Do Pegasus members still support Donald Trump?

[petrus4]

Over the last two days, I've heard reports about Donald Trump referring to Marines who fought during World War One as losers and suckers.  This has apparently, and predictably, done enormous damage to the President's level of electoral support among the American military.

I wanted to ask, how do the members of this forum feel towards Trump at this point?  Apparently he has also been trying to undermine the American postal service in order to prevent remote voting, and has also twice asked his supporters to vote more than once, which is a felony in many states.

My own view of Trump used to be largely neutral; neither for, nor against.  Yet recently, as a result of learning about not only his apparently anti-democratic actions, but also his constant self-humiliation on Twitter, my opinion has gradually become less favourable.  I had heard a lot of talk online about him possibly attempting a coup in November; and as a result, his comments about the military have caused a sense of relief, because the fact that he has now presumably alienated them, means that he no longer would have the support of the one group whose help he would really need, to make a coup attempt successful.

I don't know much about Joe Biden.  Aside from presenting himself as a family man, (which the Lincoln Project has been helping him with) his election campaign seems to be mainly focused on responding to Trump's misdeeds, rather than talking about his own policies.  I will also admit that putting emphasis on family doesn't impress me; partly because of my own experience with my immediate family, but partly also because I am aware that that is an image which virtually any psychopath with political ambitions attempts to cultivate.

Although I don't live in America, based on what I've been seeing on YouTube, if I was an American voter, I think the one thing I'd want to see from Biden, would be an action plan for fixing the country's domestic civil infrastructure; the highway network, ports, and bridges, among other things.  Most of that was apparently built just after the Second World War, and it largely hasn't been maintained since, because later Presidents have put most of the budget into the military.

I think the country is in deep trouble at this point, though; and although he hasn't made any really convincing noises about being able to, I hope to an extent Biden is able to fix it.

[08rubicon]

Petrus, I do not believe that Trump said that. However, even if all the media said about him was true, he is still a better
choice than Biden and the democrats. I am voting for Trump.

[ArMaP]

I wanted to ask, how do the members of this forum feel towards Trump at this point?

The same I did when he first ran for president: he is a narcissistic man that is less intelligent than he thinks and, because of that, is a good candidate to keep things as they have been and, probably, as projected by those that really rule the US.

Apparently he has also been trying to undermine the American postal service in order to prevent remote voting, and has also twice asked his supporters to vote more than once, which is a felony in many states.

Apparently, but maybe the postal service is one of those things that need revampimg.

I had heard a lot of talk online about him possibly attempting a coup in November; and as a result, his comments about the military have caused a sense of relief, because the fact that he has now presumably alienated them, means that he no longer would have the support of the one group whose help he would really need, to make a coup attempt successful.

Like those comments that said that Obama was going to declare martial law to stop the election? Those are getting predictable.

I don't know much about Joe Biden.

To me he looks like the perfect candidate to lose the election, and that's why he was chosen.

[petrus4]

To me he looks like the perfect candidate to lose the election, and that's why he was chosen.

I fear that America is going to become a genuine war zone if that happens.  We've already had a taste of it in Portland and Kenosha.  Burn Loot Murder vs. the urban migration of the Rust Belt.

FIGHT!!!

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

As my good friend, Zorgon told me once, it's not so much Pro Trump, he was anti Demoncrats as he put them, but I call them DemoRATS.

[Ellirium113]

Over the last two days, I've heard reports about Donald Trump referring to Marines who fought during World War One as losers and suckers.  This has apparently, and predictably, done enormous damage to the President's level of electoral support among the American military.

When have you ever heard a good report from lamestream media about Trump? Every time he opens his mouth they twist his words or make up things so I just see it as another smear campaign among the many hundreds that came before. It's definitely confirmed hearsay.    I can see him Calling McCain names as McCain tried hard to sink Trumps presidency. Whether you like Trump or not, no one else is standing up to run except "Schmuck A" or "Moron B". Is there not one qualified individual with common sense they can find among millions to run as the president?

[petrus4]

The same I did when he first ran for president: he is a narcissistic man that is less intelligent than he thinks and, because of that, is a good candidate to keep things as they have been and, probably, as projected by those that really rule the US.

Assuming that Trump is the desired candidate of the powers that be, Armap; can you explain why the "losers and suckers," comments about the military have been promoted to repeatedly by the mainstream media? 

I can understand the people behind the curtain potentially being unable to prevent that leak, but why would they want to promote it?  Those comments being attributed to Trump and so widely publicised, must have now almost completely destroyed his credibility with the military; and given that America is a country which reveres its' armed forces so highly, has likely done a lot of damage to his reputation even among civilians as well.

[Ellirium113]

Jeffrey Goldberg Accused of Lifting Trump's "Losers" Quote From End of Godfather II

Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg has been accused of lifting President Trump's "losers" quote from the ending of the movie Godfather II.

Goldberg claimed, citing four anonymous sources, that Trump had referred to Americans who died in battle as "losers" and "suckers," but the veracity of this was challenged by numerous people, including former White House national security adviser John Bolton.

The Biden campaign has exploited the allegation to undermine Trump's support amongst veterans.

https://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html

Trump has repeatedly and rightfully called out the extremely biased news media as being "Fake News" and they never let a an opportunity pass to try to discredit, blame or twist anything Trump says or does. This has been the norm even BEFORE the election.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Jeffrey Goldberg Accused of Lifting Trump's "Losers" Quote From End of Godfather IIhttps://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html

Trump has repeatedly and rightfully called out the extremely biased news media as being "Fake News" and they never let a an opportunity pass to try to discredit, blame or twist anything Trump says or does. This has been the norm even BEFORE the election.

if you think it's bad now in the states, wait till he WINS!...It will be a never-ending "anonymous" accusations from un-named sources merry-go-round.
 

[Ellirium113]

I fear it will be much worse than that.

[ArMaP]

Assuming that Trump is the desired candidate of the powers that be, Armap; can you explain why the "losers and suckers," comments about the military have been promoted to repeatedly by the mainstream media?

To increase the division of the American people.

It's easier to control a divide people, so if they divide them on all main fronts (politics, religion, race and military) they will have much less work doing what they want, as people will be too fixated on those (artificially augmented) problems to look at the real ones.

[Shasta56]

I never did, and that hasn't changed.

[petrus4]

people will be too fixated on those (artificially augmented) problems to look at the real ones.

Do you think this will continue to be effective indefinitely?

[ArMaP]

Do you think this will continue to be effective indefinitely?

If well (from their point of view) played, almost.

But it has to be an interactive thing, they cannot just expect that everything goes according to plan, there's always the possibility of someone with charisma appearing and starting pointing to things and to make people think.

[spacemaverick]

I have yet to see and hear a video anywhere that Trump said that about the military.  He did say he hoped that the generals were with him.  He supports the troops.  I think what he did say was something that took and underhanded jab at generals retiring and joining defense contractors because of their ties to those contractors during the time generals were on active duty.  Remember the Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex?  He made reference to that during a media briefing in a subtle way.