think that you might be needlessly sowing doubt. I think that the properties of the objects are clear to all; one is larger and brighter than the others.

That's not my opinion.

All my life I have been like this: if I have clear data about something, I can have an opinion about it, but if I do not have clear data then I do not choose an option over others.

Does the main object appear bigger than the others? Yes. Is it really bigger? I cannot know.

Some people make conjectures based on assumptions, but I try to avoid them, unless the possibilities are just two or three and easy to verify, otherwise it's just a waste of my resources.

[fansongecho]

@Canine, for myself I think it is very difficult to tell the distance and elevation and relative velocity of the UAP to the truck/Van/Car,  and its relative velocity to the ground and so this makes trying to determine the first objects size very difficult, this, and the apparent target(s) visual scintillation also add to the problem of guessing their sizes.

I think we can all agree that they are not conventional fixed or rotary winged aircraft, or balloons or hang gliders etc - maybe its some one who has cleverly disguised a drone but I doubt that too-

Observations, and interpretation of observation is also a tricky number, as most Police-persons will tell you, getting statements from more than one person who observed an incident will most often provide conflicting testimony on the event/facts -

It took me a while to get where ArMAP is coming from with his comments on threads, but I have become a better "poster" (I hope) due in fact to ArMap and others on here, who have a very critical thinking mode engaged when replying to posts -

(also I think ArMap 1st language isn't English but I could be wrong  )

I am a relative newcomer to this site and am very much driven by my emotions - and I do need to box them off sometimes, and become more analytical of posts and images -

Anyhoo, for what it is worth, I think the footage is genuine, but I am a hopeful sceptic on UAP/UFO's 

I would dearly like to hear the background story on the footage / incident if you have some other information you are free to disclose bud?


Cheers!

Fansongecho 

[ArMaP]

I think we can all agree that they are not conventional fixed or rotary winged aircraft, or balloons or hang gliders etc - maybe its some one who has cleverly disguised a drone but I doubt that too-

Not all.

I don't see a thing that makes it impossible for those lights being from conventional aircraft.

(also I think ArMap 1st language isn't English but I could be wrong  )

You're not wrong, English is my third language, I'm Portuguese and the only foreign language I learned at school was French.

I am a relative newcomer to this site and am very much driven by my emotions - and I do need to box them off sometimes, and become more analytical of posts and images -

Emotions are good, but they should be avoided when trying to be objective. At least that's what I think.

[Canine]

Some of the smaller objects in the video appear and disappear, how would one account for this?

Did a pilot decide to switch off his light? Was the law too much to obey that night?

[ArMaP]

Some of the smaller objects in the video appear and disappear, how would one account for this?

They changed direction, I have seen that happen many times.

When an aeroplane is relatively close to the airport and turns on the landing lights. If the plane is going in the direction of the viewer then the landing lights are visible, but if it is going to a 90º angle the lights are not visible.