A question for all...

[The Seeker]

Here recently, in the last 6 months or so, we have been deluged with many assorted space/ ufo related programs, ranging from "The truth about the moon landings", Tom Delonghe and Luis Elizondo with their show about the Nimitz "tic tac" films, which just ended its season run, now a new one called "contact" with 3 ex-cia investigators researching the same footage, talking to the same witnesses...

I see all this as being a distraction to keep our attention drawn away from some other issue, but what?

Waiting on your thoughts and comments

Seeker

[ArMaP]

To me, the most likely reasons for this new trend are distraction and profit, and they are not mutually exclusive.

One consequence of, for example, the "Tic Tac" UFO is that now all new sightings are called "Tic Tacs", so any sighting of a different shape may go unnoticed.

[The Seeker]

To me, the most likely reasons for this new trend are distraction and profit, and they are not mutually exclusive.

Profit is always a motivating factor in most things, altho it is reported that TTSA is 37 mil in debt (so far) it does make me wonder just how much those 6(?) episodes on the history channel cost to produce and how much revenue they brought in...

One consequence of, for example, the "Tic Tac" UFO is that now all new sightings are called "Tic Tacs", so any sighting of a different shape may go unnoticed.

Sigh...
This is true, ArMaP, simply because people are not going to take the extra seconds to carefully look at anything, it's too easy to say "OH, it's one of them tic-tac looking thingys..." instead of actually giving a decent description of what they saw or filmed

[The Seeker]

Current programs being run about space/ufo's/strange occurrences:

https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation
Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation

On the Travel Channel:

UFO'S: The lost Evidence

Alien Highway

On the Science Channel:

The Truth behind the Moon landiings

Contact(another series about the Nimitz tic tac)

NASA's Unexplained Files

seems they all want to push the agenda

[micjer]

Does seem odd.

10 years ago you only saw this kind of things on the web and trolls like James Oberg spent their time debunking anything that was controversial.

https://www.sciencealert.com/ufo-nasa-iss-sighting-debunked-fireballs-video-james-oberg-not-aliens

[ArMaP]

I suppose they reached the conclusion that believers are a better cash-cow than sceptics.

[The Seeker]

Does seem odd.

10 years ago you only saw this kind of things on the web and trolls like James Oberg spent their time debunking anything that was controversial.

https://www.sciencealert.com/ufo-nasa-iss-sighting-debunked-fireballs-video-james-oberg-not-aliens

Yep  Jimmy Oberg, Joe Nickel, James McGaha, all bound and determined to debunk and crucify anyone or anything that doesn't fit neatly in their neat little box of prescribed happenings; healthy inquiry and sensible skepticism is one thing, but belligerent and totally anal debunking is ridiculous 

Also I still wonder about then President-elect Trump's blurb about "high flying assets"...

Seeker

[The Seeker]

I suppose they reached the conclusion that believers are a better cash-cow than sceptics.

That is one of the side effects of "Ufo Disease" ,ArMaP; Steven Greer and quite a few others figured that one out years ago, unfortunately, but there will always be a percentage of people that will blindly and totally believe anything shoved their way...

[micjer]

Here is an idea that Dolores Cannon would call "mind candy".

What if we have entered a New Earth that she predicted......

It would help explain the glitches in the Matrix.....
It would help explain the above question about ufo's being discussed openly.....
It would help explain the new transparency in politics...
Many other things..

Have you noticed more and more articles being written about nuclear fusion lately also.  I truly believe that is the future energy source once it gets harnessed.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/worlds-largest-nuclear-fusion-experiment-clears-milestone/

[ArMaP]

It would help explain the new transparency in politics...

What new transparency?

Have you noticed more and more articles being written about nuclear fusion lately also.  I truly believe that is the future energy source once it gets harnessed.

No.

[The Seeker]

Here is an idea that Dolores Cannon would call "mind candy".

What if we have entered a New Earth that she predicted......

It is indeed food for thought, Mic, as discussed in the timelines thread...

It would help explain the glitches in the Matrix.....
It would help explain the above question about ufo's being discussed openly.....
It would help explain the new transparency in politics...
Many other things..

From my point of view, there are many differences, some subtle, some blatant, and I am not alone in noticing these changes in my local area; perhaps Cannon was on to something...

Have you noticed more and more articles being written about nuclear fusion lately also.  I truly believe that is the future energy source once it gets harnessed.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/worlds-largest-nuclear-fusion-experiment-clears-milestone/

There does seem to be a lot more out there now in the public eye beyond the occasional mention about fusion research with the tokamak; don't be surprised if more info about working fusion reactors comes to light in the days ahead...

it wouldn't surprise me 

Seeker

[karl 12]

Good question mate and there definitely seems to be an concerted agenda in play (whether it's active misdirection, plausible deniability or just saturation of search engine results) - I did see this vid a few weeks ago and call me cynical but I do hope the endgame to all this engineered hype isn't just going to be 'hypersonic tech',

That's what Kaku seems to be selling..




If the US Navy wants to release anything about the UFO/USO subject then maybe they should start here or here .

healthy inquiry and sensible skepticism is one thing, but belligerent and totally anal debunking is ridiculous 

Bravo!

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

My personal belief is that these craft are being seen ONLY because 'THEY' want them to be seen.
Who are 'THEY'? Well it certainly isn't the Navy or any other 'official' government agency.
Although the Navy has it's special place in all this as they govern what goes on.
The other agencies are just for show in this en devour of UFO's.

Sgt. you're not talking about some other worldly entities?
No not necessarily just them, they have to have a funnel for all these advancements to be eventually shown (or come to light).
It's the behind the scenes outfits that work to channel all this to the public, at their specific speed, i.e. when they think we're ready for it.
Regardless of who's in power or what agency is the flavor of the day.

There was a movie not too long ago, called 'Forgotten'.
Check that out and believe that we let them do what they want, no matter how terrible it might be and help them,because.....'What choice do we have'?

Anyway that's my opinion.

Rock 
 

[micjer]

I don't want to derail the thread, but when you google nuclear fusion these come up all in the last few days.

Nuclear Fusion Could Be A Reality By 2025

Jul 28, 2019, 4:00 PM CDT

https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/Nuclear-Fusion-Could-Be-A-Reality-By-2025.html

Lockheed Martin Doubles Down on Cold Fusion

July 29, 2019

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lockheed-martin-doubles-down-cold-120300203.html


The Great, Maddening Promise of Fusion Energy

July 29, 2019,

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-29/startups-aim-to-spark-progress-on-fusion-energy




Published on 6 Jun 2019
Nuclear Fusion is Finally Here

[space otter]

well whatever the answer is i got a chuckle cause in our little local paper today is an article about so many ufo reports from  here....
i know the papers are hurting and having less and less pages because most folks are on line.. but still i think this represents a new way to handle it all..
make so many reports that it is common place and truly less remarkable
comes under my heading of hidden in plain site
but what do i know..

https://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/out-of-this-world-ufo-sightings-frequently-reported-across-western-pennsylvania-u-s/

WESTMORELAND
Out of this world: UFO sightings frequently reported across Western Pennsylvania, U.S.
Stephen Huba
STEPHEN HUBA   | Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:01 a.m.

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While the Kecksburg UFO sighting has become a quaint part of local lore, more recent reports of unexplained aerial phenomena are getting serious attention from Congress, the U.S. military and longtime UFO watchers.

"It's not going away," said retired journalist Bob Gatty. "Whether you believe or don't believe in this stuff, the fact remains there is a lot happening for some reason."

Gatty, who originally reported on the Kecksburg incident for the Tribune-Review in 1965, recently noted on his blog NotFakeNews.biz that the Navy has issued new guidelines to fighter pilots regarding UFO sightings, and members of Congress are seeking more frequent briefings on the subject.

"Congress apparently is taking this stuff — at least the Navy reports — seriously," said Gatty, 76, a former Sykesville, Jefferson County, resident who lives in Myrtle Beach, S.C.

Meanwhile, longtime local UFO researcher Stan Gordon said there has been a "surge" in sightings of unexplained phenomena in Western Pennsylvania — whether extraterrestrial or not.

"We keep getting reports of very strange things that people see around here," said Gordon, 69, of Greensburg. "We've had a surge of UFO and Bigfoot activity in the area in the last couple of weeks. Many of these sightings are very detailed reports."

While sightings usually spike in the spring and summer, when people are outside more, reports in 2018 and 2019 have been more consistently year-round, he said. Sightings are mostly of unexplained things in the sky or of earthbound cryptids — animals such as Bigfoot, whose existence is unsubstantiated.

Gordon has spent the past 54 years investigating the Kecksburg incident, when on Dec. 9, 1965, people across six states and Canada reported seeing a fireball streak across the sky before crashing into a wooded area in Mt. Pleasant Township.

Though other sightings don't get the attention of Kecksburg, Gordon says they still persist — and they get documented on his website StanGordon.info. He first set up a hotline to report sightings in Pennsylvania in 1969.

"In all the years I've done this, I've never seen (a UFO or Bigfoot) myself, but I've interviewed thousands of witnesses," he said. "Every year ... we're getting very detailed reports from credible people that you cannot easily dismiss."

Upon investigation, many "sightings" end up having either natural or man-made causes — a bear or a large, shaggy dog or a hunter wearing camouflage, he said. Most end up on the growing repository of unexplained phenomena, with no conclusive explanation.

Greensburg: July 5

Gordon's website documents mostly Pennsylvania sightings — the most recent one in June near the Youngstown side of Chestnut Ridge. The National UFO Reporting Center in Harrington, Wash., documents sightings from across the United States, Canada, the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

The center's website, NUFORC.org, ranks Pennsylvania seventh in total UFO sightings (3,937 reported, dating to 1947) and notes that sightings so far this year (84) nearly equal the total number for 2018. Among the most recent was an anonymous report from Greensburg.

The report was of unidentifiable lights moving slowly, perfectly spaced apart, and of a red/orange round object or cylinder moving east and west, according to NUFORC. The sighting around 10 p.m. July 5 lasted six minutes.

Other recent sightings in the region reported to NUFORC include:

• July 4 — An orange-red sphere spotted around 10 p.m. in both Erie and Cecil, Washington County.

• June 28 — A person reported seeing a shiny silver disc or saucer overhead in Mt. Lebanon at 8:35 p.m. After about 15 minutes, it disappeared.

• June 23 — An Elizabeth resident reported seeing five amber-colored, circular shapes move in all directions in the sky and then form an arrowhead shape before disappearing after about 4 minutes.

Peter Davenport, NUFORC director, has been collecting such data for 25 years.

"All you need is one good report to tell you what's going on," he said, noting that credible reports in the United States date to at least the 1940s and '50s.

In 2004, Davenport presented a paper to the Mutual UFO Network on the use of "passive radar" for detecting UFOs in the near-earth environment. "If that signal were to strike an anomalous target ... it would be reflected back down to ground level. We can use that for detecting anomalous targets," he said.

Davenport said his proposal reached the Central Intelligence Agency and garnered a complimentary response from a CIA agent. He also has met with FBI agents, who "were obviously very interested in some of the data" on the NUFORC website.

Notwithstanding the wealth of credible reports, Davenport said solving the mystery of UFOs will require "a government that still serves the people. The government has known about the UFO phenomenon for a long time."

Military attention

Unverified sightings from civilians are one thing, but sightings by Navy fighter pilots have reached the highest echelons of the U.S. government, according to To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science, or TTSA, a public benefit corporation that seeks to advance public understanding and government research of unexplained aerial phenomena.

Former Pentagon intelligence official Christopher Mellon, an adviser to TTSA, wrote in the Washington Post in 2018 that the existence of UFOs is no longer in question. What is lacking is a commitment from the Defense Department to investigate the growing body of evidence from the military, he said.

"There is no Pentagon process for synthesizing all the observations the military is making," wrote Mellon, a member of Western Pennsylvania's prominent Mellon family and a former Ligonier resident. "It is time to set aside taboos regarding 'UFOs' and instead listen to our pilots and radar operators."

He could not be reached for comment.

Mellon noted that one declassified video from 2015 showed two F-18 fighter pilots using an infrared sensor to engage an object that was flying at a low altitude at a high rate of speed off the East Coast but with no discernible means of propulsion.

In the video, posted on the TTSA website, the pilots react with excitement when they finally "lock on" to the object:

"Whoa! Got it!"

[Laughter] "Woo hoo!"

"What the (expletive) is that thing?!"

"Did you box a moving target?"

"No, it's in autotrack."

"Oh, OK."

"Oh my gosh, dude."

"Wow! What is that, man?"

"Look at that flying!"

Stephen Huba is a Tribune-Review staff writer. You can contact Stephen at 724-850-1280, shuba@tribweb.com or via Twitter .


DETAILS
2019 Kecksburg UFO Festival
When: noon-11 p.m. Saturday; noon-5 p.m. Sunday
Admission: Free, donation requested for the UFO conference at 1 p.m. Sunday
Where: Kecksburg Volunteer Fire Department grounds and social hall, 5128 Water St., Mt. Pleasant Township
Details:  or kecksburgvfd.com

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https://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/kecksburg-ufo-festival-celebrates-something-that-fell-from-the-sky-in-1965/


WESTMORELAND
Kecksburg UFO Festival celebrates ... something ... that fell from the sky in 1965
Stephen Huba
STEPHEN HUBA   | Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:01 p.m.

vid at link

A smalltown festival devoted to paranormal phenomena is not going to hold too many surprises, given the subject matter.

So to see a young man striding with a sense of purpose in full Army regalia at the 2019 Kecksburg UFO Festival on Saturday — well, it didn't seem all that unusual, even with temperatures in the high 80s.

Sabastian Synuria, 18, of Brownsville, who plays a soldier in the upcoming film "Kecksburg," wore a uniform and helmet as he staffed the independent film's booth at the Kecksburg UFO Festival.

Synuria, who also was a grip for "Kecksburg," said he found out about the movie while playing an extra in the 2015 horror movie "Gore Orphanage," which was directed by the wife of "Kecksburg" director Cody Knotts.

"I signed up for one of his acting classes, and that's how I got involved," Synuria said.

And watching people get their picture taken next to a large, acorn-shaped object, or 7-foot statues of Bigfoot — again, perfectly normal.

Karen Beyrand, 67, of Yukon, who attended the festival with her husband, Frank, 75, said she's been interested in the possibility of alien life since she was a young girl.

"I'm familiar with the (Kecksburg) incident. I've read up on it, and I remember something happening in 1965," she said. "I believe something did happen here. Whether it was Russian or something from outer space, I don't know."

The festival, now in its 14th year, celebrates a UFO crash that is said to have taken place in a wooded area near the Mt. Pleasant Township community of Kecksburg on Dec. 9, 1965.

A fireball was seen streaking across seven northeastern states and Canada the afternoon of Dec. 9, according to Tribune-Review reports from the next day.

Dec. 10, 1965.

Those living nearby said that they felt vibrations, followed by "a thump" around the time the object is said to have crashed.

One of the primary witnesses was an 8-year-old boy who said he saw what looked like "a flaming star" fall into the woods.

Bob Gatty was a young reporter working at the Tribune-Review at the time. He had just finished covering a school board meeting when the night editor came over, put his arm around his shoulder and said, "Bob, I've got the story of the century for you."

Gatty, 76, who now lives in Myrtle Beach, S.C., thought his editor was sending him on a "snipe hunt." Nonetheless, he obediently drove down to Kecksburg, where he encountered local authorities and military personnel.

"They were blocking people's access into this field," he said. "There were all these people milling around, watching to see what was going on. I got out of my car and walked over to a guy and said, 'Hey, what's going on.' And he said, 'Nothing. ... There's nothing down there.' "

The man told him, "You can't go down there. You'll be arrested."

Then Gatty started interviewing witnesses.

"Some said they saw this object come down, and it seemed like it was guided and went down through this tree and landed in the field," he said. "Later there were reports that a flatbed truck with some kind of big object covered with a tarp was brought out of there."

Gatty left the Tribune-Review a few weeks later to continue his journalism career in Harrisburg and elsewhere. But no matter how hard he tried, that night in Kecksburg stayed with him.

"This thing has followed me my entire life," he said. "I've covered a lot of big stuff ... and what is it that's followed me all these years? It's the Kecksburg UFO."

The area was investigated by state and federal authorities. State police told the Tribune-Review Dec. 10, 1965, that they found "absolutely nothing whatsoever and no marks to indicate anything" after searching the area with equipment to detect radiation.

Astronomers said the large fireball was likely a Geminid meteor from the constellation Gemini.

The Kecksburg UFO Festival, an annual fundraiser for the Kecksburg Volunteer Fire Department, concludes on Sunday. A UFO conference starts at 1 p.m. in the EMS building.

Stephen Huba is a Tribune-Review staff writer. You can contact Stephen at, shuba@tribweb.com or via Twitter .



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