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Aether Displacement

Started by mpc755, June 23, 2012, 08:10:22 AM

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mpc755

#90
Quote from: hobbit on June 30, 2012, 07:34:28 AM
If a thread was titled,
Only those who agree with this theory are allowed to reply?????
You would then have a cult.

It's how religions operate, they only allow those who agree, and have the same belief.

The beauty of a site such as pegasus is the variety of different comprehensions that are seeking correct answers together.

You present Your comprehension as of mass displacing the aether, and that the aether is pushing back against the mass.

First of all, in aether displacement, the aether has mass. If you read the very first three words of my original post you would know this. This thread starts with, "Aether has mass". So for you to say "aether is pushing back against the mass" shows you have not taken the time to understand what aether displacement is about.

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

Aether and matter have mass.

As far as we know there is no space, nor any part of three dimensional space, devoid of mass.

QuoteWith respect, that is the illusion , and an apparent consequence.

I understand that is you opinion. However, aether displaced by matter is what AETHER DISPLACEMENT is all about.

QuoteI am not disagreeing with the statement that mass arises from a TRANSMUTATION from one state to another which a seemingly none existant aether facilitates.
What I am trying to suggest is that very transmutation process is similer to steam transmuting to water, in that on this planet, that is in a near constant state and the net result is the formation of mass...a growing alive planet...and that a further consequence is a net inrush we call gravity.
Excellent thread OP.
hobbit

And I am stating that there is no inrush we call gravity.

Mass is that which physically occupies three dimensional space.

Aether has mass.

Aether is displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter IS gravity.

Littleenki

Mpc, you just agreed with hobbit.
Le
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Mikado

What? Well blow me blowdown pipes cause I don't see it!

zorgon

If you have a glass of water, and put a rock in it, the water is displaced by the rock

If either is indeed a 'substance' then it only follows logically that if a rock (matter) is placed in the aether, the aether would be displaced

Seems simple enough to me but heck what do I know?

::)




Mikado

That is the problem with metaphor's, they are never quite right.

The difference is that the rock(matter) is not the result of the water but matter is the result of the aether.

Mikado

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on July 01, 2012, 01:11:38 AM
Seems simple enough to me but heck what do I know?

::)
It is that simple. ;)

mpc755

Quote from: Littleenki on July 01, 2012, 12:14:10 AM
Mpc, you just agreed with hobbit.
Le

Quote from: hobbit on June 30, 2012, 07:34:28 AMWith respect, that is the illusion

Aether displacement is not an illusion. Aether displacement is what occurs physically in nature.

Aether is physically displaced by matter.

mpc755

#97
Quote from: zorgon on July 01, 2012, 01:11:38 AM
If you have a glass of water, and put a rock in it, the water is displaced by the rock

If either is indeed a 'substance' then it only follows logically that if a rock (matter) is placed in the aether, the aether would be displaced

The better analogy is placing an ice cube in a glass of water. The ice cube displaces the water.

The ice cube can be considered to be 'codensations' of water. The ice cube 'evaporates' into water.

QuoteSeems simple enough to me but heck what do I know?

::)

You correctly understand what occurs physically in nature better than mainstream physics.

Littleenki



QuoteAether and matter are different states of the same material.

Ah, so aether and matter are the same.  :)


QuoteAether is displaced by matter.

Huh? Something is displaced by itself?? ???

QuoteDisplaced aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Oh, so aether isnt matter??...biggger HUH? ??? ???

QuoteDisplaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter IS gravity.

Ok, aether is matter, but it is able push back against itself? ??? ??? ???

Triple Huh???

Le
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mpc755

#99
Quote from: Littleenki on July 01, 2012, 02:40:11 PM

Ah, so aether and matter are the same.  :)

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

QuoteHuh? Something is displaced by itself?? ???

Ice consists of the same material as does liquid water. When you place an ice cube into a drink of water the ice cube displaces the water. The ice cube exists in and displaces the water.

Particles of matter are condensations of aether. Particles of matter exist in and displace the aether.

QuoteOh, so aether isnt matter??...biggger HUH? ??? ???

Aether is matter in its 'evaporated' state; analogous to water is ice in its melted state.

QuoteOk, aether is matter, but it is able push back against itself? ??? ??? ???

When you place an ice cube into a drink of water the water pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward the ice cube.

Particles of matter exist in and displace the aether. The aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward the particles of matter.

When you get to something as large as the Earth, the aether displaced by the particles of matter the Earth consists of pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the Earth is gravity.

Linda Brown

Gravity is a PUSH, not a PULL

T. Townsend Brown

1923

Mikado

Reading this, I am reminded of the Wright Brothers.

mpc755

#102
Quote from: Linda Brown on July 01, 2012, 02:53:09 PM
Gravity is a PUSH, not a PULL

T. Townsend Brown

1923

I think Le Sage is the best known push theory of gravity. However, I think it is incorrect to think of there as being particles associated with the aether.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation

It is the aether itself which is displaced by matter which pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter which is gravity.

The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other out to some degree. You can think of this aether as being more 'at rest' than the aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon.

The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is able to exert more pressure on the solid matter Earth than it can the liquid oceans. This causes the solid matter Earth to be pushed closer to the Moon than the ocean water opposite the Moon. This causes the ocean to 'rise' opposite the Moon. The aether displaced between the Earth and Moon is able to exert less pressure on the ocean water between the Earth and the Moon than it can the solid matter Earth. This causes the ocean to 'rise' between the Earth and Moon.

Littleenki

So, aether and matter are the same. :)

An ice cube in a glass of water is like the surface of the water meeting the atmosphere.

Still all the same. Different densities of the same thing.

Different molecules, and isotopes of the same element at it's base, (hydrogen?), and thats where Dr Brown saw the light.

And then Im reminded of ORME. Or transmutation, which takes the aether and makes everything in existence from it.

Are we flying yet, Wilbur? :)

Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

mpc755

#104
Quote from: Littleenki on July 01, 2012, 03:12:36 PM
So, aether and matter are the same. :)

It is not accurate to same aether and matter are the same. Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

Ice is not the same as liquid water.