DNA a new look

[space otter]

  i had started to post this where only members could see it and then changed my mind  so if this is in error please put it elsewhere  ( i was looking at the new discovery heading - but thought this might let some newbies or oldbies want to speak up)


i think this may be worthy of a conversation


https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/health/human-pangenome-scn-wellness/index.html

Until now, geneticists have used a single human genome, largely based on one individual, as a standard reference map for the detection of genetic changes that cause disease. This has likely missed some of the genetic diversity between individuals and different populations around the world.

The new "pangenome" incorporates the DNA of 47 individuals from every continent except Antarctica and Oceania. The scientists involved say it will improve our ability to diagnose disease, discover new drugs and understand the genetic variants that lead to ill health or a particular physical trait.

[space otter]

when you read of how much they think they have figured out it also makes you think we just may be little characters in a matrix for sure.. do we really have any choices? or is it in our genes (stars)

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230412-the-mystery-of-the-human-genomes-dark-matter


When the 13-year-long effort to sequence the entire "book of life" encoded within the human genome was declared "complete" in April 2003, there were high expectations. It was hoped that the Human Genome Project, at a cost of around $3bn (£2.5bn), would yield treatments for chronic illnesses, and shed light on everything that is genetically determined about our lives.

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Now, two decades on, we have the first inklings of the role of the dark genome. Its primary function appears to be regulating the decoding process, or expression, of protein-making genes. It helps to control how our genes behave in response to all the environmental pressures our bodies face throughout our lives, ranging from diet to stress, pollution, exercise, and how much we sleep, a field known as epigenetics.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I think of course how our DNA is put together determines a lot, But how we are raised by our families plays a bigger role, IMO...

[space otter]

Hey Sarge
i agree that how you were raised has a lot to do with how you act and responde to life
but i think there is a lot more to it and i am interested in what these guys are coming up with

imo if you are a dog and raised by cats  you are still a dog  but with some interesting personality traits

the orignal dna stuff is not perfect and what was thought of as 'junk' dna was just an unknown
  that unknown is being investigated and while i don't think that is perfect or complete either i think it is a start

i am also of the opinion that the dna studies you can buy are a ploy (by whom ??  )to find certain folks with certain ??

[Littleenki]

I think of course how our DNA is put together determines a lot, But how we are raised by our families plays a bigger role, IMO...

Makes sense to me that we can possibly assume DNA is programmable, and as a child grows in a healthy environment, how they are being raised  programs the genetics to some degree.

Could DNA be a more complex version of AI?

Le

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I really, really don't care to ponder the point since I'm an old fart and set in my ways....

Of course living a life of my own and have wives and kids and the everyday problems seem to have an effect, but you really can't change who you are deep down inside.
At some point it all comes back to you.

Since my association with Zorgon, I've learn a lot about The Law Of Attraction!

[ArMaP]

I think of course how our DNA is put together determines a lot, But how we are raised by our families plays a bigger role, IMO...

The way we are raised influences behaviour, other things, like what we eat and our environment, influence the way our body develops.

That's why people that didn't had enough food when they were children tend to grow less than they should, among other things.

[ArMaP]

Could DNA be a more complex version of AI?

DNA is static, AI is active.

Although some people say that DNA is some kind of programming, it's more like a cake recipe than a program's code.

[space otter]

another view

https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-by-genes-or-environment-4120707

Is Personality Genetic or Environmental?
What matters more when it comes to personality, nature or nurture? Just how much does your DNA influence your personality? Researchers have spent decades studying family, twins, adopted children and foster families to better understand how much of personality is genetic and how much is environmental.
Both nature and nurture can play a role in personality, although large-scale twin studies suggest that there is a strong genetic component.3

While the exact degree varies depending on the trait, genetics does have an influence on personality. Twin and adoption studies indicate that human personality is around 30% to 60% heritable.4


This certainly does not mean that the environment does not play a role in shaping personality. Personality traits are complex, and research suggests that genetic and environmental factors shape traits.3 These two forces interact in various ways to form our individual personalities.

One of the best-known longitudinal studies looking at the heritability of personality characteristics, the Minnesota Study of Twins Reared Apart, has long been cited as evidence that traits are primarily inherited. However, one recent critique has called the results into question by noting that important data about the control group was excluded from publication.5

[Littleenki]

DNA is static, AI is active.

Although some people say that DNA is some kind of programming, it's more like a cake recipe than a program's code.

Well thats okay to ponder, but we dont know all about DNA yet, definitely not enough to claim it is "static", and the same folks tasked with telling us what to believe have not presented anything to convince me that there isnt something much deeper within our genetics that we have not discovered yet, not even close.

It may be highly possible DNA is a sentience within our physiology, so it could be a lot like AI where it learns and adapts to external influence, and just because scienceheads cant see it happen or comprehend how, does not mean it doesnt.

You know, kind of like believing or not in invisible beings that created mankind and  this planet in seven days.👽 Just because we dont see them doesnt mean they arent present and interacting with us, nor does it mean they are. We just havent tuned into that channel yet, well not all of us have yet...
Le

[space otter]

yeah ,, well. i've been looking more closely into the dna stuff since i found out the covid shot uses mrna in the vaccine..
maybe this is a stupid question but where did the rna come from ?.. or who did it come from?   can it be made in a lab?
so far i haven't had much luck trying to find an answer
but it seems to be the newest method of making vaccines...right now i don't like the idea
and am trying to quiet my brain when it asks   do i now have someone else's dna parts?


here's some readin if anyone is interested....and if anyone can give me the rna info i would great appreciate it.


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NanoAssemblr GMP mRNA Vaccine Demo



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What Makes an RNA Vaccine Different From a Conventional Vaccine?
Friday, October 7, 2022

https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/what_makes_an_rna_vaccine_different_from_a_conventional_vaccine?cid=ps_corp_pfizer-com-s1__rna%20vaccine__0223&ttype=ps&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoaaj_PL1_gIVkoNbCh07ZgGSEAAYAiAAEgKibfD_BwE

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The Science of mRNAModerna's mRNA platform
Our scientists are developing mRNA medicines to help prevent or treat diseas


https://www.modernatx.com/power-of-mrna/modernas-mrna-platform?tc=ps_au5z90q&cc=1001&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=bnd+corporate&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItYSj7_T1_gIVY-7jBx1VpQGpEAAYASABEgJbLvD_BwE

[space otter]

i may have found it.. i hope i am understanding it to say that they make it up..ah back to more researching

https://www.genome.gov/human-genome-project

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/messenger-rna#:~:text=Messenger%20RNA%20(abbreviated%20mRNA)%20is,during%20the%20process%20of%20transcription.


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Messenger RNA or mRNA. So mRNA really is a form of nucleic acid, which helps the human genome which is coded in DNA to be read by the cellular machinery. So we have DNA in our nuclei. And then we have ribosomes and other cellular organelles which translate DNA. But between the DNA code itself, and the machinery that uses DNA to make proteins, there has to be a translator. And mRNA is actually the translated form of DNA that the machinery can recognize and use to assemble amino acids into proteins. So this is really a fundamental link between what we think of as being the code of life and the actual cell being able to construct a living organism. And in that sense, although DNA gets discussed a lot more than RNA, mRNA is a really crucial piece of the fundamental way in which the living organism is created.

Shurjo Sen
Shurjo K. Sen, Ph.D.
Program Director

Division of Genome Sciences

[ArMaP]

Well thats okay to ponder, but we dont know all about DNA yet, definitely not enough to claim it is "static", and the same folks tasked with telling us what to believe have not presented anything to convince me that there isnt something much deeper within our genetics that we have not discovered yet, not even close.

"Static" was nor the best word, what I should have said was "passive", while AI is "active".

DNA works as a kind of "cast" from where other cells get their basic structure, DNA in itself does nothing.

It may be highly possible DNA is a sentience within our physiology, so it could be a lot like AI where it learns and adapts to external influence, and just because scienceheads cant see it happen or comprehend how, does not mean it doesnt.

I strongly doubt that, DNA is just a molecule.

[ArMaP]

yeah ,, well. i've been looking more closely into the dna stuff since i found out the covid shot uses mrna in the vaccine..

Some CoVID-19 vaccines use mRNA, not all.

[space otter]

Armap i did wonder about that but the covid shots i came across in my dna searches obviously mentioned the rna


another article  and hell i thought it was only seeds they were keeping there.




https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230509-how-genetics-determine-our-life-choices

How genetics determine our life choices

How much of our behaviour is pre-determined by our underlying biology?
IIn the subterranean depths of a granite building on the outskirts of Iceland's capital, Reykjavík, a robot is slowly and methodically shuffling the chilled blood of tens of thousands of people from all over the world.

What?!? where do they get this blood?  is it donated?

In the subterranean depths of a granite building on the outskirts of Iceland's capital, Reykjavík, a robot is slowly and methodically shuffling the chilled blood of tens of thousands of people from all over the world.

Down in this concrete chamber, a well-honed process is taking place. DNA is extracted from the samples and then fed into sequencing machines which slowly piece together the unique lines of chemical bases which form the basis of each individual's identity. Later on, artificial intelligence algorithms will connect this genetic code or genome with detailed information held in biobanks about their life – their diet, personality, relationship choices, hobbies, the diseases to which they ultimately succumbed - and search for links which scientists might deem statistically significant.

This particular concrete chamber is owned by an Icelandic company called deCODE genetics, which has sequenced more whole genomes – over 400,000 and counting – than any other institution in the world. Through this process it has made major contributions to understanding our inherited risk of Alzheimer's, schizophrenia, coronary artery disease, various forms of cancer, and many other chronic illnesses.


Rest of article at link

no way am i going to do one of those dna things..yikes