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A modest Proposal: Oumuamua is an Asbestos Body

Started by Canine, February 05, 2019, 04:08:54 PM

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WhatTheHey

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1. "Why?" Apparently this object seem to show that its path has been altered... Look into what is now being thought about gravity and magnetism.

2. "Magnetism is a week force when compared with gravity." Again look into what is believed now about gravity/magnetism.  Also gravity/magnetism are relative in

strength with relation to size and composition for most objects in space.

3. "That would create changes in the other objects' orbits, the influence of a strong gravity is easy to detect,".....Yes all bodies in space interact in accordance with there

comparative G/M fields. (G/M = Gravity/magnet).  As my statement says "A small gravitational object with an extremely high gravity of its own" This refers

to the relationship of field strength to size. This is why the small objects path could be changed and its influence on other fields like a planet be N/A.

4. "No, regardless of how the gravity field is distributed, all objects have a fixed centre of gravity, unless they are changing their mass."

  True, but that's not what I was saying. The mass does not change. The density within the body is not uniform, this causes variations in internal integrity and during

encounters leads to as I said, breakup.  So the mass does not change, yet the structural integrity is not able to withstand much external force without disruption.

Centre's of gravity are always present but when a portion of an object is of higher density surrounded by lesser density, and its acted upon by external force G/M if the

construction (integrity) is not sufficient it fails. This can cause its self to fly apart, even parts going away from another gravity field if the breakup is violent enough.

I could have said the gravity fields associated within the denser parts of the body.  Causing a breakup is what I was referring to.  If your still having a problem

understanding look into how the Shoemaker-levy9 comet broke up.  All bodies in space have an affect on all other bodies regardless of size or strength and in some way

effect there paths.  From large and apparent ways to nearly nonexistent ones.
 

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ArMaP

Quote from: WhatTheHey on February 07, 2019, 03:11:22 AM
Look into what is now being thought about gravity and magnetism.
OK, I based my answer on what I learned about it, not on what is now "thought" about it (by whom?).

QuoteThis is why the small objects path could be changed and its influence on other fields like a planet be N/A.
I agree, but I don't know if it would be N/A or not.

QuoteThe mass does not change. The density within the body is not uniform, this causes variations in internal integrity and during encounters leads to as I said, breakup.  So the mass does not change, yet the structural integrity is not able to withstand much external force without disruption.
I understand it now, breaking up turns it into a group of smaller objects, each one with less mass, but the whole group still has the same mass and only a slight change in size.

WhatTheHey

    :) Its good to see you at work again ArMap. (Meaning here.)........Below is one nicely stated theory I feel confident in.  It reflex the idea well.  There are others of

higher caliber, but they can be very hard to follow for most.  Including myself.  ::)    Of course we may ALL be wrong!  Aint it a bitch!  LOL  ;)

                          https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/144541/gravity-and-magnetism-one-and-the-same

  This is good OLD PEGASUS! lol so cool....... 8)
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Canine

Exfoliated Asbestos is probably responsible for some of the Mars UFOs captured by the rover/lander cameras.

I'm not denying the other prosaic explanations for them, I'm just saying that this is something to consider.


Canine

In the asbestos model, gravitational/other stresses may have caused the surface area to increase as a result of a series of small partial local material failures within the object, thus also causing the increase in speed and trajectory change.

This deformation may or may not be elastic but it is not likely to be. The change in object dimensions is not great enough to be detected in instrumentation but would be in the speed/trajectory of the object.

ArMaP

Quote from: Canine on May 02, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
In the asbestos model, gravitational/other stresses may have caused the surface area to increase as a result of a series of small partial local material failures within the object, thus also causing the increase in speed and trajectory change.
How?

WhatTheHey

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Quote from: Canine on May 02, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
In the asbestos model, gravitational/other stresses may have caused the surface area to increase as a result of a series of small partial local material failures within the object, thus also causing the increase in speed and trajectory change.

This deformation may or may not be elastic but it is not likely to be. The change in object dimensions is not great enough to be detected in instrumentation but would be in the speed/trajectory of the object.

:)   Hello, I would just like to point out that the shape of an object traveling through space has no affect on its speed or trajectory. There is no "friction" or resistance in space.  That's why we have such funky looking (Absolutely not streamline.) satellites and alike. Their shape wont make a difference in space and they don't slow down till they hit the atmosphere.  For an object to increase speed or change direction from internal changes as you specify those changes would have to expel energy away from the object in some manner. Like throwing off pieces or trusting in some way.  And we would probably see it.
   Gravity or another external force is required to cause the changes you mentioned unless it has a gravity/tractor beam on board.   8)
   As for a solar sail, the area even for a light weight object that needs to be covered to gather enough solar wind to cause detectable acceleration/directional change is very large.  This would most likely make it highly visible and we would see it if we could see the object at all.   8)
   I also wanted to let ArMap know that when he said .....
Quote from: ArMaP on February 07, 2019, 01:53:32 PM
I understand it now, breaking up turns it into a group of smaller objects, each one with less mass, but the whole group still has the same mass and only a slight change in size.
Shoemaker Levi comet was spread out over many many miles after its breakup, witch was a good thing too.  It enabled us to see the impacts clearly as the ejections surged up into the atmosphere as the planet rotated.   So it was spread out quite a lot in comparison to its previous size.  ;)
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WhatTheHey

 ;D  I had to laugh when I saw my typo...... ;D  lol    which witch is which.....lol   Its should have been which .... not the broom flying kind   ;D LOL Sorry about my typo's I'm sure there are many. I try to type well and as fast as I can, but with one good hand it takes me a while and I do make typo's.  Usually they are easily overlooked anyway because they are the word spelling switch type that sound the same like this one.  This was a funny one, I thought so anyway.......lol

   We all do typo's, so from all us typo doers a BIG THANKS FOUR KNOT PICKING NITS....... lol ;)  Sometimes it happens when I use my talk and type program and I don't catch the change....lol  Thats why I don't use it all the time, it takes just about as long....  ;D  lol

   Thanks :)
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