The NEW experiment!

[A51Watcher]

Anyone reading my Roswell thread on the spookz site will notice a few interesting things.

- It 'blew up' in record time.

- The majority of the responses were 'wow I had no idea and I thought I knew a lot about Roswell'.



Well it turns out that there is even more to this story than what I have dredged up so far!!

Imagine taking a large crane and pulling The Titanic up slowly out of the sea, to where at this point you can only see the control tower so far.


That is exactly the point this investigation is at so far.

NO ONE has unearthed the full extent of this story yet, and the details lay hidden in your very own local library, newspaper headlines and clippings not seen for 65 years.

Many are one of a kind local sighting not reported in any others newspapers, along with covering the national stories of the day.

Also, many times I would find scads of details on a story in one paper, while another states paper barely covered the main parts.



If you are impressed with what you have seen in 'The Day before Roswell' so far, I invite you to join me in uncovering the rest of this giant jigsaw puzzle that is impossible to 'remove from the files' and is still available to the public.

No matter where you live in the world, in 1947 I am confident your local newspaper had something to say on the subject. Note in my thread there are sightings reported world- wide.

Here is only a partial list from a 2 week period in the summer, while the entire wave lasted 6 months -








The importance is of course -

This is where it all began... The Coverup and The Official Authorization to do so, and it being given priority above all else. (At all costs regardless)



The NEW experiment I mentioned in the title, is to see if PRC members are up the challenge of visiting your local library.   



(Careful, you might find more than you bargained for!  )

[Linda Brown]

I would suggest too that when they are looking for information that to remember that sometimes you have to sort of go in an unexpected direction when you are looking for this information. Almost as if you have to avoid the front door.   Linda

[A51Watcher]

In most projects that is true Linda.

In this case it's much easier, just turn the wheels of the microfiche film and look for the words 'Flying Disc'.   

[Amaterasu]

Not sure if I can make it to a library but will try.  All year 1947?

[A51Watcher]

Not sure if I can make it to a library but will try.  All year 1947?

The -for sure- period is last week of June and first week of July 1947, scanning a few weeks either side of that usually produces a lot too. At least in the US that is true. In Hong Kong I found no mention of Flying Discs at all until 2 weeks AFTER Roswell, then scads were seen. (Not even the famous "Army Captures Flying Disc" story")

So other tour dates for the aliens around the world I can not be sure of.

The list of dates I have so far in my database for the US start in May and continue through September.

The Pentagon secretary handling the reports for 'Project Saucer' (as it was informally called in the beginning) indicated the Pentagon was aware of the Saucers as early as April.

[A51Watcher]

I just posted a new clipping in my Roswell thread that shows what else you might find as Linda mentioned about keeping your eyes and ears open along the way.

[Littleenki]

We have a great library here in Largo, Fl, and there is a huge microfiche section, too.
Ill see what I can find this week, A51, and I have seen paper clippings of ufo stories before, when doing research for previous articles, but they were usually short clips with not much info for the effort, but as Sky Otter says, we have to look past the obvious, and see the truth behind it, so upstairs Ill go! I noticed several sightings were in Florida, so thats where Ill start.

Cool thread, as books are forever, and unless we burn them, they arent going anywhere!

Cheers!
Littleenki

[sky otter]

so glad you mentioned this in the new avatar thread cause i had missed it..sigh

and i think it started before 1947

so my question is
do you want us to just stick to 47 or what

[A51Watcher]

so glad you mentioned this in the new avatar thread cause i had missed it..sigh

and i think it started before 1947

so my question is
do you want us to just stick to 47 or what

Yes for this project 47 is the focus.


But for some background, here is what I have found so far -

I of course was curious if anything preceded the Roswell wave.

We have 'ancient aliens' of course, but my current interest is by contrast 'modern aliens'. 


Information on the WWII 'Foo-Fighters' is slim and most are of a 'small lights' and 'fireball' nature. However there is a solid disc report among them and the thing was huge!

In 46 there was an alarming 'ghost-rocket' wave in Sweden that was serious enough that Jimmy Doolittle personally went over for an investigation.


In 47 the evidence I have shows the sightings began in May and lasted until September.

But here's the catch -


People began seeing and reporting these discs in May, BUT the newspapers thought these people were lone nut cases, and they were unaware of the other sightings being reported in other states because they too thought the people were lone nuts and had not printed them also.

And so a backlog of sightings began to pile up, unprinted, in all these different news offices.

The Dam broke with the Kenneth Arnold sighting, (who was the first witness considered 'reliable' by the news corps) and then suddenly all reports were being published, current ones as well as those that they had been sitting on.


So - the main place to scan is from June 24 onward.


However...   ya just never know!   



 

 

[Littleenki]

Still going back to 46, and forward to early 48...why not? Its all there for the reading and isnt going anywhere!
Littleenki

[A51Watcher]

Still going back to 46, and forward to early 48...why not? Its all there for the reading and isnt going anywhere!
Littleenki

By all means do! 


When the reports begin to appear    you can't help but to look over your shoulder! LOL 


If you are very lucky you will find a local family name you will recognize as I did. Or... a name that should be easy to track down because of their position.

I have gotten lucky in this manner on several occasions and have contacted and met either the person making that report in the paper from so long ago, or their spouse or children.

The experience is pretty amazing.  And much better than the shorthand notes that news clippings provide.



48 appears to be a huge wave of green fireballs which were unusual enough to alarm the military.

A -TS- conference was held on the matter with all the big shots in attendance (including Dr. Teller who wants to know the flying disc connection). More on that plus the transcript of that meeting in 'The Green Fireballs' thread here in this section.



Happy Hunting! 

[sky otter]

well ok..don't say i never gave ya anything

since you ..well maybe it's just me..can't copy the articles to here
let me share  a tool..i think most of us can use it to narrow the field just a bit to closer to home and what was the local news papers
while this is about my local paper from that time..the reference tool givin in the article can be used by all of us..
ok..it's a free-bee..enjoy

TechMan: Glory days of the Press can be found on Google
2012-03-28 20:05:09
inShare. By Ced Kurtz / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

There are many of us who still miss the The Pittsburgh Press.

Even TechMan, a Post-Gazette guy all the way, remembers with fondness the days when the scrappy little morning PG competed against staid Mother Press. In those days I always thought of the afternoon Press as a workingman's paper.

Well, I have some happy news. The Pittsburgh Press lives again -- at least its archives do, on the Web.

With the approval of the Post-Gazette, Google has begun to digitize the microfilm archives of the Press and post them on the Web. The Post-Gazette's permission was required because it owns the Press archives.

But Google doesn't make this material easy to find.

To locate it, go to the Google.com home page and click on "advanced search" to the right of the box where you enter your search terms.

On the resulting page click on "Google News archive search" in the bottom left-hand corner of the page.

On the resulting page, click on "advanced archive search," again to the right of the search box.

Or you can just go to news.google.com/archivesearch/advanced_search (see below for easy ) if you're better than I am at typing long URLs. In either case, when you get there, bookmark it.

Now you are at the page where you can perform your search. Type Gilbert Love into the window that says "with all of the words." In the window to the right of "return results that come from," type Pittsburgh Press.

Voila, you should get a listing of Gilbert Love columns from the Press.
You can use Pittsburgh Post-Gazette or even Commercial Gazette as your source if you want to go back to the 1800s. (If you just want to browse, use Pittsburgh as your search word). But those archives have been there for a while, unlike the Press.

If you double-click on one of Gilbert Love's columns, you will be taken to a representation of the page. Your cursor is a hand that allows you to click and drag the page around on the screen.

Above are magnifying glass icons to enlarge or reduce the page, a box where you can type in the page number you want to view and arrows to go to the next page or the previous page.

My thanks to reader Norma Chase for alerting me to this. Although I knew digitizing the Press was planned, I didn't know it had actually started. Ms. Chase said she spent an entertaining evening reading through Press archives.

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here's where you can start
http://news.google.com/news/advanced_news_search?as_drrb=a

here's one i found..
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=By4tAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xqQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6461,137576&dq=flying+discs+flying+%7C+discs+%7C+ufo%27s+%7C+things+%7C+in+%7C+the+%7C+sky&hl=en

and here's the link to this article
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/technology/techman-glory-days-of-the-press-can-be-found-on-google-231326/



be kind to each other..we're all in this together and ain't none of us gettin out with the meat suits..

.......

[sky otter]

dang i have lost my place yet again..sigh

this should keep some busy for a bit..i gotta go make some food

hey A51..stick this with the mj thing..ok..

if no one has ever checked out the black vault and how it got started..they should

http://www.theblackvault.com/m/articles/view/The-Black-Vault-Search-Engine



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Special Ops UFO Manual Looks Authentic: Researchers Claim (By ...May 9, 2009 ... "General: MJ-12 takes the subject of UFOBs, Extraterrestrial Technology and Extraterrestrial Biological Entities very seriously and considers the ...
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you'll find herein the controversial "MJ 12" documents, and the regular departments that make the Journal the best in its field. In this issue. HELICOPTERS ...
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member of MJ12, and indeed proof that MJ12 really existed. The plain fact is, almost all ... MJ12 documents as anything but fiction—and failed fic- tion, at that.
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[Linda Brown]

A51..... you said...
?-TS- conference was held on the matter with all the big shots in attendance (including Dr. Teller who wants to know the flying disc connection). More on that plus the transcript of that meeting in 'The Green Fireballs' thread here in this section.

And you have my complete and undivided attention.

Do you have a date on this particular conference and a list of participants? I am assuming that Dr. laPaz was involved and if its the participant list that I think that it is..... is has a few interesting anomalies that are going to be all kinds of fun to talk about.   Linda

[A51Watcher]

well ok..don't say i never gave ya anything

Aren't you the 'lucky' one sky! 

Local library is online! Nice. Great find!


I did manage to find that service last year and have scavenged the pages. 


However in my state that still doesn't cover it all, as I have found. 3 smaller cities in the south have sightings in their papers alone not covered in Portland.

So digitizing that paper alone does not unearth all the clues to be found!