Disclosure, so where are we really at?

[Littleenki]

Weve all had ample chances to watch the videos and interviews of the latest round of whistleblowers, and enough time to let it all sink in.

Some say they are frauds, some say theyre heros, some say a little of both, but I havent seen a thread anywhere here or elsewhere that addresses how this all fits into the what Ill call slow rolled disclosure.

Many out there are micro-discussing elements of it and not the whole picture.

How does this all change your own perception of whats going on, and what is your thought on that?

Is this a distraction, a genuine set of circumstances, or the beginning of a new world order of UFO aware nations?

So where are we really at in disclosure?
And is it disclosure at all?

Cheers!
Le

[space otter]

Hi Le

how about old world order  trying to sweep enough emotions and distraction to make humanity more pliable to direction ?

i have just never thought inside the box of possiblities we seem to be given


i truly feel and believe that humans or whomsoever was inhabiting this planet were extremely advanced and either blew themselves up or another bad thing happened to them and humans had to start over and this is all the further we have gotten about the time that can be proven we will either redo the blowing up or be elsewhere in the universe..or still here but in another dimension...
we don't need aliens * humans can ruin it all by themselves 

[Littleenki]

Hi Le

how about old world order  trying to sweep enough emotions and distraction to make humanity more pliable to direction ?

i have just never thought inside the box of possiblities we seem to be given


i truly feel and believe that humans or whomsoever was inhabiting this planet were extremely advanced and either blew themselves up or another bad thing happened to them and humans had to start over and this is all the further we have gotten about the time that can be proven we will either redo the blowing up or be elsewhere in the universe..or still here but in another dimension...
we don't need aliens * humans can ruin it all by themselves 

It sure seems like the psyops are overtaking the hamfisted actions of those old world order characters, theyve found its easier to fry a brain than it is to commit genocide or spread "democracy"

Im certain there have been previous civilizations, some who were possibly more advanced than our own, then again airplanes and nuclear submarines dont mean advanced, they just assure you can blow someone up if they dont comply.

A truly advanced civilization would be more in touch with peace and nature, while working within those elements to ensure their entire society was able to live peacefully and fairly for all involved.

We sure dont have anything close to that today, so whats that say for us now?

As for the whistleblowers, it would appear they are being swept under the rug again as usual, and we will reset back to where they want us to be, blinders on, dumbed down and emotionally crippled from endless stress of all the psyops.

My take is, that if there are aliens working with us, coming here, or any of this, they will be non threatening, because thats civilized and logical.

Problem is our war hawk military cant resist shooting at anything that flies, except for chinese spy balloons, which they let cross the entire country before they do anything.

Maybe they were testing the waters with all of this excitement and new information, to see how receptive the UFO community still is to the possibility of actual disclosure.

They know that if they bury it under countless ridiculous news stories and political circle jerks, only the truly dedicated people researching UFOs will pay attention.

Will this time be different?

Time will tell.

Cheers!
Le

[Littleenki]

DJ setting the record straight on some things.

Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/live/ePyDqRdOJoA?feature=share

Le

[Littleenki]

Well I have always liked DJ's approach to things and found him to be very accurate in his rendering of an opinion based on what he knows and what he knows they will go through to convince the drones of whatever is the flase flag of the week.

Its becoming quite apparent the MSM allowed all of this "new" UFO revelations to be seen by normies. This is not some sudden decision to allow disclosure, it is a collossal distraction from the increasingly shameful level of criminal activity within our current dictatorship's regime.

And add in "Oh look at the submarine" ...which was the cherry on top of a cake with a whole box full of nail files baked into it.

So is Greer complicit or is he genuinely wanting to see real disclosure of factual evidence? Wouldnt that make his work instantly irrelevant?

And DJ says about Grusch what I have said from day one of seeing him...
The government telling on itself, by distracting us all to look away from the black ops. Standard "Fed" material...slap some khakis and raybans on him and send him out to meet the press...Patriot Front called they want their look back.

Yes there may be an entity that operates independent of all governmental oversight, and it has lost its way, but hiding the truth will be more damaging in the long run for whoever they are.

And yes some folks with high clearances like Grusch probably know about it.

Its called Black Rogue apparently.

But whistleblowing about it was doomed to fail, as it does everytime they trot it out to try to muddy the waters so we dont see what theyre doing beneath.

We are going to have to wait until actual aliens land their craft on the front lawn of the white house before any entity gives up their secrets, and even then if they are hostile, expect that the visit will already have been planned between they and our "leaders" with intent on doing something to civlization that will not be a desirable outcome for the vast majority of humans.

Anyone who is interested in this subject needs to watch that video linked above then come back here and tell me hes wrong...and why you think that way.

Then we can have a discussion on whats really happening with disclosure.

Cheers!
Le

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

So is Greer complicit or is he genuinely wanting to see real disclosure of factual evidence? Wouldnt that make his work instantly irrelevant?

That's how he makes his MONEY!!!!

[Littleenki]

That's how he makes his MONEY!!!!

Its funny since this latest forum he had, I had subbed on youtube to Greer...
and the exact same promises and methodology he employed over a decade ago are nearly identical to the current template hes using.

Follow the money, because he says he needs donations because he gave up his job as a doctor, Im led to believe he saw more $$$ in grifting and convincing people who are seeking explanations for their weird experiences that following his protocol is the way...for a fee.

I think for sure some of  these whistleblowers are giving their all and being manipulated and used by both sides...the black ops and the grifters.

I wonder how many of the older stories are still being told by people who were tasked with sending false information to the public, and how many are authentic.

I never worked much on this kind of stuff and just left the UFO world to others who seemed comfortable in it, but Im getting a dark vibe from it and people like Greer and Grusch, and Im pretty convinced the people who really had believable experiences with craft or beings are being honest but like I said, once confirmation is out, the grifters playbook shrinks to a single page...and there aint ever enough ego, hubris, or money for a grifter who will sabotage the whole to achieve success in their little segment of the entirety of the UFO world.

Le

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

They all suffer from the UFO Disease.

They may have had a good source, or information that seemed credible. But when they run out of stories, books, television interviews, they have to cook up a new angle.

The History channel doesn't help in real disclosure. They are also in it for the MONEY!

[Littleenki]

History Channel...

Aliens
Ghosts
Bigfoot
An Island full of nails and old coins

incessant Viagra ads.

The Cream of the Crap.

Le

[ArMaP]

The Cream of the Crap.

Unfortunately, that tendency started several years ago, in a less noticeable way.

The first time I saw big companies were looking into the more "out of mainstream" news was when I had a complaint against a NASA video I posted on YouTube, in 2008.

They said that the "clip was extracted from a copyrighted video owned by UFO Global Media LLC and Paranormal Media LLC". They also said that "UFO Global Media LLC and Paranormal Media LLC own many properties - such as all of the Quest Publication documentaries related to "The Secret NASA Transmissions." Please feel free to Google the principals, Jeff Sagansky (former president of CBS, president of Sony, CEO of Paxton, and others) and writer/producer Mark Victor (Poltergeist and 18 other features)."

They didn't want me to remove the video, they wanted to have an advert placed along with the video.
I gave them the link to the Internet Archive page where the video could be downloaded (the original page was already gone) and, as far as I know, nothing more happened.

It was this video:




That showed me that big companies had already a foot well planted in all this "alternative" topics business, and that was 15 years ago.

[Littleenki]

It seems about right, right around 2009 or so, Ancient Aliens came to be, and to me it was a real big deal because I had been into megaliths and had read Chariots of the Gods and some Sagan and Velikovsky.

I think the ancient alien thing was not expected to be as big as it turned out to be, but the best part is it spurned a whole lot of folks to seek things they never may have heard of.

Id guess it showed them how shows that have unprovable elements will attract viewers that are waiting for the big reveal.

What made Ancient Aliens different though was there were visible existing sites and features all over the planet that could be used to bolster a theory or show a concept in real tangible ways.

It made people think about what all those weird things were being drawn or painted in artwork of the religions, ancient texts, and mythos, and in turn spawned a lot of groups who are trying to figure out what is history and what isnt.

Almost all of their other efforts to find the same success of AA involve finding things they never find, or dragging out things that can be quickly and conclusively seen as ridiculous or unbelievable.

Skinwalker is a good example of the latest dog and pony show, no doubt there are lots of smart people yelling at the screen every week as they watch a bunch of actors and hamfisted science heads bumbling around to figure out something every way but the correct way.

It is entertaining however, and will likely bring a lot of new folks into the UFO/ Alien field of research, of course many of them being grifters which have the charisma to separate people from their money.

The entities who own networks and licensing companies have been at this since the first person turned on the first radio show where there were advertisers. Probably the biggest thing that shifted it all to where people look up instead of going about their humdrum day, was television, and then the internet, both of which are used as tools of manipulation by media corporations.

Slow rolled disclosure is going to be difficult for them though because of the attention span of the drones(sheeple)who demand instantaneous outcomes and immediate gratification in every facet of their lives.
People's addiction to tech, and phones in general, may actually be what forces them to disclose what they plan on disclosing earlier than they had desired to.

This is why we have dozens of different "current things" going on at once, because it's hard to distract someone whos brain is fused with their phone unless you just commit to endless streams of false flag crises and invented world events.

Thats why the heavy censoring of social media has grown to epic proportions, they realized theyve created a whole generation of hyper sensitized vacuum cleaners who suck up everything they feed them and are left wanting more and more.

To me, disclosure by governments wont be anything we can trust or believe, true disclosure will have to come from the actual characters which are the actual stars of the shows..Aliens themselves...and until that happens, rest assured we will see an endless stream of grifters and leeches all trying to make a niche for themselves and their wallets.

Cheers?
Le

[micjer]

My gut tells me this is all a false narrative....the next covid emergency.

Real whistleblowers go to jail.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

My gut tells me this is all a false narrative....the next covid emergency.

Real whistleblowers go to jail.

Sounds about right

[Littleenki]

My gut tells me this is all a false narrative....the next covid emergency.

Real whistleblowers go to jail.

Agreed..

Le