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Started by Amaterasu, May 17, 2012, 08:44:13 PM

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Quote from: Pimander on May 18, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
If the inverted pyramid is a manifestation/symbol the sacred female then the upright pyramid would be a manifestation of the sacred masculine.  In a balanced "whole" or complete functioning system you would surely need both pyramids to manifest in harmony and unite.  In uniting they constantly effect each other and cause motion/change.

The synthesis of the masculine and feminine would be the seemingly paradoxical dynamic of a universe with limitless energy available to balance/combat the endless tendency towards high entropy.  With a limitless energy source the interplay of masculine and feminine endlessly adds to the ever expanding moment called the present - the divine and eternal child.

To put it another way, you need entropy as much as its opposite number....

ETA:  I DO NOT mean the present in the conventional sense.  It is so hard sometimes to express these ideas using English.  If only I was a better poet. :D

well that was beautifuly written.
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Quote from: undo11 on May 18, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
well that was beautifuly written.
Thank you Beth.  You're too kind. :)

Amaterasu

Pim, I agree, and the point is that there will still be plenty of the male inherent in the whole, and bringing in the sacred feminine in this format, the feminine that has been absent from society for a very long time, will bring the balance so sorely missing.

Beth, until You offer specifics of HOW it will not work, I really think it's an exercise in futility to argue against "well it just won't work because it won't."  [shrug]  I have formulated this all for the last 50 years, drawing on a wide array of social and statistical sciences.  From economics, psychology, and behavior science, to statistics, chaos theory, emergence, fractals, synthesis and analysis...  My estimation is that it WILL work.  And I can tell You how.  It seems You cannot tell Me how it won't and I will accept that You just believe that it won't.

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

A51Watcher

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As I read the Z book thread, here are the words I kept hearing as the soundtrack -
 

:D







Amaterasu

Quote from: A51Watcher on May 19, 2012, 03:53:34 AM
As I read the Z book thread, here are the words I kept hearing as the soundtrack -
 

:D




I don't dare click a YT lest the Flash virus kicks in and I have to reboot.  When I figure out how to be rid of the dam' thing...  I'll take a peek.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Posted the Hot Dog stand piece...

This shows why removing the cost of Human and external energy leaves no cost to anyOne for anything.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

undo11

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Quote from: Amaterasu on May 19, 2012, 12:59:31 AM
Pim, I agree, and the point is that there will still be plenty of the male inherent in the whole, and bringing in the sacred feminine in this format, the feminine that has been absent from society for a very long time, will bring the balance so sorely missing.

Beth, until You offer specifics of HOW it will not work, I really think it's an exercise in futility to argue against "well it just won't work because it won't."  [shrug]  I have formulated this all for the last 50 years, drawing on a wide array of social and statistical sciences.  From economics, psychology, and behavior science, to statistics, chaos theory, emergence, fractals, synthesis and analysis...  My estimation is that it WILL work.  And I can tell You how.  It seems You cannot tell Me how it won't and I will accept that You just believe that it won't.

it sounds great on paper. in fact, it sounds fantastic on paper.   but if you are expecting it to solve the issues with human nature in social and financial settings, which is what causes the world to gravitate to "unfairness" in the first place, well, i'm  not sure how it can.  you seem to believe that if there was not money to compete over, people would stop competing and relax.  that ain't gonna happen either, not unless you force it, and that's where the greater evil takes root. 

you've done all kinds of interesting studies and have compiled a fine concept that would work in small communities of people who have agreed upon the premises necessary to sustain it, but, outside that, i don't see how it would feasible.   it sounds great though.  but even when money is not an object, people still vie for position and status and will even fight each other to the death for it in some cases.   heck, jealousy even causes some people to kill each other, and no money may be involved.   you're trying to fix the "gift of the feather", and it ain't fixable. it's a permanent fixture. people who try to fix it,  kill the patient in the process.

the same passion that drives an artist to paint, a musician to write music and an inventor to invent, also drives competition and survival of the fittest. how're you going to isolate that out?   

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Quote from: undo11 on May 19, 2012, 07:27:25 AM
it sounds great on paper. in fact, it sounds fantastic on paper.   but if you are expecting it to solve the issues with human nature in social and financial settings, which is what causes the world to gravitate to "unfairness" in the first place, well, i'm  not sure how it can.  you seem to believe that if there was not money to compete over, people would stop competing and relax.  that ain't gonna happen either, not unless you force it, and that's where the greater evil takes root. 

Can You describe a situation where You think this would result in unfairness...or where competition would be a negative thing.  Explain to Me where competing would be an issue.  I see plenty of competition, but it's all for reputation and not money.  I am unsure how You see it as a description of no competition.

Programmers will compete to program the best robots.  Researchers will compete to find the answers first or a better method of researching.  We will still hold spelling bees, sports events, and plenty of other competition events.  Chili cookoffs...  Um...  Etc.

Only the "payoff" will differ, and the motivation will be to produce the BEST, not the most PROFITABLE.

Quoteyou've done all kinds of interesting studies and have compiled a fine concept that would work in small communities of people who have agreed upon the premises necessary to sustain it, but, outside that, i don't see how it would feasible.   it sounds great though.  but even when money is not an object, people still vie for position and status and will even fight each other to the death for it in some cases.

Give Me a ferinstance.

Quoteheck, jealousy even causes some people to kill each other, and no money may be involved.

I did not say this solves interpersonal issues.  (In fact, I think I specifically state that those would be Our crimes - but when comparing percentage of crimes - money-motivated vs interpersonal - this leaves a statistically insignificant number of crimes.)

Quoteyou're trying to fix the "gift of the feather", and it ain't fixable. it's a permanent fixture. people who try to fix it,  kill the patient in the process.

Nope.  Not at all.  I AM trying to eliminate the soil in which the root of all evil grows.  I am trying to eliminate money as the foundation for choosing poor behavior.  And virtually ALL poor behavior is money motivated.

Quotethe same passion that drives an artist to paint, a musician to write music and an inventor to invent, also drives competition and survival of the fittest. how're you going to isolate that out?

No need to.  I encourage competition.  Through it, We will see incredible betterment, as the best comes forth with no concern for the cost.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."