Mars Anomaly - White Object With Small Black Sphere on Top

[rdunk]

The topic of this thread is "White Object With Small Black Sphere on Top".  And this item was specifically identified in the screenshot I posted. I did include a couple of ?'s to rocks in the photo, but they were not in the subject of this post.

I had already viewed the several sol days of photos of this area, and had already seen, that the sphere goes away, in the later photos, and the look of the rocks are drastically changed, for some reason. That will all be just one part of the future Tampering post, as I have several examples, including the one I recently posted in a reply re: the oval white object the crater sand dunes.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Sgt, thanks for your effort. However I see no "round generator" around that rock that would make a spherical shadow. The photos show the sphere pretty clearly. To me, it does seem to be on the top of the small white piece, rather that farther back and on the edge of the bigger rock.

Of course, you may be right....but as you will see in a future thread, someone went to significant effort, to really change how these rocks actually look.

I totally disagree that it shows a sphere at all! I've zoomed in pretty close and i don't see a sphere. Your whole arguement is based that there is a sphere, and there just isn't one. Imo.

[rdunk]

It is a little strange to think one has to zoom way in to see the sphere, when it is very clear to the plain eye in the pics!

Oh well, we can agree to disagree!

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Yep you see what you see.

[ArMaP]

It is a little strange to think one has to zoom way in to see the sphere, when it is very clear to the plain eye in the pics!

It's not strange at all, as the "sphere" is very small.

Look at the image below, if it was a sphere over the other rock, where is the sphere's shadow? It should have some shadow to the right and the bottom of the image, like all other rocks have.



PS: as you can see, I resized the image with no resampling, all the pixels were resized instead of creating new pixels to make for a better looking image. Obviously, I didn't use a JPEG version of the image, that would have been a big mistake. 

[rdunk]

ArMaP, an over blown image like that is pretty much useless. in posting anomalous objects, one wants to use the best photos available, and that is what I posted, and what I expect any interested party would want to see. You are doing a lot of work with this photo, to try make it appear that little anomaly just doesn't exist. Of course, in your overblown photo, nothing exists but ghostly images!  

The anomaly pic is what is, in its "natural state". It does show a little black spherical object on its top. I guess it could be a spherical shadow, which would be a strange thing. Or it could be a spherical glob of Martian mud, blown in from a recent rainstorm. (?) Or, maybe it is just a spherical pile of Martian bird poop!

Actually, I do have a Rover pic of a "feathered bird" lying on the Martian surface, that I will post one of these days.

Also, there is anther very small and insignificant anomalous object in the same general area of this OP, that I will add in another reply to this post shortly.

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, an over blown image like that is pretty much useless.

Not if the resizing resized the pixels, as in that case the image looks exactly like the original, only bigger.

in posting anomalous objects, one wants to use the best photos available, and that is what I posted, and what I expect any interested party would want to see.

The image you posted is far from the best, as it has too much compression.

The image below is one of the best I can find.
(click for full size)


As you can see it's not as blurry as the one you posted.

You are doing a lot of work with this photo, to try make it appear that little anomaly just doesn't exist.

No, I am not trying to make it appear as if what you call an anomaly doesn't exist, I am trying to show that it really doesn't exist, it's different.

Of course, in your overblown photo, nothing exists but ghostly images!  

Then look at the image I posted above, and you will see that it shows exactly the same thing as my resized image.

The anomaly pic is what is, in its "natural state".

No, the anomaly pic is a worthless, blurry version of a good image. As you said, using the best version possible is the best way of not being fooled by bad images.

It does show a little black spherical object on its top.

No, it's not really spherical or even circular, as you can see if you zoom in on the image.

I guess it could be a spherical shadow, which would be a strange thing.

It's not spherical, and it looks like a shadow. If it was a real object it would have its own shadows, which it doesn't have.

Or it could be a spherical glob of Martian mud, blown in from a recent rainstorm. (?) Or, maybe it is just a spherical pile of Martian bird poop!

It's not spherical.

Actually, I do have a Rover pic of a "feathered bird" lying on the Martian surface, that I will post one of these days.

I hope you have a good version of that pic and not one as bad as this one.

Also, there is anther very small and insignificant anomalous object in the same general area of this OP, that I will add in another reply to this post shortly.

Just confirm it's existence in the better image instead of relying on that fuzzy one.

[rdunk]

Not worthy of comment, because I accept little of what you say here! Thanks!

[ArMaP]

Not worthy of comment, because I accept little of what you say here! Thanks!

Well, then I guess you are losing an opportunity (no pun intended) of learning something.

I guess this thread has run its course, so I will wait for the next one.

[Amaterasu]

Y'know...  I am an anomaly lover.  But on this photo, I have to side with ArMaP.  Looking at all the imagery given on both sides here, I have say that is a shadow.  And not an unusual one, either.

There are other photos though...  Anomalous as all getout.

[rdunk]

Y'know...  I am an anomaly lover.  But on this photo, I have to side with ArMaP.  Looking at all the imagery given on both sides here, I have say that is a shadow.  And not an unusual one, either.

There are other photos though...  Anomalous as all getout.

Hey Amaterasu, that is surely just fine.  That is, as long as you understand, that is always "the side" that Armap is always on, always is the skeptic, and always taking the skeptic position. I really don't mean that to be disrespectful", as Armap openly admits that position, and it is always obvious in the replies.

So, I just take anything said from that position with a big grain of salt, and move on. As there are plenty of Mars anomalies to satisfy the notion of a civilization having been there, we anomaly posters will just continue  to post what the photos show, for all to see.

And as NASA has proven, the photos can be distorted to however someone wishes  to make them appear, if they choose to do that.

I do enjoy everyone's comments! But the only skepticism I have is......................I am very skeptical of  skeptics!!! 

[Amaterasu]

Hey Amaterasu, that is surely just fine.  That is, as long as you understand, that is always "the side" that Armap is always on, always is the skeptic, and always taking the skeptic position. I really don't mean that to be disrespectful", as Armap openly admits that position, and it is always obvious in the replies.

So, I just take anything said from that position with a big grain of salt, and move on. As there are plenty of Mars anomalies to satisfy the notion of a civilization having been there, we anomaly posters will just continue  to post what the photos show, for all to see.

And as NASA has proven, the photos can be distorted to however someone wishes  to make them appear, if they choose to do that.

I do enjoy everyone's comments! But the only skepticism I have is......................I am very skeptical of  skeptics!!! 

Oh, yes.  I have been involved with ArMaP in discussions regarding things that I was certain were anomalous and He was equally sure were not.  And have heard (read) Him state that He does not believe any anomalies exist as evidence of something not as it is being reported as.  I contemplate that stance when I have seen NASA photos with blatant editing - and I do mean I could do a far better job of hiding things.  But, ArMaP is cool anyway, and has His mind made up.  [smile]

[rdunk]

Oh, yes.  I have been involved with ArMaP in discussions regarding things that I was certain were anomalous and He was equally sure were not.  And have heard (read) Him state that He does not believe any anomalies exist as evidence of something not as it is being reported as.  I contemplate that stance when I have seen NASA photos with blatant editing - and I do mean I could do a far better job of hiding things.  But, ArMaP is cool anyway, and has His mind made up.  [smile]

I totally agree - Armap us "cool", and I am glad he is here with us! Maybe we can have an anomaly that will win him over one of these days. Although, some of my previous posts here are very very strong anomalies, they, so far, certainly have not "won him over"! 

[Amaterasu]

I totally agree - Armap us "cool", and I am glad he is here with us! Maybe we can have an anomaly that will win him over one of these days. Although, some of my previous posts here are very very strong anomalies, they, so far, certainly have not "won him over"! 

I surely hope so.  [smile]

[ArMaP]

That is, as long as you understand, that is always "the side" that Armap is always on, always is the skeptic, and always taking the skeptic position. I really don't mean that to be disrespectful", as Armap openly admits that position, and it is always obvious in the replies.

Sure I admit is, as it's the truth, and, from my point of view, the only honest position one can have, as it just means that I have doubts about anything. As I have those doubts I cannot really say "that's a shadow", I can only say "it looks like a shadow to me".

So, I just take anything said from that position with a big grain of salt, and move on.

If you are interested in the truth you shouldn't take a sceptical position with a big grain of salt unless you do that to all positions, including yours, as you risk ignoring all other positions and only accept yours, that may be wrong.

As there are plenty of Mars anomalies to satisfy the notion of a civilization having been there, we anomaly posters will just continue  to post what the photos show, for all to see.

And I, as a fan of Mars photos and as someone interested in knowing as much as possible about Mars (in this case), I thank everybody for the photos posted, as I don't have the time to look at all the photos.

And as NASA has proven, the photos can be distorted to however someone wishes  to make them appear, if they choose to do that.

Unfortunately, that applies to everyone. Once I went looking through a list of manipulated images from the Moon, and all except two of the manipulated versions were on private sites, with NASA showing only two manipulated photos in a site directed more to the general public than to the scientific public, on those I have never seen a sign of manipulation.

I do enjoy everyone's comments! But the only skepticism I have is......................I am very skeptical of  skeptics!!! 

So am I.