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Strange Something Swimming in Loch Ness

Started by micjer, August 21, 2018, 11:33:38 PM

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micjer



occured on June 8 2018

"Went to the beach Loch Ness for a day out as the weather was lovely so I thought I'd make the most of it. I lay back sunbathing with a friend on the beach, having lots of laughs. Then as the day went on, we looked at the water and saw something unusual. It looked about 20-feet long and kept going up and down, so I turned my camera video. We couldn't believe what we were seeing! It came right round as you can see in the video and then passed to the right of us in the water where I could no longer see it. It was actually amazing whatever it was, it was big! This was in June so the beach was quiet at the time and no boats were out. I just really couldn't believe my eyes."
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

#1
The video seems to show something quite real, and maybe one of the best videos that I have seen of something large in Loch Ness.

I dont know what it is we are seeing... 

Other than there seems to be 3 or 4 or more things in the water quite far out and moving from the left to right... over quite a long distance...and its seems as if it maybe a few things that are following each other...

If I had to guess, id says it looks like a group of dolphins following each other...
but How they got in the Loch I do not know...I am not sure if there have been Dolphins seen in  the loch before..

What ever it is ... something seems to come above the surface a few times for short intervals, but enough to seem to be able to make out that it appears something realistic than waves or floating branches...

It would certainly be one long monster if it was just one single  Nessie !  ???

I have seen a few TV programs / videos on Loch Ness and on a few occasions some of the recorded things were suggested to be large waves...

At certain stages in this video... I get the same impression on a few occasions... but also at the same time... there appears moments when its something more than water waves..

It seems a very interesting video..

The video on this link shows some creature that could be similar to what ever it is..



and it also explains how waves could be mistaken for Nessie.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/science/how-waves-could-have-created-the-loch-ness-m/

Thanks for posting Micjer...


micjer

At one point I thought it was just a wave, possibly from the wake of a boat, but after watching more of it I am not sure what it is.  If it is linked together it is pretty large.
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144







http://lochnessmystery.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-fascinating-photograph.html


A very unusual picture taken on the 22nd August when NHS worker, Kate Powell, snapped this finned object in the loch. A slightly better picture in the Aberdeen Press and Journal shows the spray suggestive of an object moving in the water.




Naturally, when such a picture arises, you think of the F. C. Adams picture from 1934 which I wrote on here and which I speculated was indeed taken at Loch Ness.





Today's picture looks to all intents and purposes like a cetecean's fin. Dolphins or porpoises had also been claimed to have been sighted in Loch Ness before as the newspaper article below from the very same Daily Mail on the 16th September 1914 shows. However, the controversy about whether such creatures could get into Loch Ness was not conclusive.






Steve thinks this is a reproduction of the 1868 hoax when fishermen dumped a bottlenose dolphin into the loch to fool the locals. However, can dolphins or porpoises indeed get through the River Ness complex to Loch Ness? Another thought is that dolphins regularly break surface and so where are the other pictures of this creature? Steve Feltham has posted that another person may have seen it, but a regular surface breaker such as this should turn up in further photographs. We shall wait and see (and I suspect that the seagull explanation will soon be winging its way in the same fashion as Jennifer Bruce's famous picture).

The account from the Daily Mail follows.







zorgon

#4
Dolphins are very popular for spectators in Moray Firth... which is the bay that the rivers from Loch Ness flow into..

However if you look at Google maps you will see that those rivers are very narrow and shallow (you can see the mud)  No way a dolphin would swim up those rivers.





So it's either a bunch of things swimming in single file, or its a long thing with several humps  :D  Like THIS one

Новые фото лох-несского чудовища

Давно не виделись! По легенде, огромное существо по имени Несси обитает в шотландском озере Лох-Несс. Эта фотография появилась в интернете не так давно. Мужчина, сделавший фото, плавал в озере и утверждает, что неожиданно заметил Несси, бороздящего водные просторы. Критики разрушают всю мистическую ауру, уверяя: на фото - тюлени, плывущие друг за другом.



Translation:

New photo of the Loch Ness Monster

Long time no see! According to legend, a huge creature named Nessie lives in the Scottish lake of Loch Ness. This photo appeared on the Internet not so long ago. The man who took the photo swam in the lake and claims that he suddenly noticed Nessie, who was plowing the water. Critics destroy the entire mystic aura, assuring: in the photo - seals, floating one after another.


If you told me that was a Python swimming in the Amazon I might believe you but there is no way that photos shows seals swimming in a line LOL

Skeptics are so desperate sometimes :P

petrus4

Quote from: zorgon on August 22, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
If you told me that was a Python swimming in the Amazon I might believe you nut there is no way that photos shows seals swimming in a line LOL

Skeptics are so desperate sometimes :P

The furthest left object does look like a seal's head to me.  The other two look like what I'd expect from a large eel; although that shine is suggestive of seal blubber, as well.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on August 22, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
Dolphins are very popular for spectators in <oray Firth... which is the bay that the rivers from Loch Ness flow into..

However if you look at Google maps you will see that those rivers are very narrow and shallow (you can see the mud)  No way a dolphin would swim up those rivers.
I didn't know you were a specialist in dolphin behaviour.  :P

QuoteIf you told me that was a Python swimming in the Amazon I might believe you nut there is no way that photos shows seals swimming in a line LOL
I wouldn't believe it, as pythons are from Africa and Asia. In the Amazon they have anacondas, and they move from side to side when swimming.

To me, that thing circled in yellow looks like the head of a seal.


QuoteSkeptics are so desperate sometimes :P
No comments.  ::)

petrus4

Quote from: ArMaP on August 22, 2018, 01:49:51 PM
To me, that thing circled in yellow looks like the head of a seal.

That's what I thought, Armap.  I used to be interested in the idea of Nessie, but I've seen a lot of hoaxes, and I'm a lot more skeptical these days.  Given that the creature in question is usually implied to be an amphibian of some sort, I think it would be more credible if there were some reports of it on land, as well; and something substantial.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

Quote from: petrus4 on August 22, 2018, 01:48:53 PM
The furthest left object does look like a seal's head to me.  The other two look like what I'd expect from a large eel; although that shine is suggestive of seal blubber, as well.

Well yeah they do :P but then that water isn't Loch Ness :P its more than likely Moray Firth which is muddy and home to many seals. Loch Mess water is black from peat...   a well known phenomema :P

You guys are way to easy :P  and never do a simple "right click search google for image" search to find the source and the story 

:o

::)

:P

astr0144

#9
From what I can recall... either side of Loch Ness there are canals or relatively narrow water ways that link it to the coast.

I have been to Loch Ness but only from the West side... I never got to see the far Eastern side towards Inverness....

But if its connected by a River on the East side.. if the tides are in, then the water levels would be higher and deeper... so any creatures from the sea, could swim in deeper water and the Mud areas would not be seen with the same effect.

But If I recall I think also on the East side , that there are canal type  LOCHS that any creature would have to by pass in order to get directly into Loch Ness..

Looking on a Closer up OS Map.. there is a NARROW  River Ness and a Caladonian  Canal that  pass through Inverness before they join to go into Loch Ness..




http://www.twojays.co.uk/images/map/caled_1.jpg








The creatures that maybe in the video... could also possibly be Seals.

I would say its always a possibility that someone could have obtained or caught seals or Dolphins and taken them and placed them into the Loch..

If there are either Dolpins or Seals in Loch Ness... then I think they would be seen a lot more often.. especially if there were say a few  Dolphins.

IN fact there was something on TV early this Morning where someone has taken a photo of something that they seen a few days ago that they said they saw something for about 1 minute and then it disappeared.. and soon later reapppeared again for about another Minute..

To me the Photo does not prove very much... as it could have been anything in the water.. but it could have been quite possibly a seals head..

Zorgon
QuoteDolphins are very popular for spectators in Moray Firth... which is the bay that the rivers from Loch Ness flow into..

However if you look at Google maps you will see that those rivers are very narrow and shallow (you can see the mud)  No way a dolphin would swim up those rivers.


"Z"
QuoteSo it's either a bunch of things swimming in single file, or its a long thing with several humps  :D  Like THIS one

Quote"Z"
If you told me that was a Python swimming in the Amazon I might believe you but there is no way that photos shows seals swimming in a line LOL


"Z"
QuoteWell yeah they do :P but then that water isn't Loch Ness :P its more than likely Moray Firth which is muddy and home to many seals. Loch Mess water is black from peat...   a well known phenomema :P


The creature on the left in the picture does look like its a Seal.

Its hard to say what the other two humps are ?   They could be two other Seals following the one on the left and what we see if them at differing positions as they propel through the water... and we could be seeing their humped backs as their heads have gone below the water level.

I would rather suspect that to be the case rather than it being one long creature showing its humps..







astr0144

#10
PROOF AT LAST? Girl, 12, takes 'best Loch Ness Monster picture for years' as 'head and neck' spotted 50ft from shore




QuoteCharlotte Robinson spotted the mythical monster on the first day of her holiday with her parents, as Nessie appeared to pop her head and neck out of the water

A YOUNG girl is said to have taken the best pictures of the Loch Ness Monster "for years" while she was holidaying with her parents.

Charlotte Robinson, 12, from Leeds was staying at the Loch Ness Highland Lodges at Invermoriston with her parents when she spotted the elusive beast just 50ft away on the first day of her holiday.


Charlotte says the famous monster popped its head out of the water for about a minute before resurfacing ten feet further away around seven minutes later.

The little girl was with her mum Kat, 41, a business intelligence data analyst, and dad Dave, 52, a factory worker.

Nessie made her appearance last Friday, August 17 and Charlotte managed to capture the moment on her Apple phone.

Charlotte told the Daily Record: "There was something in the water about 50 feet from the shore. I took a photo. It had a neck and head was in the shape of a hook.
Charlotte managed to snap the creature in the loch with her mobile phone

Nessie expert Steve Feltham said it was the best photo of the monster in years

Mum Kat said: "I couldn't believe it. Something's there. With all the sightings over the years there must be something in the loch."

Nessie expert Steve Feltham, 55, who has been searching for Nessie for 27 years said he was "totally excited" by the photo and thought it was the best one in years.

So far this year there have been four official sightings of the monster.

Earlier this month an unnamed tourist claimed to have filmed the monster poking out of the water of the loch
.




https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7069022/girl-pictures-loch-ness-monster-scotland/


To my surprise...

There is a Dolphin Centre at Inverness..

which I related to what Zorgon memntioned about them being popular at the Moray Firth

http://moraydolphins.co.uk/watch/inverness.html#.W36uidQwhkg

petrus4

Quote from: zorgon on August 23, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
You guys are way to easy :P

No.  If I was easy, I would have immediately believed that I was looking at an authentic photo of the Loch Ness Monster.  I was that easy as a teenager.  I've since grown up.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on August 23, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
Well yeah they do :P but then that water isn't Loch Ness :P its more than likely Moray Firth which is muddy and home to many seals. Loch Mess water is black from peat...   a well known phenomema :P
"More than likely"? Does that mean that you don't know where it is but are negating the possibility of being in Loch Ness?

QuoteYou guys are way to easy :P  and never do a simple "right click search google for image" search to find the source and the story
I usually do, but, in this case, it's irrelevant, because what you said was:

QuoteIf you told me that was a Python swimming in the Amazon I might believe you but there is no way that photos shows seals swimming in a line LOL

That sentence, as you can see, does not make any reference to the possible location of the scene in the photo, it's only about what the photo shows, so my answer was the same, only about what the photo shows.

If you still think that looks more like an in-existing south-American python than seals then I suppose that means your vision is as bad as your biology knowledge.  :P

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2018, 02:08:47 PM
"More than likely"? Does that mean that you don't know where it is but are negating the possibility of being in Loch Ness?

Well yes... it is most certainly NOT the Loch Ness critter and just some seals in the muddy waters of the Firth, where that behavior is common :D  Had ANYONE taken 10 seconds to right click on the image and do a google image search, the answer would have come up quickly?

It is obviously a seal head, though I suppose one could say "photoshop"  :P


petrus4

Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2018, 11:10:41 AM
Well yes... it is most certainly NOT the Loch Ness critter

At this point, I am leaning more in the direction that the Loch Ness Monster does not exist at all, to be honest.  I can not exhaustively prove that it does not, in a body of water as large as the loch; but I have never seen a single photo of Nessie that did not later turn out to be a hoax.  There have been numerous (and some of them about as thorough as possible, given the depth and the nature of the water in the loch) attempts to find the creature as well, and none of them have ever produced anything.

If Nessie is there, then she is exceptionally good at hiding.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman