A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Linda Brown]

I saw what you meant by bait.... and of course I am getting to be much more of a wary fish than I ever was before dear Hobbit...... but I did look at it carefully.

But did you notice what has come to us because of that strange message? Look at this explosion of wonderful responses .

I particularly noted that Dr. LaViolette answered and of course most of the wonderful science that he spoke so well goes right over my head something else that he said did not.... In fact it was the ONLY thing that raised out of his message and glared in flashing lights to me.... was I the only one who saw it?

Another thing to consider is that we may not be alone.  There are likely others out there with better technology than we have who would want to ensure that Earth is safe from such mishaps.

It is comforting to me to know from him directly that this thought has crossed the threshold of his mind.

Linda

[Captain Dave]

Hybridize the science and the metaphysical together into the truth, and that's the path to the future of "mankind", and it's planet of lessons.

What an awesome idea, and when we learn to become as one in humanity, Amaterasu will see her dreams come to fruition, through the beauty and wonder of lifeforces and not the evil and discontent that are brought upon us by the present controllers of our environs.

VERY WELL PUT!

My concern (most of the time) is not whether we should imagine, engineer, and build these things. It is the recklessness in which we do. It is the amount of forethought we put into them. The more you look for what can go wrong, the better your design will be. The more minds involved, the more thorough your design will be. ( Allowing online commenting for instance would bring up problems and solutions quickly in an organized fashion. )

For instance, in the hypersonic bullet thing they fired off. The skin peeled off? Why? Friction? Heat? Sheer Speed? Was it a unibody design? What was the skin made of? How polished was it? How thick was it? Was a cooling system built into the body, especially at certain points. I've got a ton of questions I would have asked before firing it off.

Too often it is a race to find out what we can do. Then our inital inventions are built to grand scale and mass produced. Later when things go wrong, everyone looks back at the initial design and blames the engineers. Proof of concept does not a finished product make.

When you look at who funds, and then ultimately controls new tech, it can get scary. Most of the time they don't know why it works, they don't care. -They just want more money. This puts them in a position to control and do things without understanding the consequences.

By the way black holes do not exist and cannot form in Nature.

- I find that Humorous considering they are within nature.

As for statistics, percentages & odds... They are a guide, not a Rule. 1-10 or 1-10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 doesn't matter because we all know sh!t happens.

Tell me I can or can't do something according to the odd's- doesn't matter to me. If I want it badly enough - in most cases it will happen - especially if I remain unopposed - because you can't quantize belief. I'm of course not alone in this. I know I can do anything, how dedicated to it, or distracted from it, is always the question.

Electricity, Light, Flight, what were the odds they would be imagined, and brought into this reality by "mere mortals"- yet they were.

Initially in life I wanted to make enough money to fund research into certain area's and inventions. Things that would change humanity for the better. The money I made would have allowed me to develop other inventions. Welcome to the real world - I had my Idea's instead stolen by investors who then profitted by them leaving me behind - less than a footnote. I can find investors, trusting them however is another ball game entirely.

I came up with an idea for a Global Cooperative in hopes of eliminating greed, therefore allowing collaboration and more fruitfull progress. 

Imagine a web site where one can go to express their Idea. Teams are then developed where needed. The Co-op funds the patents. Everyone gets a percentage and due credit.

There are manufacturing/ machining companies all over the World barely keeping their doors open - but they have the facilities and equipment. Bring them into the Co-op - we can now manufacture anything.

Divide the manufacturing and sales etc out among all participating Countries. This would help to stabilize economies.

The Co-op is owned by the employee's - total accountability = everybody wins.

Install free online education into the system & Tada.

The expansion of this would be amazing.

[hobbit]

I saw what you meant by bait.... and of course I am getting to be much more of a wary fish than I ever was before dear Hobbit...... but I did look at it carefully.

But did you notice what has come to us because of that strange message? Look at this explosion of wonderful responses .

I particularly noted that Dr. LaViolette answered and of course most of the wonderful science that he spoke so well goes right over my head something else that he said did not.... In fact it was the ONLY thing that raised out of his message and glared in flashing lights to me.... was I the only one who saw it?

Another thing to consider is that we may not be alone.  There are likely others out there with better technology than we have who would want to ensure that Earth is safe from such mishaps.

It is comforting to me to know from him directly that this thought has crossed the threshold of his mind.

Linda

Linda,
The king of fish is the salmon, and in the northern hemisphere it really appreciates north flowing water.
And it has uncanny navigation skills , returning, returning, returning to where it was created.
So what benefits are there in north flowing waters?
The salmon are hard to catch due to their single minded determination to return, they actually are not feeding whilst going upstream.

You know how odd an hobbit I am, and one of those odd features is My ability to detect magnetic currents, and of course to find and follow water, even when it's underground.
As water flows in one direction, the magnetic field flows in the opposite direction, clever is the king of fish???
They appear to defy gravity as they leap up the weirs....clever salmon.

And if You have ever hooked one , and they have set off UPSTREAM, You will know the amazing power they seem to have going upstream.

They do prefer NORTH flowing water.

Odd are the hobbits that operate in the invisable realmns.
hobbit

[arc]

Captain Dave ;

My concern (most of the time) is not whether we should imagine, engineer, and build these things. It is the recklessness in which we do. It is the amount of forethought we put into them. The more you look for what can go wrong, the better your design will be. The more minds involved, the more thorough your design will be. ( Allowing online commenting for instance would bring up problems and solutions quickly in an organized fashion. )

For instance, in the hypersonic bullet thing they fired off. The skin peeled off? Why? Friction? Heat? Sheer Speed? Was it a unibody design? What was the skin made of? How polished was it? How thick was it? Was a cooling system built into the body, especially at certain points. I've got a ton of questions I would have asked before firing it off.

Too often it is a race to find out what we can do. Then our inital inventions are built to grand scale and mass produced. Later when things go wrong, everyone looks back at the initial design and blames the engineers. Proof of concept does not a finished product make.

When you look at who funds, and then ultimately controls new tech, it can get scary. Most of the time they don't know why it works, they don't care. -They just want more money. This puts them in a position to control and do things without understanding the consequences.
- I find that Humorous considering they are within nature.

As for statistics, percentages & odds... They are a guide, not a Rule. 1-10 or 1-10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 doesn't matter because we all know sh!t happens.

Tell me I can or can't do something according to the odd's- doesn't matter to me. If I want it badly enough - in most cases it will happen - especially if I remain unopposed - because you can't quantize belief. I'm of course not alone in this. I know I can do anything, how dedicated to it, or distracted from it, is always the question.

Electricity, Light, Flight, what were the odds they would be imagined, and brought into this reality by "mere mortals"- yet they were.

Initially in life I wanted to make enough money to fund research into certain area's and inventions. Things that would change humanity for the better. The money I made would have allowed me to develop other inventions. Welcome to the real world - I had my Idea's instead stolen by investors who then profitted by them leaving me behind - less than a footnote. I can find investors, trusting them however is another ball game entirely.

I came up with an idea for a Global Cooperative in hopes of eliminating greed, therefore allowing collaboration and more fruitfull progress. 

Imagine a web site where one can go to express their Idea. Teams are then developed where needed. The Co-op funds the patents. Everyone gets a percentage and due credit.

There are manufacturing/ machining companies all over the World barely keeping their doors open - but they have the facilities and equipment. Bring them into the Co-op - we can now manufacture anything.

Divide the manufacturing and sales etc out among all participating Countries. This would help to stabilize economies.

The Co-op is owned by the employee's - total accountability = everybody wins.

Install free online education into the system & Tada.

The expansion of this would be amazing.

amen...


One of us is all of us
and all of us are one


We are each and every one, part of a Greater Community.


arc

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Wow, this is getting interesting!
This is the meat & bones of the matter.

We take risks everyday, i took a risk a few days ago that could have killed someone, i didn't stop to think.
Someone with a pacemaker was visiting my lab, and i forgot that the tesla coil was in standby mode.
If the lighting falls below a certain level, or i cover the IR sensor with my hand, it will switch on.
The coil is only partially shielded, and the field is still quite intense.
Not only that, i have some very powerful magnets lying around!
The coil didn't activate, as it was daytime, and the magnets are kept in a far corner on a steel plate, so nothing happened.

Only later, when he told me he had a pacemaker, did i realise just how close to death he was, and you could have knocked me down with a feather.I'm not normally that stupid, and all it takes is a little distraction.....next time i will ask elderly visitors if they have pacemakers...
Normally i trust my feelings, i have an instinct  that says doing this or that 'feels' good or bad, and my instinct told me everything was fine, and it was.

I have predicted the cataclysmic failiure of a machine to within 2 days, and i smiled a big fat, smug smile when it finally exploded & sent parts through the roof, with my boss looking on...
He totally ignored my advice to replace the bearings within 2 weeks, and it exploded 16 days later.
I didn't take vibration measurements, or anything like that, i didn't need to, a lifetime of experience with machines is enough. (and the engineers among you will be smiling, i know).

1World has summed it up neatly, we are not going to be ALL agreeing on EVERYTHING, that's just impossible (a word i hardly ever use) but i sense a great feeling of brotherhood & understanding.

We are all discussing the pros, cons, & theories in a freindly, enlightened way, and i am certain we are ALL learning from it, i know i am.
I also feel this 'driving force' trying to guide us, also freindly, and i feel no fear at all, and i have never really feared the unknown, but i have tried to get to know it, since if it is known, it need not be feared.

As for the LHC, i have posted many times elsewhere that it's a waste of time & money IMO.
It cost zillions that could have gone into much easier technology, like Brown's or Podkletnov, Searl et al, and it was based on conventional physics which means it was bound to fail.
Have they found that elusive Higgs particle? No.
Did they learn something about particles waves etc etc? Probably, but it could have been done in a much simpler (=cheaper) fashion, like Brown's approach..

I reasoned that the LHC would not destroy the earth, simply because it would not work properly in the first place.

I'm not a political type, and i will leave that to others who are more skilled in that area, but i am very much aware how this affects all of us, and when i say 'all' of us, i mean 'nearly all' since you will never get 100% of the votes, otherwise we wouldn't have so many election debates

I do sense a direct need that we all co-operate, as one. Those that go on about "i'm not going to give up my personality to that hive mind bullsh*t" should think about that for a while, you will not 'lose' anything, you will gain a lot, your UNIQUE personality will enhance the hive mind, give it more colour.

When i say colour, i mean that the human eye can see 1.4 million different hues, and several million different shades, so yes, each and every one of us will have his or her own unique colour in this emerging light that will take us into the next stage of evolution, the age of Aquarius.
And for me personally,2012 is the year of the dragon, and i'm a dragon, so i think that's where i get my energy from. I intend not to waste a moment of it.

A chance remark, that was misinterpreted, got Amaterasu banned from you-know-where, and she led me here. Zorgon told me that Linda Brown was here, and since then i have met many more wonderful & free-thinking people. We have already had promising results.
And it all happened this year, it can't be coincidence, we were all destined to come here, each by his or her own path....let's make the most of it, i have a feeling that we get only one shot at this.

But here i am shooting off at the mouth again, i haven't read all the posts yet

[Linda Brown]

And as painful as some of our paths have been on the road to HERE on the LivingMoon and in each others company..... it will all be worth it.

This is where we are meant to be and the combination of science and magic will be the crossover that we have needed to step into the next age. But just as arc and PWM have just said.... We are all one in this..... a wondrous windchime array of so many individual pieces. When this special magical wind blows through us we will make music that has never been heard before. This is no mistake.

Linda

[Amaterasu]

I do believe that We will see some awesome things come out of this.  I am so blessed to be a part!

I surely don't miss the hours and hours of "debunking" the "debunkers," over at You know where.  Don't miss that at all.  Here, if someOne disagrees, They have good reasons for Their view and a proper debate can ensue.  There it became to Monty Python routine:  "Yes it is!"  "No it isn't!"

Glad to be rid of THAT mess, in favor of a supportive, honestly curious bunch.

[hobbit]

playswithmachines,
"Pacemaker"
I did almost the self same with my dowsing rods.
I run an antiques centre shop, and often check out people who enter, nobody knows what I am thinking, and basically don't have a clue that it is them I am checking.
I can modulate instantly to whatever I think of them, and normally I check the overall HEART field.
A lady came in and I didn't pick anything up, so I moved close and closer until She asked what I was looking for.
I explained and asked her jokingly if She was a robot, she laughed and said well yes.
It's not often that I am surprised, She explainmed that She had been fitted with a pacemaker at a very early age, I asked if I coud locate it by thinking of it.
As soon as I did She jolted backwards and screamed out.
She was OK and said it was the first time ever She had experienced the pacemaker.
my mind began racing as to what I could have done.

When I think of anything my thoughts( everyone is the same) are through the palms of my hands and soles of my feet( christians THINK)
I am confident of the power of my field, and I connected direct to that pacemaker, She actually felt great, but I sure am carefull since.

This post is essential to the thread title, this is an electrical universe, and We are mere consequences of it's method.

Your memory field is electrogravitic, and one of the main drivers that made me seek out such as here, and Dr brown was after myself experiencing some very odd reaqctions whilst dowsing megalithic sites...and re-locating with the greatest of ease, and as an experienced mig and tig welder I recognise certain smells relative to high frequency signals, and recognise the burns they create.

I have no fear of where I tread with dowsing, which can be dangerous.
hobbit

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Hobbit: Agreed.

L.E; absolutely!

Amy; I agree completely with dr LaVioette's assesment, i don't even need to check his math, the figures are in the right range. I would like to talk with him about subquantum kinetics, though....

Linda; Good point, it is my opinion that there is a benign force at work, be it celestial Nth dimensional beings or little green men in saucers, they are guiding us, it could even be God himself (except i don't personally believe in him)-call it what you will.

Everybody seems to forget that these guys are WAY ahead of us, and if they wanted us gone, we would indeed be gone.....
We are still here, i take that as being a good sign, the only thing that can destroy us is...... us.

Captain Dave;

My concern (most of the time) is not whether we should imagine, engineer, and build these things. It is the recklessness in which we do. It is the amount of forethought we put into them. The more you look for what can go wrong, the better your design will be. The more minds involved, the more thorough your design will be. ( Allowing online commenting for instance would bring up problems and solutions quickly in an organized fashion. )

Exactly! That's exactly what i am trying to put into words, thank you

Too often it is a race to find out what we can do. Then our inital inventions are built to grand scale and mass produced. Later when things go wrong, everyone looks back at the initial design and blames the engineers. Proof of concept does not a finished product make.

Right again, my freind.

A machine is not just designed & built, it has to be designed to evolve.

My old Amiga computer being a case in point, it can burn dvd's and can have usb's and MP3's and does it faster than Windoze (boot up time=58 seconds) but it was designed before any of these things existed.
It is truly a remarkable machine, the one posession that is most valuable to me, it can operate invisible internet modes, & can bring down a satellite, and the games are cool as well.

Now you know why it was banned in the U.S.

Youtube Jaques Fresco for some ideas about the evolution of technology, and us.

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By the way black holes do not exist and cannot form in Nature.- I find that Humorous considering they are within nature.

Here i am neutral, the effect of a black hole is real enough, and while they operate outside of conventiomal physics, so does a bee, an ant, and a lifter, so no surprise there.
I would not go so far as to say they do or do not exist in nature, merely that we do not understand them fully, like gravity, magnetism, and charge

Initially in life I wanted to make enough money to fund research into certain area's and inventions. Things that would change humanity for the better. The money I made would have allowed me to develop other inventions. Welcome to the real world - I had my Idea's instead stolen by investors who then profitted by them leaving me behind - less than a footnote. I can find investors, trusting them however is another ball game entirely.

Been there, done that, welcome to the club

I came up with an idea for a Global Cooperative in hopes of eliminating greed, therefore allowing collaboration and more fruitfull progress. 

Imagine a web site where one can go to express their Idea. Teams are then developed where needed. The Co-op funds the patents. Everyone gets a percentage and due credit.

There are manufacturing/ machining companies all over the World barely keeping their doors open - but they have the facilities and equipment. Bring them into the Co-op - we can now manufacture anything.

Divide the manufacturing and sales etc out among all participating Countries. This would help to stabilize economies.

The Co-op is owned by the employee's - total accountability = everybody wins.

You are more than welcome to post your concept in the inventor's forum, in fact i would like you to do so
Please read my thread on the subject;

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=978.0

Hobbit again; 100% with you on that.

Arc;

One of us is all of us
and all of us are one

We are each and every one, part of a Greater Community.

I think that's the way it is meant to be, whether we like it or not.
The first hurdle is accepting it, i guess...

Linda again; Yes, and yes!

Amy;

Glad to be rid of THAT mess, in favor of a supportive, honestly curious bunch.

Thank YOU, Amy, for guiding me here, it's a great place to be.

I love you all

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

This post is essential to the thread title, this is an electrical universe, and We are mere consequences of it's method.

Yes it is, and i am sure of our ability to feel it & influence it, i feel it, but i don't have it if you see what i mean.

What i discover with my instruments is the same as you discover with your dowsing rods. Fields. Spirals. Vibration. Energy.

What you see, i can only imagine, but i still see it....

[hobbit]

Yes it is, and i am sure of our ability to feel it & influence it, i feel it, but i don't have it if you see what i mean.

What i discover with my instruments is the same as you discover with your dowsing rods. Fields. Spirals. Vibration. Energy.

What you see, i can only imagine, but i still see it....

I am confident We are running parallel.
And parallel lines are My domain.....NINE parallel lines in three threes....that's 3,6,9.
But the key is phase conjugation, coupled to side by side sets of parallel lines creating bloch( neals) walls between them, then zig zag patterns emerge relative to the distance between the lines.
That's where PORTAL gateways are sited.
Those portal gateways are between dimensions that are in the self same location, but exist upon different faces of geometry.

Through the looking glass....I do wander.
hobbit

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I whish i had your insight, old freind

I say 'old' because i sense that you are a bit older than myself, that being 47 years.

48 soon, and in 2014 (if we get that far) i will throw the most amazing party, and you are all invited I have even planned the lighting FX already!
Even if you can't make it physically, there will be 3 internet/skype/webcam connections running, so you can all join in, and if the internet is no more, then i will be broadcasting on 27.8 Mz or thereabouts (AM of course).

Wait till you see the rings that my wife & myself wear, the text (in welsh) says;
"One ring to find them, and in their love, bind them"

We bought those rings 2 years ago, on my suggestion, my wife thinks it's the most beautiful phrase ever....
PWM

[Amaterasu]

I invited Dr. LaViolette but He did not respond to My invitation - spoke to all the other stuff I brought up, but expressed nothing one way or another about joining here.  I take that is a vote of no interest...

Go to http://starburstfound.org/ and find the contact info.  If You speak rationally, He's likely to respond.  [grin]

I also asked the poster whose words started this thread if He is interested in joining - have not heard back yet.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Well, you ARE the Communicator, Amy, and i am grateful that you managed to track him down.
I think it's worth my while to contact him, i have a lot to discuss if he is open to it, i do agree with him, and i would like nothing more than to discuss this with him.

Give me 48 hours,
PWM

[Amaterasu]

Well, you ARE the Communicator, Amy, and i am grateful that you managed to track him down.
I think it's worth my while to contact him, i have a lot to discuss if he is open to it, i do agree with him, and i would like nothing more than to discuss this with him.

Give me 48 hours,
PWM

Paul and I have communicated off and on for a while, actually...  [grin]  You invite Him, too!  If We keep at Him, maybe He'll grace this forum.  [hope, hope]