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Mail containing Ricin apparently sent to Trump, Pentagon

Started by petrus4, October 03, 2018, 04:31:35 AM

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petrus4

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/02/politics/pentagon-ricin-mail/index.html

The above is a link from CNN, but I first discovered this via Voat.  Apparently President Trump and the Secretary of Defense have both been sent parcels or letters containing ricin, a highly toxic substance derived from castor oil seeds.

This is supposed to have occurred within the last 24 hours, although I am unable to find additional information.  Armap, your analytical skills would be appreciated, here.  I assume the story is genuine, but is there any way of discovering who might be responsible, or if the powder is confirmed to be ricin?

This is a disturbing story, because if it is true, we apparently have multiple assassination attempts being made against senior members of the American government, within a 24 hour period.  Although I am not someone who is entirely averse to the idea of revolution in the appropriate circumstances, I am unaware of any action that has been taken by Trump, which would remotely justify such a response.
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space otter

#1
hi pets r us

i don't think we need to worry last i heard  they had a lead on who it was

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/us/politics/ricin-pentagon-mail-poisoning.html
By Helene Cooper and Michael D. Shear
Oct. 2, 2018

QuoteWASHINGTON — Federal authorities said on Tuesday that they had intercepted multiple packages suspected of containing ricin, a lethal substance, addressed to President Trump and at least two top Pentagon officials.

In a statement on Tuesday night, the Secret Service said a "suspicious envelope" addressed to Mr. Trump was received at a facility outside the White House on Monday.

"All threats directed towards the president, or any Secret Service protectee, are treated seriously and fully investigated," the statement said.

The Secret Service did not specify that the envelope contained ricin, but said agents were "working jointly with our law enforcement partners to fully investigate this matter."

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/02/politics/pentagon-ricin-mail/index.html

Quote(CNN)An envelope addressed to President Donald Trump contained a substance suspected to be ricin and appeared to be connected to similar envelopes sent to the Pentagon, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Two pieces of mail delivered to the Pentagon mail facility on Monday have initially tested positive for ricin, according to a US defense official.
When asked about the letters sent to the Pentagon, a Secret Service spokesman told CNN that "the Secret Service can confirm receipt of a suspicious envelope addressed to the President on Oct. 1, 2018."
"The envelope was not received at the White House, nor did it ever enter the White House," the spokesman continued.
A source familiar with the ongoing joint federal investigation said that based on preliminary investigative activity, the White House and Pentagon letters were believed to be connected and the substance in question was a very crude castor bean concoction that authorities were not technically calling "ricin" until further testing.
Ricin is a highly toxic compound extracted from castor beans that has been used in terror plots. It can be used in powder, pellet, mist or acid form. If ingested, it causes nausea, vomiting and internal bleeding of the stomach and intestines, followed by failure of the liver, spleen and kidneys, and death by collapse of the circulatory system.
Another person familiar with the investigation into the letters said there was messy handwriting on the envelopes. At least one of the letters contained an index card with writing, "Jack the missile bean" and "Stock powder."
The two suspicious envelopes sent to the Pentagon were addressed to Secretary of Defense James Mattis and to chief of naval operations, Adm. John Richardson, the first official told CNN.
The mail facility is in a separate building on the grounds of the Pentagon, and the two pieces of mail that tested positive never entered the Pentagon building.
All US Postal Service mail received at the Pentagon mail screening facility on Monday is currently under quarantine and poses no threat to Pentagon personnel, according to Pentagon spokesperson Col. Rob Manning.
"On Monday, the Pentagon Force Protection Agency detected a suspicious substance during mail screening at the Pentagon's remote screening facility," Manning said in a statement.
"The envelopes were taken by the FBI this morning for further analysis," Manning added.
The FBI issued a statement saying it has taken possession of two suspicious envelopes screened at the Pentagon mail facility and they are undergoing more testing.
"On Tuesday, October, 2, 2018, in coordination with the Pentagon Force Protection Agency, FBI Special Agents took possession of two suspicious envelopes that had been screened at the Pentagon mail facility. Those envelopes are currently undergoing further testing. As this is ongoing, we will have no further comment."
The Secret Service spokesman said the agency was working with law enforcement partners to investigate the envelopes addressed to Trump and that all threats directed toward a Secret Service protectee "are treated seriously and fully investigated."
CNN's Josh Campbell, David Shortell, Zachary Cohen, Kate Sullivan and Betsy Klein contributed reporting.


https://nypost.com/2018/10/02/envelope-believed-to-contain-ricin-sent-to-trump/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ricin-detected-in-mail-sent-to-pentagon-facility-1538499381

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ricin-suspected-in-two-letters-sent-to-pentagon-suspicious-envelope-sent-to-white-house-2018-10-02

i don't think i would want to be a mail clerk here..




Defense Department personnel, wearing protective suits, screen mail as it arrives at a U.S. government facility near the Pentagon on Tuesday.



Quotea very crude castor bean concoction that authorities were not technically calling "ricin" until further testing.

i grow castor bean plants with my squash plants to keep them bug free...the seeds are beautiful..but just grinding them up does not make ricin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin



no two seeds are alike, they are a beautiful brown not this gray/black





yeah, i know to much information..sigh

space otter


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/packages-sent-to-pentagon-test-positive-for-ricin/ar-BBNS42e?li=BBnbfcL

QuoteInital analysis of two letters sent to the Pentagon tested positive for the deadly poison ricin on Tuesday. The Secret Service is investigating another suspicious envelope sent to President Trump on Monday. It was intercepted before reaching the White House.

Investigators are trying to figure out if one person or a group is behind the packages. Meanwhile the Pentagon's mail delivery center is under quarantine, reports CBS News' Jeff Pegues. One was addressed to Defense Secretary James Mattis and the other to Chief of Naval Operations John Richardson.

The letter addressed to Secretary Mattis, who is currently out of the country, also contained a five by eight card with handwriting on it, but the content has not been made public. Ricin can cause death in 36 to 72 hours and can only be manufactured deliberately.

Bioweapons experts caution field tests are inconclusive and a lab test has to be conducted to confirm that a substance is in fact ricin. Another letter was sent to Sen. Ted Cruz's campaign office in Houston Monday. That tested negative for any suspicious substance.

It is unclear whether the incidents are connected. So far no one has been reported harmed.

space otter



today's batch of items


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspected-ricin-laced-letters-did-not-contain-finished-form-poison-n916271

Suspected ricin-laced letters did not contain finished form of poison
Instead, the letters contained a primitive form of ricin, which is not very hazardous.
by Pete Williams / Oct.03.2018 / 1:43 PM EDT



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/10/03/report-former-sailor-suspected-in-ricin-letters/

Former sailor suspected in Pentagon poison attackBy: Tara Copp and Geoff Ziezulewicz    8 hours ago


https://www.rt.com/usa/440234-navy-sailor-pentagon-ricin/
Suspect arrested over ricin letters sent to Trump & Pentagon, 'ex-Navy sailor' reported culprit
Published time: 3 Oct, 2018 15:27
Edited time: 3 Oct, 2018 21:44

space otter


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/utah-vet-confessed-to-sending-ricin-envelopes-officials-say/ar-BBNVpNS?li=BBnbcA1

Associated Press
Utah vet confessed to sending ricin envelopes, officials say

QuoteSALT LAKE CITY — A Utah Navy veteran confessed to sending four envelopes containing the substance from which ricin is derived to President Donald Trump and members of his administration, authorities said in court documents.

William Clyde Allen III, 39, made the confession while speaking with investigators after his arrest at his house in the small city of Logan, north of Salt Lake City, according to documents filed Wednesday night in a Utah court. He told them he had purchased castor beans and sent the letters that had the beans in them.

The documents filed to justify Allen's arrest did not state a motive. He was being held on a $25,000 cash-only bond.

State investigators working with the FBI said the envelopes with ground castor beans
(that is NOT ricin but just ground up seeds)
were mailed last week to the president, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and the Navy's top officer, Adm. John Richardson.

Authorities have said the letters were intercepted and no one was injured. Castor beans can cause injury if swallowed, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says

Investigators say all four letters tested positive for ricin.

No attorney has been listed for Allen. A federal complaint is expected to be filed Friday.

Allen served in the Navy from 1998 to 2002, according to Navy records. He has a criminal record in Utah including child abuse and attempted aggravated assault.

Last year, he sent a vague email threat to the Air Force, said Logan police Capt. Tyson Budge, though military officials did not believe he was capable of carrying it out.

Another letter sent to Utah Gov. Gary Herbert in July blamed him for health problems Allen's wife was suffering, Budge said

The Seeker

This individual sounds like his cheese is not sitting squarely on his cracker  8) criminal record for child abuse and attempted aggravated assault? not good at all; vague threats against the air force, plus blames the governor of Utah for his wifes' health problems? So now he mails ground castor beans to the prez, secretary of defense, fbi chief, and head of the JCS?

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petrus4

Quote from: The Seeker on October 05, 2018, 03:47:45 AM
This individual sounds like his cheese is not sitting squarely on his cracker

Neither did Lee Harvey Oswald, as you will recall.  I'm not saying this person genuinely isn't the guilty party; but the Men in Black are historically known to be rather good at producing Manchurian Candidates.
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Titan

It must be immensely amusing for those in their towers of power to see zombified plebes so affected by propaganda that they make pathetic attempts at vigilantism.
Poor pathetic fool should be more worried about the people actually influencing with his life, starting with himself.