Another potential motivation behind the Corona virus lockdowns

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Beyond Masks: This Portable Head Pod Could Be Your Future.

I had sent some images on one of my replies the other day of some other ideas to having to wear a mask...maybe some of you thought that I had gone insane.. and maybe I still have...

I said :

I think that I may need something more like a light weight Astronauts or deep sea divers  or motor bike like helmet or see thru type of gas mask sphere type complete head cover  that has some sort of filter or oxygen feed or demister.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151169#msg151169

but  to my surprise next day I came across this....so I wonder was I having some sort of conscious thoughts or vision entering my brain.. as its seems  rather a bit of a coincidence to me... (and I had had things happen like this on quite a few occasions in recent times)

I wonder how people may view this idea ? That may make us  look a bit like Astronauts..

No doubt could be more expensive than just using masks  ..Maybe if you make your own .

(But maybe not IF people buy them at some of the prices that some manufacturers of masks now are charging and  Dependent how long things go on for)

and maybe this would more inconveinient to put on and uncomforatable to wear...BUT they could be a safer bet if the Virus is as serious as we are led to believe..)

With governments mandating the wearing of face masks left right and centre, and social distancing plastic pods popping up everywhere, it isn't too much of a jump to image a future where we are all forced to walk around in our own bubbles, literally.

Indeed, companies are already rushing to develop exactly that, with one already having received fifty thousand pre-orders for a portable head pod:

With governments mandating the wearing of face masks left right and centre, and social distancing plastic pods popping up everywhere, it isn't too much of a jump to image a future where we are all forced to walk around in our own bubbles, literally.

Indeed, companies are already rushing to develop exactly that, with one already having received fifty thousand pre-orders for a portable head pod:

The bubble, known as the 'BioVYZR', is being developed by VYZR technologies, a company that designs protective equipment.

The hazmat-style bubble is made from neoprene, marine vinyl, and ripstop, and has a battery powered N-95 respirator and an anti-fogging viewing window.

VYZR is charging $250 a pop for the head pod, with Bloomberg noting that it has received $400,000 already from eager customers wanting to encase their faces in plastic.

Yezin Al-Qaysi, the co-founder of VYZR technologies, commented "When the [Covid-19] outbreak happened, we realized that in a perfect world, everyone would have access to a Powered Air Purifying Respirator."

"We've taken a product usually limited to health care and industrial settings that's typically priced around $1,800 and adapted it to be accessible to the public," Al-Qaysi added.

So here we are, literally at the movie Bubble Boy:

Another similar idea..

Can you imagine walking around or entering shops in one of these ...




https://summit.news/2020/07/17/beyond-masks-this-portable-head-pod-could-be-your-future/

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In Portugal we have to wear masks when we are inside shops, and the same applies to the workers. Fines for not wearing them are between 100€ and 500€.


So how long has this been the case for ArMaP... since he lock down in March... or did things alter or come in more recently..  Thse fines are very expensive.. and many poor people or maybe maybe less clever or who may have some mental issues  (who are the ones more likely to offend IMO)  would never afford to pay them ... I see that as a MAJOR concern..in any Country.

In Portugal that doesn't apply, as the number of people inside shops is already reduced to (in theory), 0.02 persons per square metre, so most small shops can only have one person at a time inside.



THat also applies to some shops in the UK... but not all... and I am not sure what % wise may apply it to compare. but I can see if it able to contro more... it could help avoid those sort of problems... BUT some shops who were using similar systems.. have also now removed them in the UK in recent weeks .. and even Tescos in the UK who had applied some quite strick rules maybe more than many other shops have also recently slackened off in somethings and removeed certain restrictions..to my surprise...

As far as I know that hasn't happened here, at least not in a scale to make it noticeable. A few days ago there was one person that went to the office of a company that, although not the one where I work, it's a "sister" company, and I have been helping them most of the time. That person didn't have a mask, so we gave her one and she put it on without any problems, I suppose she only forgot about it.


It could be good if Businesses would offer Free Masks..for those who do not have them or forget them or run out.. but there is also concern about masks being easily just thrown away and litter problems etc..but my overall impression is the have to pay for or make their own


Wearing masks is the best way of not spreading CoViD-19 or any other disease, haven't you noticed in the last years, when we see images from Japan we see some people wearing masks? They have been doing that for a long time.
In Portugal, in the Lisbon area, we haven't had a reduction of the number of new cases, so things are stricter than in the rest of the country. One of the reasons things haven't got better is because people are ignoring the directions of the health authority and even making "CoViD parties". In at least one case some of the people in one of those parties were making bets to see who would catch it first when the police arrived and disbanded the party.

In the UK it has taken them a LONG time to suggest wearing a Mask would be a better option as opposed to other who as you describe had decided that they were a more vaid option from early on or from when the threat first came known.


The places where things were better controlled were the places where people are already being controlled, like China and South Korea. Yes, I said South Korea, people were completely tracked by the government and as they knew exactly where people were at almost any time they were able to quickly find the sources of the infections and close those areas. They were very strict and the result was a strong reduction in cases soon after the start.


Yes Japan and some other countries have wore masks for some years.. (I thought often due to air pollutoin rather than virus threats  (unless such threats were known to be valid) )
Different laws, timelines and situations.

For example, in Portugal they had to declare state of emergency, which allows the suspension of some constitutional rights, to be able to enforce the stay at home order and give police the power to sent people back home, as the Portuguese constitution states that everyone has the right to resist an order that goes against their rights, liberties and guarantees.


In Portugal, our biggest problem was lack of control of the people entering the country. I know a lawyer that married an Italian man and moved to Italy 2 years ago. As she still has some pending processes she has to come to Portugal from time to time, and she entered Portugal, coming from the North of Italy, the area worst affected, at the beginning of March, and she told us that nobody asked her if she had any symptoms or any thing like that, she just walked through the airport without any control.

Yes that was a problem for many Countries.. looking back now many acted very poorly and slowly...
WHICH I STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND... IF the thing is Genuine..

As I STILL SAY... FROM PAST EXPERIENCES OVER HISTORY... THEY ALL SHOULD  HAVE STRICK RULES and PROCEDURES ALWAYS,  TODAY ... IN PLACE  to AUTOMATICALLY APPLY UNDER SUCH THREATS...

Its seems that many of the Euro Countries and  the USA just bloody ignored the threat...and were really careless with their Borders or allowing Flights to continue...at least as what seemed to make no reductions what so ever for several weeks.... when certain Countries were showing serious signs of infection....



That's a very big "if"...

THAT NEEDS TO TRY TO BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER ... but at the moment what AJ said may seem possible.if Trump has had concerns over the W.H.O... so what makes you still say its a BIG IF ?

Would you be suggesting Trump has got it wrong ? or his actions may not relate to possibly Gates Involvement

see some of these other website comments that I found in ref to Bill Gates and WHO..see more info on them below..

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.

https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2019/01/world-health-organization-gates-foundation-now-second-largest-funder-after-u-s-government/

We have a major crisis on our hands. Bill Gates is a VERY SERIOUS threat to not just the world economy, but to world peace. He has been using a loophole that allows health organizations to appear to be government agencies but are not independent and have been actually controlled by Gates. You will see that 80% of the funding of WHO is not from governments, but from donations. Then you see that Gates is the largest donor after countries listed on their website. Behind the curtain, the WHO has been bullied and pushed around by Bill Gates according to various sources one who is even writing a book on the domination of the WHO by Gates.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/conspiracy/bill-gates-has-been-controlling-who/


I saw that today on Euronews, the UK, as usual, acts like a servant of the US, so if the US bans Huawei they have to do the same. The interesting part is that most equipment for 5G is made by Huawei, so I suppose 5G will have some delays as a result.

PS: Vodafone in Portugal uses Huawey routers for the normal and corporate Internet clients.

Its also quite a surprise to see this occur along with Trumps issue with the WHO..so is there a connection...

Putting this into search engines to see what maybe said ..come up with quite a few other known people I am aware of other than Alex Jones who also suggest Gates as a Threat..

Is Bill Gates connected to the WHO ?

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.

Providing proof that the independence of the World Health Organization (WHO) has been severely compromised, a document from the 2018 annual meeting of the World Health Assembly (WHA), the WHO's decision-making body, gives revealing details of where the organization's funding comes from. During 2017, the total amount of money provided to the WHO by countries was exceeded by that coming from non-state actors, including the pharmaceutical industry. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.   

Money donated by countries to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds totaled $1.06 billion in 2017. This was less than the contributions from non-state actors, which amounted to $1.08 billion. Along with the Gates Foundation, other prominent sources of funding included the Brussels EU Commission, which gave over $84 million; the 'Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria', an organization promoting the use of antiretroviral drugs and other pharmaceutical approaches, which contributed over $16 million; and UNITAID, another organization promoting the use of pharmaceuticals, which gave almost $30 million.
Drug and chemical industry donations to the WHO

The multinational drug and chemical industries and their investors figure prominently in the lists of WHO donors. Money contributed to the WHO's General Fund by these sources during 2017 included the following:
Bayer AG   $1,158,060


Other prominent WHO donors during 2017 included banks, private foundations with links to the pharmaceutical industry, and the George Soros Open Society Institute.
Gates treated like a head of state by the WHO 

With the contributions provided to the WHO by the Gates Foundation now exceeding those of every national government on earth apart from the United States, the WHO clearly no longer has any independence in the field of health. Having traded its scientific credibility for funding from business interests, its advice on the prevention and control of diseases cannot be trusted.

The money donated by Gates undoubtedly buys him a lot of attention at the WHO. Illustrating the extent to which he has essentially 'captured' the organization, the picture at the top of this article shows him sitting alongside Margaret Chan, WHO Director-General between 2007 and 2017, at a press conference in Geneva. The sway Gates gained over the WHO during Chan's tenure has led to him being labeled by some as "the world's most powerful doctor". As Politico has pointed out, the size of his contributions have brought him an outsized influence on the WHO's agenda. The first private individual to give a keynote speech at a WHA meeting, Gates' authority at the WHO is said to be comparable to that of a head of state.

In this situation, it isn't difficult to imagine that, should Gates ever threaten to withdraw his gigantic funding, the WHO would inevitably bend its policies to suit his will. Indeed, it is said that the appointment in 2017 of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus as the new Director-General of the WHO was made with Gates' support.

Clearly, having sold its soul to Gates and other business donors, the WHO no longer represents the interests of patients. The time has therefore come for it to be replaced with a new global body tasked with the goal of making natural preventive health a human right. Achieving this will require the creation of an organization that is truly independent. Avoiding the mistakes of the WHO and its leaders will be essential for such a body to succeed.

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We have a major crisis on our hands. Bill Gates is a VERY SERIOUS threat to not just the world economy, but to world peace. He has been using a loophole that allows health organizations to appear to be government agencies but are not independent and have been actually controlled by Gates. You will see that 80% of the funding of WHO is not from governments, but from donations. Then you see that Gates is the largest donor after countries listed on their website. Behind the curtain, the WHO has been bullied and pushed around by Bill Gates according to various sources one who is even writing a book on the domination of the WHO by Gates.



Melinda Gates has been behind pushing digital currency and she has been addressing the G7 on the claim that this will empower women. Just unbelievable sophistry that digital currency will be better and create more jobs for women? She is also ANTI-Trump.





I have explained that Jeffrey Epstein was NOT a Pedifile which is someone who is after children pre-puberty. I certainly would not have been able to visually distinguish between a girl who was 17 and one who is 18. So what is the point of seeking girls who are 16-17 and risk a criminal violation? To me, it has always smelled of a blackmail scheme. Get people involved who may or may not even know they are 17 v 18 and then use that as a bargaining chip for other things. Here Gates teamed up with Epstein, not once, but three times he went to his island. He was dealing with Epstein since 2011 and was looking at partnering with him where he would get a $30 million fee. So was Gates one of his targets? Or was Gates looking to use Epstein for a power-play blackmail scheme against others?

It is well known in among programmers that Bill Gates didn't write the operating system which made Microsoft known as DOS. Gary Kildall (1942-1994) wrote CP/M, an operating system that ran on early microcomputers based on 8-bits. IBM either couldn't or wouldn't make a deal with Kildall. Bill Gates bought what became MS DOS from Seattle Computer Products for $50,000 and licensed it to IBM.

DOS was actually written by a 22-year old Tim Paterson (born June 1, 1956). How much of Kildall's intellectual property he appropriated is a matter of some dispute. IBM later did make a deal with Kildall by some accounts after threatening to sue IBM because DOS infringed on his copyright. The early IBM PC was sold with both CP/M and DOS operating systems, but CP/M was sold at a much higher price. Many never were aware of the two systems. Most buyers simply chose MS DOS, which became the standard, or were steered toward MS DOS by IBM.

Gate's reputation has always been cloudy. His co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen (1953-2018), wrote in his memoirs that Bill Gates is a ruthless schemer who demeaned his employees and conspired to rip off his business partner. Mr. Gates and Mr. Allen first became friends in 1968 over their Seattle high school Teletype machine, on which they wrote their first software together. Mr. Allen moved to Boston and Gates dropped out of Harvard University in 1975 so they could work on what would eventually become Microsoft.

The authors of "Primal Leadership" wrote in the Harvard Business Review some years ago that Gates was one of "those infamous corporate leaders who seem to have achieved sterling business results despite their brutish approaches to leadership."

Microsoft founder Bill Gates stepped down in February 2000 as chief executive of Microsoft allegedly as part of the settlement with the Department of Justice in his battle in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Gates remained as Chairman of Microsoft with the new title of Chief Software Architect. He then claimed he wanted to return "to what I love most, focusing on technologies for the future." This was an interesting explanation.

What led to this was on May 18th, 1998, the Department of Justice (DoJ) and the attorneys general of 20 different states filed antitrust charges against Microsoft to determine whether the company's bundling of additional programs into its operating system constituted monopolistic actions. The suit was brought following the browser wars that led to the collapse of Microsoft's top competitor, Netscape, which occurred when Microsoft began giving away its browser software for free.

Charges were brought against Microsoft to determine whether its bundling of additional programs into its operating system constituted monopolistic actions. Back then, there were rising concerns that it was impossible to compete against Microsoft and many alleged Gates was a ruthless businessman. The government case accused Microsoft of making it difficult for consumers to install competing software on computers operated by Windows.

Gates was accused of creative editing of video, twisting facts, and emails, but Microsoft still lost the case. The presiding judge, Thomas Penfield Jackson, ruled that Microsoft violated parts of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which was established in 1890 to outlaw monopolies and cartels. He found that Microsoft's position in the marketplace constituted a monopoly that threatened not only the competition but also innovation in the industry. You could not invent a product for Microsoft would create a competitive and put you out of business. Judge Jackson also called for Microsoft to divide the company in half and create two separate entities that would be called baby bills. The operating system (MS DOS/Windows) would make up one half of the company and the software arm would make up the other.

Microsoft appealed citing the Judge was biased in favor of the prosecution. The appeals court overturned Judge Jackson's decision against Microsoft. Instead of seeking to break up the company, the Department of Justice decided to settle with Microsoft. In its settlement, the DoJ abandoned the requirement to break up the company, in return, Microsoft agreed to share computing interfaces with other companies. The company saw its once invincible market share erode due to old-fashioned competition which allowed computers to finally explode after Gates' control was demolished. This is what has been alleged was part of the unpublished deal that Gates himself would step down, which he interestingly allegedly did to avoid the breakup of Microsoft.

Bill Gates' father was the head of Planned Parenthood. Many saw this as a covert means to justify abortion among minorities to reduce the population which he has been so concerned with which is why he has supported the Climate Change movement. Bill Gates in an interview said:  "When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it's fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that."



Gates appears to be carrying out his father's objectives. His wife Melinda Gates, who had three kids, is alleged to have embraced abortion as a means for women to be liberated. Of course, abortion is a tool for eugenics. Many know of the racist legacy of Margaret Sanger (1879-1966), the founder of Planned Parenthood, who once gave a talk to the KKK and helped promote the "Negro Project." In her own words, "[Birth control] means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks— those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization." (NYT, April 8, 1923). To this day, 79% of Planned Parenthood's surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of African American or Hispanic/Latino neighborhoods (Map).

Few know that this project is continued on an international scale by the enormous wealth of Bill Gates. In 1965, the Rockefeller Foundation was a significant donor to the International Planned Parenthood Federation (Source). Today, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has spent billions on population control in Africa and throughout the Third World. Obianuju Ekeocha, author of Target Africa, wrote in her 2012 open letter to Melinda Gates:

"Amidst all our African afflictions and difficulties, amidst all the socioeconomic and political instabilities, our babies are always a firm symbol of hope, a promise of life, a reason to strive for the legacy of a bright future. So a few weeks ago I stumbled upon the plan and promise of Melinda Gates to implant the seeds of her 'legacy' in 69 of the poorest countries in the world (most of which are in Sub-Saharan Africa). Her pledge is to collect pledges for almost $5 billion in order to ensure that the African woman is less fertile, less encumbered and, yes, she says, more 'liberated.'"



Bill Gates has targeted both Climate Change and the claim of gender equality, which is, interestingly, about women liberation not to have children. Of course, "gender equality" is all about reducing the population. Is Gates merely continuing his father's work by changing the label? In the world of insurance, you buy fire, accident, and theft insurance. However, you do not buy "death insurance" because people saw it as bad luck. They changed the label to "life insurance" and suddenly everyone bragged about how much they had. Planned Parenthood has long had a racist undertone. Just change the label to "gender equality" and everything is good!

Bill Gates has taken over the world health issue as he allegedly ruthlessly he ran Microsoft. This man, I believe, has threatened civilization itself. We should be yelling to every politician in every country to (1) abolish any governmental agency from accepting any private donation AT ONCE! and (2) to launch an investigation into the connections with Gates that span the entire world. I may be risking my life even saying this – but we have a right to be free, not tagged and herded like cattle.
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EXPOSED: Bill Gates Funding Partnerships and Moderna – America's Tangled Vaccine Web
By Viable Opposition

By Viable Opposition – The hunt for the world's first coronavirus vaccine is taking place with numerous companies and countries seeking to solve the COVID-19 pandemic.  At the forefront, we find one American company that has been given a clear advantage in the process.

On May 15, 2020, Donald Trump announced this:

"Today I want to update you on the next stage of this momentous medical initiative.  It's called Operation Warp Speed.  That means big and it means fast.  A massive scientific, industrial, and logistical endeavor unlike anything our country has seen since the Manhattan Project.  You really could say that nobody has seen anything like we're doing, whether it's ventilators or testing.  Nobody has seen anything like we're doing now, within our country, since the Second World War.  Incredible.

Its objective is to finish developing and then to manufacture and distribute a proven coronavirus vaccine as fast as possible.  Again, we'd love to see if we could do it prior to the end of the year.  We think we're going to have some very good results coming out very quickly.  In addition, it will continue accelerating the development of diagnostics and breakthrough therapies....

To date, Operation Warp Speed has brought together all of the experts across the federal government from places like the NIH, CDC, FDA, and many other agencies.  This historic partnership will now bring together the full resources of the Department of Health and Human Services with the Department of Defense.  And we know what that means.  That means the full power and strength of military — the military.  And that — really, talking about the logistics — if we get it, when we get it.  That means the logistics, getting it out, so that everybody can take it.

And today, we're proud to announce the addition of two of the most highly respected and skilled professionals in our country — worldwide respected.  Operation Warp Speed's chief scientist will be Dr. Moncef Slaoui, a world-renowned immunologist who helped create 14 new vaccines — that's a lot of our new vaccines — in 10 years, during his time in the private sector.  One of the most respected men in the world in the production and, really, on the formulation of vaccines." (my bolds)

Notice "...so that EVERYONE can take it".  That sounds pretty non-optional to me.

Until Trump's announcement, Dr. Slaoui was a former member of Moderna, Inc.'s Board of Directors as shown here:



While Moderna may not be a "tip of the tongue" pharmaceutical company, Washington is, in fact, very familiar with the company.  Here is an announcement from Moderna dated April 16, 2020:

Thanks to American taxpayers, the company has benefited from a "donation" of $483 million from the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority or BARDA, part of the Department of Health and Human Services as shown here:

Not only has Moderna benefitted from the generosity of American taxpayers, it has benefitted from none other than the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as shown here and here.

As if those connections weren't enough, Dr. Slaoui is also connected to the Gates Foundation through his position on the Board of Directors of the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative (IAVI) as shown here.

I bet that you can't guess who funds IAVI?  That's right, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as shown here.
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Moderna's timeline of the development of its mRNA-1273 vaccine answer to the COVID-19 pandemic includes this, noting the highlighted portion of the announcement:

While you may not have heard of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), its mission is to "stimulate and accelerate the development of vaccines against emerging infectious diseases and enable access to these vaccines for people during outbreaks.  CEPI also claims the following:

"If a highly contagious and lethal airborne pathogen, with the characteristics of the 1918 Spanish Flu, were to emerge today it is estimated that nearly 33 million people worldwide would die in just 6 months.

The costs of emerging infectious diseases are vast—in both human and economic terms. Recent economic work suggests that the annual global cost of moderately severe to severe pandemics is roughly $570 billion, or 0.7 percent of global income. The cost of a severe pandemic like the 1918 Spanish flu could total as much as 5 percent of global GDP."

Note the use of the "33 million people worldwide would die in just six months" mantra, not entirely dissimilar to the fear being used during the initial days of the pandemic.

By now, you probably have a pretty good idea of who is funding CEPI but here is the list of founding and current donors.

As well, two voting members of CEPI's Scientific Advisory Committee are representatives of the Gates family:

Here's one of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's donations to CEPI.

Let's close this rather complicated posting by looking back at Moderna.  Thus far, Moderna has tested its mRNA-1273 vaccine on 45 individuals between the ages of 18 and 55 with the company claiming success and announcing the start of Phase 2 testing on more human subjects.  It has also announced that it is partnering with Lonza U.S. to produce up to 1 billion doses of its new experimental product mRNA-1273 starting in July 2020:

Unfortunately, by its own admission, Moderna has not successfully created a vaccine for coronaviruses as shown in this quote:

"We had previously collaborated with the NIH on a vaccine for MERS-CoV, which is a different type of coronavirus than the current pandemic. While the program was only at the research stage, it provided significant insights as we launched our efforts for mRNA-1273. Before the Phase 1 study for mRNA-1273, we had not previously tested a coronavirus vaccine in humans."

Caveat emptor.  Moderna is not unique in its inability to create a safe vaccine for coronaviruses; there has never been a vaccine for coronavirus at any time.

The complicated web of one of the world's wealthiest philanthropic armchair virologist, pharmaceutical research and his links to the newly appointed "vaccine czar" Dr. Slaoui should cause us to ponder the rapid "Warp Speed" development of a vaccine dedicated to ending the COVID-19 pandemic.  There are just so many connections between the main players in this drama that conflicts of interest are certain to trump solid science.  With Moderna having a half billion dollars worth of taxpayer funding and the company's solid connections to the Bill Gates "vaccine  funding machine", I suspect that we already have a pretty good idea that the mRNA-1273 vaccine is going to be the vaccine of choice.
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I was not aware of this organisation before...

This website makes a ref to Bill Gates and the W.H.O and this  Global Health Alliance  being connected to each other
when you read thru some of the other webpages...

Bill Gates is a Member of it...

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/members_partners/member_list/gates/en/



About the Alliance

To date, the Alliance has contributed significantly to a range of global, regional and national level initiatives and achievements. These include: expanding the Alliance membership to comprise and engage over 400+ organizations, multi-constituency in nature, with a stake in HRH; elevating HRH on various global agendas and in the World Health Organization's (WHO) mandated program of work; facilitating policies and action by national governments to address HRH issues, and; demonstrating evidence that indicators of progress such as aggregate HRH density, coordinated and comprehensive HRH national planning, as well as illness and death rates in critical countries have been improving.Its added value lies in its mandate – to support, convene and harness the capacities of its global, regional and national partners and members, working across the multiple dimensions of HRH – whether in health, education, finance or labour sectors. This has enabled and will continue to enable a stronger, multi-sectoral focus on HRH within the global health agenda.

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/about/en/

The Global Health Workforce Alliance

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/en/

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    Bill Gates Funding Relationship With WHO Explained

Bill Gates Funding Relationship With WHO Explained

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is one of many WHO partners that collaborate on and fund a number of global public health projects.
By Aswin Narayanan May 17, 2020

Misinformation and conspiracy theories have almost spread as fast as COVID-19 in recent months and the World Health Organization (WHO), along with Bill Gates, has been a major target for many of those theories. The internet is full of fake news surrounding both the WHO and Gates with social media users questioning the relationship between the two. Here's a closer look at exactly how Bill Gates and the WHO are connected.

The WHO has been under intense pressure from the Trump administration ever since the US was hit hard by coronavirus. President Trump's harsh criticism of the WHO, along with US funding cuts for the organization, have turned many hostile towards the agency. Although Gates has been a long-time target of anti-vaccination advocates, due to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's work to popularize immunization around the world, the claims have intensified since the foundation begun helping to fund the scientific fight against COVID-19. For instance, many people are convinced that it is Gates who has unleashed coronavirus on the world. In some instances, there are those that believe it is for the benefit of his vaccine program, while others think it is to set up a global surveillance system and a new world order. The sum of which is the internet is full of users claiming that the WHO is controlled by Gates and the foundation.
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While a far-fetched claim, it is safe to assume that the foundation has some influence over the WHO's projects, considering it is one of the agency's biggest contributors. The WHO is an agency under the United Nations and is responsible for international public health. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, on the other hand, is a private foundation that's focused on projects to enhance global healthcare and reduce poverty. As per the WHO documents, the foundation is one of the non-state actors that has official relations to the international agency and collaborates with it on various public health projects, and mainly in developing nations.
Gates' Relationship With The WHO

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has had a long history of engagement with the WHO and on various healthcare projects, such as Polio eradication. The foundation and the WHO are major partners in global public health initiatives like the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) and the Global Health Workforce Network (GHWN), and these initiatives are funded by both public and private money. Therefore, the funding is usually a combination of money donated by the WHO, governments, private companies and foundations, such as Gates' Foundation. For instance, recently, the governments of major countries have been contributing considerable amounts to GAVI due to its active involvement in the efforts to find a COVID-19 vaccine. In order for a non-state actor engaging with the WHO on projects, the organization and the actor will have to adhere to the WHO's Framework Of Engagement With Non-State Actors (FENSA). As part of this, the associating group will have to reveal its assets, annual income, funding sources and existing relations with tobacco, arms, or other industries.

As a non-state actor engaging in official relations with the WHO, it is safe to assume that the Gates Foundation would have been vetted by the agency. However, it is important to acknowledge that the foundation continues to face criticism regarding its investments in pharmaceutical firms, companies responsible for heavy pollution, and even for-profit prison corporations. As a result, questions are bound to be asked on why the organization is supporting a private foundation with such investments. As this Politico article suggests, over the years concerns have been raised by different respected critics on the foundation's - one of the WHO's biggest funding sources - influence over the organization's global projects. In other words, the conspiracy theorists can't be entirely blamed for the theories now surfacing around coronavirus, Bill Gates and the WHO.

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https://screenrant.com/bill-gates-who-funding-explained/

[ArMaP]

Those head pods will not sell well on a hot country.

Wearing a mask in 37º C (98º F) is bad enough (I know, as I wore one this week, when the temperature reached 37º here in the Lisbon Area), imagine having your head inside a plastic bubble under the hot Sun in a country like Portugal or Spain, where we usually have several days with temperatures above 30º C during the Summer.

Temperatures above 40º C are also relatively common (and expected for next month, apparently).

[ArMaP]

So how long has this been the case for ArMaP... since he lock down in March... or did things alter or come in more recently..  Thse fines are very expensive.. and many poor people or maybe maybe less clever or who may have some mental issues  (who are the ones more likely to offend IMO)  would never afford to pay them ... I see that as a MAJOR concern..in any Country.

Masks have been mandatory inside shops since May 1st, when the emergency state ended and many businesses were allowed to reopen.

People with some kind of problem (physical, medical or psychological) can ask for a doctor declaration freeing them from the obligation to use a mask or visor.

I forgot to mention that masks are not really mandatory, as people can choose between masks and visors. Most people use masks, but I have seen some with visors and one or two with both. Children bellow 10 years are not forced to use them.

THat also applies to some shops in the UK... but not all... and I am not sure what % wise may apply it to compare. but I can see if it able to contro more... it could help avoid those sort of problems... BUT some shops who were using similar systems.. have also now removed them in the UK in recent weeks .. and even Tescos in the UK who had applied some quite strick rules maybe more than many other shops have also recently slackened off in somethings and removeed certain restrictions..to my surprise...

They probably saw that they weren't get enough buyers with the limitations so risked removing them.
In Portugal that can result in a fine between 1000 and 5000 Euros.

It could be good if Businesses would offer Free Masks..for those who do not have them or forget them or run out.. but there is also concern about masks being easily just thrown away and litter problems etc..but my overall impression is the have to pay for or make their own

Surgical masks are cheap, around 0.2 each if bought in boxes of 50, like we did at work. Reusable masks are more expensive, but you can wash them and reuse them.
And yes, throwaway masks are a problem, I have seen many discarded on the street as if they were just a piece of paper.

In the UK it has taken them a LONG time to suggest wearing a Mask would be a better option as opposed to other who as you describe had decided that they were a more vaid option from early on or from when the threat first came known.

Masks are a good way of protecting other people, as they block the saliva being projected by the person wearing it if they speak, cough or sneeze, but they give only a slight protection against outside viruses or bacteria to the person wearing it.

THAT NEEDS TO TRY TO BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER ... but at the moment what AJ said may seem possible.if Trump has had concerns over the W.H.O... so what makes you still say its a BIG IF ?

Because it is a big if. Suggesting Gates is head of the WHO is baseless and makes no sense, as it would make it harder for the WHO to get money from other countries and organisations if someone being part of the donors was the head of the WHO.

Would you be suggesting Trump has got it wrong ? or his actions may not relate to possibly Gates Involvement

I don't think his actions are related to possible Gates involvement.

In fact, the fact that Bill Gates is directly related to "big money" makes me think it would be more likely for any action from an US president to be according to it, not against, as they usually follow what "big money" wants.

Its also quite a surprise to see this occur along with Trumps issue with the WHO..so is there a connection...

The problem between the US and Huawei is mostly the fact that Huawei is Chinese and that all the other hardware companies were behind in the development of 5G technology, that's why most countries are using Huawei technology.
Now that they US made it mandatory for people not to buy from Huawei the US companies can try to make some money from it (there's the "big money" connection again).

[astr0144]

I think I would have to agree with you on that ArMaP..

Unless they had some form of cooling system included !

Otherwise maybe only a cooler climate or a winter  option  maybe...

It would also for me depend how serious I thought the threat was... until I see some suggestions that a 2nd wave is likely or if I went to another Country  that had a higher threat (where I was able to wear or bear one)

Lately in the UK... the weather has been rather strange for July... or many parts of the year for that matter.

we have had quite a lot of rain or cloud for the last couple of months after an earlier year sunny hot period in April / or May. .

Is this to do with the Tilt of the Earth I wonder... Have you had any thoughts on NASAs altering Earth Axis suggestion ?

Those head pods will not sell well on a hot country.

Wearing a mask in 37º C (98º F) is bad enough (I know, as I wore one this week, when the temperature reached 37º here in the Lisbon Area), imagine having your head inside a plastic bubble under the hot Sun in a country like Portugal or Spain, where we usually have several days with temperatures above 30º C during the Summer.

Temperatures above 40º C are also relatively common (and expected for next month, apparently).

[ArMaP]

Is this to do with the Tilt of the Earth I wonder... Have you had any thoughts on NASAs altering Earth Axis suggestion ?

See my answer on that thread.

[kevin]

I must stop doubting the dominant story about the supposed virus.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/instagram-threatens-delete-greenmedinfocom-again-why?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Instagram%20Threatens%20to%20Delete%20GreenMedInfo.com%20AGAIN%20-%20Why%3F%20%28UC6GKJ%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

Sounds very borg like to Me.
Resistance is futile.

You must BELIEVE or be eliminated.

kevin

[astr0144]

If I recall Several Internet related Companies from Facebook, Google, yahoo have  sent messages to ask for the website owners to remove content or they have removed it...  or banned certain websites like Alex Jones channel from youtube...

It just seems that these companies are made out to be trusted and seem to either work on behalf of whoever or act at their request... and no longer offer free speech or alternative views for certain topics any more..
as if they now sort of Police what is acceptable.

On some news media this morning, it was saying that in some places that quite a large % of people do not like the idea of being asked to wear masks and are also concerned about vaccines... I think it suggested maybe in the USA.. a 1/3 of people or more may oppose it...

and IF the Govt try to enforce both mask wearing and vaccines... thats a LOT of resistance towards them...
There was mention that these people were aware and concerned about wearing masks and Bill Gates and his vaccination program agenda.

You get the Doctors who work on some of these media programs... saying how they would be willing to become Testers for the Vaccine and trying to convince the public..

Then you get some accusing the Conspirisists of misleading the public... but some presenters on the media may side on their advisors... but some seem uncertain... and may question things themselves..or they may remain neutral../ unsure.

No doubt with the Internet... this could work either way.. for the  best or the worst depending on how people may view things..

If the Virus was genuine and the Conspirisists are wrong... it could be a high price to pay...

but its the opposite or same if Govt are hoaxing the public..

I just see this as being VERY HARD for any of us to know what think or trust or believe..

In the UK they may now have another Town that could be worse than Leicesters lock down..
Its weird as for the UK on many things they slacked down in the last few weeks... and then we get this on quite a large scale.. if it continues a 2nd wave will occur in many parts of the UK...if its legit...

Blackburn has overtaken Leicester to have the highest coronavirus infection rate in England, data today revealed.
Figures show the borough of Blackburn with Darwen in Lancashire had a rate of 78.6 Covid-19 cases per 100,000 in the seven days to July 17.
Leicester — the first place in the UK to be hit by a local lockdown — saw 72.6 cases per 100,000 people over the same period.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8540885/Mosque-Blackburn-forced-close-imam-tests-positive-Covid-19.html

A quarter of Brits say they may refuse the coronavirus vaccine
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/quarter-brits-say-may-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine-13012707/

I must stop doubting the dominant story about the supposed virus.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/instagram-threatens-delete-greenmedinfocom-again-why?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Instagram%20Threatens%20to%20Delete%20GreenMedInfo.com%20AGAIN%20-%20Why%3F%20%28UC6GKJ%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

Sounds very borg like to Me.
Resistance is futile.

You must BELIEVE or be eliminated.

kevin

[ArMaP]

If I recall Several Internet related Companies from Facebook, Google, yahoo have  sent messages to ask for the website owners to remove content or they have removed it...  or banned certain websites like Alex Jones channel from youtube...

Facebook, Google or Yahoo have no legitimacy or power to ask any site to change their content, but they do have the power to control what is posted on their own sites and how their services are used.
The problem with that is that Google controls almost all the advertising in the Internet, so when it reduces the score of conspiracy theories sites to almost zero the advert companies stop using those sites and the sites lose their main source of income, as most are free.

If the Virus was genuine and the Conspirisists are wrong... it could be a high price to pay...

but its the opposite or same if Govt are hoaxing the public..

For the second option the be the most likely then all governments in the world are working together, as this is a global event. If country contrary to the status quo like Venezuela, for example, got any information or doubt about they would use it immediately in their propaganda, and that hasn't happened.

In the UK they may now have another Town that could be worse than Leicesters lock down..
Its weird as for the UK on many things they slacked down in the last few weeks... and then we get this on quite a large scale.. if it continues a 2nd wave will occur in many parts of the UK...if its legit...

Why is it weird?

In Portugal we are having not a second wave but the continuing of the first wave in the Lisbon area while most of the rest of the country saw a big reduction in cases. That happened mostly in factories and with the transportation of construction workers on private vans, where they didn't take the care they should to avoid transmission. Also, the younger adults in their 20s even started making CoViD-19 parties, defying the rules and regulations from the health authority.
Then, some 10 days later, the cases started increasing in some parishes, and when they analysed the data about those they found out that those parishes in the Lisbon region are the ones with the highest population density in the country, so it's a question of too many people together with too little care.

[kevin]

https://tricentennial.us/2020/03/28/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-world-needs-fewer-people/

Within this supposed virus plan demic is an added string where it is becoming ever more difficult to discuss about the actual agenda/s at play.

I for one see all humans as equal.

But there is others who do not, therefore it is very convienient for them to suppress all talk of possible eugenics agendas been involved by claiming any such discussion as been RACIST.

So up pops this black lives matter slogan and movement right in the middle of the so called virus outbreak???

Leicester and blackburn have high percentage Pakistan origin populations, who just so happen to be technology savvy people, they tend to live in highly dense Pakistan based areas and in the UK have all but totally taken over the running of taxi services.

The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

Kevin

[astr0144]

In ref to the companies like FB, Google, Yahoo, twitter ,instagram..etc.

Are you saing that maybe Perhaps they can only Police their own related connected websites... and
With google for eg.. they are as far as I Think I am aware.. maybe the largest search engine on the Internet.
So if any website owner is shown in their search engine... Is that to say that Google could remove them from it ?

Those companies however cannot as far as I know take action against a website on another search engine or platform
unless the content is found to be illegal and they report it to the law..

If I recall correct... Both Twitter and Instagram for eg have lately (in the past for other topics at times).. have sent messages to some of their members to ask them to remove content.. or they took action to do so..

Some main egs recently to do with Racism....in particular since the Black Lives Matter has become a main issue after the George Floyde incident..

But they also may be doing it in relation to Covid issues now.. and against People like Alex Jones views.

So the question for me is.. also they doing it thru Govt request... or just their own views on it ?

Facebook, Google or Yahoo have no legitimacy or power to ask any site to change their content, but they do have the power to control what is posted on their own sites and how their services are used.
The problem with that is that Google controls almost all the advertising in the Internet, so when it reduces the score of conspiracy theories sites to almost zero the advert companies stop using those sites and the sites lose their main source of income, as most are free.



From when I used to Follow Alex Jones... at one point he used to claim most Countries Govts are working together on certain things.. and that were certain people who are in charge who have the power to influence them on certain agendas... Its almost saying basically... Europes ran by the UN... the we have USA, Russa and China...

Im not too sure about China as I get the feeling they are one on thie own...

But I was maybe under the impression that maybe Jones could be right on Europe / USA / Russia..

For the second option the be the most likely then all governments in the world are working together, as this is a global event. If country contrary to the status quo like Venezuela, for example, got any information or doubt about they would use it immediately in their propaganda, and that hasn't happened.


Probably because NOT long before those Citys are now under Lockdown threat again... just a few weeks after they slackened off on so many things in the UK...

But Yes that maybe still par of the 1st wave rather than a 2nd wave.... or if ref to what you say... its a similar thing...

Why is it weird?

In Portugal we are having not a second wave but the continuing of the first wave in the Lisbon area while most of the rest of the country saw a big reduction in cases. That happened mostly in factories and with the transportation of construction workers on private vans, where they didn't take the care they should to avoid transmission. Also, the younger adults in their 20s even started making CoViD-19 parties, defying the rules and regulations from the health authority.
Then, some 10 days later, the cases started increasing in some parishes, and when they analysed the data about those they found out that those parishes in the Lisbon region are the ones with the highest population density in the country, so it's a question of too many people together with too little care.

[astr0144]

I have had similar thoughts on what you say...

This is is maybe another part to it and may take a bit of thinking about in how to over a more detailed reply ...

But I also do see the recent issues as having been now not only another main concern.. but also one may see positives and negitives with the situation...and maybe one questions how its going to effect things or if this is also being used as a manipulative motive..

In the UK.. NOW I do think many Whites are feeling threatened by this especially how the media has reacted to it..
and how we are seeing people being questioned about things like Bernie Eccelston for eg being asked WHY by a back person and white presenters why there seems few black people working in Formula 1..
and then the World Champion is Lewis Hamilton of black race wearing his Black Lives matter Tee Shirt..

Then there is the threat of over Competition in what was mainly a white Country maybe now having as much as 20 to 25% other races now living in the Country and at some period will be competing with us for jobs.. at all levels...
and maybe upto 25% of Children now in Schools are ethnics...

So some of the prior Working Class and maybe even middle class Generation who had less or even Children dues to econmic hardship or lack of security since Thatcher in the 1990s created HUGE Unemployment for that Generation.. 
many who have since ended up now many of the mental problems that is now a major topic in the UK...where they have been severely stressed with forms PDSD ..

If and when they are able to consider what may have happened over the years..

THEY MAY NOW LOOK BACK and WONDER what the HELL HAS HAPPENED...!

so ..To SOME ITS A MAJOR CONCERN...

MANY NOW are stuggling ... can no longer even get benefits easily..like they used to do without having to agree to do 35 hours a week job searching...which is a full time job...

and if you are unfit to work for things like mental issues... YOU NOW have to be accessed often by NON medical persons to see if you qulaify for benefits and if you get turned down.... and cannot work... basically you have had it..
and this is happening on a big scale..

NOW many of those people have to go to the new lastest thing... to FOOD BANKS...

and you not even allowed to go to them... without getting a valid voucher from some offical..

Thats part of the UK Today... !


On another sided arguement.... it maybe that many employers took this to their advantage and have used many of the immigrnats as cheaper labour... which no doubt they helped benefit the UK economy.. which would be hard to fully deny..
The NHS as being one eg....that the UK would be hard pressed to say anthing about those ethnics who took on those jobs and aided many people in Hospitals..

other than the British workers had to pu up with wage cuts and unemployment as they claim they could not afford to live to the lifestyle hat used to have on lower wages...and would not take those jobs..

Many Black TV and News presenters are now taking over..and are VERY well educated and Talented...and have pushed out some of the talented White presenters... No doubt ..Many have worked hard to get where they are... but they have got educated often the UK and Now live and work here..

Also in Football... there is a very Large % of players that are Black. often as many as 50% in many teams..
and lately many of them have made a ref to how they claim they have gone thru quite severe prejudist issues to get where they are..

BUT when you dealing with White people... often they want to employ people of the same race that they know..
or even White Friends and family etc.... so do we expect them to just easily offer a position to someone from another race... 

I mean would we want to give up our or family lifestyle if it was of a reasonable standard to allow another person from another race take over a job that maybe ones related connections may have been able to do or have..

Its a sort of natural thing for many especially the older people...

but Younger people who are now being more and more (some say educated some say brainwashed now by the system) ..may not know any different may not see it like this..and for the next generation may submitt to it and before you know it .... a generaion later.. your family could be replaced...

Alex Jones has suggested that George Sorus is involved in wanting to allow other races into the Country to create issues..or encourage more mixed race relationships...which to some degree has now more occurred..

He may have an agenda..since it is claimed he was held as a prisioner as a Jew if I recall in WW 2..where it was suggested he had to endure or do some terrible things to survive...and may have since developed an issue with some of the White race....

Things seemed bad enough for Jobs since Thatcher in the 1990s....competing against ones own race at around ones level of ability dependent what that maybe..

but lately in todays present ....at least around where I live...
I get impression is some areas now... they want a higher educated or stronger , cleverer  population to take over what ever the race...as even in my own area now.... There seems quite  a influx of other nationalities now living in many houses around the area they are all not that long ago were mainly british white owned..

Average People often seem under more and more pressure to have the lifes that they would have once had maybe more easily some years ago...

with in 10 to 20 years... the area has completely changed... and many prior whites and their offsprings since , do not have as many Children any more or have not had .

They are being replaced now by many other or various  races...

As much as a set % may have concerns about it... a larges % also seem to support such a thing...and encourage more other nationalities to become UK citizens..

and racism now is a very tricky area... as its as if you say anything to people about it you are viewed racist..
or may even get arrested if reported..

Many Blacks now are relating to the Slave trade and a type pay back that our race owes them..
and thats not to say that they d not have a fair point...

BUT they dont seem to realise also... that many Whites have been slaves to other races in the past thru out history..
such as to the Romans ..

But then we come across theories that the Blacks could be more under threat from Eugenics.. but maybe more so in places like Africa... not those in Europe... unless this Covid Virus is designed some how or other to target Coloured people more for some reason..

https://tricentennial.us/2020/03/28/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-world-needs-fewer-people/

Within this supposed virus plan demic is an added string where it is becoming ever more difficult to discuss about the actual agenda/s at play.

I for one see all humans as equal.

But there is others who do not, therefore it is very convienient for them to suppress all talk of possible eugenics agendas been involved by claiming any such discussion as been RACIST.

So up pops this black lives matter slogan and movement right in the middle of the so called virus outbreak???

Leicester and blackburn have high percentage Pakistan origin populations, who just so happen to be technology savvy people, they tend to live in highly dense Pakistan based areas and in the UK have all but totally taken over the running of taxi services.

The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

Kevin

[astr0144]

n ref to the Corona Virus...

and the big questions maybe...
IS it genuinely for real ?

or

Has it been created by whoever to become a threat to us ?
So is there some Created agenda ?

Is the Goverment or someone like the NWO or Illuminati or whoever involved...
and if so....

What Next after what we have been through...so far..
I think it seems the next stage is to create and offer us a Vaccine...
and will the public be willing to take it...

And IS this vaccine being created Genuinely to aid or help , prevent or save the population ?

OR is it it beng created for further agenda means to harm us in further or other ways.. such as make us ill in ways such as by Cancer or reduce our life expectency or kill us off quicker in some way..

So we may view this as WOULD WE RISK believing who ever its for own good or best intentions..
VERSES.... IS it a likely further THREAT ?

Will the Goverment  and maybe their control of the media start to try to convince us to believe in it or suggest enforcing it..as that is what think I can see happening now.. as its one of the latest main topics on certain major TV media related programs...and are they now going to try to brain wash the Public more..

So what do we decide from here if this becomes the case..?

If the Virus and Vaccine are genuine... then many will no doubt MAY not have too many concerns in taking it..
But this may only be valid if enough will take it...as say 50 % do not.. it may Not work as would had been expected.


But if its a Hoax and the vaccine is another part to it....
Then it may seem maybe like a death sentence..

This to me is a like a 50/50 issue and VERY HARD to make a decision on...

If many feel like this.. I will suspect will try and avoid it as long as they can... and would want to see what happens to those who are willing to risk it..
BUT How will we ever really KNOW for sure who has taken it...

and IS the Govt going to bring something out to register or to identify those who have and have NOT taken the Vaccine..
and or maybe also use Public to report those that have not...

where LiFe will get even more REALLY NASTY...!
and there could be a LOT of fall out and disagreement between Family , work colleagues , neighbours , Friends etc ...

and you maybe banned from working or benefits if you do not accept... or at some point get arrested...

or at worst be take somewhere to become vaccinated against ones will..

They are saying at the Moment that they dont want to imply we should accept to have it enforced against our will..
but from past experiences... in certain other difficult situations... I suspect this would be overruled..

THE THING IS THOUGH...
HAS ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED LIKE THIS BEFORE... EVER ?

I dont think it has to my knowledge ?

(Back in 1916 I think it was Spanish Flue)  was the last main similar epidemic.. but they did not have vaccines back then as far as I know...but we are led to believe Millions did die)

So this maybe seen as a complete new issue..and we cannot compare...

Other types of epidemics .. even like AIDS...or some other main threat. which may had as seen as bad in a different way...but I dont think that  they suggested any type of vaccine or did not suggest to enforce vaccines if there was one available for those other past threats..

SO WHY are they NOW making out that this is any worse than another other past threat

Are they really think with certainty... thats its another similar type threat to the Spanish Flue..
which if they were almost certain... they maybe doing the right thing..

But because we have now taken other precautions... does it really need us to accept the idea of vaccines at such an early stage...if they are trying to bring it in ASAP this or early next year for eg...

where may not get much time to actually see how things have worked out over say 9 month or to one year for eg..
to see how much the precautions may appear to have worked..

I know there is concern about the 2nd wave...

But I would had thought that only should appl to considering vaccines only if the leve gets back a certain value..

and to try and make us take a vaccine say whille the level is in the acceptable zone...
SO they MAY create Millions of Vaccines.. say in the next  months.. and try to to suggest we take them...
But the threat may have been seeming to ower naturally.. and may at some point disappear on it own.

if however the threat comes worse...

Then that maybe a more valid reason to consider a vaccine if and only if we believe from some testing that it is safe or safer  to take..

[micjer]

Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.





Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country. 

[ArMaP]

The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

I'm against any kind of censorship, so I'm against suppression of the discussion of technology being involved in CoViD-19, but I understand that when lives may be in risk for what is said people should act more responsibly.

Stating, for example, that people do not need to care about a virus spreading because this is not caused by a virus but by 5G radiation may make people act without care and catching the disease, with all the consequences it has, so people should be more careful about the way they say things.