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Government Secrets-What Obama Knows about Money/Law

Started by Amaterasu, April 25, 2012, 09:54:54 PM

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Amaterasu

Ok, I just used the title of My last post, I admit, and just changed the last words.  Nothing in this about Obama specifically.  And likely some of You have seen this - but for those of You who have not, this is VERY important.  (Linda, You simply MUST get a connect that allows vids!)



One monster to another, it's time to end this insanity!

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Linda Brown

You will understand someday Amaterasu why I absolutely CAN NOT watch all of these videos and UTubes.....I trust you all to have a very good time with them.... but I can not watch. Sorry.   Linda

Amaterasu

Quote from: Linda Brown on April 26, 2012, 02:03:50 AM
You will understand someday Amaterasu why I absolutely CAN NOT watch all of these videos and UTubes.....I trust you all to have a very good time with them.... but I can not watch. Sorry.   Linda

Fair enough, Linda.  I'll leave it at only the notation that some very interesting and informative data come through vids, and the pieces of an intricate puzzle fall more easily into place with them available.  [smile]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

undo11

#3
i need to comment on this while i'm thinking about it (i haven't finished watching it yet):

he's right that in the early american west, when there weren't many laws due to lack of civilization, people were freer to do what they wanted.  and he is right when he says that two men could have a duel to the death with pistols, even men of high society. however, what he fails to mention is the huge mess early american history actually was, and by huge mess, i mean HUGE MESS.  OH MY gosh,  it was bad. 

there was no minimum wage, no set amount of work hours per day (no 8 hour work day), no control over the prices charged by railroads to ship your product, children could be worked to death, no control over what prices were charged to ship your product to other parts of the world on boats, railroads could charge you any price they wanted for transportation of yourself or family to your/their place of employment.

railroads price gouged the heck out of people, so that their income was eaten up by paying huge fees just to get to work.   no controls on anything. you could be worked to death and your spouse or children would never be compensated, nor would you be provided with any form of medical care or dental care or life insurance if you were injured or died on the job for any reason whatsoever.  there were no safety nets.  no hospitals in many cases. 

people living in abject squallor and poverty due to their jobs not paying commensurate salaries and price gouging prevailing everywhere,  were often just a block away from people living in palatial mansions.  middle class was just a sector of society that managed to borrow enough to live, but not enough to keep them from dying young due to the stress of having to work outrageously long hours, and even having their entire family (including children) working 24/7/365,  just to pay their debts.

there were no controls on what was sold to you under the guise of safe products.  they could sell you anything, claim it did anything, and even if it did nothing or killed you, there was no way to get compensation for their crime.  no clean water controls.  no safety regs on anything.  factories didn't have to be even remotely safe.  mines didn't either.   when things did start getting better due to new laws, businesses were forced to compete with cheaper labor from elsewhere. farmers were price gouged out of business and ended up with huge debts they could never pay off due to competition from super cheap slave labor overseas, exorbitant shipping costs, and laws used to manipulate the inflation (most of it related to export and import fees).  (some of this stuff is happening again).

and we haven't touched on what happened to the native americans, women, blacks, middle income-poverty income whites or chinese and japanese people! 
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undo11

k, watched the whole thing.

the last guy who spoke, after jordan, brought up some really interesting points! however, i don't know how he could say he's against or imply he's against, secret societies while quoting things like our natural god given rights, when those words are straight out of the words of  masons. and not only that, only connects the dots to knights templar.  i get the impression this is a battle of secret societies.
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Amaterasu

Every issue You mentioned in Your assessment of the issues of the "wild west" had to do with...money!  Imagine that!

So...  We take back Our rights AND get rid of the need for money - and We will all be happier by far.  Makes sense to Me.

As for warring secret societies...  Perhaps, but the information is good, and can be built upon.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

undo11

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 26, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
Every issue You mentioned in Your assessment of the issues of the "wild west" had to do with...money!  Imagine that!

So...  We take back Our rights AND get rid of the need for money - and We will all be happier by far.  Makes sense to Me.

As for warring secret societies...  Perhaps, but the information is good, and can be built upon.

thing is, ama, it would be the same if it was fig newtons, pebbles, or apple jacks.   the issue isn't money.  this issue is that people want to be comfortable, successful and fulfilled.  that's about the gist of it.  and the definition for those things, varies greatly from person to person!

as far as your comment on the warring secret societies:  this is what bugs me about it--as right as they may be, they need to just tell the truth, not manipulate people with some truth and the rest carefully tucked into their jacket.  just say it for gosh sakes.   i know they are not supposed to, and according to z, the reason is because if they revealed everything they knew, unscrupulous people would use and abuse it.  well for gads sakes, what do they think is going on now and has been going on, for thousands of years?  what do they think we're doing out here, playing tiddly winks?
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Quote from: undo11 on April 26, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
thing is, ama, it would be the same if it was fig newtons, pebbles, or apple jacks.   the issue isn't money.  this issue is that people want to be comfortable, successful and fulfilled.  that's about the gist of it.  and the definition for those things, varies greatly from person to person!

Yes it is money IF One defines "money" as a need to exchange one thing for another - which is what I define "money" as.  If We eliminate the need for "money" in ALL forms by adding abundant free energy and robots to do all necessary work no One wants to do, People will ALL be comfortable, have the opportunity to fulfill Their bliss and be successful as defined in terms of betterment.

Quoteas far as your comment on the warring secret societies:  this is what bugs me about it--as right as they may be, they need to just tell the truth, not manipulate people with some truth and the rest carefully tucked into their jacket.  just say it for gosh sakes.   i know they are not supposed to, and according to z, the reason is because if they revealed everything they knew, unscrupulous people would use and abuse it.  well for gads sakes, what do they think is going on now and has been going on, for thousands of years?  what do they think we're doing out here, playing tiddly winks?

Sadly, We can't control the secret societies.  All We can do is accumulate the information, synthesize and correlate it, and hope We are not missing a key...or at least that We can deduce the key if one remains hidden (which I think is the intimate link between money and energy).
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."