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Started by mpc755, June 23, 2012, 08:10:22 AM

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mpc755

Quote from: Mikado on July 04, 2012, 04:01:47 PM
I know that what you are saying. However, maybe the person wants to see if YOU know the answer.

And if you were to read a bit better, I DID NOT ask you about the units.

Not too terribly observant, are you?

As to repeating, well, others are observant.

If someone felt endeavorous, they could go through your 24 page post and probably reduce it by 90%. It is so very repetitious.

I suppose in your world there is no room for clarification of your statements.

Mikado

It is so repetitious because posters like yourself can't even remember what they just posted.

Quote from: Mikado on July 04, 2012, 03:51:54 PMWhy can't you just answer his question? What are the units of Force? Simple enough really unless of course all you wish to do is repeat yourself.

"What are the units of Force?" IS asking about the units.

The units which exist in GENERAL RELATIVITY.

The theory which I figured out the state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the aether.

Mikado

Quote from: mpc755 on July 04, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
It is so repetitious because posters like yourself can't even remember what they just posted.

"What are the units of Force?" IS asking about the units.

The units which exist in GENERAL RELATIVITY.

The theory which I figured out the state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the aether.



Here we go again.

Perhaps the poster is asking for you to state the units to showcase to the readers that you know what you are talking about. What you have been doing is to use others works as reference and the foundation of what you are saying.

Perhaps that is all your capabilities are. The compilation of others work to fit in with your gifted insight. Perhaps you lack the ability to go to the next step and that would be the application of the theory, ever hear of applied science?

Perhaps you have spent your load and you powder bag is empty.

It is a shame really for you have a very good theory that fits with Dr Brown's work, it would explain the "departure from Coulomb's". However, when you cease being the center of your universe, I am sure others will enjoy "discussing" it and not being "told" it. That characteristic probably has given you great opportunities elsewhere but it won't here with me.

That is how I see this and you can have the last dig (post), I will not give you anymore of my time.


Best to you and yours,

Mikado

mpc755

Quote from: Mikado on July 04, 2012, 04:22:51 PM


Here we go again.

Perhaps the poster is asking for you to state the units to showcase to the readers that you know what you are talking about. What you have been doing is to use others works as reference and the foundation of what you are saying.

Perhaps that is all your capabilities are. The compilation of others work to fit in with your gifted insight. Perhaps you lack the ability to go to the next step and that would be the application of the theory, ever hear of applied science?

Perhaps you have spent your load and you powder bag is empty.

It is a shame really for you have a very good theory that fits with Dr Brown's work, it would explain the "departure from Coulomb's". However, when you cease being the center of your universe, I am sure others will enjoy "discussing" it and not being "told" it. That characteristic probably has given you great opportunities elsewhere but it won't here with me.

That is how I see this and you can have the last dig (post), I will not give you anymore of my time.


Best to you and yours,

Mikado

What I have done is figured out what Einstein referred to as the state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places as described in general relativity.

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the aether.

What Einstein referred to as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as displaced aether.

What I have done is figured out the pseudo-force of curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the force of the displaced aether.

Now, it would seem to me that you should ask yourself why you insist on not understanding this.

Pimander

Quote from: mpc755 on July 04, 2012, 03:51:02 PM
Seriously? We are on the 23rd page of this topic and you are just now getting around to bringing up friction?
I know exactly what a superfluid is. ::)   You either have a very serious communication problem or you are trolling.  Get a grip and stop being rude.  I am trying to put a different angle on this.  If you're right you protest too much methinks. :P


Quote from: mpc755 on July 04, 2012, 03:51:02 PM
Objects interaction with superfluids and supersolids are by definition frictionless. That does not mean there is no interaction. 
An interaction that involves "pushing back" would also effect a body in motion....  If the ether has structure and position and "pushes back" you would have friction if the object moves.

All you are doing is saying is SOMETHING is pushing back therefore it is ether.  I could just say something is pulling in and therefore it must be the matter..... It doesn't mean anything either way...... you still don't know why it happens - that is why is is still a mystery specifically WHY the Universe is the way it is.

Why can't some of you grasp that essential little Salmon of Knowledge.  That Great Mystery?

Littleenki

Be the wise bear..wait for that salmon..wait for it!
Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

mpc755

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Quote from: Pimander on July 04, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
I know exactly what a superfluid is. ::)

No, you don't.

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You either have a very serious communication problem or you are trolling.  Get a grip and stop being rude.  I am trying to put a different angle on this.  If you're right you protest too much methinks. :P

An interaction that involves "pushing back" would also effect a body in motion....  If the ether has structure and position and "pushes back" you would have friction if the object moves.

BY DEFINITION an objects interaction with a superfluid or a supersolid is FRICTIONLESS.

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All you are doing is saying is SOMETHING is pushing back therefore it is ether.  I could just say something is pulling in and therefore it must be the matter..... It doesn't mean anything either way......

You have one of two choices. You insist the bowling ball in the following analogy slows down because of friction which means you do not understand what a superfluid or a supersolid is or you understand the bowling ball displaces the superfluid, there is no friction in the interaction of the bowling ball and the superfluid and supersolid, and the bowling ball rolls forever.

You are in a bowling alley. The lane is made of a supersolid dense enough to support the bowling ball. The building is filled with a superfluid. You bowl the bowling ball. The bowling ball displaces the superfluid as it rolls along on top of the supersolid. The bowling ball never stops.

The energy the bowling ball requires to displace the superfluid is returned to the bowling ball as the superfluid 'displaces back'.

Quoteyou still don't know why it happens - that is why is is still a mystery specifically WHY the Universe is the way it is.[/size]

What occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment may still be a mystery to you. It isn't to me.

Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined trajectory which takes it through one slit while the associated aether wave passes through both.

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

 MPC you say 'Aether has mass'

Then you say 'Aether condenses into mass'
Then you say 'Aether pushes against mass'

It can't be all three.....
I'm outta here 8)

mpc755

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 04, 2012, 08:19:39 PM
MPC you say 'Aether has mass'

Then you say 'Aether condenses into mass'
Then you say 'Aether pushes against mass'

It can't be all three.....
I'm outta here 8)

I never said any such thing.

I have ALWAYS said, 'Aether condenses into matter'.

I have ALWAYS said, 'Aether pushes against matter'.

Littleenki

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 04, 2012, 08:19:39 PM
MPC you say 'Aether has mass'

Then you say 'Aether condenses into mass'
Then you say 'Aether pushes against mass'

It can't be all three.....
I'm outta here 8)
Come on over Luke, Ive got boxes of federals left! Fireworks, woohoo!
See ya in the special area...... 8)

Cheers, Le
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

mpc755

Quote from: Littleenki on July 04, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
Come on over Luke, Ive got boxes of federals left! Fireworks, woohoo!
See ya in the special area...... 8)

Cheers, Le

Since the very beginning of this thread I have ALWAYS said aether has mass and MATTER is condensations of aether.

I know this is pointless since it appears no one on this tread besides myself is able to actual read and understand what is posted.

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

Aether and matter have mass.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html

"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations of the electromagnetic field"

The electromagnetic field is a state of aether. MATTER is condensations of aether.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish. However, the MATTER which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished; it still exists, as aether. MATTER evaporates into aether. As MATTER evaporates into aether it expands into neighboring places; which is energy. Mass is conserved.

When a nuclear bomb explodes MATTER evaporates into aether. The evaporation is energy. Mass is conserved.

Tromprenard

Quote from: mpc755 on July 04, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
Since the very beginning of this thread I have ALWAYS said aether has mass and MATTER is condensations of aether.(snip)  Mass is conserved.

OK..... I Understand..  What makes you think I had not read the whole thread......Did you bother pasting the math of your definitions?.... No!

And so I repeat the question...........Now What is the Unit of Mass? You are saying the word MASS...Are you not?.... What is the unit of mass?
As for "butting-in with questions" Everything I say here is tied directly to my face and my image... I don't use Pseudo-anonymous code names, nor do I use or believe in your word "Pseudo-force"unless you can explain the first order logic and your complete theory to explain the word "Force".
I will question and poke holes in everything you say so that you can correctly identify your dimensional fundamentals
Do you understand EPR Paradox and Einstein's last work before he died?.

If you think you have something NEW then Show us your face and be proud of your work... don't argue AROUND the point... get to it.... :P

Just a suggestion by the trickfox.
I think I'm beginning to like MPC755...he thinks alot about the problem so it's a sure thing he is an asset to this forum.

Raymond
Dimensionless denumerable assemblage theory rules all knowledge bases. Electromagnetism is only the beginning. There will always be "spooky action at a distance" (as Einstein described it). Perhaps, - In our case "spooky" just means "Reimannian".

mpc755

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Quote from: Tromprenard on July 04, 2012, 10:52:13 PM
OK..... I Understand..  What makes you think I had not read the whole thread.

General relativity is an aether theory.

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

Einstein defined the interaction of aether and matter as follows.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

Einstein stated he was '"disregarding the causes which condition" the state of the aether because he was unable to figure out what conditions the state of the aether.

That's what I figured out. I figured out what causes the condition of the state of the aether.

The cause which conditions the state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is its displacement by matter.

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.....Did you bother pasting the math of your definitions?.... No!

The math of general relativity still applies.

It is the role aether plays in general relativity which I figured out.

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And so I repeat the question...........Now What is the Unit of Mass? You are saying the word MASS...Are you not?.... What is the unit of mass?

And so I repeat my answer.........it's whatever the unit of mass is in general relativity when referring to particles of matter.

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As for "butting-in with questions" Everything I say here is tied directly to my face and my image... I don't use Pseudo-anonymous code names, nor do I use or believe in your word "Pseudo-force"unless you can explain the first order logic and your complete theory to explain the word "Force".

Gravity is a "pseudo-force" in general relativity because gravity is defined as the curvature of spacetime. Defining gravity as the curvature of spacetime is a geometrical definition of gravity. Defining gravity as caused by curved spacetime does not represent what is occurring physically in nature to cause gravity.

Curved spacetime is displaced aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter IS gravity.

I am defining gravity as an actual force.

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I will question and poke holes in everything you say so that you can correctly identify your dimensional fundamentals

Great, ask all the questions you want. However, we are not going to make any progress until you realize what I have done is figured out what causes the condition of the state of the aether of general relativity. We are not going to make any progress until you realize I have figured out the role aether plays in general relativity.

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Do you understand EPR Paradox and Einstein's last work before he died?.

Einstein believed in hidden-variables. There are no such things as hidden-variables. When a downconverted photon pair are created they are created with exact opposite polarizations. Downconverted photon pairs are always detected with opposite spins because they are propagating with exact opposite angular momentums.

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If you think you have something NEW then Show us your face and be proud of your work... don't argue AROUND the point... get to it.... :P

The point is what I have figured out is the role aether plays in general relativity.

It is the same role the aether plays in de Broglie's wave mechanics/pilot-wave theory.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave.

They are both aether displacement waves.

Tromprenard

QuoteThe point is what I have figured out is the role aether plays in general relativity.


Ok, well I'm looking forward to your published and peer reviewed journal of this monumental feat.... Hundreds of Laboratories have spend BILLIONS of dollars trying to do what you claimed to have accomplish. You are a brilliant star if you are correct, and I hope some day someone won't say ,....so who was that mpc-guy anyhow? ???

Raymond
Dimensionless denumerable assemblage theory rules all knowledge bases. Electromagnetism is only the beginning. There will always be "spooky action at a distance" (as Einstein described it). Perhaps, - In our case "spooky" just means "Reimannian".

hobbit

Whisper words of wisdom...Let it be.


mpc755

Quote from: hobbit on July 05, 2012, 08:48:18 AM
Whisper words of wisdom...Let it be.


"There will be an answer..."

There is an answer.

Aether is physically displaced by matter.