Panspermia and possible life on Earth created from water found on a meteorite

Started by astr0144, January 29, 2022, 10:42:38 PM

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astr0144

I watched a Ancient Aliens TV program episode the other day titled "They Came From the Sea'

Part of it showed something that may have confirmed the reality of some of the past discussion that we have refered to in some past threads that related to the theory of Panspermia.

which suggest that life on Earth could have been brought or started from objects coming from space and landing on the planet.





I dont think that we ever found to having come across any actual suggested proof.
unless anyone can recall differently.

The A.As program... has showed what seems to suggest proof that a meteroite landed on Earth and contained salt and actual water... along with Aminio Acids... that Could have sparked Life on earth.

As far as I know this is the 1st time its actualy been suggested. ie water actually travelling thru space in some form outside any spacecraft and landing on Earth.

Unfortunately I cannot find a copy of the Ancient Aliens Video to refer to.

But I have obtained some details of the Scientist involved who was discussing and showing A.A's Giorgio Tsoukalos
details about it.   The Scientists is called Dr Queenie Chan.





Closer to finding ALIEN LIFE? Scientists discover WATER on ancient meteorites


https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/903012/Alien-life-meteorites-Zag-Monahans-water-amino-acids-Queenie-Chan

Closer to finding ALIEN LIFE? Scientists discover WATER on ancient meteorites


Water and organic compounds have been found on two anicent meteorites
Researchers have discovered organic compounds on two meteorites

QuoteGIANT meteorite seen falling to earth

The compounds which are vital to support life were found on two meteorites which are approximately 4.5 billion years old and the same age as the Earth.

While the new discovery does not mean the meteorites ever contained life it may point as to how extraterrestrial life may be present elsewhere in the universe.

The meteorites, named Zag and Monahans, are said to have originated from the asteroid belt, between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.

They were first examined when they fell to Earth in Morocco and Texas in 1998 and were found to contain liquid water.

Water and organic compounds have been found on two anicent meteorites
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Researchers have discovered organic compounds on two meteorites

At the time though the technology did not exist to detect tiny amounts of amino acids.

But with the development of powerful spectrometers and ion beams, researchers have examined the rocks again and been able to analyse the salt crystals that were found in both rocks.

The finding was made by an international team of researchers, which included scientists from the Open University (OU) in the UK and Nasa's Johnson Space Centre in Texas.

The study's lead author Dr Queenie Chan, a postdoctoral researcher at the UK's Open University, said: "We collected the tiny salt crystals from the meteorites and dissolved them in water so that we could extract the amino acids and separate any organic compounds to analyse them
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An Ingredient For Life In Our Solar System: Salt


https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/a-dash-of-salt-to-go-with-your-solar-system/

QuoteWhen meteorites fall to Earth they bring with them a taste of what's out there in our solar system. For example, two meteorites that landed in 1998, Monahans and Zag, were quite...salty. Each meteorite contained blue salt crystals that the asteroid had picked up along its violent trajectory towards Earth. Now, two decades later, scientists are able to determine where they might have come from and what events most likely brought them here. Queenie Chan, post-doctoral researcher at the Open University in Milton Keynes, United Kingdom, joins Ira to discuss what the discovery tells us about the building blocks of our solar system.











ArMaP

As far as I know, there isn't any theory that is even close to be considered as proven as to how life started on Earth.

For example, a meteorite may have brought amino acids to Earth, but that doesn't explain how they spread throughout Earth or how the meteorite got the amino acids.

In the same way, there isn't a clear explanation of how those amino acids and all the other ingredients necessary got together on Earth, although I think it's easier for that to happen on a planet than on a meteor, as a planet, with its greater gravity attracts more objects from where it can get other components than a meteor.

I suppose it will be one of those things that we will never be sure of how it happened.

astr0144

I seem to recall a few members used to make ref to the theory of Panspermia as to how life may have started on Earth... But at the time I dont think that there was any suggested evidence that such a thing may have occurred in reality to prove it could have been done.

Also I dont think they had evidence of water coming from Space.

BUT NOW as far as I understand...those articles or footage on the A.A TV program suggest that they have found
evidence of water within a landed Meteorite and also found aminio acids within it..

So that may well be some unique new evidence as to the possibilities that they have now found possible proof..
that such a thing may have occurred... which they never had previously.

SO... it could be a very unique find...

But I agree it does NOT prove as to how life started on Earth... its just a possible another theory.

I think it may had been suggested in the past... that Ice from Comets that passed close to Earth may have passed on to the Earth... but it maybe hard to think Ice would break thru the earths atmosphere.


Quote from: ArMaP on January 30, 2022, 01:08:46 AM
As far as I know, there isn't any theory that is even close to be considered as proven as to how life started on Earth.

For example, a meteorite may have brought amino acids to Earth, but that doesn't explain how they spread throughout Earth or how the meteorite got the amino acids.

In the same way, there isn't a clear explanation of how those amino acids and all the other ingredients necessary got together on Earth, although I think it's easier for that to happen on a planet than on a meteor, as a planet, with its greater gravity attracts more objects from where it can get other components than a meteor.

I suppose it will be one of those things that we will never be sure of how it happened.

ArMaP

I don't think comets and meteorites would be able to supply all the water we have on Earth, not only in liquid form but also as ice and water vapour.

I also don't see why we need an external source of water to explain the presence of water on Earth, if it could appear somewhere else why couldn't it happen here also? Why the need for "imported" water?

astr0144

Its hard to say How water arrived on the Earth.

It seem hard to believe it came from Comets or Meteors alone ... or that the Earth did not somehow create it during its evolvement of changes thru out its history.

But in terms of creation of Life on Earth... whether or not Aminio acids or what ever chemicals etc created life were naturally availaible on the planet to create life... I dont know the answer.

IF some of the things required were not naturally part of it... then maybe the only possibility maybe that those required substances arrived from space.

The other things that may be hard to determine... is like the variation of time and how the Earth may have altered.
From creation of the inner and outer cores   / cooling periods ... Volcanoes... to creation of the seas/ lakes etc to creation of the atmosphere...

and how elements may alter due to temperature changes from solids to liquids  to gases etc...from early on to now. Apart from most elements that we consider may had been available during the earths natural evolvement..
One main element required I believe was / is Carbon...

Whether also Aminio acids were required and where they naturally available... I dont know !
if they were... then yes there seems no need for any external substances to be required to spark the creation of Life.

The idea of an Alien species having created life on Earth could seem a possibility..
but we would question what created them as to where they evolved from...

This probably seems one of the biggest questions in Science .." How was Life Created ?"   !

Quote from: ArMaP on January 30, 2022, 04:43:45 PM
I don't think comets and meteorites would be able to supply all the water we have on Earth, not only in liquid form but also as ice and water vapour.

I also don't see why we need an external source of water to explain the presence of water on Earth, if it could appear somewhere else why couldn't it happen here also? Why the need for "imported" water?

Littleenki

Ironic how so many clamor for answers to how life or certain molecules and elements "got here".

The universe is alive, every single piece of it is made of the same things as the rest at some scalar level.

Every"thing" is alive.

Its just a matter of how the human mind perceives it in our case.

Water doesnt need to "come here", all the elements and energies to make it are here in ample amounts.

Earth is a apparent organic planet, based on what our human senses tell us, so it is just like any other planet. it just in a differing apparent state.

Modern "Science" is so off the rails, and the scienceheads are so drunk with hubris...just like the religidiots, who are so certain the millennias old systems of "belief" describe their everything.

Start thinking of the universe as a single "thing" and we will see that everything necessary for any of the continuity of it all is in every part of the whole all the time, what occurs is the so called separate elements relocate their 3d form, increase or decrease their density and transmutate into whatever is the Intention of the single center point of the All, the black hole to end all black holes.

Just my two cents and I could be completely wrong....

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