Alex Jones' Infowars content removed from Apple, Facebook, YouTube and Spotify

[spacemaverick]

Facefook might be useful for firing propaganda and finding out what events are on in your area but it is a stupid place to try to have a sensible discussion about anything complex.  The fact that any idiot can comment is the reason. 

You got that right.  I use it to advertise my blog and other business and church activities.  Sometimes I even do politics there and that stirs interest but I don't get into arguments.  I also use it to keep in touch with friends and family.

[micjer]

 Twitter CEO says 'people can form their own opinions' about Alex Jones, Infowars

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/twitter-dorsey-alex-jones-statement-1.4777254

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey defended his company's decision not to ban right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his Infowars show, as many other social media platforms have done, saying he did not break any rules.

Over the past week, Facebook, Apple, YouTube and Spotify took down material published by Jones, reflecting more aggressive enforcement of their hate speech policies after rising online backlash and rising pressure on Twitter to do the same.

Jones's Facebook account has also been suspended for 30 days but he still has a "verified" Twitter account. A separate Twitter account for Infowars is also still running.

"We didn't suspend Alex Jones or Infowars yesterday," Dorsey said in a series of tweets late Tuesday . "We know that's hard for many, but the reason is simple: he hasn't violated our rules. We'll enforce if he does."

[Pimander]

I think ArMaP hit the nail on the head.  It is about rules and FB & YT have rules that pretty much allow them to ban you because they basically don't like what you are doing.  If they think they get a bad press they respond to minimise it.  Alex Jones has fallen foul of "Public Relations" by the look of it as opposed to any desire to suppress what Jones is saying

Freedom of expression is different to using somebodies platform.  you can say whatever you like but we don't have to let you say it on this website for example.  It always feels unfair.  I've been on the receiving end of it myself on other sites but you have to just respect the owner of the sites right to choose what they allow to happen.  That's what owning something means.

[petrus4]

Seeing that most people in the world appear not to have a brain I suppose Facebook will have enough members for a long time.

I predict it will float for a while on inertia, as sufficiently large networks generally do.  During Aquarius at least, however, human psychology is extremely herd-based.  Positive and negative feedback loops get formed on the basis of where people think they can obtain the most positive social status.  Facebook is currently in the neutral phase between the flip from positive to negative loop. 

Sometimes when you drop a glass or clay vessel on a tiled floor, you can see the object hanging suspended in the air for a fraction of a second, before it shatters on the ground.  That's where Facebook is right now, and don't think Mark doesn't know it.  He's been dumping a lot of his stock recently.

[Irene]

I think what's happened with Alex is that a combination of stress and his divorce have resulted in his health breaking down, both physically and psychologically.

He's gained a significant amount of weight and does not look healthy.

During this process he's gotten a little wild in what he says.

[petrus4]

He's gained a significant amount of weight and does not look healthy.

During this process he's gotten a little wild in what he says.

I'm still looking forward to the mental illness which causes people to view "hate speech" as a valid concept to pass, though.  Unfortunately I think it might take a while.

[Irene]

I'm still looking forward to the mental illness which causes people to view "hate speech" as a valid concept to pass, though.  Unfortunately I think it might take a while.

Try psychosis. No filters. None.

[petrus4]

Fascinating video from Stefan about this, here.  I don't listen to him all the time, but occasionally he really is good.  Alex is about to experience the beneficial side of the Streisand Effect.

[micjer]

If you read the comments on the above video apparently Alex has an increase of a lot of members since this has gone down.  People want to investigate what he was saying now.

[astr0144]

THE DARK SIDE COMES AFTER ALEX JONES (STAR WARS PARODY)

'If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine'



Seems Alex is using a video channel called bitchute. at least on his infowars website.

I am not sure if he was using this at the same time he was on youtube or if this is now something that he is using to replace youtube !

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EEbr0BexDUGR/

His Channel suggests he set it up 5 months ago.. probably when he was aware of what was likely to happen wih youtube..

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/infowars/

it does not seem as good as youtube in how one can use it or what you can do with it.


https://www.infowars.com/the-dark-side-comes-after-alex-jones-star-wars-parody/

[spacemaverick]

THE DARK SIDE COMES AFTER ALEX JONES (STAR WARS PARODY)

'If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine'



Seems Alex is using a video channel called bitchute. at least on his infowars website.

I am not sure if he was using this at the same time he was on youtube or if this is now something that he is using to replace youtube !



https://www.bitchute.com/video/EEbr0BexDUGR/


https://www.infowars.com/the-dark-side-comes-after-alex-jones-star-wars-parody/

Bichute is one alternative to Youtube which just recently come into existence.  It is still gathering funding and they don't have the restrictions you encounter on YT.  UGETUBE is another alternative and was started by an entity called the UTAH GUN Exchange, hence  UGETUBE.

[astr0144]

Thanks for the info SpaceMav.

Its good that someone was familiar with the other video channels. and is aware how they compare to YT..

It would be good if some of these channels could gain more popularity to give YT some competition ..so they do not wholely dominate the market to have such control over policing what can or cannot be posted online.

Bichute is one alternative to Youtube which just recently come into existence.  It is still gathering funding and they don't have the restrictions you encounter on YT.  UGETUBE is another alternative and was started by an entity called the UTAH GUN Exchange, hence  UGETUBE.

[petrus4]

Of all the services mentioned, I only use two; Facebook and YouTube.  Apple in particular will never see a single red cent of my money, and they never have.



This video is a summary of Apple's malevolence, from a man who is essentially Steve Jobs' answer to Captain Ahab.  May he continue to fight the good fight.

[petrus4]

Another video about Alex, which does not cast him in the most flattering light.  An unusually open minded man decided to try Jones' health supplements, diet, and other advice for 30 days, and did not have a positive experience.

I do not condone the censorship of Jones or anyone else; but the available evidence does seem to point to him having steadily gone off the proverbial rails over the last 12 years or so.

My point is not that Jones should be censored.  My point is that the people who want to censor, chose their target well, from the point of view that it definitely appears that Alex is mentally ill, so more disingenuous and less intelligent people will be telling themselves that in his specific case the censorship is a good thing, because of Jones' paranoia.  This is also why they chose Islam as the scapegoat for the War on Terror, because some Muslims literally do aspire to take over the world.

Whenever they are setting a precedent, in committing an act which is known to be tyrannical, they must always be very careful to choose the target in such a way, that the people are relieved that that specific target has been black bagged; so that as a result, people will not be thinking about the fact that the precedent that anyone can now potentially be black bagged.

[astr0144]

It was interesting to see what that guy said about Alex Jones and to inform us about his opinions and experiences on A.Js health products that he tested for 30 days.

Yes some of the clips show A.J appearing at times as looking insane..

If what A.J has told us over the years however is even half truth or less.. to do what he has done over all those years... I think would send most people insane..
He is dealling with it every day in indepth detail..with some of the most depressing issues.. and few people elsewhere match what he has attempted to do..

So much so I reallly have no idea how he has done what he has done.. even if he was faking it all..

I know when I watched his material in the 1st two years., . I felt quite disturbed at times and maybe still continue to do so if I think too deeply about it all.. I am sure many others have been effected also to some degree...but we also have gone past  a certain point that we also have become ammune to a lot of it...

I personally think I could see many a truth to what he descibes.. but I may also have been quite gullible to somethings..

But its always going to be the case with his viewers.. Id say at least 66 % or more..maybe even 80 % of his followers could be  easily taken in by at least half of what he talks about.

Especially if those people on not on forums with people who can question thing about him in intellegent ways..Many people are not educated enough to really know or question some of his material.. or would need to be on the right forums for sometime to be able to make better judgements..


In ref to A.Js suppliments... It maybe that they are legit in somethings, but it would not surprise me at all if they are 3 X more than what you could buy them elsewhere..

Others could be fakes..

I am not sure if he has ever suggested that his products will help anyone Grow their hair back !  I think that would be most unlikely possible..

But testing things just for 30 days.. may also not be enough time to get results in other areas that he claims that the products are suggested to help improve ones health or vitality  for eg.

Other possibilities are there are always going to be some people who could create such videos to target A.J and try to discredit him further...which I am sure will always be the case ... especially those who he claims to be against..

Its a wonder that there has not been more material created to discredit him made by the likes of the NWO...

There have been other Radio show hosts such as Glen Beck who have attempted to discredit him in the past..quite badly at times. On that note A.J has managed to counter or oppose and attack back at them on many occasion..He seems to have normally been mentally tough & Strong enough to handle such things..But Alex Jones claims his IQ is about 140 similar to Hitlers... So he is stronger than most..and his personality type seems to make him the way he is..

But People like A.J seem to come from at least a Middle class background.. and often such people are brough up or boorn with good verbal abilities and seem to also often have abilities to have gained good understandings about Life..in ref to Morals.. rights and wrongs and also have counciller type skills.

What I mean by that .. is your average working person..often will have certain issues in their life and need councilling to do deal with their problems..which is someone who understands about such problems and can help and advise someone to make them see things in a different way..

But to me Alex Jones seemed to know a LOT of how one should view things and the rights and wrongs of some many topics that he referred to as if he had been highly educated into so many related topics.. far more so , than an average person would have been aware about..

He had studied certain topic at College like History... and I think his father was something like a dentist.. so was quite  well educated..

He has however created a most disturbing image to how the  World maybe..
and it can still be hard to know if he is legit or working on behalf of those he claims to be against.. as that is always a possibility..

What a good shot the Guy made at the end of the video in throwing A.Js suppliment into the bin... in throwing it so far over his shoulder !   I wonder how many times he attempted to do that before he hit the target 

it all looked so natural as if he did it 1st time..