The music of Coal Mining

[Iamschist]

It is a testament to the human spirit, that even under the most wretched of conditons, we will lift our voices in song

"In 1701, coal was found by Huguenot settlers on the James River in what is now Richmond, Virginia. By 1736, several "coal mines" were shown on a map of the upper Potomac River near what is now the border of Maryland and West Virginia. In 1748, the first commercial coal production began from mines around Richmond, Virginia."

http://www.netl.doe.gov/keyissues/historyofcoaluse.html

This is an excellent resource for anyone interested in coal mining history

We began to mine underground, in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky. It was a miserable, dangerous way to make a living.  The mining itself is hazardous, and the rewards few. With the mines owning all of the businesses in town and all of the housing, it was capitalist slavery at it's finest.  Taking advantage of the poorest and least educated, the mine owners ground out the fuel for the industrial revolution.  The cost being paid by the environment and the workers themselves.

A miner could expect extreme hard labor and likely an early grave from death in the mine due to unsafe conditions or because of the physical costs of back breaking work.

"The political power of coal and its masters is both a blessing and a curse. Both England (the first nation to utilize coal as its primary energy source) and the United States rose to world dominance on the back of a coal-powered economy. King Coal, as it has been known at times in its history, was the provider of blessed industrial might to the many, and industrial woe to those who had to remove it from the ground for a living. However, contemporary environmental concerns have lent King Coal a new mantle: chief polluter and environmental bogeyman."

http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/2004/4/04.04.01.x.html

This site gives an over view of coal and emphasizes the environment.

"The feudal system (coal companies being the "Barons of the Manor" and coal miners being the serfs) made it possible for the miner to live in housing consisting of rough lumber with no indoor plumbing and to do his necessary shopping at the company store where he might purchase on credit. He was paid in a "play money" called "scrip" which was exchangeable only at the company store. He was required to furnish his own tools and blasting powder, which he purchased at the company store.

If he were married, the needs of a growing family usually outstripped his ability to provide for them on the wages he earned, thus most of them were perpetually in debt to the company store."

http://pages.swcp.com/~dhickman/wvcmf/wvcmf.html

I am not going to post videos, rather I will post links to save space and copyright issues.  The music of the mines addressed all of the issues the miners and their families faced.


Environmental.    "Black Water" - Jim Ringer .  It is #16 on this page. It is not the Doobie Brother's song, which has the same title.  The player is there in the center, it should be set to play this song.
http://www.musicofcoal.com/music.htm

The mines themselves.     "Dark As A Dugeon" - Merle Travis. 
http://www.last.fm/music/Merle+Travis/_/Dark+as+a+dungeon

I used this link because some on here say they cannot get youtube.  There is a video, and also you can just listen on other links provided.

The system of company towns.   "16 tons" - George Davis is generally credited with writing this song.
http://prostopleer.com/tracks/51285889qXo

Hazards of Explosions.     "Explosion At Derby Mine" - Charlie Maggard  Again on the same site as the first.  Just scroll down, the player is alphabetical, then click on the title to play the song.
http://www.musicofcoal.com/music.htm

I went to the trouble, and I am asking you all to go to the trouble, to hear these songs by the writer and in the original.  Thank you for you patience.

The exploitation of humans and the environment for the purpose of progress as a society and wealth for a few is our past and still our present.  Unless we experience the cost of such choices, we may continue to repeat them

[Amaterasu]

Thank You for all the effort.  I will, indeed be checking these out.

I may point out (again, for many) that money is just an accounting of meaningful energy expended in an energy-scarce society.  If We had access to abundant free energy and robots to do all the necessary work no One WANTS to do, Humanity would be freed from wage/debt slavery, and the abundance of the planet would flow to ALL of Us, eliminating poverty, hunger, oppression, privilege, and war (to name a few of the problems that would be solved).

For more, see:  http://bit.ly/I5TriH

[zorgon]

Coal to replace Nuclear Plants

If hu-mons were smart...

They would increase coal use to boil water for electricity instead of nuclear fuel. It is a simple solution to put a SCRUBBER on the chimney to remove the harmful sulfur etc. In fact it pays for itself as the pure sulfur has a market

This HAS been done in Sudbury Canada where the environment is now once again green where before there was nothing growing within 50 miles of the smelters

As I sadi IF Hu-mons were smart

Unfortunately for us only a handful are smart..

In fact most are so dumb they cannot even put out the coal fires that are burning underground, eating up valuable resources and that smoke pouring unchecked into the environment

[Amaterasu]

Now, z.  You know it's not about smarts.  It's about MONEY!  And resistance by Those MAKING money in nuclear power.  And plans to kill Us all eventually, no doubt. 

[zorgon]

Centralia, Pa., coal fire is one of hundreds that burn in the U.S.

The underground coal fire that has slowly consumed Centralia, Pa., isn't unusual. Many such fires burn around the world.
By Mark Clayton, Staff writer / February 5, 2010


Retired Centralia Postmaster Tom Dempsey was photographed in mid-January with in an empty Centralia, Pa., as steam rises from the ground behind him. The steam is caused by a fire that burns underground. After years of delay, state officials are trying to finish their demolition work in Centralia. Carolyn Kaster/AP

The fire burning deep below Centralia, Pa., is just one of numerous coal fires burning in at least 20 states today, with thousands more worldwide. They gobble up resources, spew dangerous emissions, and scar the land. Yet little is known about their impact on climate change or human health due to carbon dioxide and mercury emissions, say experts.

Approximately 200 underground coal fires burn in about 20 states, according to Glenn Stracher, a researcher at East Georgia College in Swainsboro, Ga., A separate tally shows 112 fire sites in 21 states, according to Office of Surface Mining data analyzed by Dr. Stracher and fellow researcher Ann Kim.

Centralia, Pa., coal fire is one of hundreds that burn in the U.S.

Pollution from Underground Coal Fires Tallied

Thousands of underground coal fires are burning out of control, oozing greenhouse gases through cracks in the ground.By Michael Reilly Wed Nov 4, 2009

Right now, thousands of coal fires are burning out of control around the world. The fires are heaving untold amounts of mercury, the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide (CO2) and other pollutants into the air.

The fires are notoriously hard to monitor; they tend to start at the surface but quickly scurry underground, only to ooze gases through soil and cracks in the ground. But an ambitious new study is now taking the first steps toward tallying their contribution to air pollution around the world.

Pollution from Underground Coal Fires Tallied




Coal fires cause pollution and ground subsidence at the world's largest coal-fire complex near Jharia, India. Credit: Anupma Prakesh


Only a few homes remain in Centralia, Pa., where an underground coal fire has been burning since 1962.Credit: Janet L. Stracher

[zorgon]

Now, z.  You know it's not about smarts.  It's about MONEY!  And resistance by Those MAKING money in nuclear power.  And plans to kill Us all eventually, no doubt.

So that means no one is interested in other stories than money? Of course its about money but if they planned to kill us all  then they wouldn'y have us as salves to make money, now would they? Population is ever increasing, despite all the wars, Fukushima's earthquakes and tsunamis. I don't see anyone getting wiped out 

[Iamschist]

Coal to replace Nuclear Plants

They would increase coal use to boil water for electricity instead of nuclear fuel. It is a simple solution to put a SCRUBBER on the chimney to remove the harmful sulfur etc. In fact it pays for itself as the pure sulfur has a market

I dispise nuclear power and yes coal can be cleaned up, conditions of the mines have improved, but that could use some work as well.
Natural gas is a viable option, but not if it is obtained by fracking. imho

[Amaterasu]

So that means no one is interested in other stories than money? Of course its about money but if they planned to kill us all  then they wouldn'y have us as salves to make money, now would they? Population is ever increasing, despite all the wars, Fukushima's earthquakes and tsunamis. I don't see anyone getting wiped out 

Never said stories having nothing to do with money are of no interest.  Just pointing out that it's not about how stupid We are.  And as for the killing...  They are slowly making this planet uninhabitable with nuclear radiation, chemtrails, GMO, tainted water supplies, and so on.  They don't need so many slaves, now that robotics is coming into its own.  And eventually, They will try to eliminate the "useless eaters."

Just sayin'.

[zorgon]

FREE ENERGY

For those of you smart people out there that have installed a WOOD BURNING STOVE to help reduce heating bills...

I have a source of free energy other than the wood

In Price Utah there are coal seams to small for the mines to mine them and they are exposed at the side of the road. In fact as the coal weathers out of the cliffs there are piles of FREE COAL lying all over the place.

I have made several trips there for specimens as there are fantastic fossil plants in that coal as some of it did not quite convert all the bog to coal

This coal bed is from Prehistory Peat Bogs and thus has lots of plants clearly visible

You can toss a few pieces into your wood stove (not TOO much or it will get jut enough to melt the stove)

Its also great for my period sword making forge


On the Road to Price, Utah No. 3 - Blackhawk Coal Seam at Castle Gate, Utah




Coal outcrop Alaska (DNR)

[zorgon]

Just pointing out that it's not about how stupid We are.

Oh but it IS  because the smart ones learn that you can make MORE money by using environmentally friendly methods to mine and create energy

Piles of sulfur reclaimed from scrubbers...

There are some ways in which the sulphur can be used: fertilizer, batteries, detergents, bleach, matches, gunpowder fireworks, laxatives, road paving asphalt, industrial acid, bath soap and shampoo. The cost for sulphur is about $50-$70 per tonne.

Alberta Oil Sand alone produces so much they hardly know what to do with it    so that saves mining it and this stuff is already pure. Some are actually putting it in to old mines to store for the future

So yes SMART Hu-mons CAN make a difference while still making money

[Amaterasu]

But if They're invested in nuclear...  Also, as the scrubbers and such add more and more sulfur, the price will plummet and little money can be made.  Just sayin'.

[zorgon]

Coal Miner's Hands

[zorgon]

But if They're invested in nuclear...  Also, as the scrubbers and such add more and more sulfur, the price will plummet and little money can be made.  Just sayin'.

Interim solutions are BETTER THAN NOTHING

Here it is in SONG from those Coal Miners...  Very appropriate for this threadLOL   

Taylor Made "West Virginia Underground"

Taylor Made's single "West Virginia Underground"
Taylor Made performed at the free concert and Labor Day rally in Logan County to support American jobs.
Called the "Friends of America" rally, guests included nationally-syndicated radio host and Fox television host Sean Hannity and country star Hank Williams Jr., John Rich, Ted Nugent will emceed the event.

For those without youtube... here are the lyrics

Lyrics
Chorus
I don't remember askin' you to pat my back,
but damn, don't you ride it so hard.
You talk about new ways and better plans,
but you ain't showed me nothin' so far.

Until you got a solution, keep your damn mouth shut,
you're just another problem we found.
We put our heart and soul into diggin' coal,
we're the West Virginia Underground.

I work my shift at the bottom of a hole,
makin' sure that your lights come on.
And your interview, ain't by candlelight,
while you're bitchin' what I'm doins wrong

This ain't Hollywood, this is West by God,
its' Virginia and Kentucky coalfields.
It's a way of life that beats the kids of life,
and that's the only thing that matters down here.

Chorus
I don't remember askin' you to pat my back,
but damn, don't you ride it so hard.
You talk about new ways and better plans,
but you ain't showed me nothin' so far.

Until you got a solution, keep your damn mouth shut,
you're just another problem we found.
We put our heart and soul into diggin' coal,
we're the West Virginia Underground.

Whether up from the bottom, or down from the top,
that coal's comin' out of the ground.
And I'd rather restructure a mountain top,
than have another Chernobyl in my town.

This is coal minin' country, that's what we do,
And we don't like you nosin' around.
For years we've had your kind tryin' to undermine
the West Virginia Underground.

Chorus
I don't remember askin' you to pat my back,
but damn, don't you ride it so hard.
You talk about new ways and better plans,
but you ain't showed me nothin' so far.

Until you got a solution, keep your damn mouth shut,
you're just another problem we found.
We put our heart and soul into diggin' coal,
we're the West Virginia Underground.

Repeat Chorus

Until you're payin' my bills, get your ass off my hills,
we're the West Virginia Underground.

[Amaterasu]

Fair enough, z.  Still, the tech is there, hidden and suppressed, to make coal, gas, oil, and even solar, wind and other "green" energy unnecessary while eliminating the NEED for money.

Rather out it than to find more stop-gap measures.

[Iamschist]

Zorgon

There are some ways in which the sulphur can be used: fertilizer, batteries, detergents, bleach, matches, gunpowder fireworks, laxatives, road paving asphalt, industrial acid, bath soap and shampoo. The cost for sulphur is about $50-$70 per tonne.

You forgot to mention antibiotics.  Sulphur, if you are not allergic, is an excellent topical and internal antimicrobial.