A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Linda Brown]

Mikado,

Please read the post that you have gotten so upset over. Can't you see the compliment there?

Read it again.

Oh yes.... but that is the Creators gift to us.... to keep us from getting in over our heads...

And as irritation as the delays caused by Mikado and others like him are to me.......... I accept them as agents of protection too.

Linda

And to Hobbit and the rest of the membership. I am sorry if I seem to be dragging you all through years and years of this.... but the topic was "A reason I recieved Why Electrogravitics is Dangerous" and the opening statement.... you have to agree was chilling.

But anytime something takes us OFF that subject.... look hard at what is really happening. Dear Hobbit! I KNOW that you know better and I should too....and we are going to try to explain to those readers who haven't a clue why this is so important.... aren't they here to learn?

You can't form conclusions about situations without knowing more about them. Simple as that.

Mikado is here to lend his side to things..... so  his views I am sure will be well represented.

I promised to remain as civil as humanly possible. and I think that he has agreed that we will try to limit out childish behavior....What more can we offer?

And I sure admire the restraint that this board has displayed.

HOBBIT.... YOu are playing into a wrongfooted effect. Watch out for landmines!!!! Please drop it!!!! Lets stick to the subject.


Linda

[zorgon]

I DID NOT CALL ANYONE A MORON.
PUT UP THE PART YOU CLIPPED.
hobbit

A) i don't appreciate you yelling

B) your clipped post... It is stored in reports along with the complaint that we acted on


YOUR OFFENSIVE suggestion that I am very argumentitive is YOUR normal moronic logic .

Note: this post will be removed shortly back where it belongs  in the trash

And yes I AM getting annoyed... in case there was any doubt   

[Linda Brown]

Just so that people will understand what I am saying here and not consider it a " cryptic message" I want to say to Hobbit....." Watch out for the Ill wind rising".

He knows what that means. But if you don't understand it I will try to explain.

Whenever you have a group of people together like this one in a Forum and the topic is a " sensitive one" as THIS CERTAINLY IS.... A topic which is carefully monitored.... you will have programs which are designed to attack the very cohesiveness of that same Forum. Soon without understanding why... one Forum member is responding heatedly to another. .... the topic strays ( thats the point of it) but its more sinister than simply delaying a fruitful and positive discussion of the topic.... the aim is to split that very membership assunder.  Hobbit here is responding to a " mood" that he SHOULD have recognized..... and many of you are doing the same....In your communications you will soon open doors for more discord unless you stop the Effect in its tracks and do not let it get a foothold here.

I watched it happen with countless other Forums.... and even coming close to suggesting that this forum remotely resembles ATS is something else speaking here Hobbit and you know it! Don't let this happen.

If all of you don't understand this then thats fine. This message is for the ones that have watched this and seen it in operation .... the old saying might have been " An ill wind rising"..... But thanks to your strong monitors here this will not happen on the LivingMoon. Trust the process Hobbit.....OK?

All is well. Lets go Forth!  Linda

[undo11]

good thing i haven't been involved in the conversation this time, so it can't be blamed on me.

hey if'n ya want me to get involved i can.  i mean, if you miss my paranoid negative side, i can probably arrange a visit.  lol not that hard to do, ya know?  which makes me wonder what you folks are up to, anyway.  you yell at me for being paranoid and negative and i come back and find all this negative paranoid stuff going on.

[undo11]

linda

there is not " An ill wind rising".

hobbit

no one is a moron. 

mikado

quit picking fights with people. 

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thank you.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Linda, you are right about the concerns, they have all been listed here, but please let the 'control' thing go. Just sit back & let the topic flow, is my advice.
Hobbit, dear freind, please stay, and please refrain from using all caps. This isn't anything like ATS nor will Zorgon let that happen....

As regards the OP, you recently quoted it Linda, did you read my reply?
I said it was amateuristic at best & fear-mongering at worst.
And i still thank Amy for sending me this info, whether it's helpful or not.

Our job is to sort the fact from the fiction, in a clean, logical discussion.
Pegasus is one of the very few places where we can work in peace, let's keep it that way.

Getting back on topic, there are several specific dangers with this tech;

The first is that we may inadvertently create a black hole/dimension shift or even open a wormhole that will allow ;demons' from another dimension to enter our world.
Hogwash, all of it.

Next, we have the scenario from the OP about objects being accelerated into the Earth, either by us, or ET's.
Also hogwash.

Then we have the possibility of certain offshoots like kinetic energy weapons. These are a very real threat, but thankfully no-one knows how to build them (except a few military black ops) and that's something we should worry about!

Then there is the other danger of mind control, taking us maybe in a direction we are not destined for, or as Zorg puts it, 'we can't handle it'
I think our job is still primarily about getting people educated.
Let them know the options, just like with fire.
"Look, you can cook with it, keep warm etc"
"But it is also dangerous, you can kill with it, use it wisely"

Given the choice, most of us have learned to live with fire, both it's benefits & it's dangers.We still use it, even though it regularly gets out of our control, so we need a 'fire brigade' just to deal with it
Anyone here who doesn't agree with that?

And so it will be with EG and free energy tech, but first we will have to get to the stage where we need energy merely to survive, when it will be a very scarce commodity, that people will want to know more....

And Linda: No mood swings here, at least

[hobbit]

linda

there is not " An ill wind rising".

hobbit

no one is a moron. 

mikado

quit picking fights with people. 

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thank you.

I have not said anyone is a moron, I did describe mikados logic as moronic.
Moronic logic is child like logic.
He declared He would not debate anything with Me because I was "VERY ARGUMENTITIVE"
It was His logic thus, that because He considered that I was IN HIS OPINION very argumentative that He could not debate .

I found His post declaring that I am "very argumentitive "offensive.

Which though I did not go bleating to the moderators about....I have never complained to them.

I do not consider saying someones logic is moronic to be offensive, merely a descriptive word that describes someones logic as child like.

If I had called anyone MORON, as You have just posted as though I had, it would have been offensive to declare a poster as having the IQ of a child.
I am in no way qualified to declare that any poster on here can be classed as a moron.
Have You any qualifications to allow You to ?
hobbit

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Welcome back, Hobbit.
Now can i leave you lot alone for a few hours? i need some sleep here...

[Linda Brown]

Linda, you are right about the concerns, they have all been listed here, but please let the 'control' thing go. Just sit back & let the topic flow, is my advice.

Fine... believe me.... I am happy enough to do that. As I said....Hobbit, dear freind, please stay, and please refrain from using all caps. This isn't anything like ATS nor will Zorgon let that happen....( I believe and trust in that too.)As regards the OP, you recently quoted it Linda, did you read my reply?
I said it was amateuristic at best & fear-mongering at worst. ( and in the middle? ) And i still thank Amy for sending me this info, whether it's helpful or not.

Our job is to sort the fact from the fiction, in a clean, logical discussion. And thats a tough job, understood.Pegasus is one of the very few places where we can work in peace, let's keep it that way. Amen to that.Getting back on topic, there are several specific dangers with this tech;

The first is that we may inadvertently create a black hole/dimension shift or even open a wormhole that will allow ;demons' from another dimension to enter our world.
Hogwash, all of it. ( I think that expression is sort of interesting. Has anyone ever tried to wash a Hog? Just wondering. I don't think its as neat at many would want it to be! This is something that years ago John Lear wholeheartedly believed. Perhaps he has changed his mind NOW but then he was entirely convinced. My only point being.... its not always as easy as it seems to discount these worries, Handy word though and I will save it for use later on!)Next, we have the scenario from the OP about objects being accelerated into the Earth, either by us, or ET's.
Also hogwash. ( Oh Goody! Another one!!!)
Then we have the possibility of certain offshoots like kinetic energy weapons. These are a very real threat, but thankfully no-one knows how to build them (except a few military black ops) and that's something we should worry about! ( Oh well, nothing to worry about here folks just the occasional black operation. No Hogs being washed here then!!! <g>)
Then there is the other danger of mind control, taking us maybe in a direction we are not destined for, or as Zorg puts it, 'we can't handle it'
I think our job is still primarily about getting people educated. ( You didn't address this very well PWM... is the "mind control thing another Hogwash Party? Just so that I can put my mind at ease! )

Let them know the options, just like with fire.

I agree with you. So far we have two hogwashes, one black probability and another mind control thingy that didn't even register a real comment? OK... I guess I can deal with those options! "

Look, you can cook with it, keep warm etc"
"But it is also dangerous, you can kill with it, use it wisely"

Given the choice, most of us have learned to live with fire, both it's benefits & it's dangers.We still use it, even though it regularly gets out of our control, so we need a 'fire brigade' just to deal with it
Anyone here who doesn't agree with that?

Whats to argue with?

And so it will be with EG and free energy tech, but first we will have to get to the stage where we need energy merely to survive, when it will be a very scarce commodity, that people will want to know more....

And Linda: No mood swings here, at least

Well that is a great plus. Happy to hear it.   Linda

[undo11]

I have not said anyone is a moron, I did describe mikados logic as moronic.
Moronic logic is child like logic.
He declared He would not debate anything with Me because I was "VERY ARGUMENTITIVE"
It was His logic thus, that because He considered that I was IN HIS OPINION very argumentative that He could not debate .

I found His post declaring that I am "very argumentitive "offensive.

Which though I did not go bleating to the moderators about....I have never complained to them.

I do not consider saying someones logic is moronic to be offensive, merely a descriptive word that describes someones logic as child like.

If I had called anyone MORON, as You have just posted as though I had, it would have been offensive to declare a poster as having the IQ of a child.
I am in no way qualified to declare that any poster on here can be classed as a moron.
Have You any qualifications to allow You to ?
hobbit

i'll rephrase, no one is acting moronic
and we all love ya hobbit.  don't worry. 

[hobbit]

i'll rephrase, no one is acting moronic
and we all love ya hobbit.  don't worry.

I don't worry, especially about what anyone thinks about Me, it is water off a ducks back.
Attacks against someone like Myself who offers up a vastly different reality to the common accepted and brilliantly indoctrinated status quo, are never ending.
I will though defend Myself with equal force.

I threaten many peoples EGO built little castle walls that they defend to the death.
The most assumed learned and or organised religion types have the most huge EGOs.
They assume they are right, and construct walls of like minded people where they can become kings within this castle.
I am thus viewed as the enemy, as I question and threaten that castle wall, and because they view Me as an enemy, they tell their like minded followers I am the enemy, so then I must be the enemy , therefore they all must attack the threat.

This can become pack like in the attacks, akin to hyenas encircling their prey.
I am very well used to this, and can sense the onset of such.
The best method of defense is attack, so don't think My methods too moronic, as I know exactly what I am doing, with intent.
Basically at the first opportunity bring the situation to the boil, it makes the players show their hand as such, if the castle walls are too solid, and built of firmly like minded people, then if the bringing the situation to the boil doesn't create a breach in the castle wall, then it's best to simply ramble off, in hobbit fashion.
It's no use banging your head against a really solid EGO.


hobbit

[undo11]

hobbit

sorry to burst your balloon on that one, but z is not a religious person although he has knowledge of rosicrucianism and buddhism.  he is otherwise, not religious and this is his forum, and he is not attacking you and there are no hyena packs  circling you.

[Amaterasu]

good thing i haven't been involved in the conversation this time, so it can't be blamed on me.

hey if'n ya want me to get involved i can.  i mean, if you miss my paranoid negative side, i can probably arrange a visit.  lol not that hard to do, ya know?  which makes me wonder what you folks are up to, anyway.  you yell at me for being paranoid and negative and i come back and find all this negative paranoid stuff going on.

Handed Ye a wee bit o' gold!

[Amaterasu]

Linda,

Just pointing out that the term, "hogwash," refers to the nasty, filthy water one ends up with after washing the hog, not the act of washing one.  [grin]

[Linda Brown]

Funny. English is funny.

Car Wash is not the water from washing cars.

Rightfully it paints a conflicting picture!

And speaking of definitions.....Amaterasu.... since you have put so much into your efforts with Electrogravitational stuff..... doesn't it concern you that some people keep confusing it with " lifters'?

Linda