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NASA changes ENTIRE zodiac forecast

Started by astr0144, July 16, 2020, 04:26:17 PM

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astr0144

NASA changes ENTIRE zodiac forecast.

Whats NASA upto ?

They claim that the Earths Tilt (or a shift of the earth's rotational axis) has now changed and the Star signs of the Zodiac as we were led to believe... have now changed their position...  So they have now altered the Zodiac and added a new star sign... known as Ophiuchus



CAN THEY PROVE THE TILT OF THE EARTH To US... I wonder ? or is this another type of Scam ? to use as another talk point during Covid issues...

and if the Earths Tilt has changed.... How it effecting the Planet Now ? for good or bad ?

So they claim many of us have now changed our birth Zodiac sign.. maybe to the ones either side depending what time of month you were born... or to the new sign if you were Born close to that on either side..

13 star signs and their dates if Ophiuchus exists



Capricorn – was December 22 to January 20 but is now believed to be January 20 to February 16

Aquarius – was January 21 to February 18 but is now believed to be February 16 to March 11

Pisces – was February 19 to March 20 but is now believed to be March 11 to April 18

Aries – was March 21 to April 20 but is now believed to be April 18 to May 13

Taurus – was April 21 to May 21 but is now believed to be May 13 to June 21

Gemini – was May 22 to June 21 but is now believed to be June 21 to July 20

Cancer – was June 22 to July 22 but is now believed to be July 20 to August 10

Leo – was July 23 to August 23 but is now believed to be August 10 to September 16

Virgo – was August 24 to September 22 but is now believed to be September 16 to October 30

Libra – was September 23 to October 23 but is now believed to be October 30 to November 23

Scorpio – was October 24 to November 22 but is now believed to be November 23 to November 29

Ophiuchus – believed to be November 29 to December 17

Sagittarius – was November 23 to December 21 but is now believed to be December 17 to January 20

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/real-life/you-ophiuchus-nasas-13th-star-22357636

Why is there a new star sign? NASA changes ENTIRE zodiac forecast
STAR sign update rumours have swirled today, as a once forgotten NASA blog has resurfaced and ignited discussions about personal horoscopes. Why is there a new star sign?
By Liam Doyle
PUBLISHED: 07:45, Thu, Jul 16, 2020 | UPDATED: 07:46, Thu, Jul 16, 2020

Star signs dreamt up by Babylonioan scholars thousands of years ago fit it neatly with the 12-month calendar, and have not deviated from this since. The zodiac has a counterpart in observed constellations, of which many signs share a name. A resurfaced NASA blog has seen the 13th "sign" shoot back into the mainstream nearly a decade after its publication.
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Why is there a new star sign?

The internet is rife with speculation NASA has introduced a new star sign named Ophiuchus.

The "serpent bearer" is supposedly the 13th in the horoscope, and has caused a stir amongst the general public.

Ophiuchus occupies the dates between November 29 and December 18, leading some people to believe they have a new star sign.



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The resulting confusion triggered a trend on social media today, but the "sign" actually came into prominence nearly a decade ago.

NASA introduced the constellation in 2011 via a blog post in which they explained the different star clusters visible on the ecliptic.

When Babylonian scholars formed the zodiac and documented various constellations - collections of stars visible from the earth - they split them into 12.

At the time, roughly 3,000 years ago, they neatly fitted them in with their 12-month calendar.

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Star sign update: Babylonian astronomy discovered the constellations and Ophiuchus (Image: GETTY)

In doing so, however, they left out Ophiuchus, the 13th constellation.

While people have conflated it with astrology, Ophiuchus is an entirely scientific presence.

Astrology divides the ecliptic into 12 sections for the horoscope, each visible within a 30-degree angle.

As such, they fit in with the calendar and provide jumping-off points for solstices and equinoxes.


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Constellations, which astronomers locate via observatories, occupy the same area unevenly, so they don't directly correspond with the horoscope.

The uneven cohabitation has lead the dates of the horoscope to clash with those of the constellations.

If Ophiuchus occupied the horoscope, it would displace much of Sagittarius, which runs from November 23 to December 21.

Other constellations also clash with their horoscope counterparts, such as Pisces, which now takes up parts of Aquarius.


The reason for this is a process known as the precession of the equinoxes.

When ancient scholars observed the constellations and formed the zodiac, they did so using the stars visible from their perspective.

Once they set the star's patterns in stone and gave them dates, they stuck for the horoscope alone, as their positions have changed in the last three millennia.

The precession of the equinoxes refers to a gradual shift of the earth's rotational axis, giving the planet a different orientation while stars remain fixed in place.

These changes mean the constellations now occupy different parts of the night's sky than they would three millennia ago.


ArMaP

Old news.

And NASA cannot change something that doesn't really exist, the zodiac is just an interpretation of the positions of the constellations, almost all of them also just an interpretation of the relative positions of the stars and galaxies as seen from the Earth's point of view.

astr0144

I must have missed any prior PRC posts on this if its Old News..

On a quick search the other day if I recall I think I found only maybe one or two articles that referred to the new Zodiac sign...maybe as far back as 2013 which does surprise me..

as I thought this was new news by Nasa..

It does also surprise me that NASA would make any ref to the Zodiac and its Star signs..

But again HOW much alteration has the Earths axis / tilt  Had,  if they are making some ref to it I wonder ?


Quote from: ArMaP on July 16, 2020, 10:11:19 PM
Old news.

And NASA cannot change something that doesn't really exist, the zodiac is just an interpretation of the positions of the constellations, almost all of them also just an interpretation of the relative positions of the stars and galaxies as seen from the Earth's point of view.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 04:07:38 PM
But again HOW much alteration has the Earths axis / tilt  Had,  if they are making some ref to it I wonder ?
It's not really a change in tilt of the axis but a change in the direction the axis points, as the Earth, like a top spinning with a tilt, has a kind of secondary rotation that makes the axis move around and point in different directions. That's also why the North Star changes with time.

kevin

Jesus had twelve disciples.
Add Him in and that equals 13.

Maybe He is coming back from galatic central?

Kevin

astr0144

#5
So you dont think its to do with the 23 Degree tilt altering its angle..

Is it to do with whats known as the Precession of the Equinox..

Like a wobble of the Earth like how a spinning top may act as it goes out of control....

which according to something I found suggest it occurs over about every 26,000 years






Quote from: ArMaP on July 18, 2020, 06:19:27 PM
It's not really a change in tilt of the axis but a change in the direction the axis points, as the Earth, like a top spinning with a tilt, has a kind of secondary rotation that makes the axis move around and point in different directions. That's also why the North Star changes with time.


Not considered that one before Kev !

QuoteJesus had twelve disciples.
Add Him in and that equals 13.

Maybe He is coming back from galatic central?

Kevin

ArMaP

We use 12 months in our calendar and 24 hours (2 x 12) in each day. Does that mean something?

Yes, it means that in antiquity some civilisations had a base 12 numbering system, like the Babylonians.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 07:40:35 PM
So you dont think its to do with the 23 Degree tilt altering its angle..
No, if that had happened many people would have noticed it, as the positions of all the stars would have changed too, so all star catalogues would be useless.

astr0144

Maybe but it depend by how much..

Maybe you did not also notice my other suggestion in ref to


Is it to do with whats known as the Precession of the Equinox..

Like a wobble of the Earth like how a spinning top may act as it goes out of control....

which according to something I found suggest it occurs over about every 26,000 years



Quote from: ArMaP on July 18, 2020, 07:43:02 PM
No, if that had happened many people would have noticed it, as the positions of all the stars would have changed too, so all star catalogues would be useless.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 07:47:33 PM
Maybe but it depend by how much..
Obviously, but if it didn't change enough for it to be noticeable then it didn't change enough for the Zodiac to change, right? :)

QuoteMaybe you did not also notice my other suggestion in ref to


Is it to do with whats known as the Precession of the Equinox..
I did, but that's what I had already said. :)

The quotes on your original post already said it too.

astr0144

That depends if you believe NASAs suggestion about the Zodiac which I thought that you did not have any belief in or maybe thought that NASA were unlikely to do so..

IF the Earth was to tilt.. by a set % to the 23 degree existing tilt or via Progression of Equinox..
I suspect it could be having effects on the Weather...or Climate..

or is this part of the NWO that want to make out this could be part of Climate Change..as some Some suggest NASA is part of the Govt or NWO...

SO was you referring to Progression of Equinox  that was shown in the image ? ie that type of thing..

As I did not really know for sure if thats what you were referring to..

Quote from: ArMaP on July 18, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Obviously, but if it didn't change enough for it to be noticeable then it didn't change enough for the Zodiac to change, right? :)
I did, but that's what I had already said. :)

The quotes on your original post already said it too.

ArMaP

First of all, I don't care if something is presented as being from NASA or not when we're talking about things that we just have to look up to see. :)

And yes, I was talking about precession of the equinox, as that's the one responsible for the apparent change in position of the constellations in relation to the Sun.

astr0144

Thanks for Clarifying that you referred to precession of the equinox..

At least I now think I have a beter understanding what you were trying to refer to...

HOWEVER....

In further ref to what you say in this post .... Dont Care what NASA may or may not be suggesting and in relation to what you and hopefully all of us can presently see..

WELL..... IMO

We have been on this Planet maybe under 60 / 70 years ... NASAs not been around more than 100 yrs..As far as I am aware..

and for something that may take 26,000 years to occur...

I do NOT believe that any of us would have Noticed anything alter in our lifetime spans....

So What could they be suggesting if it is their (NASAs) statement I wonder....

What could they be indicating by it.... and I would agree.... theres NO way that the Constellations or Earth tilt or AXIS has altered in any such a way... to then suggest adding in a NEW Zodiac sign...

Where is all the Astronomers when you need them to question this ??? I wonder

Will we see them question NASA or who ever ?  ???


Quote from: ArMaP on July 18, 2020, 09:35:13 PM
First of all, I don't care if something is presented as being from NASA or not when we're talking about things that we just have to look up to see. :)

And yes, I was talking about precession of the equinox, as that's the one responsible for the apparent change in position of the constellations in relation to the Sun.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 09:51:49 PM
We have been on this Planet maybe under 60 / 70 years ... NASAs not been around more than 100 yrs..As far as I am aware..
I am 57 years old, NASA is 61 years old, the previous "version", NACA, was active between 1915 and 1958, when NASA replaced it.

Quoteand for something that may take 26,000 years to occur...

I do NOT believe that any of us would have Noticed anything alter in our lifetime spans....
Correct.

QuoteSo What could they be suggesting if it is their (NASAs) statement I wonder....

What could they be indicating by it.... and I would agree.... theres NO way that the Constellations or Earth tilt or AXIS has altered in any such a way... to then suggest adding in a NEW Zodiac sign...
When I said this is old news I should have said "very old news", as that's been known for centuries.

The Wikipedia article about Ophiuchus in astrology explains it better than I. :)

The fact is that, naturally, precession of the equinox has been known for centuries, as the sky charts have been noticed to change with the passing of time.

So, this 20th century idea of adding one or two signs to the Zodiac is something that could have been done before, but it's meaningless for those outside astrology, as it makes no difference to the real positions of the stars/constellations.

astr0144

#14
I accept that the precession of the equinox has been known for many years...but having said that ..
only since things were able to be recorded in some detailed valid way... as each lifetime... people would not notice any changes...   Only if you read or obtained past recorded information about things would you become aware..
and little communication may had been available to the masses maybe prior to 100 years ago...
when we had only some books and news...  I doubt it was mentioned at any education / school.. or only those who may had referred to Science related things..

So to me this is appearing as if its being made out to be something relatively  new...
and that they may actually be intending to alter the Zodiac possibly even for those who read their horoscopes...

If its been known for many years prior , even this century... Why did they Not add in the new Zodiac sign before now..

Its very much doubted that NASA would really have anything to do with such a thing.. and its only the media or whoever
now creating something different to the many who do happen to take note of their Horoscopes..


The weird thing also... could be .... some people really do claim to use Astrology in various ways...

Its hard to say exactly how...

BUT I am aware of some Financial experts who use it to determine the Stock Market moves..

Its more probably more based on Astronomy rather than Astrology... as  they base a lot of it on Planet Movements.. espeically from Jupiter and Saturn.... as they orbit the Sun at various points.. such as at 90 and 180 , 270 , 360 degrees...or like quarter and half orbit positions of the planets LONG times time frames to revolve around the Sun..

but some do also include Zodiac Constellations as well as to what area in the Sky a planet may be..

Puting an extra Constellation in the Sky for these people may complicate things..

But they probably are aware... adding an extra sign ... can be ignored... as they used to just refer to 12 main area parts of the Sky... in which they split the Hemisphere Horizon into..



Quote
When I said this is old news I should have said "very old news", as that's been known for centuries.

The Wikipedia article about Ophiuchus in astrology explains it better than I. :)

The fact is that, naturally, precession of the equinox has been known for centuries, as the sky charts have been noticed to change with the passing of time.

So, this 20th century idea of adding one or two signs to the Zodiac is something that could have been done before, but it's meaningless for those outside astrology, as it makes no difference to the real positions of the stars/constellation