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Part 2 of the Bill Gates article...
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Just a Little Prick (Part 2)

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA




Welcome to part two of `Just a Little Prick', the unauthorised Bill Gates story. Obviously, the term `little prick' refers to what happens when you have an injection and is naturally in no way meant in a pejorative way. Heaven forbid. If I were to be rude about Mr Gates his subsidised friends at The Guardian and the BBC would doubtless need to be revived with smelling salts.

In the first episode of `Just a Little Prick', I dealt with a few of Mr Gates's connections, aspirations and investments. But I made it clear that he and his wife seem to have one first love: vaccines.

Some people love cats, mountain climbing or horse racing. But Bill and Melinda Gates love vaccines. They yearn to inject everyone and to them vaccines appear to be the eighth wonder of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if they spent their honeymoon watching vaccines being made or watching vaccinations being given to tiny African children. I bet they spend their evenings drooling over vials of vaccines. And at Christmas they probably give each other unusual vaccines they've found.

Unravelling the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and its links with the world of vaccines and vaccinations has taken weeks and given me a headache. Thank heavens there isn't yet a vaccine for headaches.

Among the many partnerships and so on which the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has developed in recent years there is one with an organisation called GAVI.

Now GAVI is rather odd in that it is a partnership between the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Health Organisation (which itself is very well financed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) and the World Bank and a variety of other bodies.

So, for example, GAVI also has close and loving partnerships with what I think are some of the world's biggest, dirtiest, most disreputable multinational drug companies including GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer.

Perhaps not surprisingly, the organisation `Doctors Without Borders' has I think criticised GAVI, alleging that large multinational drug companies working with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation put high mark ups on their prices and that GAVI spends oodles of money subsidising large companies. One of GAVI's stated aims seems to be to create a healthy market for vaccines.

You will probably not be surprised to hear that Gates has close links with a number of multinational drug companies but you may, or may not, be surprised to hear that he doesn't seem to me to be terribly fussy about the company he keeps. On the other hand it would I suppose be quite difficult to find a drug company partner that didn't have a reputation that would make Al Capone blush with shame. If you get into bed with a drug company you have to be prepared to wake up in the morning with a bit of scratching and itching and so on.

In a previous video entitled `Would You Trust These People with Your Life? I detailed some of the bad things that GSK has done over recent years and I pointed out that if it were a human being GSK would be described as a recidivist. It would probably have regular appointments with a parole officer.

GSK is one of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies and in my view if it made teaspoons you'd need to be a special sort of person to buy a teaspoon from them.

In 2014, for example, GSK was fined $490 million dollars by China after a Chinese court found it guilty of bribery. The court gave GSK's former head of Chinese operations a suspended prison sentence and they gave suspended prison sentences to other executives too.

Sadly, that misadventure in China wasn't GSK's only little `Oh dear, whoops, how did that happen?' mistake. Here are some others.

In 2009 in Canada, a five-year-old girl died five days after an H1N1 flu shot and her parents sued GSK for $4.2 million. The parents' lawyer alleged that the drug was brought out quickly and without proper testing as the federal government exerted intense pressure on Canadians to get immunised.

In 2010 GSK paid out $1.14 billion because of claims over a drug called Paxil. And they settled lawsuits over a drug called Avandia for $500 million.

In 2011 GSK paid $250 million to settle 5,500 death and injury claims and set aside $6.4 billion for future lawsuits and settlements in respect of the drug Avandia.

And then there are the accusations of fraud, misbranding and failure to report safety data.

In 2012, GSK pleaded guilty to federal criminal offences including misbranding of two antidepressants and failure to report safety data about a drug for diabetes to the FDA in America. The company admitted to illegally promoting Paxil for the treatment of depression in children and agreed to pay a fine of $3 billion. GSK also reached a related civil settlement with the US Justice Department. The $3 billion fine also included the civil penalties for improper marketing of half a dozen other drugs.

There's more interesting stuff about GSK on my video entitled `Would you trust these people with your life?'

Oh, and there are a couple of other things you should know about GSK.

First, GSK is one of the top earning vaccine companies in the world. And in 2010 there were reports of narcolepsy occurring in Sweden and Finland among children who had the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. It is reported that not all the safety problems were made public.

In Ireland, the Irish Government kept inviting people to get vaccinated even when it was clear that the pandemic was on the wane and it was nowhere near the catastrophe portrayed by influenza researchers, governments, industry and the media. One member of the Irish parliament, told the Irish Prime Minister. `The Health Service Executive decided to purchase Pandemrix and continued to distribute it even after they knew it was dangerous and untested.'

It is perhaps worth noting that Professor Neil Ferguson, the Eddie the Eagle of mathematical modelling though perhaps without the innocent and patriotic charm, had predicted that the swine flu could lead to 65,000 deaths in the UK alone. In the end, the swine flu killed 457 people and had a death rate of just 0.026 per cent of those infected. Just another of Ferguson's cock ups. Cock ups seem to be a speciality of his in more ways than one.

Second, Sir Patrick Vallance, is the Chief Scientific Adviser in the United Kingdom and, I suspect, a key figure in dealing with the coronavirus in the UK and the plans for a vaccine. Vallance worked for GSK between 2006 and 2018. By the time he left GSK he was a member of the board and the corporate executive team. Fines and so on which I have listed took place while Vallance was working as a senior figure at GSK.

As I say, you can find out lots more exciting stuff about GSK and about Astra Zeneca in my video entitled `Would You Trust These People With Your Life?' If the video disappears, you can, as always find the transcript on my website www.vernoncoleman.com

Oh, and there's one more thing I nearly forgot to mention. Glaxo Smith Kline was fined £37.6 million for cheating the National Health Service. I wonder what Vallance thought about that.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation also has a relationship with Pfizer and to be honest with you, Pfizer's record isn't anything you would want to boast about. If you worked there you'd keep quiet about it I think and say you worked for the tax people or robbed banks for living.

So, for example, in the UK, Pfizer was fined £84.2 million for overcharging the NHS by 2,600% and in the US Pfizer was hit with a $2.3 billion fine for mis-promoting medicines and paying kickbacks to doctors.

You might think that a foundation wanting to have a clean reputation might avoid relationships with companies like those.

But Bill Gates doesn't seem to mind about all these little peccadillos; the cheating and the deceiving and so on. And in a way why should he? He has a team of PR people willing and able to make sure that his halo is constantly being repaired and polished and I doubt if any of his many press and broadcasting partners will want to damage their financially advantageous relationship by mentioning anything which might caught embarrassment. After all, we must not forget that the Foundation he shares with Melinda, Mrs Gates, seems to me to have investments with bought much of the world's media; doling out fairly huge chunks of cash to no doubt grateful partners. Did I remember to mention that those two sanctimonious organisations the BBC and The Guardian are partners with the Gates Foundation?

It cannot be that Gates isn't aware of the problems associated with vaccination because his own foundation has allegedly had its own little peccadilloes to think about. I've described some of those controversies in other videos.

In India there was trouble over a Gates funded vaccine programme. A government investigation claimed the programme, an observational study, violated the human rights of those being injected and failed to report properly adverse effects. That, as we have seen, is not entirely unusual drug company practice. A parliamentary investigation concluded that the Gates funded Program for Appropriate Technology in Health had been engaged in a scheme to help ensure `healthy markets' for GlaxoSmithKline and Merck (another drug company).

An eminent Indian editor said `it is shocking to see how an American organisation used surreptitious methods to establish itself in India. Another complaint was that Indians were used as guinea pigs.

In Africa a meningitis vaccine project, funded by Gates, led to reports of up to 500 children allegedly suffering seizures and convulsions and becoming paralysed.

And back in India it was reported that over 490,000 people developed paralysis as a result of the polio vaccine that was given. Remarkably and horrifyingly it was claimed that 80% of polio cases were derived from the vaccine.

There are complaints that the Gates Foundation has taken over public health for the benefit of big drug companies. The links between the Gates Foundation and other organisations and the pharmaceutical giants seem never ending.

Gates has long argued that the world is overpopulated and to help further this end the Gates Foundation is said to have funded Marie Stopes, an organisation, which performs over three million abortions a year and has also worked with a charity called Gynuity which is experimenting with a second trimester abortion trial in Africa.

But it is vaccines which seem to interest Gates most and despite all the known hazaards the enthusiastic Gates remains gungho about vaccines. He must know that there are very real dangers with vaccines but curiously it doesn't seem to worry him. I wonder if he really has any idea what he is talking about when he discusses vaccines. There seems to me to be little awareness of the risk-benefit ratio.

For example, I have seen an interview in which he agrees that if 7 billion people are vaccinated against the coronavirus there could be 700,000 people damaged by the virus. There could of course be many deaths but I don't think Mr Gates likes to talk about that scenario.

He says that there could be 700,000 people with side effects and he dismisses this as though he is talking a bit of soreness or a slight rash.

Not necessarily so, Mr Gates. I've been studying and writing about vaccines for 50 years and the side effects from vaccination are often life changing. It is perfectly possible, for example, that there could be 700,000 people with severe brain damage after the first tranche of the vaccination programme has been completed.

I wonder if Gates has any idea what a brain damaged person looks like; how devastating it is not just for them but for their relatives.

And of course the Covid 19 disease, the subject of the Gates determination for a global vaccine, has, as I keep reminding everyone, killed far, far less than the ordinary flu can kill in the same sort of time period.

What is all this about? Who is doing what for why and who is profiting and how?

Well, the drug companies are making money. Loads of it. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is getting more control over global healthcare. And Bill and Melinda are becoming ever more powerful and ever more able to pursue whatever other goals and agendas may be dear to them. And wherever they go they are treated like royalty. And Bill Gates himself is said to be richer now than he was a decade ago. Indeed, during the decade of vaccines promoted by Gates, his personal worth is said to have doubled to over $100 billion.

The bottom line, however, is that I can't help suspecting that if Gates hadn't made so much money and hadn't doled so much of it out to buy influence, everyone would laugh at him, ignore him or dismiss him as a nutter. Is there a hidden agenda? How much does Gates' fear about overpopulation influence what he does? And how much does that family interest in eugenics affect the aims of the Gates Foundation. Many rich people do wonderful things with their money – but they do it without trying to change the world and without wanting to alter the way people live.

Although Gates is a university drop out with no more medical degrees than your fridge he is regarded as a saviour and his views on vaccination are treated as though they had been carved in stone and handed down from on high. What Gates wants is what we get. It seems to me that Gates is ignorant, deluded, arrogant and enormously dangerous. In my view, he is doing, and will do, infinitely more harm than good.

And the other half of this strange joke is that whereas although I am medically trained and have studied vaccines and vaccination for half a century my questioning, cautious view, asking only for more medical or scientific evidence to be produced in support of the claims which are made, is regarded as unacceptable and I am the one libelled, demonised and dismissed as a nutter, targeted by trolls, demonised as too questioning and regarded as too dangerous to be allowed onto Facebook lest I terrify the `community' with too many truths.

Putting aside my scepticism and doubts about vaccination (and my conviction, after much research, that vaccines are neither as safe nor as effective, as we are assured by their ignorant supporters) I am deeply concerned about the safety of any coronavirus vaccine. I feel that anyone who accepts a coronavirus vaccine as proposed or supported by Bill Gates or his Foundation should perhaps be placed in protective care for their own protection. I pray that no parents will allow their children to be given a vaccine that has been hastily produced. Those who believe in vaccination should demand that any vaccines are thoroughly tested for safety and efficacy – and that all test results be made public.

Still, there is a bright side to all this.

When the inevitable biopic of Gates' life is made I hope they will use my title `Just a little prick'. It seems so suitable for a man who appears to be dedicated to vaccinating the world.

Copyright Vernon Coleman July 3rd 2020

Vernon Coleman's book on vaccines and vaccination is available on Amazon as a paperback and an eBook. It is called Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying. Here's the proof.

And his novel The Truth Kills tells the story of a middle aged GP and a young trainee doctor who questions vaccination.


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They Want to Kill 6 Billion of Us – Here's How They'll Do It

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA




There are people around who believe that if we all wear masks, obey the social distancing laws and become true slaves to the system, then everything will be back to normal by Christmas at the latest.

In the last 24 hours I have read, and been dismayed by, three articles by writers who believe that if we all behave properly, and do exactly as we are told to do, the coronavirus will slink off and all will be well with everyone back at work, the economy beginning to boom and the world well on its way to a recovery. There are even some who were shocked at the suggestion that taxes will rise dramatically in the next 12 months or so. Where do these people think the money came from – the money that an ex Goldman Sachs, currently the UK Chancellor, was throwing around with such gay abandon.

Of course, they add as a rider, we won't be able to forget about social distancing, and we may have to keep on our masks until the vaccine is ready, but everything will be normal apart from that.

I wonder what these people have inside their skulls. Porridge? Those little white polystyrene balls that are used for packaging? Bubble wrap?

They certainly don't have brains.

The people now planning to rule the world, a group of billionaires and would-be billionaires who I will, for ease, refer to as the enemy, have decided that there are too many people in the world and that the earth would be more comfortable for them if the total were reduced to around 500,000,000.

Since the current population is around 7 billion that means that at least 6 billion of us are surplus to requirements, unnecessary, not wanted on voyage. Since their ambition has a convincingly eugenic flavour they will presumably want to get rid of the weak and the poor and the elderly and the frail.

So how are they going to do that?

Well, the ignorant, scare mongering climate change nutters have done some of their work for those who want us dead. The brainwashed children and idiots who believe in man-made global warming are helping the enemy enormously. Cutting back on our use of oil and gas will kill hundreds of millions who will die of hunger and cold.

And I have no doubt that the enemy will manage another plandemic.

The abominable Gates and his wife have already said that people will pay attention when the next pandemic arrives. And I thought they both smirked very knowingly when Bill made this prediction.

It wouldn't be difficult.

They could just say that the coronavirus which caused Covid-19 had mutated. Or they could blame a pig virus or a cuckoo virus or maybe a virus from the Gates family – something unpleasant.

It wouldn't really need to be something too nasty. After all, a really bad virus might kill off some of the billionaires.

I rather suspect that we are going to have more alleged virus health calamities coming up. If it isn't the coronavirus in a pre-ordained second wave it will be something else. If they can make up one crisis then they can, and will, make up many more.

All it needs is good marketing, and organisations like the BBC will provide all the myths and fake news that the enemy will need.

The BBC, The Guardian and the Daily Mail could turn tapioca into a deadly threat.

Of course, the plan to reduce the global population is already doing well.

The enemy has got everyone social distancing. And that is known to cause illness and to kill people. The CIA reckon that social distancing is one of the most powerful weapons there is for controlling large numbers of people.

They managed to murder huge numbers in the care homes and they have killed vast numbers of the sick by closing down hospitals for absolutely no good reason.

They put everyone under house arrest – and isolation damages the immune system. Prisoners of War have confirmed that isolation does more damage than physical torture. Stress and anxiety affect the immune system too.

The masks will kill quite a few people too. It's well known that they reduce blood oxygen levels, and those with respiratory and cardiac disorders will die. It's true that surgeons wear masks but the circumstances are entirely different. Women's movement enthusiasts used to burn their bras. Perhaps, we should burn our masks – in an environmentally acceptable way, of course.

Even the sanitising gel they insist we use a dozen times a day will kill some people. (If you haven't seen it, watch my video on hand sanitisers. Or read the script on this website.)

And then there is the cold in the winter months. They are stopping us using gas and there are going to be electricity outages. Many will freeze to death in the winter months.

But I think their biggest weapon is food.

That's how they are going to bring the population crashing right down.

Food shortages are coming and the cost of food is going to rise even faster than it has been doing. And it isn't because of global warming or whatever other lies they tell you – it is, however, a side effect of the coronavirus hoax.

All around the world food is in short supply. The price of the world's most important staple food – rice – has risen by 70%. Food prices in the US have recently seen a historic jump and are, I believe, destined to stay high and go higher. Countries which have good food production are halting their exports. Vietnam, for example, has stopped exporting because they need their food supplies at home. And you cannot blame them. Some authorities condemn it as nationalism but all countries, all villages, all homes would do much the same.

And it is the managed over-reaction to a virus known to be no more dangerous than the flu that is causing the problem – and that will result in millions of deaths to add to the millions who are going to die as a result of the lockdowns.

The global death rate because of the food shortage is going to be measured in hundreds of millions – and eventually in billions. Africa and Asia are going to see the worst levels of starvation ever seen. I fear that those countries which have some grain will flog it to America – despite massive starvation. Black lives matter protestors, who have been manipulated by professionals, would be wise to forget about Cecil Rhodes's statue, and where they'd like to see it placed, and concentrate instead on helping Africans who are going to be subjected to the worst genocide in history.

So, how is the coronavirus scandal responsible for the food shortages that are coming?

That's easy to explain.

Processing plants and distribution centres all around the world have been deliberately severely disrupted by the massive over-reaction to this fairly ordinary virus.

Around the world more and more testing is being done. And although the tests are about as trustworthy as Gates, Clinton and Soros – your local purveyors of fear and death – they are treated with undeserved reverence. Curiously, it seems to me that farms and food distribution centres are being tested more than, say, civil servants or tax officials. This is odd because the chances of the virus being carried on food are roughly the same as the chance that the moon is made of cheese.

And so if one worker on a farm or in a warehouse falls ill with flu like symptoms then the authorities will close down that farm or the warehouse. Delivery systems have been massively affected as drivers are sent home for two weeks and all their colleagues sent home for two weeks too.

As a result, huge crops of vegetables and fruit are being ploughed into the ground. Millions of animals are being slaughtered and then buried or burnt because the supply chains have been shut down. America, almost unbelievably, has been importing beef because of the shortages.

The world lockdown, and the mass house arrests that were engineered to keep us all subservient, mean that thousands of farmers cannot get their crops picked. Fruit in particular is likely to rot in the fields, and tankers full of milk are being poured away. Controls on transport have meant that it has been difficult to move food from where there is a glut to where there is a dearth. It would have been easy for governments to insist that furloughed workers should help pick the crops but they didn't do so. And why would they? The plan is to eradicate the poor and the weak.

And the unsurprising consequence of all this is that there are going to be massive shortages of fruit and vegetables, and prices are going to rocket.

In the UK, the most toxic of the Remainers, the fascist EU loving lunatics, bigoted, soaked in their own prejudices and consumed by ignorance, will blame Brexit for the shortages. But then, if they develop a bald spot or lose their keys they blame Brexit.

In the US, the media will doubtless blame Trump for the food shortages.

Sadly for them all, the shortages will be global.

All around the world there will be a shortage of almost all foods.

This isn't the sort of fear-porn favoured by irresponsible main stream media giants such as the EU and Gates supported BBC.

This is real.

Other factors are going to ensure that the shortage just gets worse.

If and when the economy is allowed to stutter into action again, the price of oil will doubtless eventually rise because the existing supplies are diminishing rapidly and most oil companies have pretty well given up exploration.

The rising price of oil will mean that farming and transportation costs will rise and that will push up the price of food still further.

I tell you this not to scare you but because when you know something is happening you can do something about it.

You may think it is worthwhile building up your stocks of long-dated food staples such as rice and pasta. Dried and tinned foods which have long dates are good. As you eat your stocks, replace them with more.

Governments tell us not to store stuff but the military don't buy bullets the day they need them, do they? If you have a garden and can grow your favourite vegetables or fruit that's probably a good idea but watch that no one climbs over your fence and steals them. I don't recommend having an allotment – the chances of you being able to harvest your own crops are too remote because they will be stolen. It might also be a good idea to stock up on vitamin and mineral supplements if you usually take them.

I've always been a bit of contrarian, though I don't suppose anyone would notice, and I'm convinced that the time to panic buy is when there is no panic.

I hope the advice here will help you and your family to have a better chance to be strong and healthy. Countries look after themselves and we all need to do so. It isn't selfish. It's survival. If you buy food you will eat anyway, and you store it carefully, what have you got to lose? If I'm wrong and there is no enemy and there are no food shortages then you can always eat what you're stored.

If and when your government finally warns you of this problem it will be far too late.

Remember: you should stockpile food now – don't wait for the panic

Copyright Vernon Coleman July 17th 2020


Vernon Coleman's book Food for Thought is available as a paperback and an eBook. His book A Bigger Problem than Climate Change is also available as a paperback and an eBook.



astr0144

I can only refer to things that I have come across and some other people opinions who at least at one time I thought that I trusted their opinions on...

I know you say you do not trust Alex Jones opinions very Much. or thats my impression from many of your past replies / posts in relations to the related discussions we have had..

I cannot really 100% ever prove anything...I dont think any of us ever can...
But maybe my only option to offer at the moment is what Dr Vernon Coleman refers to...

but I know you will say one Drs View will only be one in a 100 other views..

But if he could not convince you... then I dont know who could ...
see the post kevin made by Dr Vernon Coleman..

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/index.htm

Having a bit of a further look at some of Dr Colemans comments...

and I no longer fully believe everything that Alex Jones says...

I am rather surprised to see the Dr ref in one of his Articles..
As Much as I think it could be possible.. to make a ref to such a specific figure.. I am not sure he should be trying to suggest that...

and yes... Even this Doctor has book books that he can sell that relate to many of his articles.. and I dont think just on medical issues...

So ALSO If one thinks people like Alex Jones could be questionable in a negative way or for selling his products... Some may also question such Doctors..!


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They Want to Kill 6 Billion of Us – Here's How They'll Do It.
Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA.

The people now planning to rule the world, a group of billionaires and would-be billionaires who I will, for ease, refer to as the enemy, have decided that there are too many people in the world and that the earth would be more comfortable for them if the total were reduced to around 500,000,000.



Quote from: ArMaP on July 23, 2020, 02:39:56 AM
As usual I start by asking "why"? Why would "they" do that?
In Portugal we already have a registration of the vaccines we take.
They would have to change the Portuguese constitution for that to happen here, as it does not allow for forced medial procedures.
Because of the number of people that need intensive care treatment, as it's easy for the health system to be flooded with CoViD-19 cases, like what happened in Spain and Italy.
If a virus creates immunity in infected persons then a vaccine is the best way to stop it.

kevin


astr0144

Looks familar on Page 4 bottom of the page..« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2020, 05:43:58 AM »

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151231#msg151231


ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
He says quite a few things that Alex Jones relates to.... that the Govt want to kill us off...
And that's where that idea fails, as governments get their money and power from the people, with less people they would fail, so why would they want to kill the source of their power?

QuoteThen I just came across an article from him on Bill Gates...
I read the first 10 lines or so, but it has so many wrong things that I stopped reading.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 03:41:50 PM
Looks familar on Page 4 bottom of the page..« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2020, 05:43:58 AM »

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151231#msg151231
That's because it's the same video.

Posting it twice doesn't make it true.  :P

astr0144

I see your logic in ref to why would they want to Kill us off if they lose out on man or  human power..

But also I am not convinced Money is any longer much of a issue or  concern to them....
Those at the top may  have more than 95%/ maybe even 99% of us maybe combined - already...from some sources I have come across.

One :  They have on and off ,so many times reduced employment opportunities.. or created an environment for people to take low paid jobs in which often they do not earn enough to live in a more modern economy even today in 2020..

Two : They have much more technology... Do they need all the humans anymore ?  Robots have already taken over  in many cases to quite a large scale .. and there is suggestions of Cyborgs for the future...That to me is also a high part reality.

We could just be in a further parts a NWO type experimental plan... in which they are toying with us...
and gradually making further problems for us and putting us under more and more control... to what ever next step that they maybe aiming for... Something evils like that Hitler would have maybe done.

Three... if they concerned about the Earth and its environment... killing off a large % of us...would help their cause

The more people in the World the more problems that will be..

I suspect also they may now only really want higher level  intelligent people... in which they could aim to cut down 50 % of the population who maybe under average IQ range...

I have not read Colemans other information as yet...but from parts its not looking a hopefull / promising  as I first thought..

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
And that's where that idea fails, as governments get their money and power from the people, with less people they would fail, so why would they want to kill the source of their power?
I read the first 10 lines or so, but it has so many wrong things that I stopped reading.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 05:06:43 PM
But also I am not convinced Money is any longer much of a issue or  concern to them....
Those at the top may  have more than 95%/ maybe even 99% of us maybe combined - already...from some sources I have come across.
If it's not money then it could be power, so if they do not have anyone to boss around they would have nothing to do. What do you think gives more pleasure to a power mad person, ordering around 10 people or 10 million?

QuoteTwo : They have much more technology... Do they need all the humans anymore ?  Robots have already taken over  in many cases to quite a large scale .. and there is suggestions of Cyborgs for the future...That to me is also a high part reality.
There's no fun in ordering around a robot. :)
And robots do not do most of people's work, not by far.

QuoteThree... if they concerned about the Earth and its environment... killing off a large % of us...would help their cause
No, correcting the problems would help their cause without the side effect of not having people to do their work.

QuoteThe more people in the World the more problems that will be..
That's why some people like Bill Gates are promoting better living conditions for the poor countries, as has been noticed for a long time that better conditions result in lower birth rates.

QuoteI suspect also they may now only really want higher level  intelligent people... in which they could aim to cut down 50 % of the population who maybe under average IQ range...
That would be silly, as there's no way of knowing who has a higher IQ without making a test, besides the fact that a high IQ may be useless in real life.

QuoteI have not read Colemans other information as yet...but from parts its not looking a hopefull / promising  as I first thought..
He just looks like someone that gives too much importance to his own ideas, based on bad information, so I will not give much importance to what he says.

astr0144

I suppose thru out history... Is always been Power that gave those in control Money etc or more Freedom...
where as those opposed were killed or became slaves..

In todays society at least in the 1st World.. we are led to believe over all slavery does not exist..
But some people suggest being paid a pitence of a wage from a Job just to survive or make a living for 40 to 50 years..
that its just another partal slave like existance solution... but in reality we do not have that much freedom...

Although Hitler was opposed to the Jews and wanted to eliminate them.... why do you you think he wanted to Kill them... and not just use them as slaves ?  and could not that same mentality be being applied now (Maybe thru other reasons..not just ones religion or race..)

How anyone would want to manipulate millions of people is beyond me or my thought process / mental acceptance ?
it seem so demanding and time consuming... I am sure have MANY better things to want to consider in life rather than that as a hobby or job ??? ???

But maybe thats the way a set % of the population or their personalities  are ? ie that the severely Contolling / Bullying type.


Overall I am led to believe those with higher IQs tend to lead us, be it at Work or by Govt..
The strong clever ones are more likely to be able to make it in their own business.. one way or another if they opt to do so...that can offer them earning more money and lead to better lifes and more freedom..for them and their families..

Of course they have a very good idea of our IQ levels... you do IQ test at School ! they test it at age 11.. at least in the UK...and may do so more so today at other earier stages thru out childrens lifes today..

I dont think ones score.. is necessarily accurate.. as there many factors involved... from social background, parents / family size /ages , help.. famiy financial status... time given thru out life from the right sources..

and as one gets older and they more aware... I do believe one can improve ones IQ score... at least partly or for so long in there life.. more so if they are prepared to do the work and put the time in to improve it.. especialy today as they have maybe a lot more self help type books on doing such things on hw to do tests etc....

BUT if Alex Jones is Right.. he claims our Diets are designed to reduce our IQ... deliberately and those in Power want us controlled to a certain level...

As in my Opinion this seems what Life is all about... or to do with Mental Strength / personality maybe more than Physical strength in todays more moderns technology type society...where as in the past  physical strength was the major factor for survival...

It also be restriced by biological brain size developement....that you cannot alter...such as head width size..
or certain parts of the head brain in how that develop...

There are theories about persons head width size  with for some reason as to how wider heads tend to remember thing better over all..or that the distance between ones eyes....your frontal lobes..may have more capacity .who tend to be more leader types.. ie supervisors, manager types..... is this just due to having been brought up on a good diet or of ones mother breast size and if she milk feeds  her children...?  :) if breast or bottle fed ..some may suggest breat fed is better....or is..luck of the draw ...

Does having a bigger head overall suggest a larger brain capacity / relative to their body size?  (On average) It dont always suggest that they any cleverer than smaller headed person in some smaller head people can be very clever by far...

but over all in Life people seem to be more of the leader / controllers...types..

and some are more visual and some audial/ verbally or caring type natured / personality orientated...so it is all rather complex...


Ok Bill Gates aganda may appear to have alter conditions for Africans in certain ways BUT DO NOT FORGET he is also involving Population Control.... and thats one of the main Issues people who have against him or his agenda as its suggested he aims to do this to the rest of the world...or even  1st world countries ..


In ref to Vernon Coleman... I think he has still touched on certain topics that maybe be of further interest that maybe worth checking out further...at least for now....


Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 05:26:06 PM
If it's not money then it could be power, so if they do not have anyone to boss around they would have nothing to do. What do you think gives more pleasure to a power mad person, ordering around 10 people or 10 million?
There's no fun in ordering around a robot. :)
And robots do not do most of people's work, not by far.
No, correcting the problems would help their cause without the side effect of not having people to do their work.
That's why some people like Bill Gates are promoting better living conditions for the poor countries, as has been noticed for a long time that better conditions result in lower birth rates.
That would be silly, as there's no way of knowing who has a higher IQ without making a test, besides the fact that a high IQ may be useless in real life.
He just looks like someone that gives too much importance to his own ideas, based on bad information, so I will not give much importance to what he says.

astr0144

No doubt there are many various situations that people face...

but sometimes we may become aware of some suggestion and maybe assocaite it with something that later occurs and wonder if its related...

I still say its VERY hard to know to do or think about certain situations in to what you may think you come to know or become aware about and if you should tell certain people about it if you thin its a threat to them..

Its the same with what Shasta says below..

you ask what if you get it wrong ! or was misinformed...but also what if you were right !

something things are just too hard to feel you know in enough valid detail.


Quote from: ArMaP on July 23, 2020, 02:09:54 PM
My late boss, besides being a diabetic, was a healthy man, and because he was a diabetic he had regular exams. On November 2016 he started complaining about pain in one leg and in the back. In January, after many exams, they found out that he had cancer, spread all over his body, and the pain came from the fact that the bones were already affected. He died in February.

This is just to show that dying of cancer in six months is not that rare, people die of cancer in less than that.

Shasta
QuoteIf they come up with a proven vaccine, I will probably take it.  My grandchildren have drilled it into my head that I'm not allowed to die, so if I contracted COVID and died because I didn't get vaccinated, they would probably hold a seance to bring back my spirit and yell at me.




kevin

Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.

Will You take the mandatory vaccine?

Will You comply?

This is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.

Will You comply to becoming a thing?

There will be no governments or politicians.

The virus is a cover, the BLM movement a distraction.

The police are today warning people that if they don't wear their masks they will be fined, and the fine will increase each time they don't wear a mask, then it will be the vaccine where You will be fined if You don't COMPLY and have it, You will be confined and isolated.

This isn't a test run, this is a global take over, China has been a test run, to establish technocracy, the eugenics shites will sterilise anyone deemed sub standerd.

The useless eaters will be culled.

WE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.

Kevin

astr0144

Kev,

I asked similar question to you, but not sure I got a clear answer.....

So far I have not worn one... but do fear what could be going in the way as you describe...and certainly do not count it out...

BUT the way things have gone so far and seeing how masses of people at ALL levels... are having to go along with it...
there plan and power abilities are too strong a force for any individual to oppose...

I am very well aware of how Govts and Police can increase fines.... having seen egs of some going from 35 GBP to over 500 GBPs  or maybe even over 1000 GBP or more  for those who continued to not pay...even for very simple parking fines.. or not placing a parking permit in ones car window screen...

Even Councils who work in relation to Govts act for them... and so do the Police..

In the USA if things get out of hand... Those with Guns may back up in large groups...people who become under attack from the system..to aid to back them up...but in the UK we dont have this in as a more obvious way...

What we are seeing is no doubt a major concern...
Authorities and Police in this Country now can be or are are very disturbingly...frightening....

and to top it off I  would not count out a major stock market collapse...that will create even more devisation...

so far we have been VERY lucky the markets recovered....but I am doubtful that will continue if the markets dont break to newer highs than those made In February 2020 for the USA Inices like the Dow Jones / S&P500 index...
(The US markets generally dictate what the other countries markets do)


Can I ask what you would advise ? in terms of should we comply or not ? or wear a mask...
Ways around it is to shop online if you can...as one eg....
but some shops I believe are still allowing non mask wearers in.
and in certain cases you probably will get away with it...
the first month we need to try to pre prepaired as best you could for the next month or so...and wait to see how start to go...and if things change for the better or get even worse...

Those who oppose or disbelieve all this I am sure will do what they can to try to find ways around the isses but.. it only maybe a matter of so much time..

lastly wearing a mask for short periods is not as yet the end of ones world... but thats not to say its not a start to it..

What do you make of the BLM ?

Do you see it as a George Sorus Plan as Alex Jones has suggested ? or something else ?
and what do you see their aim.. and the big question   WHY ?

whats it all about ?
Is it a race take over  for them to try to take white Women...or interracially mix which we are now seeing one quite a large scale....they seem to be able to attract white Women...but those women risk deleting there own race..

or just an equal rights for jobs etc ?
are they trying to reduce the White male race ?

In ref to taking vaccines... Its not something I would like to consider....

what happens later on if and when they apply it... and if you then get autjorities and group masses investigating individuals or snooping to find out if one has had there dose...

then life will seem an utter nightmare and may come to an end...

is there any way out on Prison Planet ?   Are there any places left on Earth worth trying to disappear to whee you wont be pestered or good Aliens out there to take us elsewhere ?


Listening further to that Vernon Coleman video... he does seem to be making some questionable points..
and coming from a Doctor ...who you would believe quite highly knowledgable than most...again those who question what going on...makes you further wonder..

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.

Will You take the mandatory vaccine?

Will You comply?

This is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.

Will You comply to becoming a thing?

There will be no governments or politicians.

The virus is a cover, the BLM movement a distraction.

The police are today warning people that if they don't wear their masks they will be fined, and the fine will increase each time they don't wear a mask, then it will be the vaccine where You will be fined if You don't COMPLY and have it, You will be confined and isolated.

This isn't a test run, this is a global take over, China has been a test run, to establish technocracy, the eugenics shites will sterilise anyone deemed sub standerd.

The useless eaters will be culled.

WE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.

Kevin

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 05:58:02 PM
Although Hitler was opposed to the Jews and wanted to eliminate them.... why do you you think he wanted to Kill them... and not just use them as slaves ?  and could not that same mentality be being applied now (Maybe thru other reasons..not just ones religion or race..)
Hitler and the Nazis wanted, like many other people in Germany and in other European countries, get rid of the Jews because they saw in them a kind of a state within the state, and they thought they had too much power, that came to them through the money they handled, as many Jews were bankers, something that came from the Middle Ages, when Christians thought that it was bad for Christians to own banks, letting that work for the Jews, which didn't have that problem in their religion.

One of the ideas was to remove all Jews from Germany and send them to some African country, but they finally decided that it was easier (and probably cheaper) to just kill them, along with other undesirables like Gypsies and homosexuals.

QuoteHow anyone would want to manipulate millions of people is beyond me or my thought process / mental acceptance ?
it seem so demanding and time consuming... I am sure have MANY better things to want to consider in life rather than that as a hobby or job ??? ???
That's the whole idea behind the existence of some kind of world government that controls everything and everyone.

QuoteOverall I am led to believe those with higher IQs tend to lead us, be it at Work or by Govt..
The strong clever ones are more likely to be able to make it in their own business.. one way or another if they opt to do so...that can offer them earning more money and lead to better lifes and more freedom..for them and their families..
That's wrong, high IQs are not related to being leaders, high IQs go relatively unnoticed, as people do not have (usually) opportunities to use it. Also, a higher IQ doesn't mean that person is more capable of solving problem in real life, IQ measuring is subjective.

QuoteOf course they have a very good idea of our IQ levels... you do IQ test at School ! they test it at age 11.. at least in the UK...and may do so more so today at other earier stages thru out childrens lifes today..
I didn't know that, we don't do them in Portugal (as far as I know). Also, that would be useless, as an high IQ in children do not translate to a high IQ in adult.

QuoteI dont think ones score.. is necessarily accurate.. as there many factors involved... from social background, parents / family size /ages , help.. famiy financial status... time given thru out life from the right sources..
Mostly, IQ tests are useless in real life.

QuoteBUT if Alex Jones is Right.. he claims our Diets are designed to reduce our IQ... deliberately and those in Power want us controlled to a certain level...
How can anyone control what we eat? Our diets are chosen by ourselves, not by the government (or by Alex Jones, that is always trying to sell his "supplements").

Now, as a kind of PS to the above, let me tell you that I think you shouldn't give that much importance to Alex Jones (or anyone else). From what you have posted here it's clear that you are an inquisitive and intelligent person, even if you lack knowledge in some areas.
Seeing an intelligent person giving so much weight to someone else's opinions is something that I think is a shame, as you are intelligent enough to have your own opinion without being led by someone else, so I suggest you just use Alex Jones to find topics you like but then do your own research instead of accepting what he says.

QuoteIt also be restriced by biological brain size developement....that you cannot alter...such as head width size..
or certain parts of the head brain in how that develop...
Brain size is not related to intelligence, even people with some areas of the brain damaged can have a normal intelligence.

QuoteThere are theories about persons head width size  with for some reason as to how wider heads tend to remember thing better over all..or that the distance between ones eyes....your frontal lobes..may have more capacity .who tend to be more leader types.. ie supervisors, manager types..... is this just due to having been brought up on a good diet or of ones mother breast size and if she milk feeds  her children...?  :) if breast or bottle fed ..some may suggest breat fed is better....or is..luck of the draw ...
Those people got to be leaders more likely because other people look at them and see them as a leader type and accept what they say instead of thinking for themselves. Most people are too lazy to try to be a leader (I know I am :D), so they accept anyone else that appears to want to be one.

One thing that affects intelligence is a bad/insufficient food while growing up, so people from very poor families have a natural (or artificial, seeing that was dictated by external factors) tendency to be less intelligent and so to have lower paying jobs, leading to their children to have lower intelligence than they could if they had a good living while growing up.

QuoteOk Bill Gates aganda may appear to have alter conditions for Africans in certain ways BUT DO NOT FORGET he is also involving Population Control.... and thats one of the main Issues people who have against him or his agenda as its suggested he aims to do this to the rest of the world...or even  1st world countries ..
Population control through a better life, resulting in a lower birth rate in those poor countries. Many 1st World countries (and almost all European countries) are seeing too low birth rates, so they do not need any more population control, any more would result in, once more, lack of people to pay taxes and keeping the countries working.

QuoteIn ref to Vernon Coleman... I think he has still touched on certain topics that maybe be of further interest that maybe worth checking out further...at least for now....
No problems in checking things out, just don't accept what anyone says (me included ;) ) without analysing it yourself. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.
I always find it funny when people act as if words sound similar for some special reason and ignore the origin of those words.  ::)

QuoteThis is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.
Judging from your posts it looks like you have your own agenda, and that's spreading panic your own way.

QuoteWE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.
By what, robots? Robots don't pay taxes.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
Is it a race take over  for them to try to take white Women...or interracially mix which we are now seeing one quite a large scale....they seem to be able to attract white Women...but those women risk deleting there own race..
So do the black man doing it, as their children would be neither black or white, right? :)