Project Camelot with Robert David Steele - Worth a look if you are interested in

[fansongecho]

Kerry and how Camelot evolved and Kerry's views on esoteric matters'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHY_fZv5HI&list=PLURHNoP_pCEg-5axkk_ViayUjQo6p3hKw&index=3

*disclaimer - I don't fully buy into everything Kerry speaks about on this video.

Cheers!

Fans'

[The Seeker]

That was quite a jumbled up mish mash strewn about in this video, mainly due to Robert David Steele and his methodology; I stopped it about 15 minutes into the vid because Kerry couldn't complete a thought or make a coherent answer due to Steele constantly interrupting her...

Most of what they attempted to cover is in the current Ufology circus, the secret space program, 10,000 people living on mars, nordic aliens from the Pleades and Orion, super soldiers, Nazi elements in government and Antartica, and so on and so forth, being tossed out with a machinegun and a snow shovel...

a great example of chaos and confusion 

[fansongecho]

yep, that interview technique sucked, but it was the first time I heard how she got started, there was 1 nugget that rang a cosmic bell for me though Seeker and that was the statement that we have multiple self's that are reincarnated across many realms.. some of the stuff was interesting as well, but yes RDS could have done a better job for sure.

Cheers!

Fans' 

[fansongecho]

Additional to the above -

Also the info on the Vatican, without offending any practicing Catholic or those into Religion, and trying not to bang on about rampant paedophilia, they called their telescope Lucifer - someone has a great sense of humour at the Vatican it would seem.

https://redice.tv/news/vatican-tied-mount-graham-observatory-launches-lucifer-telescope


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=12697

They have 85 Kilometers of ancient texts/books etc (if the sources are to be believed)

https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2010/sep/08/vatican-secret-archives-pope

http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-writings/what-really-lies-hidden-vatican-secret-archives-007468

With rumours and speculation that there are also documents and texts that are off-limits but contain information and data that would rock the religious world - without proper links or testimony I cant verify the claims sadly.

So when Kerry made mention of the Vatican in the above I could accept what she was saying.

I am going to go back and watch the video again as I watched it at 5:30am UK time so I wasn't fully awake, and see if I can pick out any other tidbits of info that ring a bell with me.

Cheers,

Fans' 

[petrus4]

I stopped it about 15 minutes into the vid because Kerry couldn't complete a thought or make a coherent answer due to Steele constantly interrupting her...

That wouldn't bother me.  Kerry was the main reason why I stopped watching PC.  I don't think I've encountered another human being who was more obsessed with the sound of their own voice.  There were so many times when I would yell at my screen for her to shut up, because I wanted to listen to the person she was interviewing, and NOT her.

Most of what they attempted to cover is in the current Ufology circus, the secret space program, 10,000 people living on mars, nordic aliens from the Pleades and Orion, super soldiers, Nazi elements in government and Antartica, and so on and so forth, being tossed out with a machinegun and a snow shovel...

This is the other problem.  It's all completely unverifiable, incoherent BS which doesn't mean anything.  I wish I understood why anyone still wastes their time with ufology.

[fansongecho]

Hi Petrus,

I just lost 20 minuets of typing a response to your Q about why people follow Ufology but my pc threw a hissy fit and I lost my work Grrr.. 

So I will try and answer your question about why I follow UFO and other esoteric subjects - and I am not trying to be clever or glib, but this clip with Trinity speaking with Neo from the Matrix in the club scene is one reason I follow the topic of UFO's etc -




Peace out...

Fans'   

[ArMaP]

Also the info on the Vatican, without offending any practicing Catholic or those into Religion, and trying not to bang on about rampant paedophilia, they called their telescope Lucifer - someone has a great sense of humour at the Vatican it would seem.

Lucifer means "bringer of light" and was also the name of Venus in the morning.

They have 85 Kilometers of ancient texts/books etc (if the sources are to be believed)

No surprises there, any 400 year old archive from an organisation that loves bureaucracy would be big.
Lisbon's archive has 22 km, the archive of the Portuguese fascist youth organisation, "Mocidade Portuguesa", that lasted only 38 years, has 1.25 kilometres.

Also, archives are measured in linear metres, so if you have a bookcase with 8 shelves and each shelf is one metre long then you have an 8 linear metre bookcase, so although the amount of information is big, the size of the archive is not as big as it sounds.

PS: I know what I'm talking about, as I have been working with archives for more than 20 years.

With rumours and speculation that there are also documents and texts that are off-limits but contain information and data that would rock the religious world - without proper links or testimony I cant verify the claims sadly.

I'm sure there are.

So when Kerry made mention of the Vatican in the above I could accept what she was saying.

I'm also sure that's why people keep on talking about the Vatican's archives, as it's a sure way of grabbing people's attentions.

[fansongecho]

Thanks ArMaP, for clarification

re Lucifer, back in my early childhood, I lived in a tiny village that had 2 chapels and 1 14th Century Church, and the villagers, including my adopted parents were all very religious, and I learnt very early on that Lucifer was one of the alternate names for the devil, and was always associated with evil - maybe this was just my village ? it wasn't until later that I became aware the name had other associations.

It may be obvious, but I dont trust any and all religious orders, any more than I trust the "establishment", or the military industrial/intelligence complex, so I do think that someone who named that telescope was indeed laughing out loud when they made that acronym up for their telescope -

I recall listening to Malachie Marten on Coast-2-Coast a number of times, and on the later shows he seemed to be concerned for his safety, I will see if I can dig out the shows and ping you a link ArMaP.

https://thewildvoice.org/lucifer-vatican-malachi-martin/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/one-man-close-to-the-pope-responsible-for-so-much-evil-in-the-vatican

https://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/Satan_in_the_Vatican.html

https://ffrf.org/faq/feeds/item/18500-the-scandal-of-pedophilia-in-the-church

Also I see a awful symmetry with the subjects of Pedophilia in the RC religion, the name of that telescope, and satanism in the vatican - I cant prove anything of course, but when you see the reports about priests who were involved in historical child abuse across many many countries, it doesn take to much to start connecting the dots.

Cheers!

Fans'

[ArMaP]

I recall listening to Malachie Marten on Coast-2-Coast a number of times, and on the later shows he seemed to be concerned for his safety, I will see if I can dig out the shows and ping you a link ArMaP.

Thanks, but I'm not interested.

Also I see a awful symmetry with the subjects of Pedophilia in the RC religion, the name of that telescope, and satanism in the vatican - I cant prove anything of course, but when you see the reports about priests who were involved in historical child abuse across many many countries, it doesn take to much to start connecting the dots.

No, it doesn't take much to start "connecting the dots", but do the dots really exist?

[fansongecho]

For me, those dots are very real ArMaP...   As are the documented cases, and victims' of the abuse, rape and torture buddy.

[The Seeker]

For me, those dots are very real ArMaP...   As are the documented cases, and victims' of the abuse, rape and torture buddy.

I agree with fans' on this ArMaP, the dots exist, too many documented cases and piles of evidence, too many people coming forward testifying against members of the RCC...

@Fans': see if you can locate the shows with Father Malachi Martin and provide the links, please, I also listened to him several times on Coast before his passing...

[petrus4]

Thanks, but I'm not interested.
No, it doesn't take much to start "connecting the dots", but do the dots really exist?

Armap, as far as I am concerned, there is vast circumstantial evidence to suggest that the Catholic church has contained an undercurrent of satanism which was almost as prevalent as Christianity itself.

I am not among those people who believe that Catholicism should be completely abolished; I think the church has, and continues to make valuable contributions to human wellbeing.  I also believe that the church has enormous artistic value as well.

Yet while I remind people to remember Catholicism's positive value, I must also remind myself that the church is guilty of some genuinely heinous crimes.  Catholicism, and Christianity more broadly, is largely responsible for providing the theological justification for colonialism and the mass slaughter of the world's indigenous population, if nothing else.  The Great Commission is soaked in blood.

[ArMaP]

For me, those dots are very real ArMaP...   As are the documented cases, and victims' of the abuse, rape and torture buddy.

Sure the documented cases are true, I just don't "buy" the idea that that's something organised by the church itself instead of the actions of a few people that use the church as a means to reach their intended goals.

[ArMaP]

Armap, as far as I am concerned, there is vast circumstantial evidence to suggest that the Catholic church has contained an undercurrent of satanism which was almost as prevalent as Christianity itself.

See the underlined word. "Suggest", to me, it's not enough.

[fansongecho]

@Seeker - - This is his first interview -

His Bibliography - https://www.biblio.com/malachi-martin/author/474 

(I didn't know he had written so many books)

Cheers,

Fans'

*Edit - Hey ArMaP, don't get me wrong, I do believe that there are some good folk's who join religious orders because they believe in their particular "God", and that they want to go and do good in the world (across all faiths)

My beef is with the zeolots that use religion to further their own particular ideological ends, or use religion to conquer, oppress and abuse.

I have knowledge of a man of faith who was happily married, but confessed to being attracted to young boys and girls (he is dead now) on the outside he seemed to be a "normal" jolly man of wise words and kind demeaner.

As I mentioned before I am not religous and I never will be, it may seem that I am having a pop against one faith in particular, but the reality is I am wary of all of the religions that I have come into direct contact with.

Peaceout - Fansongecho -