Bob Lazar new book ??

[bigpappy51]

Bob Lazar has a new book out Title is  Dreamland - An autobiography by Bob Lazar Several ways to buy the book A regular paperback copy is 20 bucks unsigned . Bob Lazar signs the book for $40.00 seems like alot of money to me to sign a paperback book here's the link . https://interstellarbooks.com/products/dream-land-an-autobiography-by-bob-lazar?

Bob Lazars home in Michigan is for ale for $300,000 apparently he has purchased a very nice spread in Oregon from what my sources told me.
Heres his home in Laingsburg Michigan for sale below.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/9509-Chadwick-Rd_Laingsburg_MI_48848_M40868-56112?

People still think Bob didn't make any money from the movie ?? Come on people dont be made fools of time to cash in I have some details but they are not totally confirmed yet when it comes to Netflix and the book deal which I believe Tome DeLonge admitted to giving Bob a payment of $250.000 just to do the book the rights to do the book..

Curious to see what people think I know for a fact he moves next week and its like Top Secret people are going to find out no matter hat his business is mail order its not what its been made out to be that it this massive Govt Contracting business if that was the case he wouldn't be in such a small place with a few employees. he does have a lock on the type of business he has for some reason he has no competition which is rather strange if you ask me..  Maybe has to do with his customers guaranteed orders that may not even be used possibly ?? I wouldn't know.

[hoss58]

John Lear says that Bob did not write the book and he gives his critique of the book on his facebook page . Bob has been John's close friend for 30 years now and no one knows the Bob Lazar story better than John.

"Dreamland: the Fake Auto Biography of Bob Lazar"

One yellow highlighter completely used up by page 61.

"Whoever wrote this mess gathered some of Bob's stories and tried to weave them in a book and call it an autobiography.

Unfortunately for this moron he didn't use any common sense or additional research.

For instance page 30 the author has Bob describing project Excalibur just before he meets Dr.Teller and Los Alamos. Bob didn't even know about Excalibur until the fall of 1988. He has it as a Star Wars project. It was not. It had nothing to do with space."




I will post the whole critique once I ask John if it is ok to do so.

[hoss58]

Dreamland: the Fake Auto Biography of Bob Lazar

One yellow highlighter completely used up by page 61.

Whoever wrote this mess gathered some of Bob's stories and tried to weave them in a book and call in an autobiography.

Unfortunately for this moron he didn't use any common sense or additional research.

For instance page 30 the author has Bob describing project Excalibur just before he meets Dr.Teller and Los Alamos. Bob didn't even know about Excalibur until the fall of 1988. He has it as a Star Wars project. It was not. It had nothing to do with space.

In the first meeting (page 31) with Dr. Teller he has Dr. Teller saying, "Your the man with the jet car." Anybody who has ever heard Bob tell that story knows that it was Bob who spoke first and said, "Dr. Teller I am the guy you are reading about."

On page 33 he is describing his first trip to S-4 and describes it:

"As we moved left around the hill, it was as if someone had taken a giant shovel and squared the face of the hill at 90 degrees so the ground. To one side of that perpendicular rise stood a small entryway."

Anybody who has looked at the drawings on the web Bob supervised knows that the mountainside hangar doors were angled at 60 degrees. And he completely leaves out where Bob walks by the disc and puts his hand on the surface and is reprimanded.

On page 37 where Bob is describing meeting the 'young woman' (nurse) at S-4. The author has her making conversation with Bob and she says, "I'm heading out to Death Valley this weekend with my boyfriend. I'm hoping the desert bloom will be beautiful."

'Desert bloom' in Death Valley during the first few days of December? The author is just plain nuts.

Lower on page 37 he describes the allergen test on the bottom of his arm which is correct. Then he says (page 39, after the allergen test) "I took the cup (she gave me) and brought it toward my mouth. I immediately thought of the household cleaner Pine Sol. I drank it down and felt my eyes tear up briefly."

Pure fabrication. Bob didn't drink the 'pine smelling fluid' until he was undergoing his 'read in' (briefing) for his clearance attended by the security clearance 'briefer', a nurse, a soldier with an M-16 and a gray behind a sheet. Immediately after he drank the fluid (he was laying down) he felt like he was deep in a well and barely hanging to the sides at the top with his fingertips. He felt like he was going to fall.

Everybody has heard that story except, apparently, the author of the fake autobiography.

On page 56 of the fake autobiography he tells about Barry (they spell his last name as Castillo. I think that is incorrect) throwing the golf ball at the reactor and saying "Anti-gravity. Barry said. Can you believe it?" This is really stupid. Nobody at S-4 ever used the term "anti-gravity" to describe the force repelling the golf ball. It was 'field propulsion'.

I am on page 61 and reading this book in painful with its web of contradictions and inaccuracies.

But I will press on and report. John Lear November 5, 2019.

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Dreamland Critique (continued)

Well, I read up to page 119.

The fake Bob Lazar has me meeting him after he goes to work at S-4.

Nice try but I was the one that convinced Bob there might be something to the 'saucer' rumors at Groom Lake and gave him three secrets to check out:
The first was the existence of Excalibur (the book has him already knowing about Excalibur when he met Dr. Teller at LANL. Not true.
YY-2 facility (where they kept the alien bodies at LANL.) Bobs source confirmed there was indeed a secret 'mail stop' designated as YY-2, but couldn't find out anything about it.
The third, I can't remember.

Bob wrote the project outline of Excalibur and gave it to me to distribute. One of the persons I gave it to was Bill Cooper. A few days after I gave it to him, he and I did an interview for a TV news show 'PM Magazine' from Salt Lake City. During the interview Bill told the host that he read that exact same Excalibur document while in the Navy at Pearl Harbor 20 years prior.

After the cameras were shut down I took Bill to my den and tore into him, "Bill, what in the heck are you saying you read the Excalibur document in the Navy? Bob wrote that 6 weeks ago here in Vegas." Bill would not budge from his claim he saw it in the Navy.

Bill said the same thing about the O.H. Krill document written by John Grace a year prior as a statement of where we thought 'Ufology' stood. John asked me for a name for the document and I gave him CRLLL which was allegedly the name of the ET who contacted the Pentagon in the late 1950's or early 1960's. John changed it to KRILL and added the initials O.H. which had no specific meaning.

Bill not only said he read the Krill document in the Navy but said that O.H. stood for Original Hostage.

Whatever happened, Excalibur, YY-2 and another secret had convinced Bob to try and get a job at Area 51. I was there when he called Dr. Teller. Dr. Teller asked Bob where he wanted to work, Lawrence Livermore or there in Nevada? Bob told him, "I want to work at Area 51". Dr. Teller told Bob that he would see what he could do. A few days later Bob gpot a call asking him to com e down to EG&G for an interview. That was in October 1988. 'Dreamland' has Bob meeting me in the first quarter of 1989 after he had worked at S-4 for a couple of months. Not true.

On page 88, fake Bob misspells Groom Lake spelling it Groome.

On the same page the fake Bob Lazar describes the first time he saw inside the hangars: "Dennis indicated that I should go inside through the large open door and into the bay. Inside sat a cylindrical craft, typical of the 'flying saucers' that I'd seen depicted in blurry photos and in TV shows and the movies".

This is stupid on several levels. First of all Bob never ever described a flying saucer as other than a 'disc'. He never called it a 'flying saucer' and never described it as 'cylindrical craft' simply because it was not a cylindrical craft. And Bob never compared it to blurry photos. In fact Bob said it was identical to a clear, high resolution photo of a disc in the Billy Meier photo book I showed him in my den. Of the many, high res, color photos in the book, Bob said the one photo was identical to the craft he saw in the hangar at S-4, and the one he named the 'Sports Model'. The U.S. Government had been pouring million of dollars into discrediting Billy Meiers. Bob could not have written this book and if interviewed would have said exactly what I just wrote. (I was kicked off ATS for saying that the Billy Meiers story was true. ATS management had made an agreement for a major loan, by promising to help discredit the Billy Meier story.
"Cylindrical craft" is just plain stupid.

On page 111 the fake Bob writes about me "..and his ability to recall information and to even reproduce on paper a diagram of the hydraulic system that powered the landing gear of an L1011 aircraft-which I once asked him to do- was nothing short of remarkable." I don't know where this fake information came from but the real incident described here happened in 1991 long after Bob had left S-4. I don't remember the reason but Bob asked about the electrical system of the DC-8 that I was flying for American International Airways. I said wait a minute, grabbed a piece of paper and drew the schematic of the entire DC-8 electrical system from the generators powered by the engines to the AC and DC buses and to each electrical system. It took me about 5 minutes. I showed it to Bob and after a minute he said 'whats this' and pointed to a symbol. I knew it to be a one way blocking diode but for some reason I said "I don't know". When Bob said 'one way blocking diode I felt really bad because I had missed a chance to show Bob I knew something about electrical diagrams. I knew that it was a one way blocking diode but for some reason I didn't or couldn't say it to Bob. This incident is such a minor one in the context of the universe but it still bothers me and every once in a while I text Bob, "one way blocking diode" as if he gave a s***.

Bob had a truly amazing ability to talk to people. He would instantly determine how much they knew and then talk to them on that level. He never 'talked down' to anybody unless they tried to bs him. If someone tried to bs Bob, God help them. Bob would never tell anybody they were 'friggin' idiots'. He would carefully, but always let them find that out for themselves. And he did it in such a graceful way that anybody attendant to that conversation would have to burst out laughing. Anybody who met Bob would always leave believing that he was Bobs best friend and truly believe it.

124 pages to go and I am dreading it. John Lear November 8, 2019

[bigpappy51]

Hey Hoss58 been a very long time I remember you from OMF.

Yes I am very aware of what John Lear has written on FB about the book. We have to wait to see what the publisher says. George Knapp writes a 17 page Forward of the book that's a "Fake". The situation is very strange as to whether Lazar had something to do with this or not we know he had to have been a part of the book.

Bob told John Lear he didn't know anything about the book yet they had signed copies by Bob Lazar for $40.00 USD and the book was only $20.00 for a regular copy on the October 14th. Bobs friend Mario Santa Cruz had told a British guy named Si a month before the book came out that Bobs book was coming out you can read that right on John Lears FB page I have. I have also investigated dates he knew the book was coming out there's not a doubt I can prove it just buy Bobs instagram Bob shows the box of books he got on October 8th how long did Bob have them ? I have to figure out the way to post images on here thru the site if someone can help me out with that ?? ArMap ??

PhotoBucket Images are no longer any good they are blurred out I know there's a way to use the site for images I think ArMap had explained to me around the time Ron passed and I didnt make a post for a while after Ron passed. I don't believe this whole story that someone could just construct an entire book about Bob Lazar without him knowing. Bob has a box of the books and the images are on his instagram which were weeks prior to the book being released he never said anything about not knowing that day. The book is filled with so many errors that just maybe hes trying to cover his own but I don't know yet.

In order for the publisher to have signed copies ready to ship on October 14th Bob had to have signed them somewhere at some point . Did he sign them at home and mail them back ? I say that's unlikely he probably had to sign at least a thousand books when did he sign those books ? We do know that Tom DeLonge on the Joe Rogan show bragged how he bought the rights to Bobs Book  on October 26t 2017 so when was the book written Tom acts as if it was already done back then listen to what Tom has to say below. There has been an amount of monet DeLonge claimed he paid Lazar but I am not going to post that here there is some kind of financial agreement.

This video link is set to start at exactly 44 minutes. Tom DeLonge doesn't know that Lazar story very well as he makes a ton of mistakes here. Tom states "Im putting out his autobiography you should read the book" Remember this was over 2 years ago and he acts as iof the book was already done we will have to wait to see what is said its very strange I told John Lear he was not going to like the book I know this story well enough to know the mistakes and there's a great deal of them.

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HeyBig Pappy , thanks for remembering me from OMF.That was a good forum while it lasted . John was actively posting on there, lots of good info. John posted a lot of good stuff about the moon on that forum. Yes , there is something fishy about that Bob Lazar book . John is adamant that Bob didn't write it , I figure John should know because the story all starts with John . I hope the post with John's critique helps. I can relay what is said in this thread to John and see what he says .

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John Lear

November 16

This morning I emailed Gufon (Gene Huff) and said a few people on my FB page were posting that Bob was making a fortune on the Dreamland book. This is his response. (my nickname is 'Condor').

Condor,

They're dreaming. First, you should explain that Bob Lazar might be the source of the info in that book but he is not the author. This is just another example of Tom DeLonge trying to further insert himself into ufology by hiring a writer to write a book about a person or a subject without knowing a thing about either. So they are lying by marketing this thing as a book by Bob Lazar as he could have cared less if they wrote this book. He just agreed to do it quite a while ago when there wasn't much going on.

Now, back when the writer was interviewing Bob about this thing, Bob asked me to join him with on a telephone conference call on a Sunday evening. They were expecting me to provide info from Bob's daily wall calendar from back in 89-90 but I couldn't find it that particular night. The call wasn't very fruitful so the guy set up a call the next Sunday and Bob and I were on the line waiting and that guy stood us up. His loss as I found the calendar and had it that night. And I haven't heard a thing since. George Knapp and I were both sent the transcript before it was published but we couldn't get through it. In fact, George wrote the forward without even reading the book.

So, on Amazon.com they've got thirty book reviews. That's not exactly an explosion of interest. Most of it's positive but word isn't exactly spreading like wild fire due to the lack of the quality of the product. But Bob didn't write a word or even read it so you can't blame him! DeLonge's just trying to scam money off of the unsuspecting public.

Bob and Joy have been planning on getting out of Michigan for a couple of years now and this move had absolutely nothing to do with a windfall of any sort from this irrelevant book or from Corbell's "Fake Documentary".

And you can quote me on this...

Gufon

From: johnlear@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:26 AM
To: Gene Huff
Subject: RE: Money

I noted on my page that Georges forward that in 12 pages he mentions Corbell, you and many others but not a single mention of my name. I thought it was hilarious!!!! What is he pissed at me for?

Condor

Condor,

That is friged up. What in the world would Corbell have to do with the Bob Lazar story? I think George treads dangerously close to violating his profession by continually promoting Corbell as though he doesn't have a financial interest in Corbell's products, which are actually George's products with Corbell's name fraudulently on them! Why don't you e-mail George and ask him, exactly, what Corbell had to do with the Bob Lazar story as compared to you? And the only reason he mentions Corbell is because George has a little interest in the book and interest in Corbell's sales! Because Corbell has nothing to do with any of it! So George's total interest is financial while supporting DeLonge and Corbell, two of the biggest frauds currently trying to knife their way into ufology by contributing nothing.

Gufon

[hoss58]

More from John....

John Lear
Nov. 21st, 2019
Dreamland: What a Fraud!

I picked up Dreamland, the alleged autobiography by Bob Lazar last night about 1 am. I read the last page, page 243, this morning at 7:43 am.

I was thinking about the last half of the book being so totally inaccurate, and from page 119 where I start to page 243, the last page in the book, I counted only 3, correct quotes. On the 124 pages between was written as if the writer had heard the story fourth hand and used google and his imagination to fill in the rest.

By page 243 I was in a kind of a daze, my memory being jogged 30 years, and how many errors there were and how it was probably never going to get straightened out. I don't think Gufon is going to do it, and I sure as hell wasn't.

But I had a realization. And the realization was that Bob had worked at S-4 on genuine extraterrestrial flying saucers. Had taken a few friends up to see a few of the test flights in March and April of 1989. Had been fired. He told George Knapp the whole story who then released it to the public. Bob then spent his time on running his business United Nuclear Scientific. Period. The details of who said what, where, and when, which road they actually took to Area 51, how they got detained and by whom, how the ET propulsion worked and what Bob said when he first crawled into the disc he called the 'Sport Model' are irrelevant. In Dreamland we have the gist of it.

The only three quotes that were accurate in the book were:
On page 215 where Dennis calls Bob and says, "Do you have any idea what we're going to do to you now?"
When someone calls Bob (page 236) just before he is to leave to Japan for an interview and says, "If you take this trip to Japan, you will never return."
When the nurse at Area 51 "drew a neat grid (on the bottom of my arm) of 16 uniform sized square." (Page 37)
And I am not sure about those because I wasn't there.

I am sure about the total BS of most of the stories such as me doing an outside loop in a Learjet and crashing into the ground. (Page 152) Learjets are not designed to do aerobatics.

And on the first trip to Area 51 to watch the disc "(John) pointed to the north and east toward Area 51 and Groom Lake." Area 51 and Groom Lake were to the south and west. (Page 162).

And on the third trip out there, "We took more precautions...we made frequent stops and diverted from the highway and looped around the interchange to see if anyone was following." Total nonsense. To loop around the interchange would have taken about 22 miles.(Page 179.)

Dreamland contains hundreds of errors like this that the writer just made up.

But a hundred years from now the book is not even likely to get a footnote in history. So who cares. I don't.

I prefer complaining about things rather than fixing them.

John Lear Wednesday November 21, 2019